Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[Guest]

Spain loves Goofballs!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/ewan-mackenna-murky-questions-surround-spanish-footballs-golden-era-and-people-might-not-like-the-answers-36943284.html

[mcnugget]

two teenage boys arrested.

Surprised there is so little talk about it, probably overshadowed by that other psychopath from Bray. It is horrific.

[DeadParrot]

You have to ask how the fuck that letter got past a first year intern.

Earlier that day...

BREAKING: Senior North Korean foreign ministry official Choe Son Hui: "If the U.S. continues with their evil acts, I will ask for the summit to be reconsidered." "We are not begging for talks... whether the summit meeting will take place depends on the U.S.' behavior," she says

Effectivly...UH UH I broke up with you! And mine are bigger

[DeadParrot]

two teenage boys arrested.

that was the fear

[Guest]

Surprised there is so little talk about it, probably overshadowed by that other psychopath from Bray. It is horrific.

Think people don’t walk to talk about it because it’s so grim. A child beaten to death alone and whatever else horrible happened to her. Everything and anything is available to see on the internet hardcore abusive porn is normalized. I find voting is a private thing and I’d not tell anyone how I’ll vote.

[Zod]

Zoe look alike spotted outside Connolly station giving out stickers.One

That was me.

[DeadParrot]

Zoe look alike spotted outside Connolly station giving out stickers.One

4 muppets on the chapelizod bypass this morning with huge No posters and banners.
Didn't look like they could hold on to them with the wind.

[Zod]

4 muppets on the chapelizod bypass this morning with huge No posters and banners.
Didn't look like they could hold on to them with the wind.

some lad spray painted "please mammy don't kill me" on Fairview bridge. A load of No posters put up overnight directly outside polling stations.

[mocata]

Friends of mine running a charity gig in Whelans 2moro. Line-up pretty solid,was a legendary night last year.

http://www.whelanslive.com/#53190

[DeadParrot]

Whats the line here though.
Isn't campaigning (including posters, stickers etc) prohibited today?

[DeadParrot]

Whats the line here though.
Isn't campaigning (including posters, stickers etc) prohibited today?

[Zod]

Whats the line here though.
Isn't campaigning (including posters, stickers etc) prohibited today?

nope, only canvassing or postering within 50 metres of a polling station.

[ComradeCollie]

Whats the line here though.
Isn't campaigning (including posters, stickers etc) prohibited today?

Think it's allowed as long as it's 100m away from a polling station.

[Zod]

nope, only canvassing or postering within 50 metres of a polling station.

I had one big gammon oul lad shouting at me that it was illegal, so I directed him to the two guards 40 feet away if he had a complaint to make.

[V for Vendetta]

6 years since I last logged onto boards apparently. And apparently they’ll fully delete my account in a month if I don’t login before then. GDPR has its benefits.

[ComradeCollie]

nope, only canvassing or postering within 50 metres of a polling station.

50 meters has been mentioned many times. Pretty sure its 100 though http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...nacted/en/html

[RichieM]

Excellent thinking hooch, very smart. Why not bring the death penalty back while you're at it.

Its abortion up to the 300th trimester.

[ComradeCollie]

[SatNav]

When do we get the results of the poll?

[Kayroo]

When do we get the results of the poll?

Tomorrow. Count starts in the morning.

Exit polls (pretty volatile but a decent basic guide) will be out on the Late Late tonight.

[eamonhonda]

[LuckyLloyd]

I'm actually feeling really emotional today. Now that the day is here it feels so fucking massive. I've become increasingly angry over the course of the campaign if I'm honest, the same controlling forces in the background of the state my entire life have thrown everything at this, including paying for the latest type of social media approaches, etc. The lack of fucking shame on them. If we can just get a Yes today, we can largely move on as a modern society. This is about rejecting a terrible legacy since the inception of this state once and for all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iQGczIx6Sg

[Strewelpeter]

Went to vote at 7:30 AM and there was a bigger crowd in the room than I'd ever seen there before.
One woman and her barely 18 year old son were being turned away, he had checked the register online was on it but wasn't on it there. Then there were 4 more people who had polling cards , there name was on the register and were not being allowed vote because the number on their card didn't match the number on the register. Then there was another young woman who had her polling card but wasn't on their list
One of the people with a mismatching number was a woman who was not able to return later. I pointed out to the supervisors that there was no requirement for the numbers to match and they didn't react very positively to that. So I went to get a ballot, told them I would not show them my polling card for fear they would incorrectly deny me my vote. We agreed that they both know me personally, know where I live and I was willing to show them ID. I explained that they did not have the correct list and should call the returning officer to confirm the validity of the people who were not on their lists. They relented and gave me and people with mismatched numbers our ballots, the (99% no voting) woman with the 18 year old left and they were checking the central register for the woman with the polling card.

Messy but did look like a very healthy turnout.

[Denny Crane]

Tomorrow. Count starts in the morning.

Exit polls (pretty volatile but a decent basic guide) will be out on the Late Late tonight.

Think we should get those counters on the night shift.

[Kayroo]

In the entire history of the State we have only ever removed two things from the Constitution.

In 1973 we removed the special position of the Catholic Church.

Today we can do that again.

[Strewelpeter]

I'm actually feeling really emotional today. Now that the day is here it feels so fucking massive. I've become increasingly angry over the course of the campaign

There yet be consequences from it so I better wait a while before turning it into a good yarn but I'm ashamed to say that I fell right into the trap offered by those scumbag American tourists and their chopped up fetus posters the other day by giving them the reaction they were looking for.
Not my finest moment by any means but give me positive result and a few weeks to calm down about it and I'll post the TR

[luckforsome]

...Just voted there...Definitely seems to be a bigger turnout so far than in previous referendums...Hopefully it's a high %...

[luckforsome]

...Bought two tickets to Kodaline this morning...It's kinda funny that Ed Sheeran in 2014 was my first ever music concert so had no idea what to expect, and this will be around my 15th since...

[Zod]

Exit polls (pretty volatile but a decent basic guide) will be out on the Late Late tonight.

It's like having to collect your leaving cert results from a cow's arse

[mdoug]

Okay, if this passes then next up how do sort out getting small monies for recycling bottles and cans? Then it will be a super swell country to live in.

[mocata]

Electric picnic had something like 20c for returning a plastic pint glass. There were kids roaming round collecting the whole time,made some difference to the ground must say

[Zod]

Electric picnic had something like 20c for returning a plastic pint glass. There were kids roaming round collecting the whole time,made some difference to the ground must say

it was 5c and they were absolute pests to people working there.

[Tar.Aldarion]

In the entire history of the State we have only ever removed two things from the Constitution.

In 1973 we removed the special position of the Catholic Church.

Today we can do that again.

Just a question you are best able to answer here. Previously I had read from you and other people in the law domain that having clauses in the constitution for "hard cases" was unwieldy and not suitable for having in the constitution, lack of clarity over what a fatal abnormality is, advancements in medicine changing what is fatal and so on which prevents hard criteria. A large group of legal professions came together and have said the opposite, that these things can be catered for in our constitution, from where stems the difference of opinion?

[LuckyLloyd]

Just a question you are best able to answer here. Previously I had read from you and other people in the law domain that having clauses in the constitution for "hard cases" was unwieldy and not suitable for having in the constitution, lack of clarity over what a fatal abnormality is, advancements in medicine changing what is fatal and so on which prevents hard criteria. A large group of legal professions came together and have said the opposite, that these things can be catered for in our constitution, from where stems the difference of opinion?

Before Keith answers, I'd note this is a pro - life grouping of legal professionals, and it would suit them to say something like this and then likely be completely difficult and oppositional down the line if it ever comes to doing what they talk about as possible now.

[Denny Crane]

[Zod]

Just a question you are best able to answer here. Previously I had read from you and other people in the law domain that having clauses in the constitution for "hard cases" was unwieldy and not suitable for having in the constitution, lack of clarity over what a fatal abnormality is, advancements in medicine changing what is fatal and so on which prevents hard criteria. A large group of legal professions came together and have said the opposite, that these things can be catered for in our constitution, from where stems the difference of opinion?

If this was possible, it would have been nice for them to propose this at any point in the last 35 years, or indeed when some of them including William Binchy were writing the original fucking amendment in 1983.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Before Keith answers, I'd note this is a pro - life grouping of legal professionals, and it would suit them to say something like this and then likely be completely difficult and oppositional down the line if it ever comes to doing what they talk about as possible now.

I was imagining that this might just well be the answer however I wondered if there was more to it as some people may be able to extract their personal views from their professional assessment.

[Kayroo]

A large group of legal professions came together and have said the opposite, that these things can be catered for in our constitution, from where stems the difference of opinion?

I'm admitting a touch of bias here but, honestly, I think that the group who say the "hard cases" can be dealt with by alternative amendment are being completely disingenuous. This referendum has been on the cards for a long time. In fact, during both the Citizens Assembly and the Oireachtas Committee deliberations on the 8th they heard testimony and expert opinion - invited from both sides - regarding just such alternatives. No alternative was ever proposed by the No side during those deliberations. In the 6 weeks since the group of lawyers for No came out they haven't produced any sort of alternative wording.

The reason for that is clear. If they produced a wording then other lawyers would be able to do what Peter Sutherland did 35 years ago and tear the proposed wording apart and show how utterly unworkable it would be.

That, by the way, was the conclusion of both the Citizens' Assembly and the Oireachtas Committee - that any form of halfway house amendment would be entirely unworkable in a constitutional framework. Numerous constitutional academics and scholars have come to that conclusion. The No side won't offer them an amendment to consider because they know that no such amendment could possibly work.




On a side note, and noting what Lloyd has said, I sincerely doubt that this group would support an amendment for "hard cases". This is a classic tactic of recent campaigns - say there's a better way without offering one in the hope you swing some people away from Yes and then if the referendum is defeated claim that the people have spoken clearly that they want the status quo to remain.

Iarflaith O'Neill, retired High Court judge, was a legal advisor to the Pro-Life Amendment Campaign - a forerunner to Iona, SPUC etc - that were directly responsible for creating the 8th. It's not surprising to find he is also on the No side and backs this position.

[Kayroo]

I was imagining that this might just well be the answer however I wondered if there was more to it as some people may be able to extract their personal views from their professional assessment.

Unfortunately not

[Strewelpeter]

I was imagining that this might just well be the answer however I wondered if there was more to it as some people may be able to extract their personal views from their professional assessment.

LOL they are Irish lawyers, scruples and morality play no role whatsoever when there is a fee on the table but when it is free to air religious bullshit you will get 'professional' opinion by the truckload

[RichieM]

Just a question you are best able to answer here. Previously I had read from you and other people in the law domain that having clauses in the constitution for "hard cases" was unwieldy and not suitable for having in the constitution, lack of clarity over what a fatal abnormality is, advancements in medicine changing what is fatal and so on which prevents hard criteria. A large group of legal professions came together and have said the opposite, that these things can be catered for in our constitution, from where stems the difference of opinion?

Technically possible and actually feasible are usually very different things.

[Kayroo]

LOL they are Irish lawyers, scruples and morality play no role whatsoever when there is a fee on the table but when it is free to air religious bullshit you will get 'professional' opinion by the truckload

Fuck off Tony. 100 of us came out for No.

Over 1,000 came out for Yes.

Nobody got paid. Get over yourself.

[Raoul Duke III]

55-45. Lock it up.

Quite glad to be out of country though. I did tell one of my US colleagues we were having an abortion referendum today and she got very excited - "that's what Trump wants to do here!". i.e. remove it.

Eh no, we're five decades behind you guys.

[RichieM]

Fuck off Tony. 100 of us came out for No.

Over 1,000 came out for Yes.

Nobody got paid. Get over yourself.

Not on the yes side, I am less convinced that some experts around the land won’t be sticking up new extensions.

I think the big thing to remember is that every dominoes pizza you buy goes to sponsoring this bullshit so vote Pizza Hut for repeal

[Lazare]

That's true about Dominoes, stopped buying it a long time ago.

[ComradeCollie]

That's true about Dominoes, stopped buying it a long time ago.

Might have been partially true 20 years ago. A bit unfair to boycott a company based on its previous owners behaviour.

[Solksjaer!]

FFS you can't even buy a pizza any more.

[Lazare]

I buy Indian pizzas now.

[Zod]

I buy Indian pizzas now.

Apache Pizza is cultural appropriation.

[Zod]

now you see there are people here who will think I'm joking, and agree with me for it, and people here who will think I am being serious and agree with me for it, and both sets of people are right.

[Denny Crane]

cultural appropriation is a load of bollix.

[Theresa]

Apache Pizza is cultural appropriation.

Couple Indian birds own a “Murdoch’s Irish Bar” here in Calgary.

Everyone’s at it.

[oleras]

6 years since I last logged onto boards apparently. And apparently they’ll fully delete my account in a month if I don’t login before then. GDPR has its benefits.

[V for Vendetta]

I haven’t posted anything on the referendum as I just don’t see how it is even a debate. I see this whole thing as finally allowing those without money access to what those with money already have, which is autonomy and access to better health care. The second class nature of our society for women has a long way to go but you could also argue this is a money/class thing to.


The hysterical stuff about abortion as contraception is just ill informed crap as nobody would choose this if they had any sense at all.

As for the religious angle it just saddens me that we have such a warping of a concept of love and respect that it becomes about imposing views and forcing people to conform.

I was out with a bunch of neighbours cleaning up the village (including the front of the church) the other night in advance of a local funeral (sad case). There were fervent religious types and atheists and we were all doing our bit as a community to show our respect and to offer some token to the bereaved. We need more civic engagement opportunities which aren’t built around religions.

The vacuum arising from the move away from organised religion should be embraced by civic and community pride to engage folk rather than divide.

I hope once this referendum passes we move the debate on to the positive things we could be doing with the same energy that has been put into this campaign by both sides.

[eoghan104]

Poor Jack.

That is gas though someone getting their flights home from Canada paid for. You'd want a neck like a jockey's bollocks.

[Jibzzzz]

Thanks for the advice in here lads.

Did the run in the dark 5k which started at custom house and ened up the opposite end at City Quay. Was a very cold night and the standing around wasn't ideal but took part in the warm up and off we went a few minutes late.

Took on the advice here and just took a steady pace throughout, didn't have to stop once which suprised me a lot.

I enjoyed the experience in that shit weather so I can see how you would get into it.

Time was

SPOILER

00:27:25 TARGET SMASHED.

So 6 months on and did my second ever 5k. Have not ran once in the 6 months, however been hitting the gym about 5 times a week for a few months now, down about 8kg. Mainly doing classes - spinning, conditioning, boxing, etc.

Time of 00:23:30, 4 minutes better off, delighted.

The 5k I did was the staff relay in the phoenix park, fantastic event. Every company has a tent full of beer and the route takes you through the tents so you can cheer your colleagues on. One of the better work evenings I have had for sure. As for the route, some hills so it was definitely harder than the docklands.

[Guest]

cultural appropriation is a load of bollix.

My dear boy, there would be no culture without appropriation

[Denny Crane]

My dear boy, there would be no culture without appropriation

Is there fucking anything that hasn't been appropriated?

[Denny Crane]

Went to vote on the way back to work and the woman insisted on being chatty with me instead of just handing it to me, finally just as she's about to go she points at the yes box, "make sure to put in an x there, some people have been making a mistake"

[Guest]

Is there fucking anything that hasn't been appropriated?

Only the shit stuff!