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Originally posted by The Situation View PostI find that post a bit muddled from an advocacy of repealing perspective when she would have made the same decisions regardless.
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Not surprised to see the state of the hospitals as the headline story on the news, I spent today in A&E and I've never seen anything like it, trolleys everywhere and patients and staff under serious pressure. I've been there at busy times before but today was off the scale.
System was still working extraordinarily efficiently to filter out and deal with emergencies . I got a call at 9:30am from one of my fathers carers that they thought he might be having a stroke that came on as he was with him. By 10:45 he was getting the clot busting treatment in the A&E and was on a ward for monitoring by 5PM.
He's not in great shape but he would have been fckd only for the prompt treatment.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostVal de Loire. Was looking at this one on the Cote Sauvage for May school holidays - quite close to La Rochelle airport. Looks class. They're basic enough and food is woeful, but we just made a barbeque each day and had a fantastic time.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostFundamentally the problem is there are too many people who get funnelled to A&E because they've nowhere else to go. If you break a bone you're meant to go to A&E, its ridic. Just keep it for actual emergencies like your dad, and have a lot more primary treatment centres.Turning millions into thousands
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My wife was watching some nonsense tv(something about sister wives.) which posed a good question i think. Question of the day, lets say myself, hitch and Jack are all married to same person. Hitch has monday, i have tuesday, jack has wednesday, rinse and repeat. Well what happens if person starts having an affair on wednesday & saturdays which are Jacks days. They still are into Hitch and I and spending time with us but is cheating on Jacks days.
Are Hitch and I offended and upset because we all in the one "coven" or are we cool because it aint us they're cheating on, if we replace Jack with Strewel are we good with that?
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Nive post Gil. I initially thought it was going to be a "doctors don't know anything" anti-repeal piece. Pleasantly surprised, yet saddening Agree with Eamon though, that sort of extreme story shouldn't really be necessery to get people to think about it objectively.
Originally posted by MrsFlushdraw View PostThe same applies to her and I think more people should read it to maybe understand that it isn't an open and shut case. And that sometimes what we think is the best decision is not necessarily the right one for the baby inside the mothers womb.
Originally posted by The Situation View PostI find that post a bit muddled from an advocacy of repealing perspective when she would have made the same decisions regardless.
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Originally posted by Trippie View PostMy wife was watching some nonsense tv(something about sister wives.) which posed a good question i think. Question of the day, lets say myself, hitch and Jack are all married to same person. Hitch has monday, i have tuesday, jack has wednesday, rinse and repeat. Well what happens if person starts having an affair on wednesday & saturdays which are Jacks days. They still are into Hitch and I and spending time with us but is cheating on Jacks days.
Are Hitch and I offended and upset because we all in the one "coven" or are we cool because it aint us they're cheating on, if we replace Jack with Strewel are we good with that?
Jack might be annoyed at getting snubbed on his days, but I imagine that would apply even if wifey was spending Wednesday and Sat with Hitch or yourself.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostFundamentally the problem is there are too many people who get funnelled to A&E because they've nowhere else to go. If you break a bone you're meant to go to A&E, its ridic. Just keep it for actual emergencies like your dad, and have a lot more primary treatment centres.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostArgh - its this stupid inability by state to realise that the minor cost of paying for non-insured to go to that center would save a fortune and a multitude of stress, that I just don't get.
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Originally posted by Mellor View Post
I think she was saying she'd knows she's make the same selfish decision, but she is recognising the fact that it is a selfish decision. Have to admire their honesty.
The govenrment jibes and shame of going to England comments seemed a bit disingenuous to me as it was never a consideration for her anyway.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostI just don't think the repeal element married in well to what was the main issue. It would have worked better imo as a stand alone piece about the psychology and impossibly difficult decisions of someone going through a pregnancy with a child with severe health issues. That part was very poignant and thought provoking.
The govenrment jibes and shame of going to England comments seemed a bit disingenuous to me as it was never a consideration for her anyway.
Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostI strongly believe that no-one takes the piss with medical stuff. Some people are more worried, or have less knowledge about what is wrong with them, and so might visit more than is strictly necessary, but no-one takes the piss. This is some myth put out to dissuade people from seeking medical attention. It's an awful concept that seems to be widely held.
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Originally posted by Trippie View PostMy wife was watching some nonsense tv(something about sister wives.) which posed a good question i think. Question of the day, lets say myself, hitch and Jack are all married to same person. Hitch has monday, i have tuesday, jack has wednesday, rinse and repeat. Well what happens if person starts having an affair on wednesday & saturdays which are Jacks days. They still are into Hitch and I and spending time with us but is cheating on Jacks days.
Are Hitch and I offended and upset because we all in the one "coven" or are we cool because it aint us they're cheating on, if we replace Jack with Strewel are we good with that?
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostNive post Gil. I initially thought it was going to be a "doctors don't know anything" anti-repeal piece. Pleasantly surprised, yet saddening Agree with Eamon though, that sort of extreme story shouldn't really be necessery to get people to think about it objectively.
I would have thought that the "open and shut case" is to repeal, not the opposite.
I think she was saying she'd knows she's make the same selfish decision, but she is recognising the fact that it is a selfish decision. Have to admire their honesty.
And yes, from the moment you find out you are pregnant, you have this fierce desire to protect your unborn. I think, after reading what that woman wrote, that I would possibly make a different decision to what I may have done. I would like to think I would anyway, but I won't ever know and hopefully, my daughters don't get to find out either.
The post is in a group where woman are sharing stories about things that happened to them. Some are truly heartbreaking, like the one I posted.
But they need to be shown outside the group, it could change someone's view if they see how the laws can affect your family.
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Originally posted by MrsFlushdraw View PostBut they need to be shown outside the group, it could change someone's view if they see how the laws can affect your family.
But this issue seems devoid of rational thought at the times. Say a person would never consider an abortion in the above situation. That's fine. If they value spending 8 months with their baby regardless of suffering, that's their decision. But changing the law doesn't affect that decision for them.
Nobody will be forced to have an abortion. People who are against abortion can continue not having abortions.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostHopefully somebody who is anti-repeal, stops for a minute and actually thinks about it. Rather than just banging out the same oil tune. Wishful perhaps.
But this issue seems devoid of rational thought at the times. Say a person would never consider an abortion in the above situation. That's fine. If they value spending 8 months with their baby regardless of suffering, that's their decision. But changing the law doesn't affect that decision for them.
Nobody will be forced to have an abortion. People who are against abortion can continue not having abortions.
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Originally posted by zuutroy View PostWe're heading to the one near Vannes in July. Looks OK but not sure about 10 days in a glorified caravan. Stumped up for the 'premium' version which might just make it tolerable.
Thus, you might get a few hours to yourself each day."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostArgh - its this stupid inability by state to realise that the minor cost of paying for non-insured to go to that center would save a fortune and a multitude of stress, that I just don't get.
The most change-resistant grouping out there. Look at the shit the teachers have pulled down the years to avoid modernisation."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by MrsFlushdraw View PostChanging the law doesn't affect the decision, but reading about the pain and suffering you can put a tiny baby through for X months might.
If the law is changed, that anti-abortion stance can continue unfaltered - which is why I dont understand why they feel threatened by the thought of repealing the 8th.
Obviously I'm assuming that their motivation is more than just dictating to others what they should and shouldn't do. Maybe I'm giving too much credit.
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post
Fixed that for you
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostI prefer the remix
Gotta meet someone at grand canal area tomorrow.
Recommendations for cheap and cheerful food between there and town? Not looking for anything fancy just nothing shite
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostFor some people it won't. Nothing will. Certain hyper-religious people would never have an abortion under any circumstances. As is their choice. That's who I was refering to. As much as I disagree with that stance, I respect that it's their to make.
If the law is changed, that anti-abortion stance can continue unfaltered - which is why I dont understand why they feel threatened by the thought of repealing the 8th.
Obviously I'm assuming that their motivation is more than just dictating to others what they should and shouldn't do. Maybe I'm giving too much credit.
1-People have been talking about it for decades so we all knew it was coming and what the arguments are.
2-The quality of debate will be abysmal as both sides go straight for the most extreme arguments. This will confirm to their supporters that they are correct and rational while the other side are completely unreasonable and illogical.
Its going to be seriously tedious with me ending up hating the people involved in both sides equally but voting the same way as the grandstanding dickheads who happens to be shouting for the repeal side.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostPutin absolutely taking the piss now- Tillerson (friend to Russia, remember) says it is likely that Russia was behind the Salisbury attempted murders
- Trump sacks him....within hours
The kompromat Putin has on Trump must be outrageous."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post- Tillerson (friend to Russia, remember) says it is likely that Russia was behind the Salisbury attempted murders
- Trump sacks him....within hours
The kompromat Putin has on Trump must be outrageous.
But sure who knows what to believe with all this shite anymore easier to sit back and watch.airport, lol
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post- Tillerson (friend to Russia, remember) says it is likely that Russia was behind the Salisbury attempted murders
- Trump sacks him....within hours
The kompromat Putin has on Trump must be outrageous.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostApparently Tillerson was told few days ago. So it's more a case of he spoke against Russia because he was fired, as opposed to being fired because he spoke against Russia.
But sure who knows what to believe with all this shite anymore easier to sit back and watch."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostNot true; you don't fire your SoS and then send him off on a diplomatic mission.
Makes more sense though. Even trump isn't stupid enough to fire him straight after he said that. He probably said it to fuck him over knowing announcement was coming.airport, lol
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostWhat I read was he told him while he was away. But it's only what I read who knows.
Makes more sense though. Even trump isn't stupid enough to fire him straight after he said that. He probably said it to fuck him over knowing announcement was coming.
So unless we're going to start taking the word of a proven liar and fantasist...I'd say they're right."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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