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Originally posted by Lazare View PostChurch are it's patrons though.
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I went to a gaelscoil in the 1980s in Galway, as did my two brothers - my parents must have been really, really scared of all of the Muslims and asylum seekers in the west of Ireland at that time, Connacht was just brimming with them
I'd rather my own kids go to a gaelscoil ahead of a traditional catholic English-language school, for sure, though would prefer an Educate Together ahead of all of them. I can see the benefits of schooling trà Gaeilge. I feel like I'm actually re-learning a lot of my Irish over the past few years with all of the TG4 rugby coverage!
Are there any Gaelscoil Educate Together schools out there I wonder?
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Our nearest school is a gaelscoil, but we're not sending the kid there a I want to be able to help with homework and stuff when needed, which I couldn't do through Irish. The missus works in a different gaelscoil too so she'd have no problem helping obviously, but I want to be able to participate a bit, so educate together on the other side of town it will be (providing he gets in).
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Originally posted by jack90210 View PostGaelscoils going to be interviewing preschoolers to ensure Irish proficiency due to level of demand, I wonder why these schools are so popular now?
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GF is a primary teacher. She's taught in both Catholic and Educate Together. I know one thing from a teachers perspective is that Educate Together is not based on diocese so teachers can freely apply without being tied to a specific teaching panel.
The lure of a permanent job for any teacher outside of Dublin is unbelievable. Finding a permanent post and intending to never move is deeply ingrained in them.
She's currently permanent in a Catholic school while her sis is middle management in an Educate Together. Ive never asked for a objective opinion on preference, it would be hard to come by as it's always about how hard a teachers life is
I'll ask her sis about the Educate Together gaelscoil if no one else has an answer
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostThe taxi back to Dublin is going to be expensive
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Originally posted by jack90210 View PostGaelscoils going to be interviewing preschoolers to ensure Irish proficiency due to level of demand, I wonder why these schools are so popular now?
Thank fuck I didn't go down that road as she hated Irish with a passion and told us from a young age it was a useless and dead language and she really has no use for it!
It was like a class system, you felt you were one better if your kid went to the Gaelscoil. But that is just Donegal, no idea about the reasons elsewhere. There is not the level of immigrants up there as down in Dublin etc.
It just seems to be a personal choice and for some more Patriotic than sending them to the run of the mill schools.
There is a larger amount of non-denominational schools up where we were due to the amount of non-catholic children. But Catholic children were also in these schools. There was only one Educate Together and it would never have entered my head to send the kids there.
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Originally posted by Keane View PostCan those long usernames be made to wrap instead of breaking the column widths easily dom?
Edit: I found something that might work that I can try later if I think of it once I'm home. Changing css templates manually isn't ideal though but I can see how it works.Last edited by 6starpool; 12-02-18, 11:26.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostCheers! I default-buy anything you recommend
Was looking at the Oink series of Japanese games, but don't really suit us as we haven't got a gaming group. But they look fantastic. Have you played any?
Do you buy any of the games on kickstarter? It looks like a rather cool way to get in on the ground for new games and then have random games turn up in your mail box in X number of undetermined months time.
I don't buy any games on there as my mates buy so many. I just filtered how many one backed last year from my email notifications...81. He's backed 8 this year so far. There are a good few people like him at my meetup so I never really buy too many games. They certainly allude to the euphoric mystery boardgame arrival that you write of.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostHere is a challenge for the BBV.
Nominate a pub (ideally Dublin c.c.) that will be showing Cheltenham, has a bookies within 10m of its front door, ideally a decent selection of gins and also has a high tolerance for eejitry.
tyPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostWe'll fly down with AirZuut for the day!
Actually...
Have to fly up to Derry (40 mins) and bus it back (4 hours). Oh the glamour of aircraft ownership.
Also don't have instrument rating yet, so too weather sensitive to make committed travel plans.
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Originally posted by zuutroy View PostOff to Derry for annual maintenance this week and touch and go whether it's back by then.
Have to fly up to Derry (40 mins) and bus it back (4 hours). Oh the glamour of aircraft ownership.
Also don't have instrument rating yet, so too weather sensitive to make committed travel plans."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by zuutroy View PostWeston doesn't have lights either, so we'd need to be leave before the last race!People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21
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Originally posted by jbravado View PostAre results generally just not better in Gaelscoils
Very hard to know without stats and you are not going to find any accurate numbers.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThink it's a silly choice to choose a gael-scoil btw. There's a lot is pseudo-science around it making it easier to learn other proper languages - but if that's the case then why not have schools that teach modern languages directly - e.g. the French school or German school in Dublin.
Otherwise you're learning French solely to make holidays there easier! German, Spanish and Mandarin are actually useful, and learning Irish is something that many people in Ireland think is worthwhile (more in the Gaelic west than in the Anglo east, fair enough), French is just a waste of time. The sunk cost is shocking in my case, studied it for about four years in primary school and six years in secondary! I'd rather have learned Latin...
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostHow is German a better choice than French?! I agree they're both limited, but aons better than Irish which you devoted more time to learning. French opens up Spanish, Italian. Spanish seems most useful now of European languages, but demographics of Africa point towards that being the future global driver of growth. So French + English gives you access to there. Chinese is an obvious winner, but seems just too difficult. Same with Arabic.
Spanish would be the one I would recommend learning.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostHow is German a better choice than French?! I agree they're both limited, but aons better than Irish which you devoted more time to learning. French opens up Spanish, Italian. Spanish seems most useful now of European languages, but demographics of Africa point towards that being the future global driver of growth. So French + English gives you access to there. Chinese is an obvious winner, but seems just too difficult. Same with Arabic.
Arabic never crossed mind but being there is a clear ambition in the UK to make it a Western centre for Islamic finance and the continued efforts for more Shariah complaint Sukuks, you would have to imagine it deserves consideration.
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Originally posted by ionapaul View PostWhatever about German, learning French was the ultimate in wasted time for me - can't believe it was (and probably still is) the main language pushed in many Irish schools after English and Gaeilge. If you are one of a tiny fraction of a % of Irish people (pulled that stat out of my ass, feel free to correct me people!) that emigrate to France, Switzerland or southern Belgium later in life, cool, it will be useful. Or obviously if you become an Irish emigrant in west Africa, New Caledonia or a few other 3rd world places.
Otherwise you're learning French solely to make holidays there easier! German, Spanish and Mandarin are actually useful, and learning Irish is something that many people in Ireland think is worthwhile (more in the Gaelic west than in the Anglo east, fair enough), French is just a waste of time. The sunk cost is shocking in my case, studied it for about four years in primary school and six years in secondary! I'd rather have learned Latin...
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI have great intentions to learn a new language. I assumed German was the way to go because I figured Chinese would be too difficult but two of the German guys in the class speak fluent Chinese and said it's actually not that bad.
Arabic never crossed mind but being there is a clear ambition in the UK to make it a Western centre for Islamic finance and the continued efforts for more Shariah complaint Sukuks, you would have to imagine it deserves consideration.
https://www.reuters.com/article/isla...-idUSL5N1M10AQ
I find languages easy, speak German and French. Lived there for a year, did classes for the first three months, joined a all Chinese soccer team and only had Chinese TV and by the end of the year it was still routinely a struggle to tell a taxi where to go. Found it absolutely impossible to learn the language.
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Originally posted by jbravado View PostI am always highly skeptical of Westerners who say they speak "fluent" Chinese. When I was living over there occasionally would run into people who gave it the whole ah yeah I speak it routine. Always went the same way, the Chinese wouldn't have a rashers what they were trying to say. Issue is two fold insofar as it is obv so tonal but also the Chinese in general if it was close to understanding them or not would lean on the side of caution and just say nothing if it meant having to take a leap at what was being said.
I find languages easy, speak German and French. Lived there for a year, did classes for the first three months, joined a all Chinese soccer team and only had Chinese TV and by the end of the year it was still routinely a struggle to tell a taxi where to go. Found it absolutely impossible to learn the language.
That said, supposedly all the internationals are fluent English speakers and some are very weak like you said. There is only 5-6 native English speakers in the class so we are never stuck for offers for group projects, odd being in the minority.
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Originally posted by 5starpool View PostYou did French in primary school? Must have been a mighty high falutin place for the time.
Hitch, I guess you are right that French and German might be equally useless in the grand scheme of things! Spanish and Mandarin the only show in town really in terms of truly useful extra languages after English. Most Germans probably speak English but the majority of Spanish and Mandarin speakers don't have a word of it; did a year of Mandarin about a decade ago and despite that found myself unable to communicate effectively the two trips to China in the meantime, can't do the tones very well, can't understand anyone else and can't get them to understand me.
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Originally posted by ionapaul View PostI wouldn't have thought so at the time... Gaeilscoil where we did about 4 years of French and 1 year of German before heading off to secondary. The secondary actually had an Irish stream (one of the three classes in each year was all Irish) but I didn't do it and despite finishing up six years down the line with relatively strong Gaeilge I regret it, could have been much better.
Hitch, I guess you are right that French and German might be equally useless in the grand scheme of things! Spanish and Mandarin the only show in town really in terms of truly useful extra languages after English. Most Germans probably speak English but the majority of Spanish and Mandarin speakers don't have a word of it; did a year of Mandarin about a decade ago and despite that found myself unable to communicate effectively the two trips to China in the meantime, can't do the tones very well, can't understand anyone else and can't get them to understand me.
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Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View PostAnyone used Cervantes Institute in Dublin for learning Spanish? (on a search V4V mentioned it)
Seems the sort of thing that would be a reasonably fun and rewarding way of spending some time and a few hundred euro."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI think paying someone to sit with you 1-1 is probably the way to go. I am constantly embarrassed by my lack of language skills, feel like a moron when I go to Brussels and everyone else speaks at least 4.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThink it's a silly choice to choose a gael-scoil btw. There's a lot is pseudo-science around it making it easier to learn other proper languages - but if that's the case then why not have schools that teach modern languages directly - e.g. the French school or German school in Dublin.
Neither parent a native Irish speaker here btw. Both kids gone on to an English speaking secondary school for logistical reasons and no real desire or need to keep the Irish going.Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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