Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[Strewelpeter]

Yes. Well done, now you're catching on. And if someone manages to get a Shrewsbury I would like to split the 10k prize with them.

I'd go to 7.5K

[oleras]

That coach is some cunt. Looking forward to hard knocks to see how Winston comes off

I see they have a new school for S3

[Strewelpeter]

A fantastic guitarist just died but better known for his singing. RIP Glen Campbell

Two versions of this came up on my spotify feed today, one by REM and one by a band I never heard of

Still haven't heard a better version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU

[Strewelpeter]

And to all practical intents and purposes making the assumption that men and women are different in the workplace is highly dodgy. The vast majority of those "1000s" of published studies won't have looked at the workplace. That makes a big difference.

Absolutely, this cannot be overstated, he is talking specifically about SWE in Google not coal mining !

The guy thought he was standing on the shoulders of giants making his arguments, but actually it's a pillar of salt. Can't really blame him, but he does have a bit of a naive view of how to take a body of literature and translate it properly to the context he did.

The stuff he is quoting is mostly applied bolloxology that makes the sort of behavioral economics guff you do be going on with seem
rigorous

[Guest]

Perhaps because they are boys clubs.

Are they though?

Is any boy allowed to enter?

[Guest]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/aug/08/earl-cameron-britains-first-black-actor-interview-james-bond

Legend!

[Guest]

Liverpool should sell coutinho for top whack to Barcelona and raid PSG with all the monies!

There I said it; it's been said!

[Lord Sir Banter]

He's being a cranky cunt today though

Wonder where he got that?!

[Guest]

More Trumpspiration,I must try this would definitely put a pep in your step

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-folder-positive-news-white-house

President Donald Trump has a folder delivered to him twice a day that's full of positive headlines, tweets, interviews, and sometimes photographs of him on TV "looking powerful," VICE News reported on Tuesday.

The folder, dubbed "the Propaganda Document" by some in the White House, is prepared by the communications team. The only feedback the White House press shop has ever gotten about the folder, VICE said, was that "it needs to be more f------ positive."

[Iago]

only 3 days left for Fantasy Football entries folks, cut off is 5PM on Friday

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

...

[RichieM]

From the article Tara posted:



It really is a closed topic. Denying it is roughly equivalent to denying global warming.

It really is not and there is still much debate at this stage you can get an expert to back absolutely every point of view. Quoting on article that Tara had with 4 PHD's backing it while another article referencing thousands of studies shows the opposite https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/diffe...ted-adam-grant

[RichieM]

I'm not too sure those differences between men and women are all that real. Read a lot of papers on the issue when I published a paper in the area, and the 'differences' were all very malleable. E.g. the finding that 'men take more risk than women' isn't precisely true, and not really true at all. Women who are confident in an area take just as much risk as men. It's very domain specific. And a young woman and young man will be closer on risk taking than a young man and an old man.

And to all practical intents and purposes making the assumption that men and women are different in the workplace is highly dodgy. The vast majority of those "1000s" of published studies won't have looked at the workplace. That makes a big difference.

The guy thought he was standing on the shoulders of giants making his arguments, but actually it's a pillar of salt. Can't really blame him, but he does have a bit of a naive view of how to take a body of literature and translate it properly to the context he did.

I must also note the conspiratorial comment of richem that scientific outcomes are determined by who paid! I think there's almost none of this in proper academic research, and probably 100% of this in commercial research.

You should get into commercial research Hitch

[ionapaul]

Two versions of this came up on my spotify feed today, one by REM and one by a band I never heard of

Still haven't heard a better version

I think the Villagers version is really good, heard it live a year or so ago - 'tis up on Youtube somewhere.

[Solksjaer!]

Liverpool should sell coutinho for top whack to Barcelona and raid PSG with all the monies!

There I said it; it's been said!

Portsmouth , Southampton and Gillingham?

[Solksjaer!]

I think the Villagers version is really good, heard it live a year or so ago - 'tis up on Youtube somewhere.

Nice tight band. Played OV a while back. Deserve more love on the big stage .

[Mike]

Really liking French campsites. Never been to one before except those shite ones in Tramore and Salthill. Think it was zuut who recommended Yelloh, maybe Mike too. They're rather great at what they do. You can kinda put up with the slumming it aspect when your meals are bbq'd and there's a zillion things for kids to do.

Wasn't me who recommended Yelloh, I just recommended camping holidays in general. We took our 5 and a 3 year old here this year and the kids loved it.

The wife won't consider a villa holiday until the kids get a little older as the facilities for kids are good. We don't put them in the kids camps but with a few pools, Pétanque, soccer etc the kids have a ball. The beach was only a few mins drive away as well.

[Guest]

You would be scared to admit you aren't going to watch any of the Women's Rugby World Cup games in the current climate. Better stick a flag on the car just in case

[Strewelpeter]

Trump says no more threats or we'll nuke you
Kim makes a new and very explicit threat to nuke Guam
Fire and Fury to follow then

[KevIRL]

You would be scared to admit you aren't going to watch any of the Women's Rugby World Cup games in the current climate. Better stick a flag on the car just in case

No interest whatsoever in women's sports. Only exception being the Olympics.

[Strewelpeter]

No interest whatsoever in women's sports. Only exception being the Olympics.

As Womens sport goes Rugby can, if the teams are well matched, be enjoyable to watch.

[Solksjaer!]

As Womens sport goes Rugby can, if the teams are well matched, be enjoyable to watch.

[V for Vendetta]

No interest whatsoever in women's sports. Only exception being the Olympics.

I'd watch women's tennis, rugby occasionally and whatever that indoor American football league played in underwear that used to be shown in the SE.

Fucking love the women's curling at the Winter Olympics too. Women cleaning the ice - what a sport!!

[Guest]

I must say the LaPoste tracking service is top notch.

08/09/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

08/09/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

08/07/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Revolut update (my money was stolen over a few months and I never got notifications about it):

Sent a formal complaint to them and they have sent me all the money I'm owed fairly instantly, regardless of whether charge backs work or not. You have to give merchants 45 days to contest the charge-backs.

They are still pretty clueless (read: don't want to admit) about the notification issue causing people to lose more money, so be careful on that front.

[shrapnel]

I must say the LaPoste tracking service is top notch.

08/09/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

08/09/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

08/07/2017
Your parcel is being shipped.

there is no tracking system for international post from la poste

[Guest]

there is no tracking system for international post from la poste

Well the tracking number works. Maybe there is for their parcel service?

https://www.laposte.fr/particulier/outils/en/track-a-parcel?code=CC770491813FR

[Strewelpeter]

They are still pretty clueless (read: don't want to admit) about the notification issue causing people to lose more money, so be careful on that front.

I'm very interested to find out what happened there.
Doesn't make sense, if they had pwnd your account they would have topped up. Some sort of a bug somewhere.

[Tar.Aldarion]

There are a couple of ways I know they didn't have access to my account. Unfortunately Revolut would never tell me something that could be used against them, regarding the bug.

[shrapnel]

Well the tracking number works. Maybe there is for their parcel service?

https://www.laposte.fr/particulier/o...=CC770491813FR

the tracking number registers on the website, but you won't get any more details than what you have unfortunately.

[gorrrr72]

The point is that in the course of routine traffic stop, the guy gets a gun pointed right at him at point blank for ten minutes. Can you imagine what that feels like? Whatever happens before of after that, that guy is going to be permanently affected by that.

Had similar situations 3 times, I wouldn't say it was comfortable but I didn't feel especially threatened. I knew after things were checked out that I would be free to go, I didn't have an attitude, didn't make any sudden moves, did exactly as I was told etc.

[Guest]

The point is that in the course of routine traffic stop, the guy gets a gun pointed right at him at point blank for ten minutes. Can you imagine what that feels like? Whatever happens before of after that, that guy is going to be permanently affected by that.

You never crossed the old border with the North I take it!?

[Solksjaer!]

Men V Wimmin …A soliders tale.

I cheated at paintball once, I rubbed off the paint and continued to glory , capturing the flag as I stormed their base.

I enjoyed the taste of glory.

This however backfired as I forgot to wash my hands and ate the paint with my sambo during a lunch break.

It was nothing serious but had the reverse placebo effect on me. I thought I was going to die. (I didn’t fyi)

There were wimmin on both teams and whilst they were as bloodthirsty as the rest of us they were a bit crybaby when the gun was fired from close range plus they were very judgemental on the cheating. It was only a game and I got unlucky via a ricochet

but the rules are rules wimmin wouldn’t let it go.This led to several illegal close range cry baby inducing shots in the next few games.

I didn’t cry when my trousers were ruined nor did I cry when I got ordered to the firing range for cheating (ratted out by da wimmin) .

Not one bloke objected , twas only the wimmin. It’s always the same, the wimmin ruin everything. Wimmin eh?

[Theresa]

Trump says no more threats or we'll nuke you
Kim makes a new and very explicit threat to nuke Guam
Fire and Fury to follow then

How come you don't believe anything else he says but you believe this?

[Keane]

This North Korea thing is some nothingburger

I've said it before but I'll say it again...

I've noticed that there are a lot of articles lately discussing how NK's missiles are capable of hitting US states now. These threads usually devolve into arguments about how Japan must be getting antsy or how Seoul is (or is not) at risk of artillery shelling or chemical attacks. Not to mention, how China love-hates North Korea. Before we get into any war scenarios, I want to make this point:

Even if we agree that North Korea has the ability to attack America, we must ask the more important question of whether they have a REASON to attack America or her allies.

If NK was more powerful than America, maybe they'd attack us. But they're not. Not by a long shot. You know that. All that rhetoric of engulfing America in a sea of flames is FOR THEIR OWN PEOPLE - who by the way are increasingly ignoring the propaganda themselves. South Koreans and North Korean defectors are waging a cultural war in North Korea by sending in USB drives full of KPOP and KDRAMAS and KFILMS. If you want internal change, that's how you do it. You have to subvert the propaganda with proof of wealth on the outside, not meet it head on by upping our own militant rhetoric. That's playing into their own game!

If we as the public and you Media folks fail to parse out the fact that NK gov't prefers the status quo, we will only bring fear and greater uncertainty to the American public because we will continue to read headlines about NK's capabilities without factoring in their reasoning.

Import side note: calling Kim Jong Un "crazy" or "unstable" doesn't do us any good because it shifts our perspective of him. We need to interpret his actions carefully, not dismiss them arrogantly. Every move he has made, from gaining weight so that he looks more like his revered grandfather to killing his China-backed brother, Kim Jong Un's actions are carefully considered to ensure his regime's preservation.

In the face of these facts we need to ask ourselves this simple question: Would he have anything to gain by attacking America or her allies with a nuclear strike?

If you've been paying attention the answer should be a resounding no. The second NK strikes first, they lose any and all moral authority as the aggressor and they leave themselves open to merciless retaliation and a sure end to the Kim dynasty.

The opposite would be true if the US were to attack. The second America strikes first, China and Russia would point an accusatory finger at us for disrupting the status quo in a region that has seen stability and growth for decades now. South Korea, should it not give consent will feel betrayed by her most important ally for going behind her back. You folks chiming in every so often saying it's "time to do something" without understanding any of this are only making the situation WORSE. You're giving journos clicks for inflammatory headlines. You're giving writers a reason to make that headline more scary and you're feeding the bias that comes from misunderstanding.

Believe me I'm no fan of the current administration but even Trump knows this. It's why he hasn't attacked. It's why he's been trying to pressure China. You don't think he'd have done something by now if he could when he's losing face over the NK issue?

China has been happily advancing its society for the last few decades and anything to hinder this progress will be stopped with great prejudice. As such a war in Korea would throw the world's economy into chaos. You're advocating a conflict between China, the US, Korea, and Japan and you don't think that's gonna be the case? South Korea is not only a major trading partner, investor, and employer in America, it is now a regional power in Asia that should be given full consideration before any action is taken and as far as I can tell articles and comment threads don't give much attention to the South Korean perspective.

America and her Allies have aligned interests. If you go America first at the sake of an ally's wishes, you're going to lose whatever faith our other allies have in us. It's why our guarantee of retaliation is so powerful. If we didn't retaliate against a NK strike on our allies, our guarantee of security to other allies will crumble.

Sen. Lindsey Graham seems to think America wouldn't suffer in case of a war in Korea. Let me assure you if there is war American jobs will be lost (those employed by Korean companies), American lives will be lost (servicemen and civilians in Korea), and America may well lose favor among East Asian nations if the war gets out of hand and the repercussions echo throughout the region. That is to say, refugees from South Korea will flee to Japan. North Koreans will flee to China.

And you think Syria is bad?

A NK nuclear strike on America or her allies is out of the question. NK will not strike first with nuclear arms unless we corner them. You know what they say about cornering prey right? It's the dumbest thing you can do because they will go all out when there is nothing to lose. Always leave room to escape (de-escalate).

By getting suckered into the media narrative of a greater chance of war, our countries inch closer to war because of the increased fear among the public. Fear blinds us and when fear is founded on incomplete information, we make poor choices on top of being blinded.

We have missile defense systems in America and Japan. We are not without recourse there and therefore the threat is not really there. The threat is to South Korea who is a bit too close for most systems to be effective as I understand especially in an artillery barrage scenario. This is why the THAAD is so controversial. It's nice to have, but unnecessary considering the other threats it won't deter (artillery) and the political fallout it leads to (China retaliating economically against South Korea). Not to mention, South Korea already possesses America's retaliation as a deterrent to a nuclear strike as covered above.

It is true that North Korea is growing in capability and there are valid fears that even if NK never attacks, they could still sell their nuclear technology. To this I say increase monitoring and disincentivize those countries or entities who would seek to buy. I hear the Iran deal is working out alright so far.

Nuclear technology will spread throughout the world as a matter of time just as gunpowder weapons did. It will be impossible to stop the proliferation of information but what we can do is deter the USE of this information by not pushing each other into corners. What we should do instead is invest heavily in defensive technology to preemptively castrate any possible threats by proliferating wealth and trade relationships with "problem" countries. We also need to remember though that the Korean war was a proxy war between Stalinist forces and US forces in the aftermath of World War 2.

Instead of dividing up Japan like we did Germany after the war, we divided up Korea who had been suffering from Japanese exploitation for 30+ years all because Korea is located in a more strategically significant location (next to China). We must therefore understand that NK's increased nuclear capabilities are also an extension of modern Russian and US relations. The two will avoid a direct confrontation but wherever they can they will try to top each other (see Ukraine, Syria, now North Korea).

If NK starts rampaging through Asia, sure let's wipe them out. But NK has yet to invade a country since ceasefire in 1953 (save for a brief stint with the NVA, which SK was on the other side of). Skirmishes have occurred, but neither side wants it to escalate any further.

To close, I want to emphasize the importance of building the relationship between the USA and SK, USA and China, and China and SK. The stronger these relationships are (read: better informed) the even less likely NK will dare to step out of line. China won't stop feeding NK behind the scenes so if the other relationships listed get complicated, we will have lost the long term war as China gets stronger by virtue of population and NK climbs out of poverty in the long run via the feeding tube.So long as America can align its desires for the status quo (as with China) by building up relationships with Countries around NK, we will continue to prevent war as we have the last 70 years. Mr. President, please feel free to ignore the NK threat as there is none in the face of America's overwhelming advantage in every respect. America, don't entertain the idea of striking preemptively and you won't give China and Russia any political ammo to shoot at us. If NK goes postal on SK then yeah let loose the hounds of war but till then rest easy as we have countermeasures in place already.

TLDR: If America wants peace it has one option. Better journalism. Stop talking about what NK is capable of and start talking about what NK wants: the status quo. Also include what WE are capable of in defensive terms. Should the bald eagle bat its eyes when the bunny bares its teeth?

https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6sfvxd/trump_if_north_korea_escalates_nuclear_threat/dlclsnx/?sh=e918f6b5&st=J64CHVSS

[Strewelpeter]

Manafort's home was raided by FBI pre dawn the morning after he met the Intelligence committee That corresponds with the time Trump went all twitter rage 'its my ball' on Mueller.
Shit is getting real.
I would have thought he wouldn't be stupid enough to be in possession of anything juicy at home by then.

[bp_me]

Well the tracking number works. Maybe there is for their parcel service?

https://www.laposte.fr/particulier/o...=CC770491813FR

You will probably find that DPD will be the delivery agents here but there is a good chance of the tracking getting lost in translation.


On an unrelated note... moving sucks!

[Theresa]

I struggle to see how a nuke would even get near the US mainland?

Seems like everyone is talking waffle at the moment.

[Hectorjelly]

I struggle to see how a nuke would even get near the US mainland?

Seems like everyone is talking waffle at the moment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/far-can-north-korean-missiles-travel/

"In the last two years, however, the North Korean military has stepped up its test launches of a number of new missile variants, demonstrating with the most recent launches that they can travel more than 7,400 miles."

[Raoul Duke III]

How come you don't believe anything else he says but you believe this?

SP didn't say he believed it.

I think the point is that it's an insanely dangerous thing for the President of the USA to say.

[Hectorjelly]

Men V Wimmin …A soliders tale.

I cheated at paintball once, I rubbed off the paint and continued to glory , capturing the flag as I stormed their base.

I enjoyed the taste of glory.

This however backfired as I forgot to wash my hands and ate the paint with my sambo during a lunch break.

It was nothing serious but had the reverse placebo effect on me. I thought I was going to die. (I didn’t fyi)

There were wimmin on both teams and whilst they were as bloodthirsty as the rest of us they were a bit crybaby when the gun was fired from close range plus they were very judgemental on the cheating. It was only a game and I got unlucky via a ricochet

but the rules are rules wimmin wouldn’t let it go.This led to several illegal close range cry baby inducing shots in the next few games.

I didn’t cry when my trousers were ruined nor did I cry when I got ordered to the firing range for cheating (ratted out by da wimmin) .

Not one bloke objected , twas only the wimmin. It’s always the same, the wimmin ruin everything. Wimmin eh?

Paintball is a rubbish because people cheat and no-one enforces the rules. I'm with the wimmin on this one.

[DeadParrot]

I struggle to see how a nuke would even get near the US mainland?

Seems like everyone is talking waffle at the moment.

fear as a distraction (for trump & co) and conflict is clickbait (for media).
MSM hold the high horse and (rightly) calls out the craziness of the current US administration.
But as soon as a sniff of war comes along, explosions and projected death tolls will top the front page. It also ties nicely in with the trump will kill us all narrative.

NK want respect, the want the ability to sit at the big boys table as a nuclear power. It's a game they are playing quite a while to push and then back down. As soon as they have demonstrably proved they have ICBM abilities, proper diplomacy will take over. Until then it is sabre rattling on all sides.

[Strewelpeter]

State dept desperately trying to backtrack now, almost impossible without them actually stating our leader is a moron but they are doing their best.

The way Kim snap called his bluster and have left him, and by extension the USA, look like blithering idiots was quite a humiliation for the administration.

We are dealing with two of the bottom five world leaders here, PRK have the capability but are unlikely to press play.
Trump is desperate, insecure and stupid enough to try to do something even more stupid than last nights idiocy but I doubt they would let him actually fire one off... there are some adults around aren't there?

[Denny Crane]

"Trump's spiritual advisor"

What a time to be alive!

[Solksjaer!]

Paintball is a rubbish because people cheat and no-one enforces the rules. I'm with the wimmin on this one.

Has my story taught you nothing. I faced the firing squad. Wimmin are dangerous . Cheating makes presidents . Hero's out of Frenchmen and fitz dealers get to hone their dealing skills :-)

[Theresa]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/fa...ssiles-travel/

"In the last two years, however, the North Korean military has stepped up its test launches of a number of new missile variants, demonstrating with the most recent launches that they can travel more than 7,400 miles."

Yes they can travel 7,400 miles.
I mean it more as... surely the US have some defence systems set up for this.

SP didn't say he believed it.

I think the point is that it's an insanely dangerous thing for the President of the USA to say.

Fair.

[shrapnel]

Conditions in London are appalling. I ve never seen the water jump in the steeple chase overflowing in that manner. Makes for a seriously difficult jump for the ladies at the moment. Good few girls falling in waist deep lol.

[Emmet]

Conditions in London are appalling. I ve never seen the water jump in the steeple chase overflowing in that manner. Makes for a seriously difficult jump for the ladies at the moment. Good few girls falling in waist deep lol.

weather absolutely disgusting here, threw on the Women's Rugby and it looks glorious back home.

[dobby]

Glorious sunshine here all day. About 20degrees or so. Currently sitting in the back garden with homemade spag bol and a couple of cold beers.

[Hectorjelly]

Yes they can travel 7,400 miles.
I mean it more as... surely the US have some defence systems set up for this.

From my limited knowledge of it, they do; but its a very difficult thing to do and you only have to let one through for catastrophe to happen.

[shrapnel]

weather absolutely disgusting here, threw on the Women's Rugby and it looks glorious back home.

Where are they playing? Definitely looks glorious

[shrapnel]

Where are they playing? Definitely looks glorious

Never mind they just said ucd. Thought it looked familiar

[Strewelpeter]

weather absolutely disgusting here, threw on the Women's Rugby and it looks glorious back home.

Ah Whist, would ya! Its like the only time this century its rained for more than a couple of hours in that Landhan

[Guest]

Ah Whist, would ya! Its like the only time this century its rained for more than a couple of hours in that Landhan

16 degrees during day; no wind to speak of, soft enough says Dan!

[AndyFatBastard]

My American m8 who's visiting soon wants to know how hard would it be to get tickets for the hurling final and how you would go about that. Any tips m8s?

[Guest]

My American m8 who's visiting soon wants to know how hard would it be to get tickets for the hurling final and how you would go about that. Any tips m8s?

Tell him to start ridin some Camogie player from Galway and hope for the best!

[dobby]

My American m8 who's visiting soon wants to know how hard would it be to get tickets for the hurling final and how you would go about that. Any tips m8s?

Extremely hard with the hurling every year but more so this year with Galway looking likely to win their first one in a long time. Wouldn't know how to go about it unless you know a gaa club member that could apply for a ticket?

[Guest]

My American m8 who's visiting soon wants to know how hard would it be to get tickets for the hurling final and how you would go about that. Any tips m8s?

I'd imagine this year will be hardest in a while given Kilkenny and tipp aren't there ,have been easier to pick up on the day in recent years than the football

[6starpool]

I agree with the people who said small babies are essentially just needy lumps with no payback at all apart from the unerring cuteness and some contented cuddles just after feeds mostly. I'm looking forward to the more interactive phases of things.

[KevIRL]

My American m8 who's visiting soon wants to know how hard would it be to get tickets for the hurling final and how you would go about that. Any tips m8s?

Depends. If Cork win Sunday then it will be very difficult due to the population down there and the big bandwagon effect this year. A Waterford-Galway final will see the usual scramble in the preceding weeks but plenty of tickets available by the Thursday of AI final week as people end up stuck with extras from seeking them out of different sources.

In short, likely to not guarantee one until very close to the game and Up the Deise.