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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostBlame labour. If they were a viable opposition they'd walk it.
Although now that Putin has weaponised social media, he has backed people into echo chambers where they would vote for terrible options out of spite.
The UK has no good options really."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostI think it's a pretty easy narrative to believe without much concrete evidence.
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Originally posted by RichieM View PostYa the misses wanted it when she was on mat leave and haven’t canceled it. Selection is terrible alrightOriginally posted by DeadParrot View Postthink im on my 3rd or 4th prime trial.
handy for black friday stuff
Although you’ll likely have taken notice of Amazon’s marketing of the games, it’s important to note that the games are not available to Amazon Prime customers in Ireland
People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostI dealt with enough of them, they are made stupid, react not think, fed by bad school system and press.
As soon as you question it, anger or ... actual thought and sheepish joke, next day back to spouting slogans!
Look at this fucktard
He would have been in a poorhouse or press-ganged onto a ship during empire and struggled to see 30
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostHow would I go about downloading an RTE show that is on RTE Player but not on regular torrents. There was a show about my dad's charity on Monday and want to keep it for posterity.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by cardshark202 View PostCorrect me if I'm wrong but I think what Daragh was getting at there was that it's not necessarily Labour's lack of viability as much as their perceived lack of viability due to their and Corbyn's portryal across most mainstream media.
FFS, 3 years+ and he still can't bring himself to take a position on the single most existential issue facing the UK. He's beyond shit.
Any half-way decent leader would have routed the Tories in May's GE."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostCorbyn is probably the least inspiring leader of the opposition since Michael Foot.
FFS, 3 years+ and he still can't bring himself to take a position on the single most existential issue facing the UK. He's beyond shit.
Any half-way decent leader would have routed the Tories in May's GE.
Do the candidates exist but don't want to lead a party in the current climate or is there simply no adequate replacement?
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
FFS, 3 years+ and he still can't bring himself to take a position on the single most existential issue facing the UK.
His position is coherent and honest, just because it is too complex for a tabloid headline or a Dom Cummings slogan doesn't mean it is unclear.
He is at the helm of a party that is deeply split by the issue and is campaigning on a clear plan to renegotiate a brexit deal that would get as close as possible to his party's aims and would put that deal up against remain in a referendum. As party leader he would not take a position on the referendum which would allow his individual party members to form their own position.
But you already knew that and still went the lazy tabloid routeTurning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostAssuming there are some decent Labour MP's who are very aware of how precarious the Tory position is under Johnson, what's the rationale for allowing Corbyn to continue to flounder?
Do the candidates exist but don't want to lead a party in the current climate or is there simply no adequate replacement?
Corbyn has already survived two(?) leadership challenges. By hook or by crook, the membership decided he is there guy.
The fact policy seems to be going slightly against mandate might mean his days are numbered.
There is also a very real possibility a coalition is possible under the provision that Corbyn is replaced. That'll be the real box office moment.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAh Come on if ever there was need for an issue to be treated with subtlety and nuance...
His position is coherent and honest, just because it is too complex for a tabloid headline or a Dom Cummings slogan doesn't mean it is unclear.
He is at the helm of a party that is deeply split by the issue and is campaigning on a clear plan to renegotiate a brexit deal that would get as close as possible to his party's aims and would put that deal up against remain in a referendum. As party leader he would not take a position on the referendum which would allow his individual party members to form their own position.
But you already knew that and still went the lazy tabloid route
numbers have plummeted amongst Remainers, gone down with young people, gone down with Londoners and the Lib Dem overall are now close to falling into single figures in the national polls.
Despite all that, she is targeting labour instead of the Tories.People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAh Come on if ever there was need for an issue to be treated with subtlety and nuance...
His position is coherent and honest, just because it is too complex for a tabloid headline or a Dom Cummings slogan doesn't mean it is unclear.
He is at the helm of a party that is deeply split by the issue and is campaigning on a clear plan to renegotiate a brexit deal that would get as close as possible to his party's aims and would put that deal up against remain in a referendum. As party leader he would not take a position on the referendum which would allow his individual party members to form their own position.
But you already knew that and still went the lazy tabloid route
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostThis was pretty interesting
numbers have plummeted amongst Remainers, gone down with young people, gone down with Londoners and the Lib Dem overall are now close to falling into single figures in the national polls.
Despite all that, she is targeting labour instead of the Tories.
She is only a Tory dressed in yellow, voting record says as much
Degree in management, worked for a radio station, moved into politics at around 21... British parliament is full of them
She has apparently taken donations from frackers, voted against the ban on fracking and could lose her seat in the election
*Also, pretty sure Labour have said they will stay neutral during any referendum, so of course they will not be campaigning for/backing remainLast edited by Guest; 04-12-19, 12:10.
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Labour, and labour fans REALLY dont help themselves though
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostYeah exactly. I would have much preferred if he came out immediately in favour of a second referendum, but the choice he has made now is a legitimate tactic, and it's not like either of the two options are particularly appealing. Either supporting or going against brexit would have huge electoral downsides.
He's a typical Trotskyite bullshitter, whining emotively from the sidelines. Not willing or able to actually secure power. This election should be a penalty kick with no goalie. Instead, he's handing it to the UK Trump.
At least I get salami."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Murdrum View PostAssuming there are some decent Labour MP's who are very aware of how precarious the Tory position is under Johnson, what's the rationale for allowing Corbyn to continue to flounder?
Do the candidates exist but don't want to lead a party in the current climate or is there simply no adequate replacement?
Who exactly was Corbyn before that happened? No-one."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostDon't you think his immediate priority should be WINNING THE FUCKING ELECTION.
He's a typical Trotskyite bullshitter, whining emotively from the sidelines. Not willing or able to actually secure power. This election should be a penalty kick with no goalie. Instead, he's handing it to the UK Trump.
At least I get salami.
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostI don't think it is as self evident as you do that backing remain would win the election for him.
Surely you agree that against the biggest laughing stock of a government ever seen in the UK, that this election should be a cakewalk for any half-way competent Opposition?
This is Politics 101."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostI suppose you'd be a much bigger movie fan than me. Although Joker was outstanding,, the movie wasn't the reason I was there. Was there for that 1920s art deco vibe. Felt like being in Boardwalk Empire for an evening.
Have been listening to old timey music ever since
Cannot wait to go back. Meaning to find out if they ever run old classic movies for that full experience.
'It's a Wonderful Life' would be a lovely Xmas night out."you raise, i kill you" El Tren :{)
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Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by cardshark202 View PostCorrect me if I'm wrong but I think what Daragh was getting at there was that it's not necessarily Labour's lack of viability as much as their perceived lack of viability due to their and Corbyn's portryal across most mainstream media.Surely you agree that against the biggest laughing stock of a government ever seen in the UK, that this election should be a cakewalk for any half-way competent Opposition?
This is Politics 101.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI didn't say he should back remain. I said he should take a clear position.
Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSurely you agree that against the biggest laughing stock of a government ever seen in the UK, that this election should be a cakewalk for any half-way competent Opposition?
This is Politics 101.
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostWhich is?
It should be, but then the initial brexit vote should have been a walk in the park for the remain side. Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the Tans.
Take a long, hard look at Labour right now. They're a joke.
The post mortem after this election will be fun."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Hectorjelly View PostI don't think it is as self evident as you do that backing remain would win the election for him.
Another candidate and I think it does let them win but he is right to fence sit as I think every candidate would.
Boris can get only the definitely want to leave votes where as he is positioned to get the fence sitters and the definite remains.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThey've managed to block everything the Tories wanted to do on brexit for the last three years despite being in the minority. That's pretty much as effective as an opposition can be.
They prevented the Tories from pushing forward with Brexit while simultaneously failing to rally support in a situation where they should have been well positioned to make significant inroads.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostThey've managed to block everything the Tories wanted to do on brexit for the last three years despite being in the minority. That's pretty much as effective as an opposition can be."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostRIP Bob Willis
Best English bowler I've seen and the real hero of 'Botham's' ashes, always came across as a really sound lad too.
Botham has always bigged up Willis and Diley as much as himself for headingley but thats a big headline for the papers i suppose
Bob Willis, the former England cricket captain, has died aged 70. On the pitch Willis made 90 Test appearances for his country, taking 325 wickets in the pro...
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Continuing the cricket vibe; an article of how different schools of philosophy would approach the question of whether to walk when you know you've nicked it.
I learnt a lot."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostContinuing the cricket vibe; an article of how different schools of philosophy would approach the question of whether to walk when you know you've nicked it.
I learnt a lot.
I might have a quibble on whether personally Nietzsche would not have walked.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThat's a very good piece.
I might have a quibble on whether personally Nietzsche would not have walked.
Speaking of soccer, I see the den of thieves that is the FAI is imploding nicely."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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some troubling nuggets therePeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Don't worry DP
The BBC is all over it, sure Kuennsberg has a bunch of tweets this morning about... Anti semitism in the labour party
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postit's an election manifesto, it'll be toilet paper next weekend!People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostJesus
Fucking
Christ
I thought the this means more shite was cringe but fuck me
Worse still... the inhouse people make stuff like this and the club allow sponsors to make that shit
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