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Originally posted by Keane View PostBut Giuliani joked that he had good “insurance” in case Trump did turn on him, amid speculation Republicans will seek to frame him as a rogue actor.
In a telephone interview with the Guardian, in response to a question about whether he was nervous that Trump might “throw him under a bus” in the impeachment crisis, Giuliani said, with a slight laugh: “I’m not, but I do have very, very good insurance, so if he does, all my hospital bills will be paid.”
Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello, who was also on the call, then interjected: “He’s joking.”
I wonder what will happen if Trump decides to not throw him under bus, but the evidence is too compelling for Trumps impeachment.
What will give?This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostWhat are they saying?
Basically Trump will be impeached. Other dude said Sondland basically ran over the whole admin in the bus. Very bad for president.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostKen Starr saying this is a bombshell.
Basically Trump will be impeached. Other dude said Sondland basically ran over the whole admin in the bus. Very bad for president."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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I don't know if its my bias but I think even the counsels reflect the different parties outlooks and views. Caster is odious.
Kind of like dogs who look like their owners.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostBut thats the problem. When we start to think like that, then we start to accept that everything is okay. This is so clearly corruption of an astonishing level and it does matter. Even if no-one changes their mind.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostHe's still a 1/4 shot to see out his term and fairly short to be still there post 2025. All to do about nothing.
He'll be heavy fave until he's a massive dog. Support will turn quick and fast and it'll all be over.
If it happens.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postit's a case of putting the blocks together.
Did Trump withhold military assistance to a country under attack (by fucking Russia ffs) by making that aid conditional on publically opening an investigation into a political opponent?
All of this testimony is clearly directed at a 'Yes' answer.
So that's the legal case for impeachment.
The above is an impeachable offence. Trump should be impeached and removed from office.
Now you're into the political calculus that Republicans have to make. Do they think people are so entrenched in their political stances that they can take the risk of supporting the retention of a criminal in the White House?
You think yes...I think maybe. Let's find out. In any case, it is momentous.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostSupport will fall off a cliff. It won't be gradual.
He'll be heavy fave until he's a massive dog. Support will turn quick and fast and it'll all be over.
Market is heavily pointing towards the status quo remaining for some time.Profit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostThere's plenty of liquidity there at fancy prices rn for you to become rich based on that synopsis.
Market is heavily pointing towards the status quo remaining for some time.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostKen Starr saying this is a bombshell.
Basically Trump will be impeached. Other dude said Sondland basically ran over the whole admin in the bus. Very bad for president.
Seen as pure bullshit by everyone except there target audience who play along
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jesus, is that real?This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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This is hilarious. Wtf.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostAfter this is over can they not go after the GOP lads on the various panels for clearly trying to block with whataboutery, bluff and spin?
Dems job is to make the bribery case so overwhelming that everyone points and laughs at their efforts. Which is now happening."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by eamonhonda View PostPodcast festival, christ, we can't enjoy anything without overdoing it until the good is gone.
Originally posted by Keane View PostI've only read Blink and thought it was awful rubbish altogether. Is his other output worthwhile?
I just started Blink actually! Here I am being a wanker in the Tate Modern.
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Originally posted by 6starpool View PostUnless they find a recording of Trump saying something as blatant as "the people that vote for me are so dumb. I must ring Vladimir to find out what chaos he wants me to sow next" then republicans won't turn on him. The only ones that have stayed vocally opposed to him are ones that are retiring or else ones from generally dem leaning states, but these are few and far between. It is all about keeping your seat, and for most republicans, opposing Trump means you won't get voted in. Real politics doesn't matter anymore. He will be impeached probably, but almost zero chance of being removed from office unless something huge is uncovered, and probably not related to him withholding money from Ukraine until they investigate Hunter Biden.
Big question is if it can get enough dirt on him that it stops his re-election but not dump enough into the proceedings that he cannot get the rep nomination. Warren, bidden, Saunders and who ever else can’t beat a republican bar trump - all way to easy to dislike or in biddens case smear.
Interesting tightrope to walk.
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Originally posted by RichieM View Postnot going to be impeached for sure, I don’t know enough history to know how many times a democracy has without massive civil revolt or military coup since ceaser that an elected leader was ousted fully. Plenty pushed to resign early alright.
Big question is if it can get enough dirt on him that it stops his re-election but not dump enough into the proceedings that he cannot get the rep nomination. Warren, bidden, Saunders and who ever else can’t beat a republican bar trump - all way to easy to dislike or in biddens case smear.
Interesting tightrope to walk.
What dirt do you think matters to most of those that vote trump? Guns, abortion, God, anti foreigners are what matters to most of them (to varying degrees) and any democrat is worse than trump on all those to most trump voters so it doesn't matter.Last edited by 6starpool; 21-11-19, 09:12.
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Great to see royal family getting a good kicking. Hopefully Things continue to get way worse.
Pretty clear Epstein was an intelligence assett, not following it that closely because we will never know the half of it. Worst of it will dribble out as “conspiracy theories” for years then stuff will start being semi confirmed when big players start dying off
Prince Andrew would absolutely have sailed off into the sunset if that photo did not existLast edited by Guest; 21-11-19, 09:33.
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Originally posted by PSV58 View PostGreat to see royal family getting a good kicking. Hopefully Things continue to get way worse.
Pretty clear Epstein was an intelligence assett, not following it that closely because we will never know the half of it. Worst of it will dribble out as “conspiracy theories” for years then stuff will start being semi confirmed when big players start dying off
Prince Andrew would absolutely have sailed off into the sunset if that photo did not existGone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.
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Originally posted by Leo Varadkar View PostThose were tweets that were sent by a qualified solicitor, a woman in her 30s, a woman actively involved in Fianna Fáil at the time
I think just describing them as inappropriate isn’t enough, we should say what they were: misogynistic towards women, racist towards Travellers and classist, and also body shaming. I don’t think they are becoming of someone who is Fianna Fáil’s equality spokesperson.
I’m not sure what it says about Fianna Fail’s commitment to equality.
Empty words from Leo, Veronas quotes were far more racist, recent and made while actively involved in public life and yet FG seem of a mind to let her go forward as a candidate after all the posturing last week, Covent went campaigning with her after the story broke
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Originally posted by 6starpool View PostImpeached doesn't mean ousted. Bill Clinton was impeached, but the senate didn't vote to remove from office, same as it will probably turn out this time.
What dirt do you think matters to most of those that vote trump? Guns, abortion, God, anti foreigners are what matters to most of them (to varying degrees) and any democrat is worse than trump on all those to most trump voters so it doesn't matter."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Does anyone know how big is the problem in labour?
Any problem is too big, I don't doubt that it exists and they have handled it awfully (I'd struggle to vote for them if I still lived in UK)
I remember when it came out first looking into it and a lot of the stuff was coming from right wing or Zionist think tanks and seemed to come at times that suited certain parties
Again not saying its false (the far left in England have a history of being on the wrong side of the argument, Stalin, the unionists in the 50/60's) but found it very hard to take an interest when there was so much shit flying around
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It's a weird one, there is obviously some level of a problem that Labour are failing to deal with but it seems to me that a large part of that problem is that Israel has successfully managed to create as a fact the absolutely unreasonable lie that anti zionism and anti semitism are the same thing. That allows room for anti semites to find cover in the only mainstream party who are willing to take a stand against the continuing crimes of the Israeli state.
I'm 100% sure that is you could get an accurate blind taste test of Labour v Tory members and / or voters our going to find a lot more actual anti semites in blue.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostIt's a weird one, there is obviously some level of a problem that Labour are failing to deal with but it seems to me that a large part of that problem is that Israel has successfully managed to create as a fact the absolutely unreasonable lie that anti zionism and anti semitism are the same thing. That allows room for anti semites to find cover in the only mainstream party who are willing to take a stand against the continuing crimes of the Israeli state.
I'm 100% sure that is you could get an accurate blind taste test of Labour v Tory members and / or voters our going to find a lot more actual anti semites in blue."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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I doubt today's hearings will match yesterday for drama. Although we do get to hear a British accent in Fiona Hill, on the Hill. Hurrhurr."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostNot yet, they were clothes samples so not ready for sale, I must ask about it! Don't think they'll be dropping here either.
Thinking of going back to it again next week.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostWhat did you think the Olafur Eliasson Exhibition?
Thinking of going back to it again next week.
Here I am last year enjoying some of the fine work on offer.
The actual piece I was looking at pre prohoshop was "Reborn Sounds of Childhood Dreams" by Ibrahim El-Salahi which is one of my favourite things there.
I quite enjoyed the Derek Jarman exhibit at IMMA the other day, his art takes quite a decent in madness after he got aids, nice to see development of style over a lifetime. I work beside there but far too rarely go in! Even made a random chinese tourist art friend there, due to her taking a photo of me looking at one of his pieces and asking if was that ok. Um ok! So I was chatting away to her at a normal conversational level, wondering how much crazy Chinese beliefs lurked beneath this lovely exterior - wanting to ask about HK but she asked my thoughts on F.X. Buckley first. It is quite strange to talk in a museum like that as everybody else is completely silent, floating about like some ethereal ghosts around you.Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 21-11-19, 13:12.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostWhat did you think the Olafur Eliasson Exhibition?
Thinking of going back to it again next week.
off to the Antony Gormley Exhibition this weekend, really excited if i'm honest.
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