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Originally posted by Bubbleking View PostNot really - most people that come to hospital with back pain dont realise there is no operation we can do and no real satisfactory pain relief we can give you take home (we arent going to admit someone with back pain for strong IV pain meds and take up a bed). Some people find chiropractors relieve there symptoms so who would I be to begrudge them that
But I've a bit of an issue with chiropractors as a whole. Most of its claims are wildy unsubstantiated, and they've often made it worse. They seem to hang off the placebo effect and aim to bleed money from people over repeat visits. But I'm a cynic.
A good ortho/physio/physical therapist by all means
Finished college a couple of years ago so in terms of being qualified have been done awhile. In terms of professional development still only in the early stages of surgical training (like an apprenticeship) with a long slippery grease pole left to climb
So like an attending now? (Yes, only point of reference is US medical). Or whatever the irish equivalent is, specialist/registrar?
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostFully agree about there being no magic back pain tablet you can give them. And often the solution is a complicated surgery or possibly nothing at all.
But I've a bit of an issue with chiropractors as a whole. Most of its claims are wildy unsubstantiated, and they've often made it worse. They seem to hang off the placebo effect and aim to bleed money from people over repeat visits. But I'm a cynic.
A good ortho/physio/physical therapist by all means
The best I've found is Hellerwork similar to ROLFing. It's an alternative physiotherapy type thing. It's all about structural integration.
There are elements that are a bit airy fairy for use of a better term but ive found it relatively beneficial overall.
The sessions last 90 minutes and are more physically demanding than a physio plus they do a better job at highlighting flaws in my posture and mobility so possibly it's a combo of sheer volume of work on the muscles and more awareness on my part but I would recommend it as a change to the norm.
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Originally posted by brady23 View PostI am friendly with a few guys in chiropractic college over here and the more I hear about it the more sceptical I become. I've had some back issues for 2 years now and have become more open to trying something different to standard physio.
Long story short was that the consult was basically he tried to scam me by moving me into awkward positions and taking xrays. Then he pointing out all these issues the following week when I got my results. I remember thinking "my spine isn't crooked mate, you told me to lean that way".
Then he did a free adjustment, where he cracked my back and neck a few times. It was quite violent, certainly didn't help me in any way. But it could of seriously hurt a older person with osteoporosis for example.
The best I've found is Hellerwork similar to ROLFing. It's an alternative physiotherapy type thing. It's all about structural integration.
The Chinese version (gua shu?) with Qi and releasing toxins is bollox though, imo of course.
Where did you get that done?
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostPhew. Never taking any Diazapam again.if that's what being a junkie is like, I'm out.
Pain is dialled down from 10 to 5, thanks be to fuck. Couple more days of r&r.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostI've actually looking into both of them. I came across when reading about and following some of the more intense stretching protocols. One guy talked about the physical scraping helps to release residual tension (or something like that).
The Chinese version (gua shu?) with Qi and releasing toxins is bollox though, imo of course.
Where did you get that done?
I'm in Auckland so got it done there. There are elements almost similar to almost PNF stretching where the therapist gets you to push against them in order to move their arm.
For example stretching the hamstring, they would place their forearm at the back of your knee, you push against one another and force their forearm towards your glute.
There's a lot more use of the forearm, less about working into the muscle and more about attempting to lengthen the muscles. In hellerwork it's 11 sessions where the overall goal is a complete body adjustment but there is scope for changing that for problem areas etc. The guy I went to said ROLFing is a tad more forceful so if you're quite mobile as is, that's maybe something better to try.
That's the guy I went to, unsure of how informative the site is but I'd recommend going for a consultation, mine was 2 hours long and 140$ so 90e or so, pretty decent for any 2 hour physio
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostHow did he disable your alarm Paul?
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostPhew. Never taking any Diazapam again.if that's what being a junkie is like, I'm out.
Pain is dialled down from 10 to 5, thanks be to fuck. Couple more days of r&r.
Few years ago when my back was really bad my aunt used to give me hers, life saver!
About 2 years ago I spent 2-3 months or so going to a chiropractor, they gave us a discount due to being next door, still dropped about £450 altogether. Felt great, one day he cracked my back and my head cleared, like i'd been walking around with a headache for about 10 years
Just at the point where I was feeling a lot better he then mentioned exercise , scarred of losing a client
My last visit there I got a different guy,did more than the 3 minutes the regular guy did, i thought my hamstrings were gonna shread
Genuinely good people but, between that, the cost, the exercise line and the fact they put you on the hook I didn't go back
The xray they took found a piece of bone missing from my neck, freaked him out but he sent it off to some mate of his (no charge) and it's a thing
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Was briefly going to an osteopath last year, whatever about the good/bad of the treatment there is no bullshit with them!
Do these exercises & lose weight or you're wasting your time coming
Moved house so stopped, but living near her again so gonna get a bit fit and start going again
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Our very own Hamsterdam. Raoul could have been the first client
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Speaking of health services etc, my Son who is 14 decided to try out the Maltese health care system by having an accident in PE which required hospital attention.
I arrived at the massive Mater Dei hospital at 1.30pm and was seen by Triage within 8 minutes. He was then referred to Peads Emergency room rather than the normal one for adults which was really good. The doors were near each other and in the same waiting area.
He was called about 20 minutes later to see the Doctor. The ED was very modern inside.
He was examined, referred for an x-ray and given pain relief for what the Dr thought was fractured knuckles. We waited about 10 minutes for the xray and the only delay we had there was that the Dr wasn't happy with the result as it showed no fracture and was waiting to use a much larger screen so he could take a real good look. He was apologetic about the delay but I was delighted they took this route to make sure.
It turned out he has soft tissue damage and we were on our way home on the bus and back in the house between 4.30-5.00pm which was pretty damn great.
The best part was the cost. Zilch!
So I am well impressed with the Health care here for sure
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostPhew. Never taking any Diazapam again.if that's what being a junkie is like, I'm out.
Pain is dialled down from 10 to 5, thanks be to fuck. Couple more days of r&r.
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Medical science's problems with chiropracty doesn't seem to be that the treatments are ineffective. More that the risk/reward ratio is too high, especially when the relief of symptoms is largely temporary. A lot of what they do has small benefits, but the few times they go wrong, they go very wrong. My mum's cousin had a rib broken by chiropractic manipulation. She's in her 80s so it took nearly a year to heal completely.
A real medical industry would dial back the usage of specific treatments that were found to be too risky. But it seems chiropractic associations behave by their own rules. That's why they're getting labelled as pseudoscience these days. They're not healing crystals and reiki, in that they are typically effective beyond the placebo effect, but they definitely cross that line into "alternative medicine"."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by shrapnel View Posthad it for a week there not long ago for a torticolis in my neck. Weak ass shit tbh.
"I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostMedical science's problems with chiropracty doesn't seem to be that the treatments are ineffective. More that the risk/reward ratio is too high, especially when the relief of symptoms is largely temporary. A lot of what they do has small benefits, but the few times they go wrong, they go very wrong. My mum's cousin had a rib broken by chiropractic manipulation. She's in her 80s so it took nearly a year to heal completely.
A real medical industry would dial back the usage of specific treatments that were found to be too risky. But it seems chiropractic associations behave by their own rules. That's why they're getting labelled as pseudoscience these days. They're not healing crystals and reiki, in that they are typically effective beyond the placebo effect, but they definitely cross that line into "alternative medicine".
Sometimes the act of cracking and popping seems to release pressure and gives a momentary relief from the pain. The belief that these joints and bones arent sitting right is very easy to accept. The fact is I'm pretty riddled with sports injuries accrued in my ninja youth that I never properly cared for. Double menescous tears( or worse) in the knees (twisted box splits with grown men standing on hips to deepen stretch. Knees turned inwards to cheat), dislocated both shoulders (and broke left one drunk).
The allure of something like the below is profoundly attractive, even if it is temporary
Felt great, one day he cracked my back and my head cleared, like i'd been walking around with a headache for about 10 year
I've found https://ddpyoga.com/ a great help ( when I can be arsed doing it)People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostWas briefly going to an osteopath last year, whatever about the good/bad of the treatment there is no bullshit with them!
Do these exercises & lose weight or you're wasting your time coming
Moved house so stopped, but living near her again so gonna get a bit fit and start going again
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostWas briefly going to an osteopath last year, whatever about the good/bad of the treatment there is no bullshit with them!
Do these exercises & lose weight or you're wasting your time coming
Moved house so stopped, but living near her again so gonna get a bit fit and start going again
I don't need to lose weight thank fuck but core strength and flexibility are the big things"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostA girl I know is training to be a massage therapist and she was saying that we should all be getting regular massages, that's there's some mechanical benefits to it. Also could do with visits to an osteopath. She's a bit of a hippie though so I'm slightly sceptical. Any truth in it?People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostThis is my fourth day in bed, might try and get to the couch today. Nothing like being sick when you have a bad back and a broken mattress.
Does anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone.
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostA girl I know is training to be a massage therapist and she was saying that we should all be getting regular massages, that's there's some mechanical benefits to it. Also could do with visits to an osteopath. She's a bit of a hippie though so I'm slightly sceptical. Any truth in it?
I got a massage recently, felt like death for about 2 weeks after, he spotted a lot wrong with my back, gonna make it a regular thing once weather picks up and i start exercising properly.
Fado Fado when I lived in Dublin i played football a lad who got one once a month, absolutely swore by it.
Never complained about strains etc unlike everyone else in the group
Osteopath would be no harm, will show you how your out of line (we all are) and how to fix it, 3-5 visits max is how they generally work
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostRang estate agents and new mattress is being delivered in 5 minutes now, bless renting sometimes. Still have to drop lots of money on one sometime like the one on here recently, definitely worth it.
Does anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone.
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostDoes anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Anybody any mattress topper recommendations? Memory foam yoke
Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI came home from Australia with an Aussie accent and lots of strange sayings
Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostI'm terrible for this. Always talk to people the way they talk to me. Have no idea I'm doing it. Should have heard me after 5 years living in Yorkshire. Can still do great impressions oft' locals.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostAnybody any mattress topper recommendations? Memory foam yoke
And a penchant for weird sport.
Must here this. I had to go google why people do this due to Hotspur selfishly not being around.
the one I always hated was being called 'mate' everywhere. It always felt both false and somewhat aggressive. Even ladies trying to flirt in bars would do it."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post'no worries' is the one that has stayed with me, I really like that one
the one I always hated was being called 'mate' everywhere. It always felt both false and somewhat aggressive. Even ladies trying to flirt in bars would do it.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostMust here this. I had to go google why people do this due to Hotspur selfishly not being around."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostDoes anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostI like the sound of that, might give one a spin. Think physio was pushing me too hard - he is physio to Irish Olympic team so probably used to actual sports people.
I don't need to lose weight thank fuck but core strength and flexibility are the big things
Have had long term back problems myself that I was just going do wn the pain mgt route of fistfulls of difene and diazapan when it flared up.
Physio has assesed that my gluts basically have not been working for about 15 years so have been working on getting them firing again.
Seems to be working well but they are as weak as fuck so a few minutes of exercise is all they can take. Now when I run after 15 to 20 mins they start to crap up - somehow I was walking and running without using them for years.
She is in Physio 64 on merrion square and I would highly recommend if anyone is looking for refferal.
Getting close to touching my toes now - a month ago I was just about able to reach the bottom of my knee cap.
Worst part of it is that as my gluts fire other muscles are getting pulled out of position or more accurately into the correct position which is uncomfortable and also the muscles that have been over working for a long time are getting some rest and releasing which is also a weird feeling - the absence of pain and cramp in my hamstrings, quads and back is oddly sore
Totally agree on chiropractors being quacks tho, physios will do adjustments if its warranted and are actually trained to do so but generally dont as that is not usually the actual cause.
My dad had back problems and went to a chiropractor a few times followed up by surgery to fuse disks fucked by said chiropractor.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostDoes anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone.Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostI'm terrible for this. Always talk to people the way they talk to me. Have no idea I'm doing it. Should have heard me after 5 years living in Yorkshire. Can still do great impressions oft' locals.
I was in South Carolina for work before Christmas and two of my colleagues(married couple) moved over there 15+ years ago. They haven't got even an iota of the local drawl, both still have thick Mullingar and Ennis accents. Strange one that. I'd probably be inclined to pick up a bit of an accent and lingo pretty quickly.
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostMedical science's problems with chiropracty doesn't seem to be that the treatments are ineffective. More that the risk/reward ratio is too high, especially when the relief of symptoms is largely temporary. A lot of what they do has small benefits, but the few times they go wrong, they go very wrong. My mum's cousin had a rib broken by chiropractic manipulation. She's in her 80s so it took nearly a year to heal completely.
A real medical industry would dial back the usage of specific treatments that were found to be too risky. But it seems chiropractic associations behave by their own rules. That's why they're getting labelled as pseudoscience these days. They're not healing crystals and reiki, in that they are typically effective beyond the placebo effect, but they definitely cross that line into "alternative medicine".
Like the idea that spinal misalignment is the cause of most diseases.
Originally posted by wikiIn chiropractic, vertebral subluxation is a supposed misalignment of the spinal column leading to a set of signs and symptoms sometimes termed vertebral subluxation complex. It has no biomedical basis and is categorized as pseudoscientific by leading authorities. Traditionally, the "specific focus of chiropractic practice" is the chiropractic subluxation[1] and historical chiropractic practice assumes that a vertebral subluxation or spinal joint dysfunction interferes with the body's function and its innate intelligence,[2] as promulgated by D. D. Palmer, the inventor of chiropractic.
Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post'no worries' is the one that has stayed with me, I really like that one
the one I always hated was being called 'mate' everywhere. It always felt both false and somewhat aggressive. Even ladies trying to flirt in bars would do it.
If an Aussie is actually your mate, he'll probably call you a cunt instead.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post'no worries' is the one that has stayed with me, I really like that one
the one I always hated was being called 'mate' everywhere. It always felt both false and somewhat aggressive. Even ladies trying to flirt in bars would do it.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostRang estate agents and new mattress is being delivered in 5 minutes now, bless renting sometimes. Still have to drop lots of money on one sometime like the one on here recently, definitely worth it.
Does anybody else mimic who they are talking to, I sometimes do it with accents. Not sure how that would come across! It's just funny because I am very conscious of it. Was copying the delivery guy on the phone.
Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostAnybody any mattress topper recommendations? Memory foam yoke
And a penchant for weird sport.
Must here this. I had to go google why people do this due to Hotspur selfishly not being around.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostOhh id say so ya...
I got a massage recently, felt like death for about 2 weeks after, he spotted a lot wrong with my back, gonna make it a regular thing once weather picks up and i start exercising properly.
Fado Fado when I lived in Dublin i played football a lad who got one once a month, absolutely swore by it.
Never complained about strains etc unlike everyone else in the group
Osteopath would be no harm, will show you how your out of line (we all are) and how to fix it, 3-5 visits max is how they generally work
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Originally posted by ionapaul View PostMy aunt (Irish, from Westmeath) and uncle (Danish) live just outside Copenhagen - you should hear the awesome accents my two Danish cousins have when they speak English! A real midlands twang, it's just cool.
EDIT: Where's Hitch now when you need his input on kids with combo accents?
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Originally posted by coillcam View PostI started seeing a Brazilian girl recently and its funny as she's getting all of the Irishisms like not pronouncing "th" at the start of the words after being here for 3 months. There's a little bit of an Irish accent in there too. This is despite learning English with an American accent.
I was in South Carolina for work before Christmas and two of my colleagues(married couple) moved over there 15+ years ago. They haven't got even an iota of the local drawl, both still have thick Mullingar and Ennis accents. Strange one that. I'd probably be inclined to pick up a bit of an accent and lingo pretty quickly.
How can a school teach phonetics etc and then teach the TH sound as T and not the way it is supposed to?
Originally posted by coillcam View PostThat's gas. Here's a mix for you: A friend of my ex's family is a Westmeath woman and she's married to a Swedish banker. They live in Luxembourg and have a couple of kids. They predominately sound American but have a few Irishisms and speak 4 languages. The younger son is a football prodigy and soon signing into Bayern Munich's academy at the age of 15. I think the mother is moving over with him to help him settle into school etc. Should probably get more info and send the FAI over cap in hand.
EDIT: Where's Hitch now when you need his input on kids with combo accents?
God help the little one now adding Maltese and all the different counties accents in her class into that mix!Last edited by MrsFlushdraw; 07-02-17, 14:11.
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View PostI can see how people believe in it. My wrists and ankles pop all the time but cause no pain and my knees and shoulders crack and pop and at times have me thoroughly miserable with pain.
Sometimes the act of cracking and popping seems to release pressure and gives a momentary relief from the pain. The belief that these joints and bones arent sitting right is very easy to accept. The fact is I'm pretty riddled with sports injuries accrued in my ninja youth that I never properly cared for. Double menescous tears( or worse) in the knees (twisted box splits with grown men standing on hips to deepen stretch. Knees turned inwards to cheat), dislocated both shoulders (and broke left one drunk).
The allure of something like the below is profoundly attractive, even if it is temporary
I think if I suddenly had zero pain in my body, I'd probably pass out
I've found https://ddpyoga.com/ a great help ( when I can be arsed doing it)
A build up of gas, in the knuckles anyway. Saw this vid a while ago and was surprised to learn that....
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Originally posted by Lazare View PostA build up of gas, in the knuckles anyway. Saw this vid a while ago and was surprised to learn that....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3IYmdy6d4YPeople say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostYeah I figured that since my posture he so bad it'd be worth a visit. Anyone have any recommendations for an osteopath in the city centre?People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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Originally posted by Lord Sir Christmas View PostThat was quick, where from?
It's like he just took the training wheels off overnight and just pushed us off wobbling into the middle distance insisting we'll be 'just fine!'
Bit of a course and he thinks we can look after ourselves, I've had to whip out the audio to hear his soothing voice on the wind.
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well worth a read, if you need some perspective you libtard snowflakes
"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostProfit before people.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostSurely you didn't enjoy that?X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Denny Crane View PostA girl I know is training to be a massage therapist and she was saying that we should all be getting regular massages, that's there's some mechanical benefits to it. Also could do with visits to an osteopath. She's a bit of a hippie though so I'm slightly sceptical. Any truth in it?
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostHad a few lamb chops, sweet potato mash and marrowfats. You?X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
Hello there male. Could you possibly modify this routine for a bigger woman? I find it almost impossible to follow this routine as some of the positions are difficult to get into. This routine is also much too tiresome, perhaps shorten it? If you don't comply, i'll have no choice but to assume that this video is sexist and made specifically for thin males. Check your thin privilege and remove these sexist limitations from your video if you want a female audience. Berta Lovejoy, Feminist, Promoter Of Equality, Love, and Peace.
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SPOILERfuck off fatty. You fucking do it this way or lose the god damn weight. It's Not sexist you stupid fat whale. YOU chose to be fat. A THIN or NORMAL woman could also do this. Take your fat acceptance and feminist bullshit and shove it up your greasy, un-loved, vagina (if you can find it under the fat rolls and have time between 2nd and 3rd breakfast).
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