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Originally posted by Mellor View PostIf he's impeached he doesn't necessarily lose the job. Clinton was impeached, so was Andrew Johnson. Both remained president.
I'm not even sure the golden shower debacle is impeachable. As it's not actually illegal is it?
8+ years of communication between him and Kremlin, and 5+ year relationship of cultivating/supporting/assisting Trump by Russia.
Inter alia, Source E, acknowledged that the Russian regime had been behind the recent leaks of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee(DNC), to the Wikileaks platform. The reason for using WikiLeaks was "plausible deniability" and the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team. In return the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterize the subject.
They offered him real estate deals to further ensnare him, but he declined.
Russia has dirt on Trump watching Russian prostitutes give golden showers.
Detailed claims of bilateral intelligence sharing back and forth between Trump and Putin. Trump had DNC moles and used US as well as foreign hackers. Trump got info on his opponents, Putin got info on Russian oligarchs + families living in US.
Russia's main goal appears to be driving wedges to cause divisions in the West. They aided Jill Stein, Carter Page and Michael Flynn (the latter two being members of Trump's team) in doing so.
Main goal of DNC emails appeared to be swinging Sanders voters to Trump.
Trump lawyer Cohen had clandestine meeting with Kremlin operatives in August, held in Prague to try to make it seem less suspicious.
Ukrainian President that Putin installed confided to Putin he DID provide ex-campaign manager Manafort w/ kickbacks that were previously reported. Left no paper trail.
Russia pissed this has gotten so much media coverage. They hoped to push for improved Russian-US relationships regardless of who was elected. Ancillary goal with Clinton was to drive her positions further from Obama's in event she won - they're happy both candidates were pro-TPP because they viewed that as bad for them.
Trump engaged in "large bribes and kickbacks" in China and other countries, "which were they to become public, would be potentially very damaging to their campaign"
Trump has bribed Russian business interests but worked diligently to obfuscate and eliminate paper trail. Also engaged in Russian sex parties but has likewise bribed or coerced witnesses to be silent. They do believe a particular Russian businessman was intricately linked to Trump would know details.
Manafort/Page/Cohen all highly compromised. They/Trump were apparently offered up to 19% stake in a Russian oil company Rosneft by its president if they could successfully get Western Russian sanctions lifted. Page expressed interest in this deal, saying sanctions would be lifted.
Once the sh*t started to hit the fan, Cohen was heavily involved in trying to cover up the relationship between Carter/Manafort/himself and Russia.
Overall goal of electing Trump was to destabilize Western and world order in Russia's favor since he was anti-establishment and so divisive.
FBI chief given dossier by John McCain alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts
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Originally posted by Opr View PostWhile the sex shit is embarrassing, it is the rest of the report that would be far more troublesome if it was to become verified.
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The funny thing is if Hillary won then nothing would have been said about play for play, Soros and Saudi backing, or misappropriated funds through the Clinton foundation.
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Originally posted by gorrrr72 View PostYes, that' true, obviously if Russia were actually pulling his strings (financially or otherwise) it wouldn't be good.
The funny thing is if Hillary won then nothing would have been said about play for play, Soros and Saudi backing, or misappropriated funds through the Clinton foundation.
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Pass the dutchie p&fX can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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It's either nonsense or it shows the integrity of the man that he won't be blackmailed.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostI tell you what that guy John Mc Cain ..REALLY loves his country.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ussia-contactsX can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Lord Sir Christmas View PostPass the dutchie p&f
I hear...
You could feel the chill as I seen and heard them say....
How does it feel when you got no food?
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostHillary was literally the perfect candidate."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostWhen you know who you are you don't care what people say.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostSoros is a decent person and a philanthropist. There hasn't been misappropriated funds. Stop talking rubbish.
Misappropriated funds: Tell that to the Haitians.
Don't be so naive.
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Originally posted by gorrrr72 View PostSoros: tell that to the Jews in WW2, oh you can't they were all executed. He floods countries with paid political activists to further his global agenda. He was responsible for breaking the bank of England and collapsing the Malaysian financial market causing untold misery to that country's people. He was instrumental in the last crash in 2008 and made billions from moving money around and causing havoc in the markets. Just because he throws a few scholarships to some poor African kids doesn't make him a saint.
Misappropriated funds: Tell that to the Haitians.
Don't be so naive.
After the war he moved to England and basically started with nothing. Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter. He wrote to every Bank in the UK to get an entry level job. And earned a degree while working in Bachelor of Science in philosophy and a Master of Science in philosophy.
He made money. That's what speculators do. At least his is real.
He made shrewd political and charitable donations all in my opinion for the greater good.
He seems to be a man who at one point decided he had made enough money.
“My success in the financial markets has given me a greater degree of independence than most other people,” Soros once wrote. “This allows me to take a stand on controversial issues: In fact, it obliges me to do so because others cannot.”
So that is my opinion on him for what it's worth. I like Soros.
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Just saying, dont give a fek about Brexit and Trump. Maybe its because I aint got no major money invested or commitments which cause concern. I watched a program today where a guy actually gladly said he was profiting £30,000 a year from grants but he was using that to pay off his debts! Thats a yearly wage for a band 6 nurse! I do hope the poor can rise up, I have been homeless and begged for food/accomodation and seen the rich abuse system and ppl about them. I have worked my way into a life where I can if I am careful I can be happy with but I do contribute/assist others who are struggling not because I can but because they need. There are others who assist but only when they have an audience of family/friends/local paper and when the spotlight is gone they leave the day to day support to myself and others who actually spend time cooking/tidying/listening to people.
Had a bad day today where an old woman's tv would not work. I always bring her a meal each day and checked tv for her and couldn't get it working as tv said no signal. I said it was likely arial/signal off in area and would check back in later. A vulture of a home help who 'borrows' money off the old woman telling sob stories got it working! Was told she just turned it on and it worked and got praised and likely paid as I collected dishes from meal brought earlier.
Just in need of a rant
sorry
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Originally posted by TheDrunkenOne View PostJust saying, dont give a fek about Brexit and Trump. Maybe its because I aint got no major money invested or commitments which cause concern. I watched a program today where a guy actually gladly said he was profiting £30,000 a year from grants but he was using that to pay off his debts! Thats a yearly wage for a band 6 nurse! I do hope the poor can rise up, I have been homeless and begged for food/accomodation and seen the rich abuse system and ppl about them. I have worked my way into a life where I can if I am careful I can be happy with but I do contribute/assist others who are struggling not because I can but because they need. There are others who assist but only when they have an audience of family/friends/local paper and when the spotlight is gone they leave the day to day support to myself and others who actually spend time cooking/tidying/listening to people.
Had a bad day today where an old woman's tv would not work. I always bring her a meal each day and checked tv for her and couldn't get it working as tv said no signal. I said it was likely arial/signal off in area and would check back in later. A vulture of a home help who 'borrows' money off the old woman telling sob stories got it working! Was told she just turned it on and it worked and got praised and likely paid as I collected dishes from meal brought earlier.
Just in need of a rant
sorry
We all need a rant sometimes. If it helps lift you. Here
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@ The Drunken one ...thanks for spreading the superhero vibes in the world. Much appreciated. That older lady is much better off for your efforts.
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Here Sat...one of the proudest days of my life. Seeing my Dad graduate with his PHD. The nerd gene is strong!
The golden child...my cute little bro...who went on to join him in the PHD pool.
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostBut this culture made him. Our culture made him. He is us. We are him. He is a dark mirror of our culture.
Prehaps I'm on the wrong forum.
Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostHe stated on TV that he assaulted women.
Originally posted by Opr View PostIt is the rest of the stuff in the report that would lead to impeachment. Here is a brief run down from reddit on what it contains.
I meant specifically the pee-pee video.
Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostWas he? I don't know
The people voted. If they were swayed by the media, hearsay and propaganda, that's their problem. Doesn't make it undemocratic.
Unless you are suggesting that the vote count was tapered with?
Originally posted by PeaceandFirehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Russia
It's not more illegal than going to a strip club really. A bit weirder though.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostWhat culture would this be?
Prehaps I'm on the wrong forum.
Said on TV and private recording played on TV aren't the same imo.
Oh of course, the collusion stuff is not good for him if true.
I meant specifically the pee-pee video.
Which part don't you know about?
The people voted. If they were swayed by the media, hearsay and propaganda, that's their problem. Doesn't make it undemocratic.
Unless you are suggesting that the vote count was tapered with?
Watching somebody peeing on a bed isn't prostitution.
It's not more illegal than going to a strip club really. A bit weirder though.
U.S. president-elect Donald Trump accepts the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia tried to interfere in the American presidential election, his incoming White House Chief of staff said Sunday.
Democracy is a balance. It's tipping the wrong way in the US. If it was democratic it was less democratic than other elections in their history.
I wouldn't like a president to go to a strip club either. It's prostitution. And why waste time defending an indefensible character?Last edited by Guest; 11-01-17, 03:51.
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It's always less democratic when your side loses.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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It's just scarier to me to accept that majority at least int he states maybe even here to some degree secretly thinks like Trump and the alt right does. But it seems to be the truth. Shrug.
Him being elected democratically is practically proof of what every far leftie has been saying about society for years. It's sexist and racist.
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostSoros is a Jew his family changed their name from Schwartz to Soros, as protective camouflage in increasingly anti-Semitic Hungary.
Soros was born in Budapest in the Kingdom of Hungary to a well-to-do non-observant Jewish family, who, like many upper-middle class Hungarian Jews at the time, were uncomfortable with their roots. Soros has described his home as anti-Semitic
Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostI wouldn't like a president to go to a strip club either. It's prostitution. And why waste time defending an indefensible character?
Stripping isn't prostitution. You surely understand the difference.
I'm not defending Trump, I don't particular care either way. The POTUS is not a big issue for me personally in 2017.
However, and maybe this makes me old fashioned, I do still have a soft spot for facts. It seems both sides were quick to toss that aside.Last edited by Mellor; 11-01-17, 05:03.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostI notice you copied that verbatim from Wikipedia. I also notice you left out the start that said
I trust Soros' own description over some random wiki-nerd guess at his motives.
He wasn't president at the time.
Stripping isn't prostitution. You surely understand the difference.
I'm not defending Trump, I don't particular care either way. The POTUS is not a big issue for me personally in 2017.
However, and maybe this makes me old fashioned, I do still have a soft spot for facts. It seems both sides were quick to toss that aside.Last edited by Guest; 11-01-17, 04:47.
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Anyway Trump is not what I intend to be focusing on in 2017. Too much of a dark shady subject. And clearly I am out of my intellectual depth arguing with mellor.
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I'm thanking posts "defending" trump while hating the cunt bastard cunt bastard in ways i would usually keep for the likes of Bertie Ahern, Shamrock Rovers & Nike/Google
Says something about the posts attacking him tbh!
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I have just added the term "cunt bastard cunt bastard" to the human vocabulary
I hope it takes off as well as some of my other ones!
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People keep saying Trump speaks like ordinary people. That's why he appealed.
It's true. Ordinary men grab women's crotches. Ordinary people are racist. He is a mirror of societies issues.
Hillary was a mirror of it's strengths.
Just because these things are common does not mean they are morally acceptable.
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Originally posted by PeaceandFire View PostI prefer if people admit they are alt right rather than oh i don't care personally. 'I just practice casual racism, vilify soros , think Hillary was almost as bad as trump and think nothing of visiting strip clubs.'
I'd love to know where I was casually racist. But I can't be too offended considering that you labelled 60million with that brush earlier.
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Originally posted by Mellor View PostI'm sorry, but you have no clue what my political outlook is. Alt-right, sure, if you say so.
I'd love to know where I was casually racist. But I can't be too offended considering that you labelled 60million with that brush earlier.
We all have our own internal biases
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My favourite thing about this Yankee cluster fuck they call politics is the amount of people outside usa with no connection to the place supporting either candidate like their fav sports team.
Trump got over the line cause he connected with the change loving uneducated, secret mini racists, dey tuk our jurb inbreds and countless clueless window lickers in Murica. This was enough to scoop via the system he called rigged but not enough to win the popular vote. What a country.
Hillary is a weak older female who can't work a laptop. She thinks it's all smile and say great job insert positive message here. She's a clown.
The yanks have already fucked the middle east and now Europe up for the foreseeable, it's time to just sit back and watch them crash and burn now.
Enjoy.
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Originally posted by Elshambles View PostI have just added the term "cunt bastard cunt bastard" to the human vocabulary
I hope it takes off as well as some of my other ones!
I could help you with promoting it. I recommend using an acronym for it at times. In that vein, I feel cbbc is more effective you cunt bastard-bastard cunt.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by CHDog View PostMy favourite thing about this Yankee cluster fuck they call politics is the amount of people outside usa with no connection to the place supporting either candidate like their fav sports team.
Trump got over the line cause he connected with the change loving uneducated, secret mini racists, dey tuk our jurb inbreds and countless clueless window lickers in Murica. This was enough to scoop via the system he called rigged but not enough to win the popular vote. What a country.
Hillary is a weak older female who can't work a laptop. She thinks it's all smile and say great job insert positive message here. She's a clown.
The yanks have already fucked the middle east and now Europe up for the foreseeable, it's time to just sit back and watch them crash and burn now.
Enjoy.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Keane View PostIPB death spiral
Conflicted between 'please, please let it be true' and recognition that the US is by far the biggest influence on our country. We need Trump to succeed (or at least not fuck up too badly)."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostContent, dude. Traffic.
Conflicted between 'please, please let it be true' and recognition that the US is by far the biggest influence on our country. We need Trump to succeed (or at least not fuck up too badly).
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Originally posted by NewApproach View PostThat or 'OK, the jokes over now, time to move along Mr Trump' and have him replaced within a month."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by CHDog View PostMy favourite thing about this Yankee cluster fuck they call politics is the amount of people outside usa with no connection to the place supporting either candidate like their fav sports team.
Trump got over the line cause he connected with the change loving uneducated, secret mini racists, dey tuk our jurb inbreds and countless clueless window lickers in Murica. This was enough to scoop via the system he called rigged but not enough to win the popular vote. What a country.
Hillary is a weak older female who can't work a laptop. She thinks it's all smile and say great job insert positive message here. She's a clown.
The yanks have already fucked the middle east and now Europe up for the foreseeable, it's time to just sit back and watch them crash and burn now.
Enjoy.
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Originally posted by CHDog View PostMy favourite thing about this Yankee cluster fuck they call politics is the amount of people outside usa with no connection to the place supporting either candidate like their fav sports team.
Trump got over the line cause he connected with the TG loving uneducated, secret mini racists, dey tuk our jurb inbreds and countless clueless window lickers in Murica. This was enough to scoop via the system he called rigged but not enough to win the popular vote. What a country.
Hillary is a weak older female who can't work a laptop. She thinks it's all smile and say great job insert positive message here. She's a clown.
The yanks have already fucked the middle east and now Europe up for the foreseeable, it's time to just sit back and watch them crash and burn now.
Enjoy.
He didn't win the popular vote because there was no point in campaigning in the major population centers, California, New York, Texas.
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