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[MrsFlushdraw]

@ Zuut, do you give your kids any treats at all? Not getting at you if you don't. Just wondering as I Have seen more obesity stemming from denying the odd treat to giving them now and then.

Once they become old enough to buy them self they go for the forbidden fruit. No matter what you drum into them as kids. School and other people change their views.

I try to restrict the amount of rubbish the kids eat. The older 2 have now finished their easter treats but the youngest still has loads left. I keep a stocked fruit bowl as I love fruit with a passion. I nag them when they say they are starving to get something from the bowl but met with resistance often.

[bohsman]

But generally speaking people weren't obese in those days that bread and other carbs were the primary source of food....

I blame immigrants

That's exactly what the article states though, pre 1980 people were eating eggs, meat etc but were told to replace them with carbs and obesity went through the roof.

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[Tar.Aldarion]

HAve a friend actually who has no concept of what's carbs/protein, every so often he'll ask me something like...what's in meat again?

Can hand people a packet of food and they have no idea what calories are in it from reading it, or what a lot of the ingredients mean.

It's all High Fructose Corn Syrup now. Real sugar is too expensive to be wasting on the likes of you!

Ugh the taste of that stuff, rank.

Well that too. Its a very affordable flavouring. Don't think I've ever put sugar in a pasta sauce when making it from scratch, but seemingly a jar of Dolmios has a Mars bar worth of sugar in it.

Never buy those after reading the ingredients, pasta sauce or pizza sauce is so easy to make and a couple hundred cals less.

The issue being that a high veg / unprocessed food diet is quite unaffordable for a lot of families. High carb / processed-with-sugar diet is much more affordable especially if you also factor in the relatively less time it takes to prepare processed food (not for everyone obv, but in general).

That's just true in the US, eating healthily here is really cheap, more effort cooking yeah.

Its sugar that is the carb culprit, seemingly. UK has actually seen a fall in average calories eaten per person over the last few decades, but a big rise in sugar, and obesity has gone through the roof. Hence their recent sugar tax, soon to be replicated in Ireland by the vibes of it.

Would be really surprised if they are eating less calories!
Nothing wrong with a high carb diet at all, it's just what you are eating.

[Guest]

My diet is not great. Whhen I was 17 i managed clean eating with no slips or cheats for 9 nine weeks. I am kind of small so no need for weight loss. I did feel good though. Right now its not good though.

[Guest]

I do like salads and veg and stuff. But I like white bread. And too much bad stuff. I don't like big portions though.

We all pay way too much attention to what others eat and not enough to what we eat though ourselves.

We are all crazy deranged dieticians it's funny.

[Guest]

@ Zuut, do you give your kids any treats at all? Not getting at you if you don't. Just wondering as I Have seen more obesity stemming from denying the odd treat to giving them now and then.

Once they become old enough to buy them self they go for the forbidden fruit. No matter what you drum into them as kids. School and other people change their views.

I try to restrict the amount of rubbish the kids eat. The older 2 have now finished their easter treats but the youngest still has loads left. I keep a stocked fruit bowl as I love fruit with a passion. I nag them when they say they are starving to get something from the bowl but met with resistance often.

Oh yea they still get chocolate, but they know it's poison!

[Guest]

I love diets though. I love reading about them as much as the next person.

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[RichieM]

Actually meant to ask this before Tar - the misses is putting a big push into us eating vegie at least once a week. A lot of what seems to becoming out is tasteless mush so what are your top 3 recipies - both of us are pretty decent around the kitchen in general but I dont eat nuts and she doesn't eat mushrooms which cuts out a lot of options.

[Denny Crane]

Where's the best spot in town for picking up one of those Ryanair sized cabin bags?

[RichieM]

Food and exercise are probably not to blame for the weight gain as we know from Ballerina's and gymnasts smoking is the key to weight loss.

Banning smoking in public areas means that there is not a constant cloud of smoke for everyone to get a nice second hand hit off. Look at the trends - everyone was super thin in the 80's and then as smoking got a worse rep people started to get fatter finally culminating in outright bans in public places and the current obesity epidemic.

Might see if I can get Ted Cruz to endorse this message.

[Guest]

Food and exercise are probably not to blame for the weight gain as we know from Ballerina's and gymnasts smoking is the key to weight loss.

Banning smoking in public areas means that there is not a constant cloud of smoke for everyone to get a nice second hand hit off. Look at the trends - everyone was super thin in the 80's and then as smoking got a worse rep people started to get fatter finally culminating in outright bans in public places and the current obesity epidemic.

Might see if I can get Ted Cruz to endorse this message.

Don't smoke we want you to stick around!

[MrsFlushdraw]

Actually meant to ask this before Tar - the misses is putting a big push into us eating vegie at least once a week. A lot of what seems to becoming out is tasteless mush so what are your top 3 recipies - both of us are pretty decent around the kitchen in general but I dont eat nuts and she doesn't eat mushrooms which cuts out a lot of options.

The risotto is a nice dish. The one I had contained chick peas, sweet corn, onion and peppers. Was really lovely.

You could even roast a pepper and serve the risotto in it

[V for Vendetta]

Where's the best spot in town for picking up one of those Ryanair sized cabin bags?

Arnotts. Push the boat out and hit BT if you want something in crocodile...

[MrsFlushdraw]

Where's the best spot in town for picking up one of those Ryanair sized cabin bags?

Do you fly a lot? We picked up the maximum capacity hand luggage bags. Can hold a weeks worth. Range between £10-20

They are brilliant. I also bought a small hand luggage case and it holds shit

[Emmet]

Food and exercise are probably not to blame for the weight gain as we know from Ballerina's and gymnasts smoking is the key to weight loss.

Banning smoking in public areas means that there is not a constant cloud of smoke for everyone to get a nice second hand hit off. Look at the trends - everyone was super thin in the 80's and then as smoking got a worse rep people started to get fatter finally culminating in outright bans in public places and the current obesity epidemic.

Might see if I can get Ted Cruz to endorse this message.

I reckon Cocaine does a better job!

[Guest]

Actually meant to ask this before Tar - the misses is putting a big push into us eating vegie at least once a week. A lot of what seems to becoming out is tasteless mush so what are your top 3 recipies - both of us are pretty decent around the kitchen in general but I dont eat nuts and she doesn't eat mushrooms which cuts out a lot of options.

Chickpea pulses beans lentils quinoa. I eat chickpeas I haven't had quinoa in ages though it takes a long time to cook. Veggie stir fry is my fav for when I actually feel like cooking. You can do nice salads in summer. Or veg soups.

[Dice75]

My food intake is atrociously bad and random.

Currently having a small portion of lamb casserole for lunch but yesterday's lunch was 5 Dime bars.

[Guest]

I once exploded a veggie lasagne in the oven.

[Guest]

Had to clean the whole oven. Decided it wasn't even worth it.

[shrapnel]

I reckon Cocaine does a better job!

amphetamine was the key ingredient in all diet pills in the 80s. Everyone was dieting!

[RichieM]

I reckon Cocaine does a better job!

Only if your being selfish tho. Smoking makes you super thin and look cool but the real benefit is of course the second hand smoke. This helps everyone around you stay thin, even kids who are to young to buy their own smokes.

I have never heard of second hand cocaine.

[MrsFlushdraw]

amphetamine was the key ingredient in all diet pills in the 80s. Everyone was dieting!

In the late 90's and early 2000 the big thing where I was for dieting was ephedrine tablets.

[Guest]

My food intake is atrociously bad and random.

Currently having a small portion of lamb casserole for lunch but yesterday's lunch was 5 Dime bars.

Little like me a little now. When I ate well though I ate intutively when I wanted sweet I had fruit or natural yoghurt (which tasted sweet after a bit) and when i wanted savory I had veg or nuts etc. I am like a bird mostly. I pick.

[Raoul Duke III]

That's exactly what the article states though, pre 1980 people were eating eggs, meat etc but were told to replace them with carbs and obesity went through the roof.

Meat and eggs were more expensive in those days. People's main sustemance was bread. Why didn't they get fat?

[Zod]

Meat and eggs were more expensive in those days. People's main sustemance was bread. Why didn't they get fat?

Chemtrails.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Actually meant to ask this before Tar - the misses is putting a big push into us eating vegie at least once a week. A lot of what seems to becoming out is tasteless mush so what are your top 3 recipies - both of us are pretty decent around the kitchen in general but I dont eat nuts and she doesn't eat mushrooms which cuts out a lot of options.

Why not nuts, allergic or taste? You can make such nice sauces from nuts and obviusly wouldnt taste like nuts. If it's an allergy thing dismiss.

Here is a random sampling of veggie food I made a few years back that i will paste as its hard to type with one arm to help you.

I often make massaman curry which is very simple http://i.imgur.com/aXQ931O.jpg
Just massaman paste bought in the chinese or indian shops, a tin of coconut milk and assorted veg. Baby corns, mushrooms, chickpeas, tofu, whatever. You basically mix the paste with the milk and fry the veg lightly, mixing it together and having it with noodles.

A note on tofu, you can get a kg of it from the Asian market for E2.xx. Now mostly tofu tastes like crap so the trick is to empty the water, freeze the tofu and defrost it again, then fry it in cubes, It tastes waaaay better.


Veggie korma,used tofu instead of paneer, both are great.

http://i.imgur.com/aATax.jpg

http://myfancypantry.com/2012/04/15/...n-vegan-korma/

http://www.food.com/recipe/easy-pilau-rice-55802

AMtar paneer is also easy to make: http://i.imgur.com/Gp5x4.jpg


goats cheese stuffed mushrooms http://i.imgur.com/RBVSV.jpg

http://www.marthastewart.com/314083/goat-cheese-stuffed-mushrooms

caramelised onion, sundried tomatoes, cherry tomatoes and goat's cheese in a filo case with lentils. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/pictu...ictureid=12491

chili garlic tofu stirfry: http://i.imgur.com/u1ZHm.jpg

couscous bake http://i.imgur.com/s17JJ.jpg
fry onions and garlic and tin chopped tomatoes together, mix with cooked cous cous, add salt and herbs, fresh spinach, top with goats cheese and bake in the oven, add some toasted pine nuts on top.

roast butternut squash, red lentil and spinach curry http://i.imgur.com/PDuPi.jpg
Roast the squash first, after cutting it in half. The cook it all together on the pan. Very simple and delicious.

Another thing that is great with butternut squash is soup, again roast the squash to make it taste better, you can put honey or sugar on it while it is roasting http://i.imgur.com/EA0OE.jpg

pan-orange-glazed-tempeh on lentils and kale: http://i.imgur.com/58gM9tZ.jpg
Can do the same with tofu. Recipe from here: http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives...eh-recipe.html

http://i.imgur.com/TfHPo.jpg

It's from http://blogchef.net/mexican-casserole-recipe used quorn mince
also made the salsa for it fromhttp://allrecipes.com/recipe/speedy-homemade-salsa I did use red jalapenos instead of green ones and I used balsamic vinegar in place of cider vinegar.

Served with some sour cream on the side


dum aloo http://i.imgur.com/19rsr.jpg
recipe I used is gone from the internets now but here is a different one, any of them will do http://www.vegrecipesofindia.com/punjabi-dum-aloo/ I baked the potatoes and threw in some kidney beans and lentils)


kidney bean, quinoa and sweet potato chilli from http://www.milkfreemom.com/vegan-qui...-potato-chili/ Simple and lovely, my attempt: http://i.imgur.com/rl5Lqox.jpg
Similar, lentil bolagnaise: http://i.imgur.com/YA5k0.jpg

This place has some nice simple 10 minute meals kinda thing http://theveganstoner.com/

This is a salad with artichoke hearts, peppers and so on with roasted portabello mushrooms, used spinach, coconut milk, fortified nutritional yeast(can use cheese instead) etc. Here is the recipe

http://www.peasoupeats.com/2013/03/05/ultimate-vegan-stuffed-mushrooms/

http://i.imgur.com/dgJYLnY.jpg

Simple things like this are great, rocket, hummous, goats cheese and sweet potato fries http://i.imgur.com/ry5vCEr.jpg


lasagne cupcakes: http://i.imgur.com/c66Cg3L.png http://i.imgur.com/mBWiL20.jpg
I layered filo pastry in cupcake tins, added the lasagne vegetarian mince/veg/sauce (fried that up first) stuffs, more filo, more lasagne, then cheese on top. You're meant to use "wonton" pastry stuff or lasagne sheets. Filo was nice


baked poha cakes http://i.imgur.com/LQf7V.jpg

http://indianfood.about.com/od/sidesandsalads/r/poha.htm

veggie skewers in the oven: Pepper, tofu, mushrooms in soy sauce and halloumi. http://i.imgur.com/KkCMc.jpg


Mushroom, spinach, onion, garlic, white wine and quorn vol-au-vents.
Spinach, blueberry and cranberry wensleydale cheese, nuts, olives, cherry tomatoes, babycorn salad, with greek hummous.
Homemade coleslaw.

http://i.imgur.com/aTRsA.jpg

tomato curry and coconut rice

http://www.nigella.com/recipes/view/TOMATO-CURRY-WITH-COCONUT-RICE-5313

http://i.imgur.com/QghEG.jpg

[Denny Crane]

Do you fly a lot? We picked up the maximum capacity hand luggage bags. Can hold a weeks worth. Range between £10-20

They are brilliant. I also bought a small hand luggage case and it holds shit

Probably going to be a couple of times a month

[Emmet]

Only if your being selfish tho. Smoking makes you super thin and look cool but the real benefit is of course the second hand smoke. This helps everyone around you stay thin, even kids who are to young to buy their own smokes.

I have never heard of second hand cocaine.

Isn't cocaine always second hand? People don't buy coke, you get coke given to you from people on coke. It's never your own.

Or so I've heard.

[Guest]

In the late 90's and early 2000 the big thing where I was for dieting was ephedrine tablets.

I know lots of girls who did that.

[Guest]

It ruins your heart.

[Guest]

Isn't cocaine always second hand? People don't buy coke, you get coke given to you from people on coke. It's never your own.

Or so I've heard.

It's why you never take sweets from strangers.

[Emmet]

It's why you never take sweets from strangers.

But you can take eggs, meat and vegetables from strangers. Definitely.

[Guest]

But you can take eggs, meat and vegetables from strangers. Definitely.

I dunno..........

[Emmet]

I have a jar of Lime Pickle left over from a Curry night we did recently. I absolutely love the stuff, but have no idea what else to eat it with other than poppadoms.

Any advice BBV?

[Keane]

I have a jar of Lime Pickle left over from a Curry night we did recently. I absolutely love the stuff, but have no idea what else to eat it with other than poppadoms.

Any advice BBV?

Bread.

[Emmet]

Bread.

With this?

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[shrapnel]

I have a jar of Lime Pickle left over from a Curry night we did recently. I absolutely love the stuff, but have no idea what else to eat it with other than poppadoms.

Any advice BBV?

bread ham pickle?

[Solskjaer]

I know a girl who takes sperm from strangers.

[RichieM]

I have a jar of Lime Pickle left over from a Curry night we did recently. I absolutely love the stuff, but have no idea what else to eat it with other than poppadoms.

Any advice BBV?

strong cheese and cold meat?

[Lazare]

Meat and eggs were more expensive in those days. People's main sustemance was bread. Why didn't they get fat?

Good theory on that Netflix show 'cooked'. Basically saying current methods of baking are to blame. Using dried yeasts instead of allowing dough to ferment and naturally cultivate yeast. Obviously takes longer but it's how it was always done, seemingly we've removed a vitally important part of the process.

He was talking about good bread, not industrial bread, sliced pan etc which is pretty much poison.

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[Strewelpeter]

Kayroo in the papers again today. Won't link it just in case. But if you type in keywords 'daily mail', 'get your beach bod ready' it should turn up. Or something around a bank in court.

Genuine LOL at yer mans excuse for not paying his mortgage... ' The queues in the branch were too long'

[DeadParrot]

That's exactly what the article states though, pre 1980 people were eating eggs, meat etc but were told to replace them with carbs and obesity went through the roof.

vs



hard to guess where the money is

[Keane]

Genuine LOL at yer mans excuse for not paying his mortgage... ' The queues in the branch were too long'

Did you buy a car yet?

[DeadParrot]

Genuine LOL at yer mans excuse for not paying his mortgage... ' The queues in the branch were too long'

That's genius tbh. I've no idea what he hoped to achieve.
Ah yer right, it's a pain in the arse, feck them, yer grand?

[Dice75]

PeaceandFire - 2 QQs

Is your Avatar a self portrait?
Follow on Q - if so, did you play last months Fitz EOM?

[thechamp87]

Where's the best spot in town for picking up one of those Ryanair sized cabin bags?

Upstairs in BT or else this place around the corner from The Gaiety.

[Dice75]

I didn't no.

The pic is by lori early. It looks a bit like me but it could be any blonde really. I just like it.

OK, TY , carry on.

[Dice75]

you in love or does she owe you monies??

Former

[DeadParrot]

Treating the wife to her first night out for her birthday since the baba arrived.
She is already ensconced in Brown Sugar for pampering, then a drink, then L'Ecrivain
I expect us both to be asleep in our desserts

[Mellor]

AFAIR It was made by the wheat marketing board in the States sometime around the 50's

The pyramid itself was 1992 in the states. But the grain lobby was able to edit 80s advice too.

Earlier advice in the US was much more reasonable;

The Basic 7 - 1943
Got to love the wartime squeeze in this one. Eat a bit of everything and as much as you like after that.


After that it was simpler
The Basic 4 - 1943
Fruit and Veg, and Meat group making up the biggest blocks. Grains have more serves but supposed to be smaller. Eat more to round out meals.

[Strewelpeter]

Did you buy a car yet?

Going to pick up a 10 Passat with 110Km for 10K
Bought off a dealer in the end, the few private sellers who would price their cars to sell didn't have cruise. If I get half as good out of it as I did from the Citroen I'll be doing well, will be sorry to walk away from her after driving 370K Km in it.

[Flushdraw]

I wonder what happened to DBC?

[Strewelpeter]

I wonder what happened to DBC?

16/1 66/1 IMO

[Flushdraw]

deleted account?

Yeah, an old friend we haven't seen around these parts for a while.

16/1 66/1 IMO

Ok you're on. 50c

[Ed]

Genuine LOL at yer mans excuse for not paying his mortgage... ' The queues in the branch were too long'

Thankfully I have very little experience with the court system but it must be really tough for people there day in and day out to stop themselves from just going "BOLLOCKS!, you're talking utter BOLLOCKS. BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS, BOLLOCKS. Stop it."

[Denny Crane]

Arnotts. Push the boat out and hit BT if you want something in crocodile...

Have a sale on if anyone else is looking.