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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYea, your version of how you think their ego works is far more important than what is actually right for them
LOL Transition year and still going into college at 17.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYea, your version of how you think their ego works is far more important than what is actually right for them
LOL Transition year and still going into college at 17."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYea, your version of how you think their ego works is far more important than what is actually right for them
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYea, your version of how you think their ego works is far more important than what is actually right for them
LOL Transition year and still going into college at 17.
They will be 18 heading to college with transition year by my count also - 4 now + 8 primary + 6 secondary = 18
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYea, your version of how you think their ego works is far more important than what is actually right for them
LOL Transition year and still going into college at 17.airport, lol
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In more pressing matters than the fact that strewel spent 2 years learning to count in 2nd class and still isn't great.
What is Issac Boss still doing around the Irish camp and looking like he might go ahead of Marmion?
Boss was a fine back up for Leinster 4 years+ ago but surely adds nothing to the squad except a slow pass. He is no where near as physical as he once was which was a lot less physical than any modern scrum halves anyway.
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI was held back by the stupid rules until I was 5, everybody throughout school seems like a small retard, class was too easy, was rather insufferable and I wish my parents had forced the issue.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by RichieM View PostWhat is Issac Boss still doing around the Irish camp and looking like he might go ahead of Marmion?
Boss was a fine back up for Leinster 4 years+ ago but surely adds nothing to the squad except a slow pass. He is no where near as physical as he once was which was a lot less physical than any modern scrum halves anyway.
What happened to that young scrumhalf (well he was) at Ulster? Marshall?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostAnd look at how terribly that turned out for you.
I was always going to do well because I am a nerd but I could have done better, as many children could do if the processes are better. It was actually quite bad as I had no study ethic whatsoever as everything was too easy, that affects you when you reach a stage, a degree or masters, where you cant just remember everything with no work anymore and you don't even know what studying is!
Actually did terribly in first and second year of university. This was quite bad for a guy in my college that had an eidetic memory, he knew the answers to everything but had no ability to work at all. Another problem is people are praised on results and not on effort. I put in no effort and that comes back to get you at some stage.
It's effort that matters, and placing people wrongly affects how much effort or work they need to do.
People should be placed on capability as well as age, there should be tests imo.Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 27-08-15, 11:47.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postgod knows except Marmion is apparently deemed 'not ready' for Test rugby (it is a huge step up tbf). Agree that Boss is gone at the game.
What happened to that young scrumhalf (well he was) at Ulster? Marshall?
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Originally posted by RichieM View PostNo idea what happened to Marshall just didnt get the game time I presume. Probably better using our tour slot for another option and just running with 2 scrum halves as risky as it is or I presume that Madigan can add scrum half to outhalf, first centre and full back to his cv.
and of course praying that Sexton doesn't have Bastareaud run into him in the first minute - my worst nightmares involve Paddy Jackson being summoned from the bench"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostAnyway, you may have noticed that I am semi-agreeing with you. The Unionist response has been predictable in its mock outrage as has the SF one in its disingenuousness.
The professional policeman in the middle of all these twats has my sympathy.
Sothern politicians with an election coming up? Of course they're going to seize the opportunity to give SF a kicking. SF after all have no compunction about kicking them.
Anyway it'll all settle down in a few weeks. There's way too many people getting handsomely rewarded out of the peace process for it not to. Including the sort of 'community activists' who killed McGuigan last week. All aboard the HMG's gravy train.
Boring amd predicatable on all sides.
But yes, we seem to agree at core on the fact that this is all noise in the main and likely to blow over.
Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostSo the IRA dio not exist because Gerry Adams who was never in the IRA says it doesn't
But even you know and have admitted that Gerry has been bare faced lying about his role in the IRA and how its structures operated for over 30 years. But now he is playing it straight and everyione else is just ganging up on poor oul Gerry.
And no one was shot dead or no one was intimidated and there is no organised crime being run by anyone associated with SinnFein / IRA or being operated under the flag of the IRA... So thats alright then its all a made up conspiracy.
I don't think anyone is lying about the fact that the pre GFA IRA is dead. If they were recruiting / training / arming and systematically engaging in criminal activities Republicanism would be in breech of the GFA. Nothing of the sort was implied by the PSNI / Gardai though you could be fooled into thinking otherwise by the Independent the past few days.
And your last paragraph tallies with the expressed positions of the PSNI / Gardai, despite your sarcastic intent."Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Postcover for Moore and Healy would appear to be the major issue right now
and of course praying that Sexton doesn't have Bastareaud run into him in the first minute - my worst nightmares involve Paddy Jackson being summoned from the bench
Now that the recovery looks like it is slower we can hardly do the same and hope that he makes it back in time for a semi final and throw him into that.
Massive loss and a huge pity for him to miss out in his prime.
Agree on praying for Sexton to stay fit.
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostHmm, don't agree with the 'ah sure there's an election forthcoming, so what if we give SF a "kicking"' perspective. Surely certain things, like a peace process that ensures Irish people aren't getting killed on a daily basis, are above petty party politics? If making statements that could destabilise power sharing in Northern Ireland in return for a few votes is considered acceptable by the main parties or their supporters may I say that I am very comfortable not giving any of FG / Labour / FF a preference on my ballot paper.
As for making statements that could destabilise the peace process....SF aren't exactly virgins at that. "Hasn't gone away" anyone? Think that made Unionists feel safe and warm?
Both sides' victim complex, refusal to accept responsibility for their actions and tedious finger-pointing is, well, childish at this stage. The rest of the world, including London and Dublin, just doesn't give a fuck apart from offering a few soothing words when required. Oh, and paying for the whole thing of course."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Mike View PostWife was convinced by local montessori that 3 and a half was too young and that 4 and a half was the age for the ecce. Starting school at 5 and a half too old?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostSo it seems a bunch of prick committee men have conspired to force Billy Walsh out as High Performance Boxing coach. He's off to coach the U.S. Women's programme. Irish sport eh?
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There is no perfect age to start school. The parents should know their child well enough to be able to determine whether they are ready or not.
For example, I started primary school a couple of days before my 4th birthday, skipped transition year and only turned 17 a few weeks before I started college. Outlier maybe but it all depends on the kid really.
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSchool tried to changed the entry criteria in May that kids would have to be 4 on 1 April in order to start in September.
A few parents, including us, threw a fit on the grounds that it was far too late to make this change and that we had already made career plans etc based on a Sept start. School backed down but will implement the policy for next year. She's the youngest in the class but well able for it.
Originally posted by Loopz View PostYoungest lad will be 5 on Sunday and will start school on Tuesday, he will rule his year with an iron fist
Originally posted by Mike View PostWife was convinced by local montessori that 3 and a half was too young and that 4 and a half was the age for the ecce. Starting school at 5 and a half too old?
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Originally posted by Lurker23 View PostThere is no perfect age to start school. The parents should know their child well enough to be able to determine whether they are ready or not.
For example, I started primary school a couple of days before my 4th birthday, skipped transition year and only turned 17 a few weeks before I started college. Outlier maybe but it all depends on the kid really.
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Originally posted by mdoug View PostDoes anyone know where I can watch match of the day from last week/weekly? Am never online for it and I miss it
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostGuy in my class was 16 when he started, could finally drink in 3rd year, I fear that that makes you miss out on a lot, maybe there is something to this age issue after all!
That's hardly why SP is pushing to repeat 2nd class though is is?
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Originally posted by Lurker23 View PostThere is no perfect age to start school.
Originally posted by Lurker23 View PostThe parents should know their child well enough to be able to determine whether they are ready or not.
The truth is that there will be a lot of 50 - 55 month old children starting school next week and a huge number of them will not even be properly toilet trained and will arrive to class with a soother in their pocket, more will never have held a book or a pencil in their hands and will never have had any socialisation with kids outside their family.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by RichieM View Postexactly what I was thinking. Just stick them into transition year if you want you kid to leave school a year later. I dont get why you would hold your kid back a year.
But I don't remember where I saw this so might be talking crap. *shrug*
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I was 3 starting primary school, turned 4 a couple of weeks into it. Mother was teaching there so they prop turned a blind eye to my youth! Also skipped transition year. Started in UCG at 17 and had a 4 year course wrapped up, fully employed in the real world by 20. Easy game Little one will be 5 before she starts though as she was born in May, probably for the best.Last edited by NoRiverRequired; 27-08-15, 14:11.
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Originally posted by NoRiverRequired View PostI was 3 starting primary school, turned 4 a couple of weeks into it. Mother was teaching there so they prop turned a blind eye to my youth! Also skipped transition year. Started in UCG at 17 and had a 4 year course wrapped up, fully employed in the real world by 20. Easy game Little one will be 5 before she starts though as she was born in May, probably for the best.
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fairly cool hand playing out live on the bubble of ept
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meh! didn't get to showdownLast edited by Strewelpeter; 27-08-15, 14:27.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by cooker3 View PostI think I read of a bunch of research that shows kids who are born August/September or January/February for countries that begin the school year then do much better in terms of test scores than those who are born just before the cut-off. I guess SW's point is if it is best to keep Raoul kid back a year to mature or whatever might as well do it early.
But I don't remember where I saw this so might be talking crap. *shrug*
Apart from parents being super proud of their little Einstein it really dosnt matter so long as kids can read, write and do basic maths come 6th class. It is after first year that streaming begins and the guys I knew who were in pass level stream for junior cert mathsand who tryed to move to honours for LC really found it really tough
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I was just 19 going into UCG back in the day and never repeated a class, though my secondary had a mandatory transition year - definitely think it was of great benefit to me to be a bit older than the average student.
Wasn't it Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers book that discusses this issue? That those entering the education system who are more mature than most of their peers end up outperforming - which is entirely self-obvious I guess. I imagine that the confidence that comes with being both bigger and more mature might then compound as each year goes by.
Or I could be entirely mistaken!
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Originally posted by RichieM View Postsounds like it might make a difference in infants but after that not so much.
Apart from parents being super proud of their little Einstein it really dosnt matter so long as kids can read, write and do basic maths come 6th class. It is after first year that streaming begins and the guys I knew who were in pass level stream for junior cert mathsand who tryed to move to honours for LC really found it really tough
The first part is just so far wrong it would be laughable if it wasn't what most people seem to believe.
Again you say 'So long as' ...
The point is that you need to learn to read, write and calculate proficiently in primary school, if you don't you will be left behind and struggling for all of secondary school, and pissing away a year in TY isn't going to help any.
The unfortunate truth is that too many kids are coming out of primary without the skills required for secondary and will lose out because of that.
I'm not saying that starting at four is the only reason for it but I am saying that more and better primary education is far more valuable than shite like TY.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View PostI was held back by the stupid rules until I was 5, everybody throughout school seems like a small retard, class was too easy, was rather insufferable and I wish my parents had forced the issue.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
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Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostYou are actually reinforcing the point I'm trying to make with your second sentence.
The first part is just so far wrong it would be laughable if it wasn't what most people seem to believe.
Again you say 'So long as' ...
The point is that you need to learn to read, write and calculate proficiently in primary school, if you don't you will be left behind and struggling for all of secondary school, and pissing away a year in TY isn't going to help any.
The unfortunate truth is that too many kids are coming out of primary without the skills required for secondary and will lose out because of that.
I'm not saying that starting at four is the only reason for it but I am saying that more and better primary education is far more valuable than shite like TY.
Your crazy point about making a kid go back over the same information even if they have mastered it was nothing to do with it. If kids need to repeat a year why not but I am not a child psychologist but I thought challenging them was part of the process.
Either way not an argument childless me really cares about but as a youngster in my year I found no difficulties associated with being younger academically and there were bright kids and dumbs kids celebrating there birthdays throughout the year.
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