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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostWhat do they do in junior infants then? Seems like they'll end up doing the same thing again."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by jack90210 View PostProbably better off waiting till the kids are older to send to school especially from a sporting point of view will always have the advantage. Most boys in the big football towns in USA are held back a year before they hit high school."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostSeems to be mainly socialisation! Oh and everything is phonetic now which can take getting used to for parents.
Our little one is enjoying learning her letters though and now tries to identify letters in everything she sees.
When it comes to kids starting I think just turned 4 is way to young. In Scotland you don't have that problem as the cut-off is mid February. I started myself when I was 4 and turned 5 the following month. My sister was born in April so she was 5 when she started and one of the older kids in the year. It is a decent enough system and children who are born just afterwards sit a little test to see if they are actually able.
The sex of the child is another factor in determining whether you send your kid to school or not. There are a lot of mums who feel a girl at the near cut-off age should go into school where as a boy will be kept behind to start the following year.
I was lucky that my son was born beginning of October and was a perfect age for starting school just before his 5th birthday.
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Our eldest daughter is four in march and everyone we have talked to in the education field has advised to leave her till September 2016 before starting school which will make her five 1/2.
She is doing the free year this year and we first sent her to a playschool at seventeen months. She was also in a daycare in New York for 10 months which was run by Columbians so she understands Spanish quite well.
What I am trying to say is that she has been well socialised but the reason for everyone saying to leave her till she is over five is for social reasons.
Tbh I could see it this year when she started the free year she walked in like she owned the classroom whereas the other boys and girls clung furiously to their parents legs and some still do even after two 1/2 months.
We are still debating it but it looks like we will leave her the extra year.
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Originally posted by MrsFlushdraw View PostOur little one is enjoying learning her letters though and now tries to identify letters in everything she sees.
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Originally posted by jack90210 View PostHow is giving your kid every possible advantage selfish?"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."
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Hitch I think there may be a way around that birthdate problem, I'll check it out and get back to you.
IMO...Start them in preschool as soon as you can but don't start them in School too young. If you can swing it give them an extra year in primary by doing 4th or 5th a second time.
Transition year is great for a lot of kids but for a large minority, I'd guess about 40%, it is a complete waste of time that would be much better spent in a year out from college.
Originally posted by RD3Not the done thing to have kids turning up who can do long division, read Shakespeare, speak fluent Mandarin etc - teachers really hate it.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostMr Murphy insisted it was a peaceful protest but called into question the actions of Gardai in their treatment of protestors.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by CHD View PostThat is slander, cunt. What are my options?
You're full of awful nonsense Kayroo. Awful, awful nonsense.You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by TheJiggaman View PostAnyone on here play QuizUp? Can you request who to play on it or anything? Pretty addictive.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostThe very few shinners who have a clue will merge with FF in opposition in the next Dail and dump Grizzliy and whatever other murderers and thugs remain, they will be first isolated and then dumped. The new party will continue to pretend to be socialists just as they were in Berties day.
Holding a kid back in 4th or 5th class (or primary/secondary school/school generally) would be utterly demoralising and cruel.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by jack90210 View PostHow is giving your kid every possible advantage selfish?
The psychologist Carol Dweck's describes her research findings in her book Mindset. Now it's a pretty crap book, and she's an annoying person, but it's worth it for the first few chapters. It is actually the one book I would like to give to all parents who think they are doing a good thing by praising in certain things.
Actually on that point, it is still a cultural reality that most people, especially parents, think that promoting self-esteem by praising being good at things and having good qualities is a positive thing. It isn't, we know this. In fact the psychologist whose work started this all off Roy Baumeister deeply regrets his earlier work which popularised this idea, because it was wrong, and the research shows that it is wrong.
So praising certain qualities in a child can be like sticking a pin in a butterfly, it is fixed and static, and then is worthy of praise if it successful goodness of the quality holds to be true or shame if it does not, or threatens to not.
So if you want to praise something in order to cultivate growth orientated tendencies which will stand to a child in their own life then praise effort rather than ability, learning rather than intelligence, and confidence that they can improve at things if they apply themselves, and overcome challenges by risking failure.
It is the child (and adult) who sees their abilities as static who is afraid to take the risk of failure, as that then shows up their essential lack of ability or goodness in that domain. But those who view themselves more dynamically will not collapse at failure or shy away from the possibility of it, because they are moving in a direction, not stuck on a pin. Failure for them then is just a bump on the road, not a shameful revelation of lack of ability or worth.
This is how to give a child every possible advantage, not trying to stack the deck so that they are good at sports.
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Originally posted by Lord Sir Business View PostHolding a kid back in 4th or 5th class (or primary/secondary school/school generally) would be utterly demoralising and cruel.
If its a problem of how their peers react well frankly the childs outlook is already completely in thrall to what a gang of 9 and 10 year olds think then you are already in deep trouble.Turning millions into thousands
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostIts really not. The main thing it allows at that stage is for them to be working well within their ability rather than having to be flat out to keep up.
If its a problem of how their peers react well frankly the childs outlook is already completely in thrall to what a gang of 9 and 10 year olds think then you are already in deep trouble.
Also kids are little cunts so they will give them a hard time for staying back, which isn't something you'd wanna bring on your own kid unless it's necessaryairport, lol
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Outliers worth a read.
also +1 to what hotspur was saying. If a kid draws a picture you should say "great work, well done" not "that's a brilliant picture"
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostGuys you managed to drown out an important message here. Did luckforsome get pizza or chinese? Will we ever know???
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Originally posted by luckforsome View Post...I am back to answer this...In the end I went with Chinese...house special curry with chips and portion of salt and chilli chicken pieces...actually had to text someone to decide for me...nothing worse than when you literally can't decide on something stupid...glad someone got back to me, otherwise it would have been an empty stomach and a banana..."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally posted by luckforsome View Post...I am back to answer this...In the end I went with Chinese...house special curry with chips and portion of salt and chilli chicken pieces...actually had to text someone to decide for me...nothing worse than when you literally can't decide on something stupid...glad someone got back to me, otherwise it would have been an empty stomach and a banana...
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post
Back, and to the left... back, and to the left... back, and to the left.Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Cuchulainn1 View PostOur eldest daughter is four in march and everyone we have talked to in the education field has advised to leave her till September 2016 before starting school which will make her five 1/2.
She is doing the free year this year and we first sent her to a playschool at seventeen months. She was also in a daycare in New York for 10 months which was run by Columbians so she understands Spanish quite well.
What I am trying to say is that she has been well socialised but the reason for everyone saying to leave her till she is over five is for social reasons.
Tbh I could see it this year when she started the free year she walked in like she owned the classroom whereas the other boys and girls clung furiously to their parents legs and some still do even after two 1/2 months.
We are still debating it but it looks like we will leave her the extra year.
Send her this year. She will most likely be grand from what you are saying above and won't be the youngest in the class. If on the off chance it doesn't work out you can hold her back later. You can't do the reverse if you wait another year.Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt
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Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View PostI can only apologise on behalf of everyone here. It's not often we can say this, but the BBV let you down.
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Originally posted by Strewelpeter View PostIts really not. The main thing it allows at that stage is for them to be working well within their ability rather than having to be flat out to keep up.
If its a problem of how their peers react well frankly the childs outlook is already completely in thrall to what a gang of 9 and 10 year olds think then you are already in deep trouble.
It would want to be a very "different" 8/9 year old to look at his parents decision to hold him back from going on to the next class with his friends as really the right thing to do in the long term.
Would you get up outa that !
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostDownloaded a simple app recently (called 'been') where you just keep track of what countries you've been to. Seems its 8% of the world (31% of Europe). That's a serious country deficit. Just 22 countries. And that includes getting four countries for UK/NI. And yet it seemed a high number of countries before actually counting them.
What would be about average for someone at the upper end of his mid-thirties, would you say?
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Originally posted by darwinatemyhamster View Post.....If your stomach was empty......what were you planning to do........ with the banana?.............
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Think I'm round about the 20 country mark atm. Unlikely to increase any time soon, but I definitely plan to do this cruise as soon as the kids can fend for themselves.
A few people I've spoken to see it as a terrible cop-out way to see the world, but it suits my risk averse comfort loving personality perfectly.
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Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View PostWonder if maybe it used to be, but not so much anymore given that Ryanair will bring you to 30 countries for next to nothing.
17 countries outside UK/NI/Ire over 37 years doesn't seem much
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