MACAU BEING ALLOWED TO POST

[gocall01]

+1

When is the macau not the macau?

simple. From the 12th the poker room is Connie's.

It is Connie who willl benefit from the success, and it is Connie who will suffer if it fails.

What happened previous still hangs in the air like a bad smell but it is on Connies head if the actions of the previous managers and owner of the Macau affect the business, as he is the one taking the risk.

I've only had very limited dealing with Connie, but he has the Poker community at heart and has long been at the forefront of promoting poker in Ireland in general and Munster in particular.


This is Connie's venture. I think it is right that Connie is allowed to promote his events, for his potential benefit if it works, and his potential loss if it doesn't.

+1

[westlife]

There is another way of looking at it which is that the Macau's failure to answer these questions over a number of years stinks to high heaven and is answer enough in itself and everyone in the poker community should be made aware of that

There is no such smell from Connie as far as I am aware

So I would be happy to let Connie post on behalf of the Macau for as long as Connie is going to be responsible for delivering the service for poker players there and for as long as the administrators of this forum are satisfied that poker players going there have nothing to fear

And people who have a vested interest in the Macau not being allowed post should not be here advocating that they should not be allowed post and should not be listened to imo

I have no vested interest in the Macau not being allow post. Several years ago when this became an issue and I agreed there should be consequences to their lack of response..... I also, back then, had no vested interest.

People who lost out on league money, got barred and banned from playing cash league finals............. would you consider these people having a vested interest?

The people who post for and against... the likes of Dave and Tony (both for the ban to be lifted), I fully respect their opinion. Don't have to agree with it, but respect it.
But when you talk about people having ulterior motives for posting then lol at several of the posts above. These players are the players put in by the Macau over the last year when the regularly missed their guarantees......... The guarantees they actually honored!

Whatever happens Connie will run this club in whatever capacity he is stating. Good luck to him. But this is a valid question of justification of the lifting.

[scraz]

Just putting in my 2 cents for what its worth

I have played in both casino's and have no alliance to anyplace

What i will say is that connie comes across as a nice chap and i comletely agree that if he is putting his neck on the block then he does deserve a fair shot

But on the other hard i dont get how people say that the corkerys dont benefit from connie posting.the fact of the matter is that connie is only leasing the cardroom..he is obviously looking to post to bring in new members ( which is fine) but its worth noting that while on break or if knocked out then there is a high chance that these new members potentially could play a casino game..thus the corkery family gaining

They might not be directly benefiting as connie is in control but its v v possible they will indirectly benefit from spillover or foot fall

[westlife]

Quite recently, a respected member of our community(L.S) took over the running of a poker room in Dublin that was banned from using our site. After discussion with the mods the ban (correctly IMO ) was lifted. That poker room has been posting here since. As far as I know, there were no objections from any members.

Would those that are objecting now explain how this situation is different???

Your 100% right. Forgot they where banned. They should not be allowed post. Larry needs to clarify that he has a "licence to operate agreement" with the Westbury club to operate the poker room only. Thanks (and a special thank you from Bruno!) for bringing it to everyone's attention!

[Lord Sir Banter]

I have no interest in this topic.

[Lplate]

Whatever happens Connie will run this club in whatever capacity he is stating.

Larry needs to clarify that he has a "licence to operate agreement"

A tad sarcastic Phil, don't you think?

[corkie123]

[QUOTE=westlife;756714]I have no vested interest in the Macau not being allow post. Several years ago when this became an issue and I agreed there should be consequences to their lack of response..... I also, back then, had no vested interest.

People who lost out on league money, got barred and banned from playing cash league finals............. would you consider these people having a vested interest?

The people who post for and against... the likes of Dave and Tony (both for the ban to be lifted), I fully respect their opinion. Don't have to agree with it, but respect it.
But when you talk about people having ulterior motives for posting then lol at several of the posts above. These players are the players put in by the Macau over the last year when the regularly missed their guarantees......... The guarantees they actually honored!

Whatever happens Connie will run this club in whatever capacity he is stating. Good luck to him. But this is a valid question of justification of the lifting.[/


o phil phil stop trying to justify why your asking this question we all know why with all its vested interest
i really hoped you would move on from this and stop talking shite about how high and mighty you are and how worried you are about ( connie doing great in macau) the cork poker players
this will be my last say on this as to be honest i dont give a toss if connie post here or not as it wont affect me like it will others that they going to so much trouble over it

[westlife]

ed

A tad sarcastic Phil, don't you think?

More ignorance. I assume that a licence to operate is an agreement where 1 party sublets their business to another and is a viable way of distancing himself from a club that will make it problematic for him to be allowed post.

Tbf with Connies initial announcement of his going "into" the Macau..... it was extremely vague as to what his capacity was going to be! He said he was "taking over the running of the poker room" (not "taking over") and "with me at the helm".... terminology more associated with a managerial role then proprietorship!

I really don't understand why Connie is being continually brought into the debate. As far as I am concerned, this is a question of the club, not Connie.

[westlife]

[QUOTE=corkie123;756740]

I have no vested interest in the Macau not being allow post. Several years ago when this became an issue and I agreed there should be consequences to their lack of response..... I also, back then, had no vested interest.

People who lost out on league money, got barred and banned from playing cash league finals............. would you consider these people having a vested interest?

The people who post for and against... the likes of Dave and Tony (both for the ban to be lifted), I fully respect their opinion. Don't have to agree with it, but respect it.
But when you talk about people having ulterior motives for posting then lol at several of the posts above. These players are the players put in by the Macau over the last year when the regularly missed their guarantees......... The guarantees they actually honored!

Whatever happens Connie will run this club in whatever capacity he is stating. Good luck to him. But this is a valid question of justification of the lifting.[/


o phil phil stop trying to justify why your asking this question we all know why with all its vested interest
i really hoped you would move on from this and stop talking shite about how high and mighty you are and how worried you are about ( connie doing great in macau) the cork poker players
this will be my last say on this as to be honest i dont give a toss if connie post here or not as it wont affect me like it will others that they going to so much trouble over it

I have never been high and mighty in my life. I am not worried, in the slightest, about Connie doing great/Cork poker players. They will all be fine!

[westlife]

I would like to retract my bbv comment post as Ste, Sat nav, and Megatron have contacted me to say I was having a pop....... Not in the slightest ........ I just wanted to prove I have no knowledge of the real world and no life!

[westlife]

This thread definitely needed to be voiced, irrespective of perceived motivation and will leave it to the mods to address.

[rockmick]

just put up a vote for or against . cant see anyway around it then that.

[eagle eye]

ed

More ignorance. I assume that a licence to operate is an agreement where 1 party sublets their business to another and is a viable way of distancing himself from a club that will make it problematic for him to be allowed post.

Tbf with Connies initial announcement of his going "into" the Macau..... it was extremely vague as to what his capacity was going to be! He said he was "taking over the running of the poker room" (not "taking over") and "with me at the helm".... terminology more associated with a managerial role then proprietorship!

I really don't understand why Connie is being continually brought into the debate. As far as I am concerned, this is a question of the club, not Connie.

FFS he has clearly stated that he doesn't have an employer in this venture. He quoted you and told you that.
Getting picky over the wording of it is ridiculous. Its the poker room he is taking over as he clearly states. This is a poker forum, he has every right to be able to post here about what he is running there given his great reputation.

Just on Point 3 above Phil, its not an "if"...... I am taking on this venture.
If I was to ask "my employers" anything, I'd have to go back to the days when I worked In the pretty Polly factory in Killarney (about 25 years ago), as that was the last time |I had an employer, and I don't envisage ever again having one!

Connie

[DAMO72]

This is turning into a complete fucking joke . The Macau was banned for reasons that were never addressed and it shouldn't make one bit of difference who runs the poker room . Its still the fucking Macau .

Mods grow a pair and make a call on this . FFS Its a simple yes or no .

[Lplate]

ed

More ignorance. I assume that a licence to operate is an agreement where 1 party sublets their business to another and is a viable way of distancing himself from a club that will make it problematic for him to be allowed post.

Tbf with Connies initial announcement of his going "into" the Macau..... it was extremely vague as to what his capacity was going to be! He said he was "taking over the running of the poker room" (not "taking over") and "with me at the helm".... terminology more associated with a managerial role then proprietorship!

I really don't understand why Connie is being continually brought into the debate. As far as I am concerned, this is a question of the club, not Connie.

To be fair Phil, my comment was polite given your responses. To call me ignorant is at best bad manners and at worst personally insulting.

[westlife]

To be fair Phil, my comment was polite given your responses. To call me ignorant is at best bad manners and at worst personally insulting.

I've worded it badly ... It should have been "it was more ignorance".... (on MY part)...... No disrespect intended!

[Lplate]

I've worded it badly ... It should have been "it was more ignorance".... (on MY part)...... No disrespect intended!

Ok, no problem!

[Lplate]

This is turning into a complete fucking joke . The Macau was banned for reasons that were never addressed and it shouldn't make one bit of difference who runs the poker room . Its still the fucking Macau .

Mods grow a pair and make a call on this . FFS Its a simple yes or no .

I see Canada has calmed you down a bit Damo. Are you enjoying life out there?

[DAMO72]

I see Canada has calmed you down a bit Damo. Are you enjoying life out there?

Really enjoying it here Matt , total different way of life and a few dollars to enjoy it . How are you getting on in your role at Irish Eyes

[JP Poker]

Personally I think Connie should be allowed to post his games in the Macua on IPB.

I know if I took over the poker room in the Macua I'd want to be able to post and would see no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to post just because the people who I'm renting the poker room from has had issues in the past.

These issues have nothing to do with Connie and not allowing him to post will have a direct impact on him personally.

Yes of course the Corkery family will gain a financial benefit from Connie taking over the poker room, by way of rent and from poker players playing house games (if they decide to play).

But lets be honest about it, what do you think they would perfer to have.

1: Connie paying them a monthly rent and a bit of extra traffic on the house games.

Or

2: Run a very successful poker room themselves and earn all the revenue that the poker room generates not just rent!

I don't know the full in's and out's of the situation. But...
It appears to me that the poker room is no longer generating the income that it once did and so a decision has been made to cut their ties with the poker room and rent it out.

This I'm guessing this is due to a number of factors, revenue lost due to an inability to post on IPB is mostly likely a big factor.

So in a nutshell the ban on IPB has with all probablility lead to the Corkery family having to let the poker room go, with Connie renting it from them.

What more do people want, yes of course it would be great to have the answers to the questions. But if we didn't get the answers before we certainly won't get them now.

Should Connie suffer as a result, not imo.

[6starpool]

This is turning into a complete fucking joke . The Macau was banned for reasons that were never addressed and it shouldn't make one bit of difference who runs the poker room . Its still the fucking Macau .

Mods grow a pair and make a call on this . FFS Its a simple yes or no .

Damo, we will make a decision when we are good and fucking ready. You or no one else are going to tell us how to run our site. If you don't like it you know what to do.

[Guest]

Damo, we will make a decision when we are good and fucking ready. You or no one else are going to tell us how to run our site. If you don't like it you know what to do.

Make a new one!

[Icarus152]

Make a new one!

I think we had damopokerboards on Facebook for a while.

[Zod]

I think we had damopokerboards on Facebook for a while.

[DAMO72]

Damo, we will make a decision when we are good and fucking ready. You or no one else are going to tell us how to run our site. If you don't like it you know what to do.

Dom please accept my sincerest apologies for the tone of my post . It was wrote at a time of frustration probably due to home sickness or something anal like that .

Whatever your decision is will not affect me in the slightest anyway as i have never been in the Macau and probably never will .
But i do feel you have allready made a decision to let Connie post and are just gonna use this thread to justify your decision as you know the majority of posters here will give Connie their support given his good standing in Irish poker .
I dont think anyone else would have been afforded this level of discussion on the matter .
Peace out

BTW Damopokerboards is still floating about in FB land , its just i am banned from it thanks to MSN .

[KevIRL]

Okay folks, everything that needs to be said on the topic has probably been said at this stage. We are going to lock up the thread for now and we'll consider everything and make a decision over the next few days. A couple of us are tied up over the weekend, so we might not have a post until Monday

In the meantime if anyone would like to add anything please feel free to PM any of us

[KevIRL]

After a discussion we have decided to continue to allow Connie post on IPB in his venture @ Macau poker rooms. Connie has a long standing good history with us both here and previously on Boards.ie and we are happy to take him at his word. His posts on this thread in particular we feel were very important in terms of clearly stating his situation at the club.

This does not set any precedent and each instance (of which thankfully there are not many) will be reviewed on a case by case basis. We continue to reserve the right to change the Macau posting rights in light of a change in the current situation.

Thanks everyone for the feedback on this, we did take all points on board in reaching our decision