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Originally posted by Opr View PostFuck off the two of you
Surely you can't see us pulling this out of the bag tonight Percy ?
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Anything above 4/6 on Liverpool (-1) is money in the bank. 4/1 is basically robbing the bookies even without any decent defenders or even midfielders. Its a strategy employed by Mohammed Ali and made famous by Rocky called the rope a dope where you appear to about to get destroyed but from the 70th minute you take everyone by surprise and hoof the ball up to the lanky fcuker and he inexplicitly pulls off a moment of magic and we realise the genius of micky/kenny.
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Your investment may go up as well as down and past performance is no guarantee of future results.
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Shakhtar ar 14/5 could be worth a look imo. Barca have never won a champions league knockout leg away under Pep and with the result of the first leg in mind and the Real Madrid match the weekend, Barca could rest a few players here.
I think I might have some of Shakhtar at 15/8 draw no bet aswell.
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Originally posted by shano_88 View PostShakhtar ar 14/5 could be worth a look imo. Barca have never won a champions league knockout leg away under Pep and with the result of the first leg in mind and the Real Madrid match the weekend, Barca could rest a few players here.
I think I might have some of Shakhtar at 15/8 draw no bet aswell.
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Braga trading bigger than 2.4 looks like a bet tonight in their Europa league second leg against Dynamo Kiev. Tie is currently 1-1. They've won 6 out of 7 European home games this year between Champions League and Europa including wins against Arsenal and Seville. They can even slum it with European minnows too with wins over Celtic and Liverpool. Dynamo are missing Shevchenko through suspension who while isn't the player he once was is still a threat at this level.Profit before people.
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chievo v bologna - under 2.5 goals - 1.75
nice v monaco - under 2.5 goals - 1.5
napoli v udinese - over 2.5 goals - 1.73
Almeria v valencia - over 2.5 goals - 1.65
Getafe v Sevilla - over 2.5 goals - 1.73
Milan v sampdoria - milan to keep a clean sheet - 1.67
rennes v lorient - rennes to keep a clean sheet - 2.3
lottery: 49/1
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Originally posted by Charlie Harper View Postchievo v bolonga
13th v 11th {league pos}
bolonga 9/1 PP..
Full strength team from what i can c, any1 know anything about thisProfit before people.
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Its a shame that the game is in old trafford and utd have the better of the last two fixtures.
I have a bad feeling number 19 is on the way and 7/2 is not value as I expect Utd to increase their goal difference more than chelsea in the last two fixtures even if chelsea manage an upset in old trafford. I would want about 7/1 on chelsea.
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Originally posted by CheckRaise View PostIts a shame that the game is in old trafford and utd have the better of the last two fixtures.
I have a bad feeling number 19 is on the way and 7/2 is not value as I expect Utd to increase their goal difference more than chelsea in the last two fixtures even if chelsea manage an upset in old trafford. I would want about 7/1 on chelsea.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostAs someone pointed out in the BBV earlier Chelsea will be playing teams who have nothing to play for in Newcastle and Everton. United will be playing teams fighting for their premiership survival in Blackburn and Blackpool so its not as cut and dried as it looks. Newcastle for instance already looked on their holidays in the Liverpool game today.
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Chelsea gotta play United reserves aka Everton.
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Originally posted by Opr View PostAs someone pointed out in the BBV earlier Chelsea will be playing teams who have nothing to play for in Newcastle and Everton. United will be playing teams fighting for their premiership survival in Blackburn and Blackpool so its not as cut and dried as it looks. Newcastle for instance already looked on their holidays in the Liverpool game today.
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Everton on the other hand have been Champions league quality in terms of win percentage in the second half of the season over the last few years and again similar this year.
Give me B'burn and B'pool any day of the week and I'm sure Fergie would agree.Profit before people.
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While I agree with that to a certain extent I still think its huge for players to be going out on the field with something actually on the line. Joey Barton spent a good bit of the Liverpool game today having a running joke with the Kop smiling and laughing putting the ball outside the circle to wind them up when he was taking corners. He was clearly just going through the motions today completely carefree with no competitive edge like most of the Newcastle players.
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Originally posted by shano_88 View Postevens?
Depending on summer action but I like your side atm.
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Originally posted by Semibluff View Postid be all over the liverpool side of this bet personally. Thats a lot of points to give up.
Also you should clarify what happens in the occasion of a 13 point difference. Push? or do you lose
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to try and look at the league table now and estimate how many points youd get next year;
Liverpool are currently having an underachieving season, although they have had a pretty good period since Kenny took over. Man Utd also are believed to be over achieving considering the strength of their team, with an argument that they will win the league being the 3rd best team in the league (something i dont really believe, but appreciate the merit to it)
So with current 18 point gap between the two teams, Liverpool having a tougher final two games - to say they'll end on 18 point gap is about right (United resting final game, etc)
so making up 18 points, can it be done next season? and is 13 points a good bet?
Theyve lost Stevie G for long periods of the season, and it cant be argued that he is a super player. They seem to perform better over the last few years without him, but invariably if Kenny can manage to have a team with him in it a long with the two boys up top then they should increase strongly.
When you look at both teams in the transfer market and are led to believe the hype of liverpool in the market, then they should slightly shade the summer signings.
Fergie notoriously doesnt panic buy, and with City, liverpool, Real Madrid and Chelsea buying at the wrong prices its very likey that Man U will have the least signings of these teams. Liverpool will buy, and buy big and expensive. although the spots they need to increase are defensively and defensive minded midfielders mainly. Build a spine they can strengthen off throughout.
At the moment, your bet is probably good because there is such guess work about the market and who goes were.
Personally what id like to do in your situation is play up to the hype, take this bet now (although obv a few points more would be nicer for you, show him the 18-20 point gap at the end of the season as your argument). Then when the normal liverpool hype kicks in, id take the other side of the bet when it hits single figures at the start of the season . . . And free roll the 9-13 point market which is were i think the true line actually lies
/ waffle
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Eh, I havent posted in here before but Id 100% fill your boots with that bet.
Carroll, Suarez, Gerrard back, Meirles second season, Kenny talking about strengthening the CB positions... not to mention to Xmas signings getting a preseason with the club.
From a static standpoint, this team right now (with no changes) would beat that handicap imo. Never mind any additions and rumours of money to be spent.
All IMO anyway.This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.
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Originally posted by Theresa View PostEh, I havent posted in here before but Id 100% fill your boots with that bet.
Carroll, Suarez, Gerrard back, Meirles second season, Kenny talking about strengthening the CB positions... not to mention to Xmas signings getting a preseason with the club.
From a static standpoint, this team right now (with no changes) would beat that handicap imo. Never mind any additions and rumours of money to be spent.
All IMO anyway.Originally posted by Semibluff View Postto try and look at the league table now and estimate how many points youd get next year;
Liverpool are currently having an underachieving season, although they have had a pretty good period since Kenny took over. Man Utd also are believed to be over achieving considering the strength of their team, with an argument that they will win the league being the 3rd best team in the league (something i dont really believe, but appreciate the merit to it)
So with current 18 point gap between the two teams, Liverpool having a tougher final two games - to say they'll end on 18 point gap is about right (United resting final game, etc)
so making up 18 points, can it be done next season? and is 13 points a good bet?
Theyve lost Stevie G for long periods of the season, and it cant be argued that he is a super player. They seem to perform better over the last few years without him, but invariably if Kenny can manage to have a team with him in it a long with the two boys up top then they should increase strongly.
When you look at both teams in the transfer market and are led to believe the hype of liverpool in the market, then they should slightly shade the summer signings.
Fergie notoriously doesnt panic buy, and with City, liverpool, Real Madrid and Chelsea buying at the wrong prices its very likey that Man U will have the least signings of these teams. Liverpool will buy, and buy big and expensive. although the spots they need to increase are defensively and defensive minded midfielders mainly. Build a spine they can strengthen off throughout.
At the moment, your bet is probably good because there is such guess work about the market and who goes were.
Personally what id like to do in your situation is play up to the hype, take this bet now (although obv a few points more would be nicer for you, show him the 18-20 point gap at the end of the season as your argument). Then when the normal liverpool hype kicks in, id take the other side of the bet when it hits single figures at the start of the season . . . And free roll the 9-13 point market which is were i think the true line actually lies
/ waffle
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