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**nicnicnic** · 21-02-13, 22:52

Originally posted by Downtown View Post

Have big bets on Rose and Colstaerts in their Day 1 matches. Was able to get on at pre tee off prices nearly 6 holes in to the round. Both Rose and Colstaerts were already well up.

did you get paid ?

**Downtown** · 21-02-13, 23:15

Originally posted by nicnicnic View Post

did you get paid ?

Real strange. No problem until about 10 minutes after they teed off today, then all my bets on Colsaerts had been cancelled and refunded. My Rose bets were still open. Rose was suddenly all square so big sweat for about an hour thinking I might end up a big loser after all. Rose won and they paid out but said they didnt pay out on Colsaerts because bet wasnt supposed to be up as he had already teed off. Rose teed off ahead of him though so dont know what was going on.

Surely they should of either cancelled or paid out on both bets.

**nicnicnic** · 21-02-13, 23:41

Originally posted by Downtown View Post

Real strange. No problem until about 10 minutes after they teed off today, then all my bets on Colsaerts had been cancelled and refunded. My Rose bets were still open. Rose was suddenly all square so big sweat for about an hour thinking I might end up a big loser after all. Rose won and they paid out but said they didnt pay out on Colsaerts because bet wasnt supposed to be up as he had already teed off. Rose teed off ahead of him though so dont know what was going on.

Surely they should of either cancelled or paid out on both bets.

who was it with ? I wasn't fancying you chances of getting paid tbh they'd be well within there rights to pull the palpable error rule - but yeah they should of cancelled both, strange

**mugsy** · 21-02-13, 23:45

maybe when they noticed the error rose price in running was similar to the sp so they let it stand where as colsaerts price was dramatically reduced so they cancelled it.

I agree though both should have been cancelled if thats the case but your up money so how bad

**Downtown** · 21-02-13, 23:51

Was with Party. Happy enough with the result. Rose was 1/16 on paddy power when I got on Rose at 1.52

**mugsy** · 22-02-13, 00:05

go wan lowry.

tempted to back rory now though he cannot be making them chips for the run in.

**nicnicnic** · 22-02-13, 00:07

Originally posted by Downtown View Post

Was with Party. Happy enough with the result. Rose was 1/16 on paddy power when I got on Rose at 1.52

it's definitely a result

**Dice75** · 22-02-13, 11:17

Originally posted by Gimmeabreak

Not sure if any on here follow Dave Tindall, Sky Sports Golf Editor, on twitter. He has put forward an interesting theory on McIlroy. Obv read the below from the bottom up.

Twas freezing when he blew up in the Masters that time.

**Downtown** · 22-02-13, 16:30

Opposing a load of favorites in match bets today.

Hanson v Simpson
Noren v McDowell
Cabero-Bello v Kaymer
Sterne v Mahan
Olesen v Clark
Van Pelt v Poulter
Kuchar v Garcia
Colsaerts v Rose

**KevIRL** · 22-02-13, 23:02

Great shot G-Mac

**conspicuous** · 22-02-13, 23:36

Originally posted by nicnicnic View Post

who was it with ? I wasn't fancying you chances of getting paid tbh they'd be well within there rights to pull the palpable error rule - but yeah they should of cancelled both, strange

It's sounds unfair but hardly that strange. Bookies apply these rules to suit themselves

**nicnicnic** · 23-02-13, 01:26

Fuck this thing, it's is a fucking bookmakers dream - I'm going playing poker and drinking tomorrow

**accomputers.ie** · 25-02-13, 19:58

Please take me back to losing in ordinary golf tourneys, false hope when your man only has to beat one opponent, pity Simpson can't putt

**nicnicnic** · 26-02-13, 21:02

quick head up for anyone who bets top ten golf markets - the betfair "fixed odds" markets are extremely competitive on this, best priced on 50% + of the fields for the last 4/5 weeks. Also worth checking the outright market, they go best priced the odd few, Rory 14/1 this week for example.

**accomputers.ie** · 07-03-13, 11:09

I backed Fichart pre last week @ 26s and of all the threats i was looking at Sat night i thought Dewie would be the least (shows how much i know). Not to worry he paid me off big time a couple of weeks ago. Going for a few outsiders this week Ogilvy, Hansen and Howell III. Also a few € on Corks' Bradley @ 27s. Like the prices of the 'first round leader' for tonight Sergio @ 45 Westwood @ 39s and Phil @ 29s.

**kincsem** · 11-03-13, 12:10

I had €300 up on Betfair asking for 40s Adam Scott for the US Masters. He traded at 38s, then shot a closing 64 in Doral yesterday and his price is now 29 for the US Masters.

Age 32, played US Masters 11 times (!), 8th in 2012, 2nd in 2011, 2nd in British Open in 2012.
Schwartzel's four birdie finish in 2011 pipped Scott in the Masters.
Scott's four bogey finish in the Open last year handed it to Els.

**Silver-Tiger** · 11-03-13, 12:33

Originally posted by kincsem View Post

I had €300 up on Betfair asking for 40s Adam Scott for the US Masters. He traded at 38s, then shot a closing 64 in Doral yesterday and his price is now 29 for the US Masters.

Age 32, played US Masters 11 times (!), 8th in 2012, 2nd in 2011, 2nd in British Open in 2012.
Schwartzel's four birdie finish in 2011 pipped Scott in the Masters.
Scott's four bogey finish in the Open last year handed it to Els.

You remember this, right?

**nicnicnic** · 11-03-13, 13:30

Disappointing not to see a CKid Tiger photo montage

had a good WCG, needed it, confidence was on the floor after riveria/matchplay/honda

**kincsem** · 11-03-13, 15:19

Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post

You remember this, right?

A hazy memory. If he is well ahead in the Masters I'll sell out.
I do remember Thomas Bjorn dropping 4 shots in the last 4 holes in the 2003 Open more clearly. I had €250 at 100/1 and no Betfair account.

**Aya14** · 17-03-13, 18:54

Any decent stream for Tampa Bay Champs?

Have a small interest ew in Kohles and Luuuuuuuuke for the win

**nicnicnic** · 17-03-13, 19:24

Originally posted by Aya14 View Post

Any decent stream for Tampa Bay Champs?

Have a small interest ew in Kohles and Luuuuuuuuke for the win

try firstrow.eu usually has it

**nicnicnic** · 26-03-13, 13:32

If you were inclined to punt someone in the Masters at this stage( I'm not), betfair fixed are clear best the top three in betting, 4/1 Woods 10/1 Rory 14/1 Phil

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**Nic** · 27-03-13, 23:45

Birdie machine Chris Kirk ticks all the right boxes this week. Four rounds in the mid-sixties here in 2011 saw him in a tie for second place behind Phil Mickelson and it's definitely a course that will suit. Kirk ranks 4th in par four birdies this season, an eye catching 1st in approaches from 125-150 yards and 10th in putting from 5-15'. Best price 40s now.

**Lazare** · 02-04-13, 12:45

Irish Times Fantasy Golf is open for registration. I've started a private league @ €20 a head if anyone's interested.

Irish Times Fantasy Golf - Irish Poker Boards

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Discussion of all things gambling related

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**Dice75** · 03-04-13, 22:07

Y'all talk a good game in here, annual Masters Comp here http://www.irishpokerboards.com/foru...382#post691382

roll up

**kincsem** · 07-04-13, 15:42

I didn't back Adam Scott for the US Masters as his price dropped. My current choice is Webb Simpson on offer at 100s on Betfair.

I had a look at the longest drives on the PGA tour this year. You probably saw on TV Phil Mickelson hit the longest drive in 2013 of 450 yards, most of it along a golf buggy track.
I decided to count how many long drives (pgatour.com) players hit. The site lists the top 999 drives, with 335 yards the shortest drive counting. Dustin Johnson has 34 drives in the list. My idea is you need to hit long drives at Augusta, and a player who consistently hits 335+ yards might be a contender. Afaik long drives do not need to end in the fairway to count in the list. Hitting long drives is also a sign of confidence in your swing. Tiger Woods doesn't hit many long drives, probably because he keeps the driver in the bag. And some of the players do not play the US Tour (much) so didn't have the opportunity.
The list is edited to remove the long hitters who did not qualify for the US masters.

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**Downtown** · 07-04-13, 16:07

Originally posted by kincsem View Post

I didn't back Adam Scott for the US Masters as his price dropped. My current choice is Webb Simpson on offer at 100s on Betfair.

I had a look at the longest drives on the PGA tour this year. You probably saw on TV Phil Mickelson hit the longest drive in 2013 of 450 yards, most of it along a golf buggy track.
I decided to count how many long drives (pgatour.com) players hit. The site lists the top 999 drives, with 335 yards the shortest drive counting. Dustin Johnson has 34 drives in the list. My idea is you need to hit long drives at Augusta, and a player who consistently hits 335+ yards might be a contender. Afaik long drives do not need to end in the fairway to count in the list. Hitting long drives is also a sign of confidence in your swing. Tiger Woods doesn't hit many long drives, probably because he keeps the driver in the bag. And some of the players do not play the US Tour (much) so didn't have the opportunity.
The list is edited to remove the long hitters who did not qualify for the US masters.

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I'm not sure this is a relevant stat for this week. McIlroy and Tiger hit it as far as anyone and rank way down in that list. Also it's not quite a an accurate reflection because not all golfers on the list have played as many rounds as each other. For example Colstaerts has played maybe 8-12 rounds on the PGA Tour this year which would be far far lower than any of the higher ranking players.

I think it's a myth that length is crucial to winning at Augusta. I mean to say that length is no more an important factor than at any other PGA event or Major. Given the fact that 13/15 in particular are reachable par 5s for all the field, I would argue that length is an overvalued factor. Granted a lot of the past winners were big hitters in recent years Cabera, Woods, Mickelson, Watson etc but they were all proven winners before winning and very much fancied to do well. Not many "novelty distance" players have ever done well. On the flip side, guys like Mike Weir and Trevor Immeleman have won while each year shorter hitters like Donald are able to challenge.

I think having a Draw ball flight, solid putting and good wedge and short game play are more important factors. Also it's a horses for courses game, past form and experience of the course is also a good indicator. Woods, McIlroy, Mickelson tick all the boxes but too short a price for Woods and lack of form for the other two wouldn't have me on them.Garcia, Bradley, Johnson, Bubba, Mahan tick most of the boxes but concerns over Garcia's putting, Bradley/Johnson/Bubba/Mahan form. Hard to find a flaw in Rose but think his putting isn't consistent enough from 8ft and in.

My picks ;

Kuchar
Fowler
Hanson
Snedeker

**kincsem** · 08-04-13, 14:32

US Masters

Back_______________Odds____Stake______Profit
Russell Henley_______360_____20.00______7,180.50
Kevin Na____________667.2___20.00_____13,324.60
Francesco Molinari____305____34.61_____10,520.49
Paul Lawrie__________560____20.00_____11,180.50
Jason Day____________66.4___68.40______4,473.60
Michael Thompson____460_____24.00____11,016.00
Nicolas Colsaerts_____120_____53.07______6,315.33
Webb Simpson_______102.1__207.34_____20,960.06

Lay________________Odds____Stake_____Liability
Francesco Molinari____260_____11.07_____2,867.13
Nicolas Colsaerts_____110_____33.00_____3,597.00

**The Aul Switcharoo** · 08-04-13, 21:40

Basically Snedeker, Fowler and Stricker for me for some sweatage

Also I just couldn't not put a bet on Ernie when I saw he was 125s. Surely with his record around Augusta that is value for each way purposes and 9/1 for top ten. The Open last year might give him confidence going into more majors.

**eamonhonda** · 08-04-13, 21:46

I'm going e/w on the legend that is Padraig Harrington. And ill pick another couple during week

**theduster** · 09-04-13, 00:32

Can't see past TW, the machine is well and truly back on track. PP now gone 4/1.

A guy who's performed pretty well there in the last couple of years is Bo Van Pelt he's priced @ 110/1 (6 places)
It's quite generous for this consistent performer and looks good e/w value.

Rose, Schwartzel & McDowell make up the rest of my team...

**connie147** · 09-04-13, 00:52

Originally posted by Downtown View Post

I'm not sure this is a relevant stat for this week. McIlroy and Tiger hit it as far as anyone and rank way down in that list. Also it's not quite a an accurate reflection because not all golfers on the list have played as many rounds as each other. For example Colstaerts has played maybe 8-12 rounds on the PGA Tour this year which would be far far lower than any of the higher ranking players.

I think it's a myth that length is crucial to winning at Augusta. I mean to say that length is no more an important factor than at any other PGA event or Major. Given the fact that 13/15 in particular are reachable par 5s for all the field, I would argue that length is an overvalued factor. Granted a lot of the past winners were big hitters in recent years Cabera, Woods, Mickelson, Watson etc but they were all proven winners before winning and very much fancied to do well. Not many "novelty distance" players have ever done well. On the flip side, guys like Mike Weir and Trevor Immeleman have won while each year shorter hitters like Donald are able to challenge.

I think having a Draw ball flight, solid putting and good wedge and short game play are more important factors. Also it's a horses for courses game, past form and experience of the course is also a good indicator. Woods, McIlroy, Mickelson tick all the boxes but too short a price for Woods and lack of form for the other two wouldn't have me on them.Garcia, Bradley, Johnson, Bubba, Mahan tick most of the boxes but concerns over Garcia's putting, Bradley/Johnson/Bubba/Mahan form. Hard to find a flaw in Rose but think his putting isn't consistent enough from 8ft and in.

My picks ;

Kuchar
Fowler
Hanson
Snedeker

Length will definately have something to play in it. When Weir and Immellman won it, it was before they lengthened the course. Also, in Augusta, they purposely grow the grass "against" the golfer and hence cut down on the run the golf ball gets. Thats why last year, Bubba averaged 290 with his driving at the masters, yet his average on the PGA tour was 315 yards, so it was cutting 25 yards on ave off the drive.

That should rule out short hitters as in Poulter, McDowell and Donald.

my picks so far

Keegan Bradley
Padraigh Harrington
Phil Mickleson

**Dice75** · 09-04-13, 13:59

Originally posted by theduster View Post

Can't see past TW, the machine is well and truly back on track. PP now gone 4/1.

9/2 now

**Silver-Tiger** · 09-04-13, 14:06

This is torture

**nicnicnic** · 09-04-13, 14:43

Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post

This is torture

:-)

**Downtown** · 09-04-13, 15:45

Originally posted by connie147 View Post

Length will definately have something to play in it. When Weir and Immellman won it, it was before they lengthened the course. Also, in Augusta, they purposely grow the grass "against" the golfer and hence cut down on the run the golf ball gets. Thats why last year, Bubba averaged 290 with his driving at the masters, yet his average on the PGA tour was 315 yards, so it was cutting 25 yards on ave off the drive.

That should rule out short hitters as in Poulter, McDowell and Donald.

my picks so far

Keegan Bradley
Padraigh Harrington
Phil Mickleson

Distance is always a big advantage in golf. I just don't think it's any more of an advantage at Augusta than it usually is.

I also think that Augusta is Poulters best chance at a major. He has never been outside the top 30, has 2 top 10s in the last 3 years. He could well be a factor this week too. Donald also has been in contention at Augusta. His best finish in a major I think was at Augusta finishing a shot back in 2010 or 2011. Zach Johnson won in 2007 after the changes were made.others like KJ Choi have enjoyed success. Shorter hitters have always competed well at Augusta.

The players who hold out the most from 8ft and have the better short games, solid greens in regulation do best. Distance off the tee makes it easier to play for sure it's not the defining factor.

**kincsem** · 09-04-13, 18:40

I like seeing the Betfair back and lay prices all flash at the same time every few seconds as the money is put down on the US Masters. Its like twinkling Christmas tree lights.

**underachievement** · 09-04-13, 19:11

main stable is rose/day/kutcher/harrington/furyk
1st round leaders couples/caberra/laird
gl all,should be fun (disclaimer- fun may be replaced by agony on shot by shot basis!!)

**Opr** · 09-04-13, 21:40

From Channing's bettingemporium site - US Masters Preview by Ollie Noonan
<snip> text removed

Betting Emporium

http://www.bettingemporium.com/

Opr

**poprock** · 09-04-13, 21:43

Opr

I think Channing deserves for people to register for his site
considering all the work he puts in and provides it for free

Maybe just a Link?

**Opr** · 09-04-13, 21:48

Originally posted by poprock View Post

Opr

I think Channing deserves for people to register for his site
considering all the work he puts in and provides it for free

Maybe just a Link?

Yeah I completely agree with that in fairness. I'll just post links in future. I do think though that the advertisement that he gets through the forum from me posting his stuff that I doubt he would be complaining too much. The only reason I posted the whole thing was the last few times I posted just the link someone after me posted the whole article so I thought I might as well fire up the whole thing.

Opr

**Opr** · 10-04-13, 01:40

Hills going 6/1 on Tiger from 9am. Not sure on max stake stuff.

Opr

**Dice75** · 10-04-13, 08:33

Originally posted by Opr View Post

Hills going 6/1 on Tiger from 9am. Not sure on max stake stuff.

Opr

Stan James 6's too

**Silver-Tiger** · 10-04-13, 13:09

Shocking effort from Powers this week.

**Guest** · 10-04-13, 13:49

Was staying well out of this but Paddy roped me in with 6 places and a free bet
(the bastards)

Tiger 5pts @9/2

Charl 2.5pts ew @25/1

Justin 1.5 pts ew @ 18/1

Freddie Jacobsen 1pt ew @100/1

The shower of &%$£^&

**mugsy** · 10-04-13, 14:03

not sure whether to back rory to win or go with woods and use boyles money back if rory wins offer.

im going to have some of Oosthuizen e/w.

**Downtown** · 10-04-13, 14:33

Stenson looking like he ticks alot of the right boxes. 1st in Greens, 1st in driving accuracy , 1st in scrambling and 1st in putts <5ft.

have taken out Snedeker/Fowler

Rose/Haas and Stenson in the army now with Kuchar and Hanson.

So excited. gl all

**Aya14** · 10-04-13, 14:55

My team for the weekend hopefully all weekend

Huh 610
Na 600
Harrington 90
And biggest bet on Scott 30

GL us

**rag2gar** · 10-04-13, 14:58

I like Couples ew at 250s

**Opr** · 10-04-13, 15:32

I've pretty much followed Channing's mate in the outrights.

My band of merry men

Rose
Kuchar
Hanson
McDowell
Haas
Jacobson

Hanson/Westwood - 1st round leader.

Top Amateur - Weaver (19/5)
Top Spaniard - Castano (3/1)

Best of luck to you all.

Opr

**NewApproach** · 10-04-13, 15:34

I've backed pretty much every non-English guy priced between 25/1 and 50/1 ew

GL all. I've exams next week so won't be able to watch much of it...

**NewApproach** · 10-04-13, 15:39

Also, for anyone in the Louth/Galway area, Bar One are paying 1/4 odds 7 places ew. Maximum bet though at those place terms is €50ew per player.

**kincsem** · 10-04-13, 15:50

Originally posted by Downtown View Post

Stenson looking like he ticks alot of the right boxes. 1st in Greens, 1st in driving accuracy , 1st in scrambling and 1st in putts <5ft.

The PGATOUR.com website stats might be a bit misleading.

MY STATS ERROR: When I said earlier Webb Simpson had a large number of the longest drives I was right. But where I was wrong is saying that makes him a long driver. A close look at the longest drives page on pgatour.com shows that a very high number (over 50%) of all the long drives so far in 2013 were at the Hyundai Tournament Of Champions at Kapalua, Maui, Hawaii (an invite tournament restricted to 30 players). I saw on TV that some of the holes on that course are steeply downhill. Downhill with a following wind gives a big drive.

DOUBTFUL STENSON STATS: I looked at the Henrik Stenson stats: 2nd driving accuracy, 1st greens in regulation, 1st scrambling. They were on Stenson's individual stats page. I then looked at the overall stats page for all players and did not find him there. My guess is he has played a small number of events to date in 2013 and I see his stats percentages for those events are very good, better even than 1st place in the overall. But players probably need a minimum number of events to be listed in the overall.

Anyway I'm going off Webb Simpson and putting more on Jason Day. Good Luck with your bets.

**The Situation** · 10-04-13, 15:56

#teamrory

The way I'm running he pisses up

**kincsem** · 10-04-13, 15:58

US Masters weather forecast here (about a mile from the course)

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**thedini** · 10-04-13, 18:27

It's going to be tough listening to Monty for the next few days though.

**Silver-Tiger** · 10-04-13, 18:40

He's grand I'm the studio. Horrific in the booth.

**KevIRL** · 10-04-13, 20:35

Originally posted by poprock View Post

Opr

I think Channing deserves for people to register for his site
considering all the work he puts in and provides it for free

Maybe just a Link?

Originally posted by Opr View Post

Yeah I completely agree with that in fairness. I'll just post links in future. I do think though that the advertisement that he gets through the forum from me posting his stuff that I doubt he would be complaining too much. The only reason I posted the whole thing was the last few times I posted just the link someone after me posted the whole article so I thought I might as well fire up the whole thing.

Opr

Fair point lads, but I think to be fair to the site its best if we link to it. Its free to reg so no harm in allowing them getting some new sign ups. More articles up there today btw from Channing on the golf

**bantee** · 10-04-13, 20:37

Picked Watson as the winner last year which was nice at 55/1! Went with Johnson and Stenson this time around, GL all.

**Lazare** · 10-04-13, 21:33

DJ, Westwood and Snedeker are my main picks, backed a few others at big prices hoping to lay.

Freddie Jacobson @ 110
Richard Sterne @ 170
Garrigus @ 260
Russell Henley @ 330
Scott Piercy @ 320
David Lynn @ 590

I love the round leader markets, the weather tomorrow will suit the early birds so I've backed five of them with a sweat saver on Hunter Mahan @65 in case all horses fall.

Rose @ 19.5
Snedeker @ 44
Freddie Jac @ 100
Russell Henley @ 130
Scott Piercy @ 130 This could go either way, he could be dazzled in the headlights on his Masters debut, paired up with Tiger or those two factors may spur him on, he's a boomer off the tee so fingers crossed.

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