Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[Denny Crane]

...What do you work as can I ask?...That's an insane amount of extra money to get...Very curious to know what you do, your background etc...

C'mon.

[DeadParrot]

...What do you work as can I ask?...That's an insane amount of extra money to get...Very curious to know what you do, your background etc...

Tara's a hench(wo) man.
Designing technical weapons for villains, Tara's services are much sought after in the underworld.
This latest opportunity to live inside a mountain in the Swiss alps working directly for the shadowy cabal of V. E. G. A. N (villains eating greens and nuts) presents a great opportunity but has a poor work/life balance. And Toblerone isn't vegan friendly. These are factors all henches must consider when taking on a new position

[ionapaul]

We're currently trying to recruit for a few different roles in Dublin, compliance manager, affiliate & business dev manager, marketing ops exec and payments & security specialist. It amazes me how few Irish people are bothering to apply!

Now maybe it is down to salary expectations (only gave salary ranges with the latter two positions) and the fact for one of the jobs we mention that Spanish and Portuguese would be 'nice-to-have' but we're inundated with Brazilian, Indian and Mexican candidates, practically zero from Ireland and only a few from elsewhere in Europe. Most candidates have Dublin addresses and are currently working in various entry-level roles around the country. That being said have had a few very aspirational candidates apply who seem like they are still based in India

[Raoul Duke III]

+ Tar needs the dough to finance his sneaker and t-shirt fetish, he unboxes a new pair every day and throws them in the canal when the sun goes down.

[Guest]

Tar is one of the least offensive people here if he could knock that vegan nonsense on the head be top of the pile.

[luckforsome]

Tar is one of the least offensive people here if he could knock that vegan nonsense on the head be top of the pile.

...Agree, although he did reject me 4.5 years ago when I messaged him thinking he was a woman, I've just about gotten over that...

[Tar.Aldarion]

^^^ I had forgotten about your attempts to woo me, I could have made the blog, alas.

+ Tar needs the dough to finance his sneaker and t-shirt fetish, he unboxes a new pair every day and throws them in the canal when the sun goes down.

Villains Eating Greens and Nuts have sent me their opening gambit, an offer I find hard to refuse

[Denny Crane]

Ethiopian airlines lost my luggage. They seemed certain it'd turn up but nothing yet. I have travel insurance, but there was probably 1-2k in clothes and miscellaneous contents, guessing I'll be lucky to get a fraction of that

[shrapnel]

Ethiopian airlines lost my luggage. They seemed certain it'd turn up but nothing yet. I have travel insurance, but there was probably 1-2k in clothes and miscellaneous contents, guessing I'll be lucky to get a fraction of that

it usually turns up eventually, but the big question is who the fuck goes travelling in Africa with 2k worth of clothes?

[Solksjaer!]

it usually turns up eventually, but the big question is who the fuck goes travelling in Africa with 2k worth of clothes?

Millennials eh ?

[Solksjaer!]

it usually turns up eventually, but the big question is who the fuck goes travelling in Africa with 2k worth of clothes?

Millennials eh ?

[Raoul Duke III]

it usually turns up eventually, but the big question is who the fuck goes travelling in Africa with 2k worth of clothes?

I managed to get a snap of Denny in his touring attire, it may explain:

[Keane]

I managed to get a snap of Denny in his touring attire, it may explain:

That is pretty much what he was wearing in the woods at Body and Soul the last time I laid eyes on him.

[ComradeCollie]

That is pretty much what he was wearing in the woods at Body and Soul the last time I laid eyes on him.

It looks a bit Melania Trump now though

[Denny Crane]

That is pretty much what he was wearing in the woods at Body and Soul the last time I laid eyes on him.

Yeah I considered bringing the linen suit but glad I didn't

[Denny Crane]

it usually turns up eventually, but the big question is who the fuck goes travelling in Africa with 2k worth of clothes?

I was dressing down!

[eamonhonda]

Ethiopian airlines lost my luggage. They seemed certain it'd turn up but nothing yet. I have travel insurance, but there was probably 1-2k in clothes and miscellaneous contents, guessing I'll be lucky to get a fraction of that

Can't vouch for Ethiopian but most other airlines are much better in that area these days

[6starpool]

It looks a bit Melania Trump now though

It was just her homage to Raiders of the Lost Arc.

[Strewelpeter]

Ethiopian airlines lost my luggage. They seemed certain it'd turn up but nothing yet. I have travel insurance, but there was probably 1-2k in clothes and miscellaneous contents, guessing I'll be lucky to get a fraction of that

The flight goes on to LA, the bag went there. If it doesn't turn up you'll have a fight on your hands to get anything off travel insurance.
Insurance company will go looking for, and probably will find your bag only when the claim goes in and you wion't be allowed put the claim in for months.

Happened to me once coming back from the Caymans, went swimming after I checked out of the hotel so I had wet gear in a plastic bag inside. VHI turned up the bag some months later and tried to weasel out of paying me anything for the soggy pile of mould that was returned to me.

[Strewelpeter]

Rudi Gullani, makes a typo, creates a link. Worth a click (its safe)

[Flushdraw]

We're currently trying to recruit for a few different roles in Dublin, compliance manager, affiliate & business dev manager, marketing ops exec and payments & security specialist. It amazes me how few Irish people are bothering to apply!

Now maybe it is down to salary expectations (only gave salary ranges with the latter two positions) and the fact for one of the jobs we mention that Spanish and Portuguese would be 'nice-to-have' but we're inundated with Brazilian, Indian and Mexican candidates, practically zero from Ireland and only a few from elsewhere in Europe. Most candidates have Dublin addresses and are currently working in various entry-level roles around the country. That being said have had a few very aspirational candidates apply who seem like they are still based in India

Move to Malta and you'll get a flood of applicants! If we ever move back to Dublin, gizza job

[ionapaul]

Oh, we have a flood of applicants - it's just that 1) surprisingly few of them are Irish and separately 2) almost all applicants, whether Irish or not, are unsuitable. We're not even strict on industry experience.

One takeaway is that foreign types are maybe more likely to take a punt on applying for a job with zero suitability? Like some people are applying that literally could never do the jobs and none of the duties/responsibilities in the job spec align with their past job history! Some great LOL moments going through the CVs and cover letters anyhow.

[RichieM]

Oh, we have a flood of applicants - it's just that 1) surprisingly few of them are Irish and separately 2) almost all applicants, whether Irish or not, are unsuitable. We're not even strict on industry experience.

One takeaway is that foreign types are maybe more likely to take a punt on applying for a job with zero suitability? Like some people are applying that literally could never do the jobs and none of the duties/responsibilities in the job spec align with their past job history! Some great LOL moments going through the CVs and cover letters anyhow.

Yup that sounds about right. We are at full employment levels and it’s just before Christmas so not going to be many people testing the market.

Pretty much the case study for why companies use agency’s. Just wait until you look at how much of yours and other team mates time has gone into this and how much your time costs.

Not touting for the work - it’s not that I’m not above a shill but not my thing. Can recommend if you want.

[Flushdraw]

Oh, we have a flood of applicants - it's just that 1) surprisingly few of them are Irish and separately 2) almost all applicants, whether Irish or not, are unsuitable. We're not even strict on industry experience.

One takeaway is that foreign types are maybe more likely to take a punt on applying for a job with zero suitability? Like some people are applying that literally could never do the jobs and none of the duties/responsibilities in the job spec align with their past job history! Some great LOL moments going through the CVs and cover letters anyhow.

It does seem to be a niche industry that not a lot of people have experience in, or are already employed and happy in it. It's the same over here too relating to people taking a punt. Some of the CVs i get are amazing in terms of being not suitable for the job!

A friend over here went from being a barman for 10+ years into a role as an account manager in a gaming company with zero experience, so it's worth taking a shot sometimes!

[ionapaul]

Already working with an agency who is determinedly sending me unsuitable candidates and then arguing with me as to why they actually are suitable

Not casting any dispersion on agencies but by and large, both here and across my entire professional career, I've found that organically sourced candidates are probably preferable to consultant sourced ones - though admittedly much harder to find in many respects.

[FeetMagic]

Do I remember someone talking about taking the train to japan for next years world cup? Can I get a PM with details.

+1, thinking this would have the makings of a trip of a lifetime with the aul man

[Denny Crane]

The flight goes on to LA, the bag went there. If it doesn't turn up you'll have a fight on your hands to get anything off travel insurance.
Insurance company will go looking for, and probably will find your bag only when the claim goes in and you wion't be allowed put the claim in for months.

Happened to me once coming back from the Caymans, went swimming after I checked out of the hotel so I had wet gear in a plastic bag inside. VHI turned up the bag some months later and tried to weasel out of paying me anything for the soggy pile of mould that was returned to me.

Unlucky. I guess I have to hope. Best part of the trip to lose it though. I transferred from Kigali, and we returned and switched planes after flying half way home so plenty of spots to lose it.

Edit, passing through Dublin airport just now again, queried it and it turned up in Addis, back Friday (seems a long time, but at least not enough time to turn to mold)

[V for Vendetta]

Already working with an agency who is determinedly sending me unsuitable candidates and then arguing with me as to why they actually are suitable

Not casting any dispersion on agencies but by and large, both here and across my entire professional career, I've found that organically sourced candidates are probably preferable to consultant sourced ones - though admittedly much harder to find in many respects.

Speaking of such matters.

I’m looking for an actuary, CFA or other suitably qualified person with 3-5 years pensions and investment advisory experience. Exact role and remuneration will depend on the candidate but it’s a small company and an ability to get stuck in and take some responsibility and lead client advice is the main criteria. If anyone on here fancies a chat in the new year drop me a pm.

[bohsman]

Yup that sounds about right. We are at full employment levels and it’s just before Christmas so not going to be many people testing the market.

Pretty much the case study for why companies use agency’s. Just wait until you look at how much of yours and other team mates time has gone into this and how much your time costs.

Not touting for the work - it’s not that I’m not above a shill but not my thing. Can recommend if you want.

Full Tilt got a load of temps in from an agency back in the day, one of them had no idea how to use a computer and thought he was going to be working in a toy shop.

Had a look at the payments job Paul but it would take a hell of a lot more than 35k to get me back to Dublin.

[Raoul Duke III]

Good live theatre on in Westminster atm

[Denny Crane]

Speaking of such matters.

I’m looking for an actuary, CFA or other suitably qualified person with 3-5 years pensions and investment advisory experience. Exact role and remuneration will depend on the candidate but it’s a small company and an ability to get stuck in and take some responsibility and lead client advice is the main criteria. If anyone on here fancies a chat in the new year drop me a pm.

Does posting here about PRSAs count as experience?

[Guest]

Speaking of such matters.

I’m looking for an actuary, CFA or other suitably qualified person with 3-5 years pensions and investment advisory experience. Exact role and remuneration will depend on the candidate but it’s a small company and an ability to get stuck in and take some responsibility and lead client advice is the main criteria. If anyone on here fancies a chat in the new year drop me a pm.

I was considering the CFA's but I'm thinking FRM now. A guy I work with has both FRM passed and they seem the logical exam to take.
Out of curiosity how much (if any) weight do they hold when compared to CFA from your side?

[ComradeCollie]

Good live theatre on in Westminster atm

Boris is some waffler.

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[Raoul Duke III]

Pretty convincing implied argument here that Glencore is worth *all* the money.

Ryanair at just over 11 will do for me instead. Still massively strong relative to everyone else.

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[RichieM]

Already working with an agency who is determinedly sending me unsuitable candidates and then arguing with me as to why they actually are suitable

Not casting any dispersion on agencies but by and large, both here and across my entire professional career, I've found that organically sourced candidates are probably preferable to consultant sourced ones - though admittedly much harder to find in many respects.

There are a lot of bad agencies out there and a lot of “experts in their area” after 6 months.

Feel free to cast dispersions I know just how crappy an industry it is in places. I am sure everyone on this site has had a crappy experience with recruiters.

Who are you using at the moment?

My advice is if your not happy with your agency after a few weeks than get another one. I would also say go straight for a specialist agency rather than a big multi disciplinary. Basically for the same reasons I wouldn’t work for one.

As I said I can recommend who I would use if I wanted marketing candidates. Would just put you in touch and leave you too it.

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[RichieM]

The startup my wife works for uses you - like literally you the person for at least one hire. Just really hard to get good IT folk in a startup who will stay, even when they are good recommendations.

Really which company is she with? That’s quite funny, will have to make sure I do a good job now. Pm if you don’t want to post on the thread.

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[Raoul Duke III]

Average 1/7 odds on brexit vote to not pass, which seems about right. Doesn't seem to be posturing on the part of those opposed - just fervent opposition. So what the fuck will happen then? Like its hard to see how anything can happen. And I normally side on 'well they'll sort it out in the end' end of things, but really hard to see how that can happen here.

It's all about the margin of the loss.

100+ and it's hard to see how May can cling on. Then you could be looking at a GE and Komrade Korbin.

[Strewelpeter]

Average 1/7 odds on brexit vote to not pass, which seems about right.

First time or at all?

If they completely fail to pass it then remain goes fav for the long term outcome. The prospect of going back to Europe cap in hand and facing years of even more divisive politics possibly with added rioting and Tommy Robinson types eating into Tory heartlands could be enough to get it through on a second or third pass.

[Solksjaer!]

Placed my lock of the year and indeed only bet of the year on Teresa May to be gone this year at 5/2. Hard to see anything else making sense as if she was in it for the longer term she'd surely pull the plug on a doomed vote now. Seems more swansongy than anything else.

Lock ? Only a couple of weeks left in the year. Cutting your locks fine.

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[Lao Lao]

If you are recruiting in Ireland now, you either need to pay top dollar or sell the shit out of your company as being the most amazing place to work with the best career path or both.

As a country, we are essentially at full employment.

Already in the last two months, I've interviewed two people who did a great interview but when called back for a 2nd round, shyed off. We later found out that their current employer found out and jacked up their wages so they wouldn't leave.

Every manager in our place is tasked with building a list of potentials and starting the ball rolling regardless of if there is a vacancy or not. We want to be constantly talking to several people so when a job opportunity comes up, we have a pool (No matter how small) to work with.

It's worked well for my current number 2 but we need to up our game as in the next 5 plus years, it's only going one way and that's in the favour of the employee.

[Theresa]

If you are recruiting in Ireland now, you either need to pay top dollar or sell the shit out of your company as being the most amazing place to work with the best career path or both.

As a country, we are essentially at full employment.

Already in the last two months, I've interviewed two people who did a great interview but when called back for a 2nd round, shyed off. We later found out that their current employer found out and jacked up their wages so they wouldn't leave.

Every manager in our place is tasked with building a list of potentials and starting the ball rolling regardless of if there is a vacancy or not. We want to be constantly talking to several people so when a job opportunity comes up, we have a pool (No matter how small) to work with.

It's worked well for my current number 2 but we need to up our game as in the next 5 plus years, it's only going one way and that's in the favour of the employee.

Might be home yet.

[bp_me]

If you are recruiting in Ireland now, you either need to pay top dollar or sell the shit out of your company as being the most amazing place to work with the best career path or both.

As a country, we are essentially at full employment.

Already in the last two months, I've interviewed two people who did a great interview but when called back for a 2nd round, shyed off. We later found out that their current employer found out and jacked up their wages so they wouldn't leave.

Every manager in our place is tasked with building a list of potentials and starting the ball rolling regardless of if there is a vacancy or not. We want to be constantly talking to several people so when a job opportunity comes up, we have a pool (No matter how small) to work with.

It's worked well for my current number 2 but we need to up our game as in the next 5 plus years, it's only going one way and that's in the favour of the employee.

If only this was so universal. It's definitely not the case in this part of the country unless you are in software. I had a recent offer come in below current salary by a decent chunk and they knew exactly my expectations. I also know others locally are paying somewhat better but are not attractive employers for various reasons mostly to do with them thinking they own every waking hour you have.

[MrsFlushdraw]

Somewhat of a middle-aged man grumble here. Had to get the kid shoes today. They cost €85 - is that normal? Vaguely remember kids shoes costing in the €20-40 price bracket in Ireland. This was just a standard brand - Geoxx I think, rather than something fancy.

Geox are not a particularly cheap brand. But that is quite expensive for them if it is for age 7 and under. Got the kids Geox runners before, but that was for larger sizes than your two. I think about aged 10 upwards and about 60 quid.

They were obsessed with Geox, they were popular for running with the kids in school.

[Raoul Duke III]

It's December 11th or busto imo.

You've adjusted your position from "it'll be grand, there's always a deal" quite significantly!

The Brits voted to start a war, that they were guaranteed to lose. With a bit of nefarious Russian encouragement.

There is no happy ending.

[Raoul Duke III]

If you are recruiting in Ireland now, you either need to pay top dollar or sell the shit out of your company as being the most amazing place to work with the best career path or both.

As a country, we are essentially at full employment.

Already in the last two months, I've interviewed two people who did a great interview but when called back for a 2nd round, shyed off. We later found out that their current employer found out and jacked up their wages so they wouldn't leave.

Every manager in our place is tasked with building a list of potentials and starting the ball rolling regardless of if there is a vacancy or not. We want to be constantly talking to several people so when a job opportunity comes up, we have a pool (No matter how small) to work with.

It's worked well for my current number 2 but we need to up our game as in the next 5 plus years, it's only going one way and that's in the favour of the employee.

I do this too. Usually have a bench of people known to be keen to move and work with me again (Boss of the Year obv.). Then, once I get approval to hire, I can turn them around with minimum fuss.

[V for Vendetta]

I was considering the CFA's but I'm thinking FRM now. A guy I work with has both FRM passed and they seem the logical exam to take.
Out of curiosity how much (if any) weight do they hold when compared to CFA from your side?

Nobody in our business seems to have the FRM qualification. CFA or actuary are the two key qualifications folk generally have. Having said that FRM might prove very useful in a compliance/risk focussed/fund administration world but it’s not got the recognition factor in my world at the moment.

[poprock]

Nobody in our business seems to have the FRM qualification. CFA or actuary are the two key qualifications folk generally have. Having said that FRM might prove very useful in a compliance/risk focussed/fund administration world but it’s not got the recognition factor in my world at the moment.

Any idea if you could do the FRM exams and not be working in banking/insurance/risk world?

[RichieM]

If you are recruiting in Ireland now, you either need to pay top dollar or sell the shit out of your company as being the most amazing place to work with the best career path or both.

As a country, we are essentially at full employment.

Already in the last two months, I've interviewed two people who did a great interview but when called back for a 2nd round, shyed off. We later found out that their current employer found out and jacked up their wages so they wouldn't leave.

Every manager in our place is tasked with building a list of potentials and starting the ball rolling regardless of if there is a vacancy or not. We want to be constantly talking to several people so when a job opportunity comes up, we have a pool (No matter how small) to work with.

It's worked well for my current number 2 but we need to up our game as in the next 5 plus years, it's only going one way and that's in the favour of the employee.

The other key point is to have a quick interview process and to make an offer within a day or two max of finishing the process. If you think someone is good than your competition likely does too.

[Guest]

Any idea if you could do the FRM exams and not be working in banking/insurance/risk world?

Well I know they let undergrads register for the 1st exam and the website says two years experience but the industry specifications are pretty loose.

"A candidate has 5 years to submit his/her work experience after they sat and passed the FRM Exam Part II. If he/she does not, the candidate will have to re-enroll in the program and pay the required fees and retake the FRM Exam Part I and FRM Exam Part II."

[V for Vendetta]

Any idea if you could do the FRM exams and not be working in banking/insurance/risk world?

No idea. But it’s always easier to be studying in an area that you are working in. Plus you’ll probably get study support and having experience plus a qualification is way more valuable then a qualification. Signing up to do exams does show real proof of interest if looking to changes roles so it can be a good tactic.

[Keane]

Semi-regular bump for the IPB Book Thread.

With Christmas around the corner any recommendations or reviews are most welcome, and if you are looking for some inspiration for presents you might find it either.

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