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**Crow** · 11-10-11, 00:06

I'd play the same as you did tbh

**sligoboi** · 11-10-11, 00:06

I jam #1 but it's pretty much a bluff because of our blocker as I expect to get called by all aces, pairs and just a few broadway type hands.

#2 I shove most of the time but can find a fold depending on the player. If I've timebank I might check back over a few of his hands that went to showdown and check his sizing pre.

**gorrrr72** · 11-10-11, 01:56

Brutal raise sizes by villians in both hands.

# 1. Is close for that reason but I fold most of the time unless I think he can fold most of his hands

# 2. Easy shove

**Flushdraw** · 11-10-11, 07:58

Originally posted by gorrrr72 View Post

Brutal raise sizes by villians in both hands.

# 1. Is close for that reason but I fold most of the time unless I think he can fold most of his hands

# 2. Easy shove

I doubt he call fold much but looking at the 2 below hands, does it make A4 more of a shove based on what he's shown up with in 2 hands previous?

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**Flushdraw** · 11-10-11, 14:28

Bump, any more opinions?

**DeadParrot** · 11-10-11, 15:11

Initally, I'd say fold one, two is fine

WTF is he at those other 2 hands?

**Guest** · 11-10-11, 15:28

i like the way u played both hands... dont like shoving in with A4 to be honest but seein the way them other 2 hands played out maybe a shove wouldnt be the worst play in the world...

**gorrrr72** · 11-10-11, 15:29

Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post

I doubt he call fold much but looking at the 2 below hands, does it make A4 more of a shove based on what he's shown up with in 2 hands previous?

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#1.
So he opens 100% of his range and probably calls off 100% (you would have to assume)

You have an M of 6.7 so you need a double up soon. Given the info and the extra chips in the pot I think its a decent spot to shove and expect to be ahead and not dominated.
I think I shove here.

**TommyGunne** · 11-10-11, 16:24

Shove both obv given reads.

**Bubbleking** · 11-10-11, 16:47

happy enough to shove the first one

sigh timedown fold the second one

**Donk Magnet** · 11-10-11, 17:00

Originally posted by Bubbleking View Post

happy enough to shove the first one

sigh timedown fold the second one

this just makes no sense to me ur happy to shove the a4 but not the 9s?? why?
i think i fold the first one for reasons being he prob is calling with any 2 so why face a 6 outer or possibly be facing having to hit a 3outer .
the 2nd one is an easy shove imo as with his range here alot of the time at best ur up against just 1 over and vul if he has an overpair or even ak or something like that but ur gonna have to race at some stage why not get them in here when id say 90% of the time ur miles ahead.
or could be opening any 2 but the flat behind def cant be a strong hand as surly hed be applying pressure here with big aces or hands like jj,1010 and such like that more than likely he has somethin like qjs ,910s even something like that .

**Flushdraw** · 11-10-11, 17:05

Cheers for the responses. I think i missed a trick not shoving the A4 tbh. Wasn't at the table long but saw enough in those 2 hands to know he was pretty muck and that A4 is ahead of his range. Had 20 bigs and position was about 17/44 and wondering if despite the individual hand being +EV, is it a +EV move as far as the tournament goes or was it just a bit of TLS by folding?

Wanted to fold the 99 hand because i didn't have a lot of info to go on, but once the fish flats the 200k, i don't think i can fold. If it's folded to me, i think i fold but he just juiced it up too much. Not quite sure what range UTG folds once i shove, but AA isn't part of it!

**TommyGunne** · 11-10-11, 17:29

Originally posted by Flushdraw View Post

Wanted to fold the 99 hand because i didn't have a lot of info to go on, but once the fish flats the 200k, i don't think i can fold. If it's folded to me, i think i fold but he just juiced it up too much.

If its folded to you the A4 > than the 99

**Flushdraw** · 11-10-11, 18:01

Originally posted by TommyGunne View Post

If its folded to you the A4 > than the 99

Oh, 100% with both hands if it's folded to me. I meant if if UTG's open is folded to me, i think i fold. I'm defo jamming both if it's folded around

**Bubbleking** · 11-10-11, 18:45

Originally posted by Donk Magnet View Post

this just makes no sense to me ur happy to shove the a4 but not the 9s?? why?
i think i fold the first one for reasons being he prob is calling with any 2 so why face a 6 outer or possibly be facing having to hit a 3outer .
the 2nd one is an easy shove imo as with his range here alot of the time at best ur up against just 1 over and vul if he has an overpair or even ak or something like that but ur gonna have to race at some stage why not get them in here when id say 90% of the time ur miles ahead.
or could be opening any 2 but the flat behind def cant be a strong hand as surly hed be applying pressure here with big aces or hands like jj,1010 and such like that more than likely he has somethin like qjs ,910s even something like that .

theres a long and a short answer to this

The short answer is you are ahead of his range in hand 1 and mostly behind in hand 2 although the dead money would tempt me to bang it in

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