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    This was my first time playing a live tournament poker in years. I have a few spots I'm curious about. I was always generally short so I didn’t have too many post-flop decisions to make after the first day.


    Top heavy prize pool. 1st gets 22k cash + 30k package.


    1)
    10k/20k, 20k Blinds
    I'm new to the table. Playing 7 handed. Short stack with less than 100k is two to my left. Other stacks are about 500k+.
    I had about 420k UTG+1
    UTG huge stack opens 44k. Too soon to have any substantial reads but from his table talk, he seems to play a lot / is up to speed on online poker.
    I have AA

    This is an awkward spot in terms of my range. A 3bet here is so strong. I'm not sure if it ever really makes sense to be 3betting light here. If I flat I encourage other players to call. The short stack can't expect any FE.



    The next three hands are vs the same player. Generally chip leader. Raising very frequently. Probably 70%+ CO, 100% BU, 100% SB.

    2)
    10/25, 25 ante
    Playing 450k, bu has at least 1.2m and
    I call min raise in BB with Qd3d

    Js9s3x

    c/c 25k.

    Turn
    Ad

    c/ 75k bet.

    Feels like a hand where just about every option is bad. Maybe you could argue that I should just fold the flop. My impression is, that he's just barrelling everything. He's getting to the turn with a huge range and yet I still feel inclined to fold.


    3) Final Table 6 left I think.
    I've c 1.4m.
    I'm BB. SB opens min-raise. He covers.
    25/50, 50
    I call KcQs. I think I'm going to be in this spot a lot, so I'd rather flat hands and let him barrel.

    AhAd9h

    I call 75k

    8h

    He bets 150k

    Normally I would think this was a weird board to double barrel. Very few hands have been played post-flop. But my impression is his game plan is just to put everyone else under pressure. Part of me wants to just call, and close my eyes and call a shove on the river.




    4)

    50/100k. 5 left.
    I'm button.
    450k.

    CO opens, I shove A4o.






    5)


    Very general. But situations at the middle stage of the tournament with middling stacks I find awkward. Like AJ/AQ in late position facing a single open raise, where the table has been playing preflop fairly straightforward. People are only really 3 betting for value, or where they feel someone is being exceptionally wide pre-flop. I feel like stacks are too short to call and play poker and we wouldn't get the equity of the hand. But if we're 4 bet we're generally crushed and probably need to fold. So essentially using the hands as blockers. Although obv not bad if we're folding out 88-10, AQ etc.


    6)
    FT 7 left. I've about 1.6m. Blinds are 40/80 I think at this point.
    Short stack shoves 160k HJ, folded to me on the button with AJo
    Avg is about 1.3m.
    SB 700k
    BB covers me.
    SB is relatively tight. And bb has been playing snug. I don't think he'll put me under pressure for having a capped range. I'm wary of shoving and running into a hand in the BB. But, I also would like to iso.







    Last edited by Denny Crane; 24-07-22, 09:02.


    #2
    1. I think it’s a standard enough 3b here. Yeah it’s strong but I guess you should have only have a strong range which has a 3b/f range. AQo mixing, AJs as a fold etc

    The argument for flatting of course is the shorty jamming and UTG isolating.
    Also, I think competent players tend to cb more frequently post flop as players in your spot will overfold so gives more merit to a flat. That said I probably go ahead and 3b.

    2. Looks good as played unless you feel they don’t cbet with enough of their range? I definitely way overfolded these flops and probably still do tbh.

    3. I think you played this well too, tbh, I think it’s standard enough. Good call on flop and c/f with no heart.

    4. That’s too wide. It’s probably about about A9o+ here tbh. Had something similar recently and 4max with 5 bbs on btn from CO open was A10+

    5. I’ve definitely been too passive in the past, flatting far too much in spot you’re talking about but I think you should be mixing in some 3bs. I think a decent line is flatting more suited broadway IP and 3b the offsuits from the EP opens.

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      #3
      What's your holding in hand 6 or are you just going with ATC?

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        #4
        Ah, mistake. Ajo.

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          #5
          My 2 cents for what it's worth
          1) fine
          2) Think there is merit to folding pre here. You are playing 18 bigs. I think the flop call is fine as could hit your 2-pair, trips or hit a K, 10, 8 for more outs.
          3) raise flop maybe?
          4) with 4 bigs not much you can do. i guess you know you are going to be called though from the opener. could take a chance and hope for a hand before bb returns to you
          6) think you need to isolate. 350k or so. allows you to get out of dodge if bb shoves. obviously sb gives you a decision

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            #6
            Hand 1: RR to 130k. Get it in on flop if called
            Hand 2: Fold pre. No good news on playing the streets unless you trip/two pair up V aggro chip leader
            Hand 3: Tricky: too many chips to jam pre: RR to 6 BB pre. Think you have to fold as played with ICM implications
            Hand 4: Fine imo
            Hand 5: Cant see a hand?
            Hand 6: I jam (if a bigger hand behind UL)

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              #7
              1) "accidentally min click" , 3b is fine obv
              2) pre fine I guess, flop ok, c/f now
              3) pretty standard I would have thought, c/f now
              4) Antes? Always getting called here, I guess it's perfectly fine but if table is bombing is there a case for sitting snug and hoping for a ladder?
              5) I feel that any solver would probably recommend a 50/40/10 raise/call /fold here with those ranges. It's a little player dependent, my instinct would usually be to 3b anyway
              As mentioned above, call IP and 3b OOP is also probably also a decent line to take.
              6) 3bet to iso instead of jamming? 400k I guess you are probably calling SB regardless but it seems a stronger line to reopen the betting rather than jam
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                #8
                General question:

                Lets say a player is in the big blind and only has one blind left but there is also a bb ante; what gets posted, the ante or the bb? Is it the bb because there must "always" be a bb?

                Same question but player has 1.5 bbs and 0.5 bbs respectively?

                Something nagging me that antes are posted before blinds.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Degag View Post
                  General question:

                  Lets say a player is in the big blind and only has one blind left but there is also a bb ante; what gets posted, the ante or the bb? Is it the bb because there must "always" be a bb?

                  Same question but player has 1.5 bbs and 0.5 bbs respectively?

                  Something nagging me that antes are posted before blinds.
                  Interesting one. Haven't had the opportunity to see a live ruling on it yet.

                  But ante gets paid and that's all the BB can win from that hand. If he wins, he gets his ante back and posts SB next hand.

                  In your other example. Ante is paid, and 0.5bb is posted as BB. Player can win the ante + SB (usually 50% of BB) and 0.5bb of whoever else enters the pot.

                  Thinking back to the old days of the ~10% ante everyone paid every hand. If a player was in BB and had 1k, ante is 100, bb is 1k. He would pay his ante and be all in for 900.

                  I'd imagine ante first is due to everyone at the table paying it so he has to pay it, but it's all he can win back from that pot.

                  This is from the poker TDA.

                  "RP-11: Ante Formats. No Ante Reduction
                  For single-payer systems, the big blind ante format (BBA) with the ante-first calculation is recommended. Antes should not be reduced (including at the final table) as play progresses in the event."

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                    #10
                    Yeah it's an interesting one. The ante first thing rang a bell alright but it still seems odd to me that there are can be potential for there not to be a bb.

                    It's a highly improbable, hypothetical situation but it puts the bb at a disadvantage if for example they have 1.1 bbs. They can only win .1 bb from each player plus the ante - i.e. a max 2 bbs. Whereas if it was posted purely as the bb, they win 9bbs (potentially, or however many players are at the table).

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Degag View Post
                      Yeah it's an interesting one. The ante first thing rang a bell alright but it still seems odd to me that there are can be potential for there not to be a bb.

                      It's a highly improbable, hypothetical situation but it puts the bb at a disadvantage if for example they have 1.1 bbs. They can only win .1 bb from each player plus the ante - i.e. a max 2 bbs. Whereas if it was posted purely as the bb, they win 9bbs (potentially, or however many players are at the table).
                      Best way to think about the ante is you're paying for every player, not just yourself. So with BB ante, its just a tool to speed up the game and when you pay a single ante, you're just paying for everyone. That's why it has to be posted.

                      If you posted BB first, you'd be paying less for a round than other players by skipping your turn to pay the ante.

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                        #12
                        Of course, it's cool to read the story of a person who has been playing poker for a long time and knows this game, and it's especially nice to read the thoughts of a person who has been to a live poker tournament! I'd love to talk to you about some aspects of the poker game if you don't mind. It's just that I constantly play at different casinos that I find on suomalaisen kasinon, and I can never win anyone, apparently I play so badly that I need to get training from an experienced poker player and let him help me.

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