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      Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
        I agree fully with the sentiments about Rock expressed by all of Charlie and PSV and Keane.

        Its an inevitable consequence of the mess the GAA has got themselves in by trying to be both a not for profit community organisation and a fully professional sports entertainment business albeit with only one fully professional team plying against a number of semi pro and fully amateur teams.

        They are on a train hurtling towards professionalism and may still have a choice to switch tracks ti remain amateur but the minimum price for that will be to distribute the Dublin money around the country. Its what you could call the Brolly problem.
        We are failing at hurling despite this money you speak of, it must be more than that so

        Dont worry , we are running out of land up here in your Capital so we've nowhere to put the millions of steroid fuelled beasts that are coming through . In the meantime let us marvel at Kerry and Mayo for overcoming the great disadvantage they have and barely losing to the unfair superiority. One could argue that the GAA and Dublin are not doing enough to press down this HUGE advantage . There is another side . The standard is rising and the other lesser counties are becoming more professional in their own approach . For counties where football or hurling is like a religion this should produce some amazing talent that surely will show on the pitch.

        The GAA is changing . Do we want to keep it small and purely a national sport or is there a possibility of growing it as a game outside of it's current scope . We've 10s of million expats. Head down lads . Keep the head down.

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            Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

            Might appear cheap if it's one to one coaching but I suspect it will be groups of 10 or more at which point it becomes vulgar if you're getting 4 or 5 bags for an afternoons work. I played at inter county level and I recognize the sacrifices needed to succeed better than most. I suppose what I'm trying to say here is He's a greedy bastard but a clever greedy bastard if he cons lads to this degree. Karma will attend to Mr. Rock all in the fullness of time.
            I really don’t think you can accuse him of being greedy. I don’t even know how on earth you could justify that statement. Anyone taking an objective look at Dean Rock would say he’s one of the most decent lads on the entire team, and whether you like or loathe Dublin they are generally a very decent bunch.


            Also, for the millionth time, yes Dublin should get far less/no money from the GAA.
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              Karma will attend to mr Rock ? Lol wtf.

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                Originally posted by Keane View Post

                Sure you're welcome to do so and always have been.

                What you may be failing to imagine is the dream in which you could rock down to the local track with your young daughters to find the local olympian there training and only too happy to pass on the wisdom he or she has because that's where they learned it, and they have always felt looked after and respected by the community to the extent that all they want is to pass that on to your kids and all the next generation for the pure love of it.

                If you can read that and think it's all only a fantasy you might then be able to relate to why people like me are lamenting the fact that in our community we're now deliberately pissing that exact reality away for lunch money.
                Ok, that's a very fair point. Top athletes actually do that sort of stuff regularly in their clubs.

                I suppose I was looking at it from my perspective, a masters runner looking for some improvement before the downhill, able to afford it.

                You're actually bang on when you look at it from the pov of young kids starting out in the sport.
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                  Originally posted by oleras View Post

                  Some great answers , and great bashing of the gold covered public pension schemes...but I still dont understand why me, as a private sector worker who has a DB scheme and pays PRSI is asked to wait till 67 or 70 to take my state pension, can anyone explain in simple terms how this 2-3 year deferral makes everything ok ?
                  I don't think it's meant to make 'everything ok'. What it is is a saving. If the average person lives to 82 then paying the OAP at 65 is 17 years of payments - at 67 means just 15 years which is a sizeable 12% cut. And a relatively painless cut as well, as opposed to an actual 12% cut to the amount whilst keeping the year at 65 which would be worse politically.

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                    I guess you have all this sorted now HH so this post is probably moot. And maybe a bit on the obvious side. I have moved home a few times over the years so a small bit of experience. My absolute number 1 thing to do when moving home is find the area, then the gaff to which you want to move, and then buy it (or rent if that's what you're doing). Everything else is secondary to that. Now that piece is so obvious it probably doesn't need to be on anyone's list, cos it's a whole big project in itself. And if there's a move of country included then the project gets exponentially bigger I guess. I have no doubt this is entirely obvious, but just in case there is a different plan being considered - or, I mean a different ordering of the priority. In my humble opinion, the very first thing is to catch your chicken, as it were. Everything - everything - else takes second place. Anyway, I suspect all that has now been dealt with, so - very best of luck with the move !
                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                    I wonder if I'm overthinking things here.

                    The wife assumed responsibility for organising the move to Ireland due to me going into hospital and the post-recovery. Lovely stuff, very nice to step up to the plate in the time of need, we're all in this together. Only signed the contract with work on the day before going into surgery, so couldn't really do anything much until that point.

                    I would suggest there are four simple steps in moving house which should be obvious to everyone, which I've summarised as:


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                    Now I'm not going to fault the preparation. She set up a Trello with maybe 100 different tasks and seems to have been working through them at a fierce pace. It seems almost mean to judge her. Got down to proper micro-tasks too. Like ordering plug converters as everything we have now works on proper plugs rather than those brit monstrosities that Ireland has. Loving the attention to detail.

                    But .... she seems to have not done anything at all of steps 1-3 and instead spent days on end working out things like how to cancel a phone contract. Would you not think that steps 1-3 are the fairly obvious priorities?

                    I managed through broken ribs to do number 3, and did 1 as well. Her thought on 3 was that we'd just pop up off the ferry and find somewhere. Number 1 didn't make the list. And now it seems like there's no obvious way to do 2 as every removal company is booked for August when everything in France is kinda slow anyway. So we're left with having no obvious way to move anything out of the house at a time we *have* to leave as we have a ferry and someone is moving in a week or so later.

                    She seems very proud of what she has done, so I'm only noting it here for observation rather than directly to her. It feels too 'judgey' to say it out loud, and yet ...

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                      Good posts Keane, I can see where you are coming from.

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                        Originally posted by rounders123 View Post
                        I've noticed the quality of road flagman-ship outside building sites around Dublin has deteriorated recently. Some of then dont hold stop signs, some of them dont even face traffic even when they do. Some of them just stand partially blocking the road as an indication you should stop. Some dont even raise their hand aloft to indicate you to stop. Maybe its just a new style and will catch on.
                        Funny coincidence that.

                        Yesterday some roadworks going on and the guy on my side had his stop sign out and the guy on the other side had his stop sign out so nobody moving. I did the old 2 hands in the air "what gives" gesture and my guy hastily fumbled his sign to the go signal. Tough gig!

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                          Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                          Might appear cheap if it's one to one coaching but I suspect it will be groups of 10 or more at which point it becomes vulgar if you're getting 4 or 5 bags for an afternoons work. I played at inter county level and I recognize the sacrifices needed to succeed better than most. I suppose what I'm trying to say here is He's a greedy bastard but a clever greedy bastard if he cons lads to this degree. Karma will attend to Mr. Rock all in the fullness of time.
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                            3 Dublin sites now shut down. Townsend street with 20+ confirmed cases cos the morons refused to shut down after the first couple. Grangegorman shut down after 1 confirmed case and today the new Premier Inn on George's street shut down after 3 confirmed cases this week.

                            I said at the time I thought building sites were the worst thing to open up first given that builders are usually a bit thick and they're a bunch of dirty bastards. Its only a matter of time before another form of lockdown if this keeps up.

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                              Originally posted by hotspur View Post

                              Stuck these pictures up yesterday over my shrine.

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                              is the dude at top left engaging in yogic flying?
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                                I still have my Round Towers (Clondalkin) tracksuit top with our badge on it. 13/14 years since I retired from active duty yet still identify very strongly with my club and my hometown.
                                I would hate to see it become a professional paid sport with players being snaffled by the highest bidder. All the attention being focused on kids with talent would just ruin that community feel.
                                Would we end up with 10 year olds swanning around with monogrammed club bags and designer helmets!


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                                    Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                                    Might appear cheap if it's one to one coaching but I suspect it will be groups of 10 or more at which point it becomes vulgar if you're getting 4 or 5 bags for an afternoons work. I played at inter county level and I recognize the sacrifices needed to succeed better than most. I suppose what I'm trying to say here is He's a greedy bastard but a clever greedy bastard if he cons lads to this degree. Karma will attend to Mr. Rock all in the fullness of time.
                                    It's 1-4 attendees only. Pretty sure the point is to give genuine advice and not just spiel.

                                    I think the price is steep but I don't see a problem with the idea of it.

                                    Interestingly, remember thinking that it may better to get coaching off of a person who had to work and fix, and work and fix, instead of someone who was always able to do it. The auto-pilot superstar doesn't need to process same thoughts as those who it comes to less-naturally. Potentially a medium level talent who's been through 10+ types of coaching to find a good system is a better option to try to learn from than someone who had 'natural talent' or found their groove very early and consigned it to their subconscious.

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                                        Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                        Not 100% related to your point. Just using it as a tangent.

                                        Mask wearing is fairly no-nonsense and almost completely complied with in France. I think because they are trained from a young age that the law is god in their godless country. But its surprising the amount of dumbasses who seem to lack understanding that they breath out their noses as well as their mouths and leave the nose uncovered. It's not the same risk from the nose as the mouth as you, absent sneezing, normally breath out your nose a bit calmer. But still.

                                        The key to mask wearing, as I'm sure you're all aware, is to wear surgical masks not the other crap. They've been designed specifically to not distract doctors while carrying out intensely precise tasks. Barely even notice you're wearing them.
                                        Very non PC thought... but if they made the masks out of ladies underwear, the usage rate would go up massively
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                                          Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                                          Might appear cheap if it's one to one coaching but I suspect it will be groups of 10 or more at which point it becomes vulgar if you're getting 4 or 5 bags for an afternoons work. I played at inter county level and I recognize the sacrifices needed to succeed better than most. I suppose what I'm trying to say here is He's a greedy bastard but a clever greedy bastard if he cons lads to this degree. Karma will attend to Mr. Rock all in the fullness of time.
                                          That’s cool.


                                          My 2c on the Dean Rock thing is that it’s symptomatic of the direction the GAA is going today.

                                          I think the cause of it all it all was the introduction of the back door to the championships. What that did was two-fold, firstly it extended the season far longer for every county such that the club players in those counties were left without their best players for longer in the summer, and starts the extraction process where players feel more like county players than club ones.
                                          The extension of the season also meant that greater sacrifices were judged to be worth it, as nobody would start training in November at the risk of being knocked out in the first round in Leinster. It also meant weaker countries found it tougher to go far as naturally the fluke win was less likely now and they’d have to beat a Dublin/Kerry/Mayo team more than once to win Sam. So all of a sudden you have players in weaker counties disillusioned with the game, and players from stronger countries doing the ever-more required training, they end up training like professionals. The natural impact of that is that they feel they should be paid like them and act like them too.

                                          However, the GAA is for all intents and purposes a communist organisation where all revenues are funnnelled back to the clubs, nobody is paid a salary (save for a few specific non-glory roles) so any argument for greater funding comes from within or is redistributed from elsewhere hence why it’s always controversial.

                                          the problem I see with all of this is that GAA is, and likely only ever will be, played in Ireland to a high level. There is absolutely no reward to the GAA for rising standards, the benchmark of success should be getting as many people as possible playing the sport, a successful GAA has 20,000 teams playing a week, it’s not having Michael Murphy stronger than Sean OBrien or Dean Rock as fit as Marcus Rashford.

                                          Given all this, the gaa will Peter out if fans and communities become disenchanted with it, and all of a sudden everyone demands to be paid. Why is your time more valuable than mine etc.

                                          Dean Rock is entitled to charge for lessons but we are equally entitled to be outraged that someone who was coached (and is coached still) for free is trying to milk an organization whose ethos of amateurism facilitated him getting there. How many kids from Ballymun would be paying €350 for specialist lessons in any sport?
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                                            Originally posted by Emmet View Post

                                            It's 1-4 attendees only. Pretty sure the point is to give genuine advice and not just spiel.

                                            I think the price is steep but I don't see a problem with the idea of it.

                                            Interestingly, remember thinking that it may better to get coaching off of a person who had to work and fix, and work and fix, instead of someone who was always able to do it. The auto-pilot superstar doesn't need to process same thoughts as those who it comes to less-naturally. Potentially a medium level talent who's been through 10+ types of coaching to find a good system is a better option to try to learn from than someone who had 'natural talent' or found their groove very early and consigned it to their subconscious.
                                            That's the biggest problem with the Mastermind classes. It sounds like a great idea but actually isn't. I watched the Hans Zimmer masterclass recently, his was particularly bad. They also assume you have a team to help you

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                                              Originally posted by Charlie Sheen View Post

                                              I've close to zero interest in GAA, but good for him if he can get it. Try hire any professional in any field for a few hours and see what fee they request (but I guess he's not a professional). How dare anyone but the GAA profit from the sport, especially the players. It's quite an odd concept, become one of the best in your field and you can charge people for the knowledge you have
                                              It’s not that odd a concept, it’s not like there’s a guy in croke park making millions a year and everyone wins except the players, like in the NCAA or soccer. It all goes back into development and facilities. Look at the state of soccer and gaa facilities around the country as an example.
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                                                  Libraries are just class, a great resource for everyone from the ankle biters to the coffin dodgers. (Got going on a community tangent)

                                                  I live in Rathfarnham and use Ballyroan * quite a bit for books and DVDs (yes, I still have a DVD player) They have a good selection of films and series plus you can order in anything you want. I often order in a load of films and it's a nice surprise when they email you to pick some up.
                                                  Watched "Will they ever forgive me?" and "The Green Book" recently. Both were excellent. Character based and well acted.

                                                  * Nicely designed modern building with lots of natural light.

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                                                    Third test is underway in the cricket. So what, I hear you say.

                                                    Well, for you sturdy gentlemen out there, you may take heart from the selection of this guy for the West Indies. 22 stone of cricketing class - doing pretty well today, taking a wicket and a blinder of a catch.

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                                                      Stuck these pictures up yesterday over my shrine.

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                                                      Love your shrine (at least what I can see of it) tried to attach a copy of mine hope it works never tried to attach a picture before myself so it probably won't work. I'm too old I think or at least that's the negative narrative I have in my head lol.

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                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                          Karma will attend to mr Rock ? Lol wtf.
                                                          I'm a practising Buddhist and at the risk of sounding or appearing arrogant would venture to suggest that I have a better understanding of Karma than you. All of the bad karma we accumulate in this and previous lifetimes needs to be purified either in this lifetime or future lifetimes. Stick to the jokes M8 you're good at that and never mind Lol ING at stuff you clearly know fck all about would be my advice to you. Take my advice anyway you please , won't affect me either way.

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                                                            There's a lot of interesting looking things on your shrine Limpwhacker.

                                                            For pictures don't click Upload Attachments below, rather click the Image box above that's beside the link and unlink boxes, then click upload, then choose file, then send to server, then ok.

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                                                              I've never really fully understood Buddhism. What I do understand I like, introspection, meditation, mindfulness etc.

                                                              Is the idea of Karma similar to the Christian idea of heaven and hell? If you don't 'purify' I assume there's a punishment?

                                                              Most religions seem to have this central theme, this idea that people need an incentive to be good human beings. A carrot and stick. With Christianity it's used as a powerful way to stop defection.

                                                              I reject that. It's man made nonsense. We're a social species, we've evolved morals. Our success as a species depended heavily on it.

                                                              You don't need the idea of a reward or a punishment to be a good human being.
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                                                                Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                There's a lot of interesting looking things on your shrine Limpwhacker.

                                                                For pictures don't click Upload Attachments below, rather click the Image box above that's beside the link and unlink boxes, then click upload, then choose file, then send to server, then ok.
                                                                Cheers for the heads up on attachments much appreciated. Ever shrine is personal and individual as you and I both know. I love mine and I love coming home to it after a bad day in the bookies or at work or whatever. It works for me and that's the main thing. Buddha tells us that it is impossible for us to love another until we learn to love ourselves. For large chunks of my life I didn't like myself never mind love myself. I'm 53 now and am still learning how to love myself. It's a work in progress and I recognise that. My closest friends jokingly refer to my apartment as the love shack.

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                                                                  Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                                                                  I'm a practising Buddhist and at the risk of sounding or appearing arrogant would venture to suggest that I have a better understanding of Karma than you. All of the bad karma we accumulate in this and previous lifetimes needs to be purified either in this lifetime or future lifetimes. Stick to the jokes M8 you're good at that and never mind Lol ING at stuff you clearly know fck all about would be my advice to you. Take my advice anyway you please , won't affect me either way.
                                                                  I got the KARMA education/lecture from an Indian guy years ago. I fail to see how Dean Rock needs singling out though .
                                                                  I'm resigned to be reprogrammed as a newt on my next spin. I'll take it. Your fk off Buddhism is cool but you know you'll pay for that .

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                                                                    Karma is understood differently within Indian religious traditions and within Buddhism itself. As a metaphysical concept of it existing as a law in the universe wherein volitional actions produce a fruit corresponding to the seed of it (i.e. grounded in wholesome or unwholesome mental states) I have no time for it. Some within Buddhism, particularly at the level of folk superstition, view it this way, and it has indeed functioned as a societal way of giving a rationale for being moral to the masses in Buddhist countries.

                                                                    I view it within the realm of the mental. When I think, speak, or act from mental states characterised by greed, hatred, and delusion I tend to suffer. When I do these things from mental states characterised by contentment, love, and wisdom I usually experience things positively. So from this perspective karma is saying that actions have consequences for us that relate to the mental states with which we do them. It doesn't have to invoke magical laws, or any kind of punisher or rewarder in the universe. It's a description of the way things seem to work within our minds.

                                                                    And if it is the case that our minds work like this, for whatever reason, then we can use this understanding to experience less suffering and more happiness in our lives by cultivating the wholesome states more and acting from them rather than unwholesome states.

                                                                    There are lots of other reasons to act morally towards others in Buddhism, especially as a key aspect of it is to see through the delusion that you are more (or less) important than anyone else, and that being selfish is not only delusional but actually a source of suffering if you pay close attention.

                                                                    I would expect Limpwhacker to have a different view of karma given some posts he has made and the fact his Buddhist background seems to be more Tibetan.

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                                                                      Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                      I've never really fully understood Buddhism. What I do understand I like, introspection, meditation, mindfulness etc.

                                                                      Is the idea of Karma similar to the Christian idea of heaven and hell? If you don't 'purify' I assume there's a punishment?

                                                                      Most religions seem to have this central theme, this idea that people need an incentive to be good human beings. A carrot and stick. With Christianity it's used as a powerful way to stop deflection.

                                                                      I reject that. It's man made nonsense. We're a social species, we've evolved morals. Our success as a species depended heavily on it.

                                                                      You don't need the idea of a reward or a punishment to be a good human being.
                                                                      I don't claim to be an expert on Buddhism and am reluctant to engage in attempting to explain it. One of the fundamental differences is the concept of reincarnation. HH the Dali Llama was once asked in an interview to try and explain what our religion is all about. He smiled and said "that is an easy question for me to answer, my religion can be summed up in two words, love and kindness." One of the meditations we do is a loving kindness meditation. Google it and see what you find.

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                                                                        Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post
                                                                        Buddha tells us that it is impossible for us to love another until we learn to love ourselves.
                                                                        He really didn't teach that Limpwhacker. And I consider that to be fundamentally untrue.

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                                                                          Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                                                                          Stick to the jokes M8 you're good at that
                                                                          Are you sure that's incense you're burning?

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                                                                            Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                            Karma is understood differently within Indian religious traditions and within Buddhism itself. As a metaphysical concept of it existing as a law in the universe wherein volitional actions produce a fruit corresponding to the seed of it (i.e. grounded in wholesome or unwholesome mental states) I have no time for it. Some within Buddhism, particularly at the level of folk superstition, view it this way, and it has indeed functioned as a societal way of giving a rationale for being moral to the masses in Buddhist countries.

                                                                            I view it within the realm of the mental. When I think, speak, or act from mental states characterised by greed, hatred, and delusion I tend to suffer. When I do these things from mental states characterised by contentment, love, and wisdom I usually experience things positively. So from this perspective karma is saying that actions have consequences for us that relate to the mental states with which we do them. It doesn't have to invoke magical laws, or any kind of punisher or rewarder in the universe. It's a description of the way things seem to work within our minds.

                                                                            And if it is the case that our minds work like this, for whatever reason, then we can use this understanding to experience less suffering and more happiness in our lives by cultivating the wholesome states more and acting from them rather than unwholesome states.

                                                                            There are lots of other reasons to act morally towards others in Buddhism, especially as a key aspect of it is to see through the delusion that you are more (or less) important than anyone else, and that being selfish is not only delusional but actually a source of suffering if you pay close attention.

                                                                            I would expect Limpwhacker to have a different view of karma given some posts he has made and the fact his Buddhist background seems to be more Tibetan.
                                                                            Yes to Tibetan Buddhist. No to our interpretation of the laws of karma being very different. There are many similarities based on your eloquent and well written post. I spent 7 years down in west Cork in the Buddhist centre that I advised jbravado to try a few years ago. I loved every second I spent down there and would still be there if my mental health issues hadn't raised their ugly head. I consider it an enormous privilege to have been able to spend the time I did down there and I played an integral part in preparing the site for the building of the first Tibetan Buddhist Temple to be built in Ireland. HH the Dali Llama will officially open it in 12-18 months when it is finally completed. It's a stunningly beautiful building and rest assured even if I have to walk from Donegal to Cork I will be at that opening ceremony. Unless of course Buddha has a different plan

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                                                                              Originally posted by hotspur View Post

                                                                              He really didn't teach that Limpwhacker. And I consider that to be fundamentally untrue.
                                                                              Would Buddah disapprove of the free kick lessons ?




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                                                                                Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post

                                                                                Are you sure that's incense you're burning?
                                                                                Bitch.

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                                    Would Buddah disapprove of the free kick lessons ?
                                                                                    Well he was a Kerry fan if I recall correctly.

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                                      Would Buddah disapprove of the free kick lessons ?



                                                                                      Fucking right he would. Not much kindness or compassion involved at 350 nicker a lesson. If Mr. Rock did it on a voluntary basis he would purify a lot of bad Karmaat 350 a pop all he's doing is accumulating more bad Karma. My interpretation of course but sure wtf would I know I'm madder than a mad thing at times lol

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                                                                                        Originally posted by hotspur View Post

                                                                                        Well he was a Kerry fan if I recall correctly.
                                                                                        That's the mullahs you are thinking of.

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                                                                                          Buddhism is the Oscar Schindler of religions.

                                                                                          A good egg.
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                                                                                            Originally posted by hotspur View Post

                                                                                            He really didn't teach that Limpwhacker. And I consider that to be fundamentally untrue.
                                                                                            He really did you know. If he didn't then I was lied to for 7 years. It's that single statement that underpins a Loving Kindness meditation practice. I've no notion of getting into a debate with you over it though. Every single Loving Kindness meditation I attended (and there were many ) down at DZB began with this principle.

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                                                                                              No fan of Paul Murphy but this is pretty good..

                                                                                              I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                                Buddhism is the Oscar Schindler of religions.

                                                                                                A good egg.
                                                                                                Jainism might trump it.

                                                                                                I also have a soft theological spot for Sikhism.

                                                                                                Hmm, maybe all religions ending in -ism are just inherently cool. Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Judaism...
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                                                                                                    You could actually spend an hour in our downstairs jacks reading all the little positive messages the Mrs has stuck up. Not sure how to post pics but having Dobby & his missus over tomorrow night so will let him post a pic if he's able.

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by limpwhacker View Post

                                                                                                      He really did you know. If he didn't then I was lied to for 7 years. It's that single statement that underpins a Loving Kindness meditation practice. I've no notion of getting into a debate with you over it though. Every single Loving Kindness meditation I attended (and there were many ) down at DZB began with this principle.
                                                                                                      Just googled Buddhist loving kindness meditation there and was delighted Hotspur to discover I hadn't been lied to for 7 years. It's right there at the top of the page. There are also some videos if you feel inclined.

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                                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                                          Buddhism is the Oscar Schindler of religions.

                                                                                                          A good egg.
                                                                                                          Apart from the whole serfdom of the masses thing!?

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                                                                                                            I'm very much against all forms of organised religion but I do have a soft spot for Buddhism.

                                                                                                            It probably stems from spending about 6 months in SE Asia many years ago, it was such a great time.

                                                                                                            I can't remember if I've told the story of our day trip around Lop Buri before or not, I'm sure I have, it was one of the most surreal days I've ever experienced.

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                                                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                Quakers seem grand.

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Emmet View Post
                                                                                                                  Quakers seem grand.
                                                                                                                  It's certainly a step up from the RC church most of us were brought up in. Was a bit disappointed that they've reverted here to using the days of the week, as I'd read that they refer to them numerically, so as to avoid referring to Roman gods.
                                                                                                                  It's still fundamentally based around the Bible, which I can barely read without breaking my hole laughing.
                                                                                                                  Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                                                    Shintoism and Taoism seem interesting too. If I'm remembering the right ones. Like the ones that have loads of different gods as allows you to tailor make your emphasis. I guess we tried to do that with saints but never really put the right PR push into building up saints as a form of useful polytheism.
                                                                                                                    Catholicism seems more poly than mono tbf. All that Virgin Mary, Saint Theresa, Padre Pio, Child of Prague cast of characters?

                                                                                                                    Certainly that's what it looks like from the Protestant perspective, as we silently judge you from our mansion on the hill.
                                                                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post

                                                                                                                      It's certainly a step up from the RC church most of us were brought up in. Was a bit disappointed that they've reverted here to using the days of the week, as I'd read that they refer to them numerically, so as to avoid referring to Roman gods.
                                                                                                                      It's still fundamentally based around the Bible, which I can barely read without breaking my hole laughing.
                                                                                                                      Why would you read the bible?

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                                                                                                                        I still think one of the funniest comments I ever heard about religion was in some C4 sketch show years back.

                                                                                                                        The two lads were playing very upper-class English bishops, very world weary and cynical.

                                                                                                                        "Of course, our biggest mistake of all was introducing Americans to God.....now they all think they're on first name terms with Him."
                                                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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