Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Wordle Gummidge

[Solksjaer!]

Tbf it's a pair of tickets for four shows across two cities, across two years. 8 total.

They're playing two nights in each city, and selling the tickets as pairs, 30 songs no repeats.

And i got pit tickets for centre of the stage for one of the legs

Cant argue with that i guess

[Micknail]

This is clearly Werewolf, adapted for TV. I'm excited.

"Hidden amongst the contestants are three Traitors whose job it is to murder a player every night, without getting caught.
It's then up to the Faithfuls to try and work out who the Traitors are and banish them before they themselves are murdered."
BBC The Traitors start date, time and full list of contestants - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk)
The Traitors | Shows and tours (bbc.co.uk)

MrsFlushdraw

Well is this any good?

[ArmaniJeans]

Well is this any good?

I recorded, not sure if/when I'll get around to watching.
Was hoping someone here like your good self would let me know if was worth sticking with.

[Raoul Duke III]

@DP; my list is based on you bringing kids. If not, drop half the stuff on the list but double the amount of Christmas beer you drink.

[zuutroy]

@DP: Most food and drink places open Sundays year round. Shops are allowed open something like 6 per year an usually keep them for December, though my information may be out of date.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

This video is quite fascinating.

[shrapnel]

I recorded, not sure if/when I'll get around to watching.
Was hoping someone here like your good self would let me know if was worth sticking with.

Not much to go on so far. They just introduce the people to the game and pick the traitors. Boring part is there's a daily task that everyone have to complete (in teams so far) to build the prize pot. First murder done also, so we'll see how it goes in episode 2

[Strewelpeter]

Spent 2.5k on Metallica tickets this morning.

The music game has done changed.

Lars hasn't.

Has there ever been a more money grubbing chancer in the history of pop?

Obv it's subjective and whatever turns you on but IMO they just churn out bad elevator music disguised as metal.

I ever cease to be amazed by their success but I suppose I shouldn't be, they are an ideal soundtrack to a world where Qatar house the world cup, teenagers are still allowed to be exposed to Ayn Rand and Trump exists.

[DeadParrot]

@DP; my list is based on you bringing kids. If not, drop half the stuff on the list but double the amount of Christmas beer you drink.

oh yeah 6 year old in tow.
I was half hoping for a similar plan that I carried out to perfection in Lisbon.
Just staying nicely sozzled on beer and ginja all day between adventuring
However, the belgian beers can be dangerous!

[Solksjaer!]

Lars hasn't.

Has there ever been a more money grubbing chancer in the history of pop?

Obv it's subjective and whatever turns you on but IMO they just churn out bad elevator music disguised as metal.

I ever cease to be amazed by their success but I suppose I shouldn't be, they are an ideal soundtrack to a world where Qatar house the world cup, teenagers are still allowed to be exposed to Ayn Rand and Trump exists.

Ah here , most harsh.

[Solksjaer!]

oh yeah 6 year old in tow.
I was half hoping for a similar plan that I carried out to perfection in Lisbon.
Just staying nicely sozzled on beer and ginja all day between adventuring
However, the belgian beers can be dangerous!

Jupiler i think the beer was i stuck with . Was ok.

Had some other shite that was gank . I needed to do beer research before i went., big leak in my drinking gsme .

[Strewelpeter]

Well is this any good?

I tried skimming through it, looks like all the shite on tv these days to be about 10 minutes of actual content in the hour.
It does seem to be fancy live werewolf.
No seer , which will surely take a lot of skill and fun away but presumably allows the producers more control of the narrative.

3 ww (traitors) and 17 vill (faithful) and there will be converts later.
WW team were handpicked by producers
As per generic reality tv mandates no one particularly likable involved.
Daytime is about team building tasks to increase the pot of money .

One nice trick is they have allowed a couple on secretly and afaics everyone fancies either one of them. Both vill's so it's inevitable one of them will be converted
.

It has potential, we all know what a great game it can be, if they get the casting and gameplay right for TV it could even be Big Brother huge. Might be they are playing too hard to established reality show tropes and will over script it because they don't trust the gameplay enough.

I'll give it a chance if the daytime bits can't be fast forwarded thrthrouh it will be hard to commit the time.

[Degag]

Lars hasn't.

Has there ever been a more money grubbing chancer in the history of pop?

Obv it's subjective and whatever turns you on but IMO they just churn out bad elevator music disguised as metal.

I ever cease to be amazed by their success but I suppose I shouldn't be, they are an ideal soundtrack to a world where Qatar house the world cup, teenagers are still allowed to be exposed to Ayn Rand and Trump exists.

Ah now.

My comments on Lars earlier were a bit tongue in cheek but he’s evolved into what seems to be a fairly decent individual. Easy to see how he divides opinion though.

They have anywhere from 2-5 astounding albums as agreed by general consensus. Most recent efforts don’t hit the same level of course but still an amazing live band and a touring behemoth really.

[AndyFatBastard]

Everyone under 30 plays Among Us so they get their Werewolf fix elsewhere. Banger of a game.

[Strewelpeter]

Everyone under 30 plays Among Us so they get their Werewolf fix elsewhere. Banger of a game.

Do they play in groups or with randomers?

[DeadParrot]

[Raoul Duke III]

Jupiler i think the beer was i stuck with . Was ok.

Had some other shite that was gank . I needed to do beer research before i went., big leak in my drinking gsme .

'Jupe' as the locals call it. Safe enough for a normal beer although Vedett is way nicer imo.

Although you don't go to Belgium to drink generic lager. Lash into some trappist ales (avoid the ones labelled 'Tripel' as they are rocket fuel), some geuze, some lambic but most of all, drink the specialist Christmas beer.

As the Colin Farrell character in In Bruges did just keep ordering 'a gay beer for my gay friend'.

[Raoul Duke III]

Oh FFS, soccer is officially a joke. How can that ever be a penalty?

Decision sent down from the FIFA VIP box imo. At least natural justice was served.

[Solksjaer!]

[Denny Crane]

Lars hasn't.

Has there ever been a more money grubbing chancer in the history of pop?

Obv it's subjective and whatever turns you on but IMO they just churn out bad elevator music disguised as metal.

I ever cease to be amazed by their success but I suppose I shouldn't be, they are an ideal soundtrack to a world where Qatar house the world cup, teenagers are still allowed to be exposed to Ayn Rand and Trump exists.

What lifts are you in?

[Solksjaer!]

Pray for Rigger . Fleetwood Mac icon RIP

[hotspur]

Meant to say, I went a production of Conor McPherson's The Weir in the Abbey last Saturday. Now I'm biased as it's possibly my favourite play, but it's a fantastic production of an amazing play

Can't recommend it highly enough.

[Strewelpeter]

What lifts are you in?

My point illustrated, the first five minutes of that are a dickeyd up power ballad that's lacking the finesse of a Jim Steinman

[Murdrum]

Oh FFS, soccer is officially a joke. How can that ever be a penalty?

Decision sent down from the FIFA VIP box imo. At least natural justice was served.

They call them “Superstar calls” in the NBA and normally I dismiss it a little like; ah they’re just highlighted more; they have the ball more hence it seems like that but that peno looked like the type of decision only very few people would get.

[Solksjaer!]

[Raoul Duke III]

Forgot the full In Bruges quote was:

One gay beer for my gay friend, one normal beer for me because I am normal.

There was some great stuff in that movie. 'Yous a bunch of fucking elephants'.

[pokerhand]

As it stands Poland will progress by virtue of picking up fewer bookings (five to seven) than Mexico.

Both teams are level on points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head.

[coillcam]

Poland is en route to knockout stages based on "indiscipline points" as they're locked on points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head with Mexico. I make that they have 3 fewer yellow cards than Mexico. If they end up on the same number of cards/points (yellow=1, red=3), it will be a drawing of lots like when we knocked out the Dutch.

Plenty of time for goals, cards and drama galore.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Great start to the house, here since Saturday and heating doesn't work yet - guy coming to look at it tomorrow that the developer neighbour sorted with them. Then today I notice water damage in the ceiling downstairs below the shower, so I call around but there is just the younger lad there, a foreman, to ask them is that water damage from the shower above? They say for sure the pipe is leaking and as this is a new build it's untested, so it often happens and that the developer will fix it for free. Call shortly afterwards from said developer pissed off saying he's not our landlord and we have to pay for it. I didn't ask them to pay, and also they told all and sundry that they'd fix any issues lol? Neighbour relations down the drain.

[MysteryGuest]

Great to see Australia getting through the World Cup finals- helps keep the boot on the head of the drowning man that is rugby Union in that country- every bit helps

[AndyFatBastard]

Great entertainment tonight

[ComradeCollie]

Great entertainment tonight

Golf?

[zuutroy]

Poland is en route to knockout stages based on "indiscipline points" as they're locked on points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head with Mexico. I make that they have 3 fewer yellow cards than Mexico. If they end up on the same number of cards/points (yellow=1, red=3), it will be a drawing of lots like when we knocked out the Dutch.

Plenty of time for goals, cards and drama galore.

Gonna be great craic in 2026 when it's 16 groups of 3 and half the groups are decided on that rule.

[Lazare]

Stick on a Bluey had a whole different meaning when I was a kid.

[paul8200]

right now live, SBF first interview since FTX collapse. Sponsored by the NYT. If only Bernie Madholf got such a gentle shakedown
https://youtu.be/0ik497cvvcE

edit, to add: in Poker terms he gives off a lot of live tells

[Strewelpeter]

I'd say he is getting set up for a big fall in Wednesday night.

Still letting him off very light.

The Wife is some weapon, horrible nasty yoke, wallowing even deeper in the self pity than him. I thought you might have seen Quinn's mask slip a bit on the Lunny thing when he goes into that spiel of 'Why would I do that, and here are the reasons I should have'.

[Silver-Tiger]

Still letting him off very light.

The Wife is some weapon, horrible nasty yoke, wallowing even deeper in the self pity than him. I thought you might have seen Quinn's mask slip a bit on the Lunny thing when he goes into that spiel of 'Why would I do that, and here are the reasons I should have'.

Ah I thought it made Quinn out to be as delusional and pathetic it could have. If your man didn't die when the police kicked in the door in England I'd imagine there'd have been a different ending.

Dukes' comment about border folk turning to violence quicker than the rest of us angels is causing quite a stir!

I thought it was a decent bit of TV from RTE over the last 3 nights. Been a while since I thought that.

[Strewelpeter]

Ah I thought it made Quinn out to be as delusional and pathetic it could have. If your man didn't die when the police kicked in the door in England I'd imagine there'd have been a different ending.

Dukes' comment about border folk turning to violence quicker than the rest of us angels is causing quite a stir!

I thought it was a decent bit of TV from RTE over the last 3 nights. Been a while since I thought that.

The Dukes thing is gas, they all seem to be hearing something different to what he actually said... well, he could have done without the 'in their blood' bit but hey

Fair play to Dukes for being unequivocal about the Quinns having stashed away loads of money.

Ah yeah overall it was a well made doc and obviously they were having to negotiate some tricky legal routes between what they could and couldn't say.

[Cuchulainn1]

Ghent >>>>> Bruges imo

“Two Manky Hookers And A Racist Dwarf. I Think I’m Heading Home.”

[Cuchulainn1]

Still letting him off very light.

The Wife is some weapon, horrible nasty yoke, wallowing even deeper in the self pity than him. I thought you might have seen Quinn's mask slip a bit on the Lunny thing when he goes into that spiel of 'Why would I do that, and here are the reasons I should have'.

Yeah i was expecting more of a hatchet job but it seems like they were giving him the rope.
Wife came off very badly, here's a plot twist- maybe she's the paymaster!
Although if she was I'd say the priest would have force fed his own Communion hosts.

[KK82]

Can someone explain why he Anglo had to lend him money to support the position he had in the CFDs? If he didn't keep funding them would his position not have just been liquidated and he'd lose whatever he'd put in? I understand that he didn't want to cut his losses and he thought it could turn around, but why was that Anglo's problem? Did he already have huge loans with them that he wouldn't be able to repay?

Also, I didn't really understand the Maple 10 aspect of it. Quinn didn't actually own any shares in the bank, so how did him gambling on CFDs affect the share price?

Cheers!

[Dice75]

Poland is en route to knockout stages based on "indiscipline points" as they're locked on points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head with Mexico. I make that they have 3 fewer yellow cards than Mexico. If they end up on the same number of cards/points (yellow=1, red=3), it will be a drawing of lots like when we knocked out the Dutch.

Plenty of time for goals, cards and drama galore.

We didnt knock the Dutch out, both had qualified. Lots were drawn to see who would be sceond and third. We ended up with Romania instead of West Germans.


In before AJ, can retire happy now.

[Raoul Duke III]

Still letting him off very light.

The Wife is some weapon, horrible nasty yoke, wallowing even deeper in the self pity than him. I thought you might have seen Quinn's mask slip a bit on the Lunny thing when he goes into that spiel of 'Why would I do that, and here are the reasons I should have'.

I know one of the talking heads very well (he literally wrote the book on Quinn). There's no remorse whatsoever.

[Denny Crane]

Can't image the Irish Times organising this for Sean Fitz immediately after Anglo implosion

[6starpool]

Gonna be great craic in 2026 when it's 16 groups of 3 and half the groups are decided on that rule.

I've seen that they are considering having penalty shootouts after every group game that ends in a draw to avoid this situation, and act as a tie breaker. They'll still need yellow cards and possibly even drawing of lots if 3 teams end on 3 points, or are all drawn and win one shootout thing each though.

[Degag]

They’ll end up making shite of the world cup by extending it to 48 teams.

And we all know why they’re doing it.

[Degag]

12 groups of 4 would work someway decently but 16 of 3 just sounds terrible

[ArmaniJeans]

12 groups of 4 would work someway decently but 16 of 3 just sounds terrible

Agreed, but 16 of 3 enables them to keep it at max 7 games per team, and to run it off in ~31 days. Which is what they've agreed with the clubs.

12 of 4 is more complicated. If you go from 48 to 32 after the groups then its 8 games for the four semi-finalists.
If you go from 48 straight down to 16 (say the 12 group winners and four best runners-up) then you risk a lot of the final group games being dead rubbers.
There's no ideal solution (obviously keeping it at 32 teams but that ship has sailed).

[DeadParrot]

[ArmaniJeans]

One vaguely interesting thing in the Mexico game which no-one on the pitch or commentary realised.

The Saudi goal in the 94rd minute didn't affect Mexico chances at all.
In fact, it was arguably better to concede the goal there and have immediate possession at the half-way line rather than start making tackles and conceding corners.

Because at 2-0 Mexico were tied with Poland on goal diff and goals scored, and losing on yellow cards. Hence, they needed 1 more goal.
But a 3-1 win would have put them ahead of Poland on goals scored. Therefore, despite the Saudi goal nothing had changed for Mexico and they just needed one more goal.

Clearly Mexico didn't realise this either and there was a bit of a heads dropped, lack of intensity feel to their play then as they thought they needed two goals.

[Degag]

One vaguely interesting thing in the Mexico game which no-one on the pitch or commentary realised.

The Saudi goal in the 94rd minute didn't affect Mexico chances at all.
In fact, it was arguably better to concede the goal there and have immediate possession at the half-way line rather than start making tackles and conceding corners.

Because at 2-0 Mexico were tied with Poland on goal diff and goals scored, and losing on yellow cards. Hence, they needed 1 more goal.
But a 3-1 win would have put them ahead of Poland on goals scored. Therefore, despite the Saudi goal nothing had changed for Mexico and they just needed one more goal.

Clearly Mexico didn't realise this either and there was a bit of a heads dropped, lack of intensity feel to their play then as they thought they needed two goals.

Yep, was rather amazed the commentary didn’t realise this. Thought it’d have been fairly obvious.

Only saw the end of the Mexico game and they did look a bit lacklustre. I don’t know how attacking they were prior to the SA goal but they should have been going gung ho seeing as it wouldn’t have mattered a jot if they scored!

[DeadParrot]

This was a good read
https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/2...AWS-Blockchain

[ArmaniJeans]

Yep, was rather amazed the commentary didn’t realise this. Thought it’d have been fairly obvious.

What gets to me is not so much that the commentators make such mistakes, that happens in the heat of the moment.
Its more that they take actual pride in not knowing what's happening or what the ramification of each goal is, and start talking about 'leaving it to the people with the calculators to sort out'.
So you had Danny Murphy who clearly didn't have a scooby what was going on winding up Steve Bower who wasn't much better but was at least making some effort with a gibbering moron beside him.
But really it's the sort of stuff they should have been on top of with a tiny bit of research pre-match.

Only saw the end of the Mexico game and they did look a bit lacklustre. I don’t know how attacking they were prior to the SA goal but they should have been going gung ho seeing as it wouldn’t have mattered a jot if they scored!

Yeah, they were gung-ho for the previous 10 minutes but then very flat after the Saudi goal.

[Solksjaer!]

The drawing of lots is pathetic way to decide a game. Yellows cards is also not great. I think a better way to decide is a questionnaire filled in pre-tournament.

Questions like
who is better Ronaldo or Messi - Obviously those who vote Ronaldo should be awarded a yellow card for not taking the whole questionnaire thing seriously.
Klopp or Pep? Etc. Then at the end of the Tournament all the players who voted Klopp or Ronaldo should appear on the big screen before the final and publicly ridiculed.

[Raoul Duke III]

Insanity in the first cricket test in Pakistan - England scoring >500 runs in a day.

[hotspur]

So you had Danny Murphy who clearly didn't have a scooby what was going on winding up Steve Bower who wasn't much better but was at least making some effort with a gibbering moron beside him.

Danny Murphy's it should be on shots on target rather than yellow cards had me spending the next two minutes imaging Poland effectively passing to the Argentina keeper from the halfway line every time they got the ball.

[Dice75]

Danny Murphy's it should be on shots on target rather than yellow cards had me spending the next two minutes imaging Poland effectively passing to the Argentina keeper from the halfway line every time they got the ball.

Lol, very true.

[Goodluck2me]

Can someone explain why he Anglo had to lend him money to support the position he had in the CFDs? If he didn't keep funding them would his position not have just been liquidated and he'd lose whatever he'd put in? I understand that he didn't want to cut his losses and he thought it could turn around, but why was that Anglo's problem? Did he already have huge loans with them that he wouldn't be able to repay?

Also, I didn't really understand the Maple 10 aspect of it. Quinn didn't actually own any shares in the bank, so how did him gambling on CFDs affect the share price?

Cheers!

Essentially when you are buying CFDs you do so on margin (levered up) so you don’t actually put in say 1m and buy a million shares, you only put down a deposit as such as some people like to take large positions without actually having to liquidate other assets they have to do so. In SQs case, when he bought that amount of Anglo, if he’d have done so in shares it would have been reported, but doing it through CFDs is not as you are not the beneficial owner of the shares you are really just buying a contract from someone to pay you an equivalent amount. Anyway, once his position became known, and hedge funds could see a) that the bank was in trouble and b) that he had such an outsized position, they can then start short-selling the actual stock, to force the share price down, which in turn would force with SQ to put up more Capital with the CFD provider (margin call) or for the CFD provider to cut his position, in turn selling more stock forcing the price down further and extended losses for SQ and gains for the short sellers. The Maple 10 I believe were allegedly lent money to buy the stake from SQ to avoid that kind of death spiral happening as once SQs positions was covered the trade disappears and the stock stabilises. My shaky memory (haven’t seen the doc) was that he kept choosing to put more capital up rather than cutting the position which exacerbated the problem, and might even have taken funds from the regulated insurance business to pay for it, but I’m not certain of the timing on that one.

[Raoul Duke III]

The leverage giveth and the leverage taketh away (everything and more in this case).

[Gimmeabreak]

the biggest news on Quinn is that QuinnBet can report 2.2m profit on 18m sportsbook turnover. Remarkable business performance. The man really is one of the top 5 or 6 business men ever to exist in Ireland (sic)

In other news QuinnBet is 92% owned by the 3rd generation so at least they will have a few quid coming in from this amazing business to help them along in life.