Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Wordle Gummidge

[Closed_Account]

To be honest I've read a million hot takes from journalists on how the government is fucking things up and nothing praising them. It's only actual people who are occasionally praising the government. So given journalists are already fully occupied only criticizing the gov on whatever grounds (real sometimes, but often flimsy), the only way we'll get the increase in criticism you want is to hire more bitter journalists from the ranks of the unemployed.

Huh.

Not getting into this with you. Perhaps we just disagree.

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[SatNav]

I've no needle with you and not sure what would give you that impression. Cant have it both ways though. You either wanted a lockdown or didnt. No point complaining when you literally get what you were crying for.

Well I changed my mind, is that OK with you?

[Closed_Account]

The point of the Leo interview there was to disseminate today's new information.

I'd have been pissed off myself if it was a grilling session, 'why didn't you do this, why did you do that' and other boloxology.

People want to know the way forward. The interview served that purpose.

Oh what the fuck Lazare, even on that criteria it did not. Leo fumbling around in his pocket for a crumbled up piece of paper???? More than.once. No production from LL of a visual break down of the plan???? Come on lads.

FWIW I think the government have done lots of things really really well. This wasnt done well, at all .

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[dobby]

Well I changed my mind, is that OK with you?

[newbie2]

Jaysus folks,

Arguments about how to cook rice, the fucking late late show and changing our minds.

This fucking lock down has us fucked.

Have a drink

The only argument worth having is when the Premier League is declared null and void.

[dobby]

Oh what the fuck Lazare, even on that criteria it did not. Leo fumbling around in his pocket for a crumbled up piece of paper???? More than.once. No production from LL of a visual break down of the plan???? Come on lads.

FWIW I think the government have done lots of things really really well. This wasnt done well, at all .

I dont like defending politicians at all but it's a 23 page document. I'd give him a pass for the piece of paper cos I'd rather see him get it right and give us the info instead of guessing and leaving more uncertainty.

[Guest]

Well I changed my mind, is that OK with you?

Perfectly reasonable imo. Such an emotive and difficult to digest time. People need to be given the latitude to do a complete U-turn without getting run down too much.

[dinekes]

Been spending like a drunken sailor of late.
Tapping like Michael Flatley on cocaine.

Bought 2 bottles of wine and a few beers yesterday naively thinking
"That will get me through tonight and Friday at least"

I can just see myself applying for a mortgage and the questions from the bank

"So these deposits to Electraworks, are they a utility company?"

"Yes"

Really? Deposits at 1am,2am and 4.56am on the same night

"So I use a lot of electricity, fuck you, give me cheap money"

Loan approved.

[DeadParrot]

Nothing to do with the announcement of the schools being off until September but I decided to inventory my remaining frog food stocks.

We have:

• 22 * Red Bordeaux (mostly good gear that requires the permission of the Chief Wine Buyer before opening)
• 6 * Red Burgundy
• 5 * other reds
• 1 bottle of De Toren Fusion V 2009 discovered down the back of the pile. The very last bottle of a stash bought from the winemaker himself in Johannesburg and smuggled home wrapped in towels robbed from the Johannesburg Hilton
• 6 * White Loire random bottles
• 6 * regional whites
• 6 * White Bordeaux
• 4 * White Alsace
• 4 * Picpoul de Pinet
• 5 bottles of sparkling, including 2 vintage Champagnes. Drinking one of those tomorrow.
• 2 bottles of dessert wine
• 2 sweet red wines (why, I have no idea)
• 3 bottles of cidre, bought from the fermier
• 1 bottle of tawny Port, donated by Lao Lao. Owe you something in return
• 13 individual tinned meals, mostly cassoulet or lentilles with Toulouse sausage
• 7 double portions of the same
• 3 jars of rillettes
• 1 jar of pate de dimanche
• 3 tins of duck in its own fat.

Will probably survive the weekend.

I have to say I'm equally fascinated and appalled in equal measure about the reverence tinned or jars of french food gets.
It's still factory processed gloop right?

[Keane]

I feel personally embarrassed every time I hear Ireland's Call. Some going for a song I have nothing to do with to be that cringe.

[Guest]

I have to say I'm equally fascinated and appalled in equal measure about the reverence tinned or jars of french food gets.
It's still factory processed gloop right?

Have you eaten them though? Some kind of magic going on.

[dinekes]

I dont like defending politicians at all but it's a 23 page document. I'd give him a pass for the piece of paper cos I'd rather see him get it right and give us the info instead of guessing and leaving more uncertainty.

Think that was for optics .
Look we have it all printed out here on this sheet.

OMG its printed out on a sheet well it must be true type thing

[newbie2]

I feel personally embarrassed every time I hear Ireland's Call. Some going for a song I have nothing to do with to be that cringe.

needs a techno beat IMO

[dinekes]

Quoted Dobby by accident

[Fullof..It]

I read that 37,000 of the claimed tests were just sent out to households, but not actually yet returned. It's a strange old logic, some would say an outright falsehood.

They raced to hit a number (to save face) without having actually converting it into it a function - surveillance and interception of the virus. They haven't connected the dots to contact tracing capability etc.

Their collective ego just keeps digging a bigger hole.

As much as I despise aul Piers hes the worse, noisy cnut you want on your tail and he wont let up on them

[dinekes]

Love Dan

Complicated life

Pick soother up
Put soother down

[dobby]

Think that was for optics .
Look we have it all printed out here on this sheet.

OMG its printed out on a sheet well it must be true type thing

but it is true. I linked it in a tweet from Gavan Reilly above, the same stuff was on the sheet he was reading from. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

[Lazare]

Oh what the fuck Lazare, even on that criteria it did not. Leo fumbling around in his pocket for a crumbled up piece of paper???? More than.once. No production from LL of a visual break down of the plan???? Come on lads.

FWIW I think the government have done lots of things really really well. This wasnt done well, at all .

Maybe a visual breakdown may have been good, but I don't think it was necessary. The format, like all LLS interviews is casual chat, simple questions that John and Mary in their cocooned living room are wondering.

I've no issue with the man checking his notes, in fact, I like that about him.

[Lazare]

Btw, After Life 2 is magical TV.

Really great show, incredibly funny and heartbreaking in equal measure.

[Guest]

Btw, After Life 2 is magical TV.

Really great show, incredibly funny and heartbreaking in equal measure.

I was just about to post how fucking awful I thought the second series was...lol.

[dinekes]

but it is true. I linked it in a tweet from Gavan Reilly above, the same stuff was on the sheet he was reading from. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

I meant to quote to jbravado

I agree with you

Gives viewers a sense that this is a solid thing, we have such a good plan we've had it printed.

I mean in terms if why he reached for the paper rather than doing it from memory.

[Lazare]

I was just about to post how fucking awful I thought the second series was...lol.

Have just watched 3 eps and love it. Some real lol moments.

The scene with his mate the sex worker eating his shit food was really good I thought.

[Guest]

Have just watched 3 eps and love it. Some real lol moments.

The scene with his mate the sex worker eating his shit food was really good I thought.

True enough. There are occasional good heartwarming bits. I won't spoiler by saying any more. All the stuff with the guy who played Dennis Pennis are some of the worst 'comedy' I've ever seen.

[Lazare]

Yeah, that character can get in the bin in fairness.

[Fullof..It]

I would like to ask where has the platform gone for actual journalistic enquiry in all this.

I'd like to ask why we the initial projections for death have been as far off as they are.

More so, I'd like those more knowledgable and impassioned than me to be given a platform to ask relevant questions and for us the generally sedated public to maybe spark into enquiry ourselves.

Should we expect more from the Late Late show than the tone and general flaccid and nauseating exchange there in this particular climate?

Fuck me. Yes. We should.

What questions would you be asking?

[Strewelpeter]

I'd like to ask why we the initial projections for death have been as far off as they are.

Which projections are they?

[oleras]

Which projections are they?

15k dead by this time i think...everyone knew what exponential meant...

[CHDad]

I feel personally embarrassed every time I hear Ireland's Call. Some going for a song I have nothing to do with to be that cringe.

Amen.

[Fullof..It]

Oh what the fuck Lazare, even on that criteria it did not. Leo fumbling around in his pocket for a crumbled up piece of paper???? More than.once. No production from LL of a visual break down of the plan???? Come on lads.

FWIW I think the government have done lots of things really really well. This wasnt done well, at all .

I haven't seen LLS but I would rather someone refer and stick to the script/plan built with positive intent than the winging it shite from other leaders.

It is a lot to take in in one go and will be a challenge to make sure it gets through to the public but hopefully Gov continues the effective communication they have done so far and break it up into digestible pieces by date/phase so it lands well

[oleras]

More than half the deaths have been in nursing homes, tell us the truth, how long did it take for that info to be public.

They could surely have handled that better from the very start, it was always going to be frail, vulnerable people that died from this, in the main.

[Strewelpeter]

15k dead by this time i think...everyone knew what exponential meant...

Am I missing something or is it still not clear that we could easily hit those numbers if we had not acted as we did?

[ArmaniJeans]

I thought it was fine - there's a time and place for difficult questions both now and in the future. The Late Late Show isn't that place.

Questions about when the GAA might start back, pubs re-open, and when we can get a haircut are trivial in the bigger picture - but they are the sort of thing people are interested in and the LLS is a good vehicle for them to be asked on.

[Guest]

Am I missing something or is it still not clear that we could easily hit those numbers if we had not acted as we did?

Nothing is clear. We have a deficit in deaths compared to a normal a year. It's an experiment where people are trying to draw conclusions after about 15% of the data has been taken.

[Fullof..It]

More than half the deaths have been in nursing homes, tell us the truth, how long did it take for that info to be public.

They could surely have handled that better from the very start, it was always going to be frail, vulnerable people that died from this, in the main.

Every country fucked this up (and still are) and would be top of the list of 'What would we do differently?'

In saying that, we had the benefit of time by looking at other countries but maybe with some much going on we missed the red flag (we still shouldn't have though)

[dobby]

Jaysus Other Voices really is class.

[Strewelpeter]

I feel personally embarrassed every time I hear Ireland's Call. Some going for a song I have nothing to do with to be that cringe.

Take a deep breath and ...<snip>

[SatNav]

specially selected mozzarella cheese bake tomato chutney and basil made for sharing (won't be sharing) in oven with cheese bread sticks for dipping ready.. Bottle of pinot noir. At 12.04 pm no wonder I'm fat!

[Solksjaer!]

Didn't watch the LLS but isnt it great our leaders aren't suggesting us to Inject ourselves with dettol. We have higher standards

[oleras]

Am I missing something or is it still not clear that we could easily hit those numbers if we had not acted as we did?

Well, we call out America as one of the worst and they hit 50 ? UK ?

Then again...not every country is counting the same, its very hard to quantify, I know nobody in Limerick has died of the virus, that's some stat ! Well, im only going on whats been reported.

[luckforsome]

Actually, when I think back on it, I spent a large portion of my summers as a kid throwing a ball against the wall and catching it on the return. The fact that the wall in question was highly uneven made the direction very unpredictable and turned me into a very good fielder. The challenge was always 100 clean catches in a row.

Makes me a bit sad not to see my own kids practicing motor skills in this way. But then you don't really see any kids doing stuff like this anymore.

I'm sure Hitch would have something cultish to say about this.

...Mine used to be a bouncy ball from bottom of the stairs to the top of stairs off the wall and catch it... Also one had 55 accurate shots of flinging elastic across the bathroom to hit the target... Actually thinking back, I used to spend all of my childhood time sand papering wood and collecting it...

[Closed_Account]

Actual language used from the interview, "did we miss a trick in the nursing homes"

If you think that's appropriate in tone, you can fuck off. I'll certainly be advising my parents in the strongest possible terms to continue to stay inside. Imagine you lost an elderly loved one and are watching that shite. No issue with going on the LL, understand it cant always be hardhiitng stuff, but where was the platform for actual media and journalists to ask questions?

I'm fucking amazed people are Ok with this, but seem to very much be in the minority.

[Fullof..It]

specially selected mozzarella cheese bake tomato chutney and basil made for sharing (won't be sharing) in oven with cheese bread sticks for dipping ready.. Bottle of pinot noir. At 12.04 pm no wonder I'm fat!

Im +4kg which equates to +6kg fat - 2kg muscle. No gym till Aug is scaring me into action or famine

[oleras]

Every country fucked this up (and still are) and would be top of the list of 'What would we do differently?'

In saying that, we had the benefit of time by looking at other countries but maybe with some much going on we missed the red flag (we still shouldn't have though)

Along with all the other red flags, not getting people to isolate after coming back from affected countries, cheltehnam etc...followers yet again rather than leaders.

Yeah...very easy for me, an armchair expert, but really, this stuff should have been basic disease control.

In the pubs by august 10 ? Again...tell the truth, we wont be doing anything of the sort till there is a vaccine.

[dobby]

specially selected mozzarella cheese bake tomato chutney and basil made for sharing (won't be sharing) in oven with cheese bread sticks for dipping ready.. Bottle of pinot noir. At 12.04 pm no wonder I'm fat!

That sounds lovely and I definitely dont have the needle with you but its 12.04AM not PM I'm joking obvs, couldnt resist

[Strewelpeter]

We have a deficit in deaths compared to a normal a year.

Whats the source for that?

[Guest]

Pretty sure I posted some of this before but

http://dai.ly/x23t6x8

Peter Cook doing 4 different characters on Clive Anderson

Including worlds greatest football manager!

[SatNav]

Im +4kg which equates to +6kg fat - 2kg muscle. No gym till Aug is scaring me into action or famine

My 15 yr old putting me to shame off sugar day 16 I think. You tube exercises 3 times, a, day, 5 k walk 5 times, a week or cycle.

Weight falling off her and me munching shite into her face. Her birthday was 16th April and a friend left roses sweets, and her fav crisps at front door. They are sitting on top of fridge untouched.

Following some wan on you tube and rightly into it.

Fair play. she says mam why don't you do
the no sugar. I will yeah I said, if you find me a sugarless alcoholic drink

[oleras]

It would be interesting to see a stat on nursing home deaths in both spain and italy, im sure governments shared this info.

[dobby]

Craft beer delivered and the dish of the week for dinner

How did this go down?

[dinekes]

My 15 yr old putting me to shame off sugar day 16 I think. You tube exercises 3 times, a, day, 5 k walk 5 times, a week or cycle.

Weight falling off her and me munching shite into her face. Her birthday was 16th April and a friend left roses sweets, and her fav crisps at front door. They are sitting on top of fridge untouched.

Following some wan on you tube and rightly into it.

Fair play. she says mam why don't you do
the no sugar. I will yeah I said, if you find me a sugarless alcoholic drink

Untouched my hole!!

You've had sneaky few sweets admit it!!

[Fullof..It]

Along with all the other red flags, not getting people to isolate after coming back from affected countries, cheltehnam etc...followers yet again rather than leaders.

Yeah...very easy for me, an armchair expert, but really, this stuff should have been basic disease control.

In the pubs by august 10 ? Again...tell the truth, we wont be doing anything of the sort till there is a vaccine.

The piece I think we missed is the a basic risk assessment. Im not sure if the initial forum had a competent one or if it was called out but other factors overruled it.

I agree and watching it in real time the examples you mention where top of the list i observed. Ive seen the members of NPHET and think there were a few gaps in the broadness of expertise.

I dont want to start a public service bashing but some standard private sector, risk assessments, business disaster recovery/continuity plans would have added so much value into this.

[SatNav]

Untouched my hole!!

You've had sneaky few sweets admit it!!

Nope promise. Would never rob a child's birthday present. I can take pic but that requires pulling out laptop to upload and I'm far too lazy for that lol.

[Fullof..It]

My 15 yr old putting me to shame off sugar day 16 I think. You tube exercises 3 times, a, day, 5 k walk 5 times, a week or cycle.

Weight falling off her and me munching shite into her face. Her birthday was 16th April and a friend left roses sweets, and her fav crisps at front door. They are sitting on top of fridge untouched.

Following some wan on you tube and rightly into it.

Fair play. she says mam why don't you do
the no sugar. I will yeah I said, if you find me a sugarless alcoholic drink

Im not sure about your circumstances but my routine is everything to me and ultimate tool in managing weight. Im still working but the pre/post work routine is gone to shite with added 2/3 bottle each night while i digest the news.

Ill be doing up plan over the weekend and dusting of the weight lifting bands that came 3 weeks ago

Once i stop the exercising its so harder to be disciplined with the cals!

[Solksjaer!]

Pretty sure I posted some of this before but

http://dai.ly/x23t6x8

Peter Cook doing 4 different characters on Clive Anderson

Including worlds greatest football manager!

Cook was a genius . The Will the wind sketch in the SPB still has me in tears

[Apache]

It would be interesting to see a stat on nursing home deaths in both spain and italy, im sure governments shared this info.

Some numbers in these articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/half-of-coronavirus-deaths-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0419/1132409-coronavirus-nursing-homes/

Also there was an interesting study posted in The New England Journal of Medecine that undertook widespread testing in a nursing facility in the US. It came to this conclusion:

Rapid and widespread transmission of SARS-CoV-2 was demonstrated in this skilled nursing facility. More than half of residents with positive test results were asymptomatic at the time of testing and most likely contributed to transmission. Infection-control strategies focused solely on symptomatic residents were not sufficient to prevent transmission after SARS-CoV-2 introduction into this facility.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2008457?query=featured_home

The reality is that these homes were sitting ducks for such an infection. I believe the authorities focus was on acute hospital capacity and residential facilities took second place. I'm sure there will be an enquiry or tribunal into this at the end of the pandemic, not that such proceedings will provide much solace for those who have lost loved ones.

[Solksjaer!]

Crystal Swing 3rd album out damn missed it for Music King

[Strewelpeter]

The piece I think we missed is the a basic risk assessment. Im not sure if the initial forum had a competent one or if it was called out but other factors overruled it.

I agree and watching it in real time the examples you mention where top of the list i observed. Ive seen the members of NPHET and think there were a few gaps in the broadness of expertise.

I dont want to start a public service bashing but some standard private sector, risk assessments, business disaster recovery/continuity plans would have added so much value into this.

Around here the private nursing homes have been worst hit.

In hindsight it would have been good to have many shittons more PPE to hand and have been able to allocate medically trained personnel to all nursing homes. As far as I know no one else managed that any better than we did.

[ArmaniJeans]

It would be interesting to see a stat on nursing home deaths in both spain and italy, im sure governments shared this info.

I think it's difficult to compare like with like on that. In Mediterranean countries there's more of a tradition of older people staying on with family in a house next door or apartment upstairs. 3 generations with their own apartment but in the same block.
The care-home isn't as common a thing as here.