Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Wordle Gummidge

[Raoul Duke III]

Tarnawa 3/1 on course, 13/2 with the books.

Would some way for DK Weld to bookend his career.

[Mellor]

Tarnawa 3/1 on course, 13/2 with the books.

Would some way for DK Weld to bookend his career.

Almost.
What a finish. 100/1 Winner?

[Raoul Duke III]

Almost.
What a finish. 100/1 Winner?

Where did that Kraut nag come from?

You could see the look of confusion on Soumillon's face when he looked across to see who had pipped him and clearly didn't recognise it.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Ep 6 of Squid Game.

Fucking hell.

Try Alice in Borderland, one of the eps will have a similar feeling.

[ComradeCollie]

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I think Vicky Ph-el-an has had some quite negative impacts on the state. Pushing dodgy medicine. The 200+ group of cervical cancer people who are largely probabilistic errors built into all probabilistic testing and yet will soak up a few hundred million from the health budget.


And yet, and yet, and yet, as she seems to sadly be entering her endgame unfortunately there is no denying that she herself is heroic. A genuine honest to god strong person who really is among the best among us. It goes beyond that horrific phrase of 'fighting cancer', to just someone who is so strong-willed she won't let go.

The obituaries, when they come in a few months, will focus on how the state wronged her. But they would nearly more appropriately focus on her strength of character.

[Wombatman]

I think Vicky Ph-el-an has had some quite negative impacts on the state. Pushing dodgy medicine. The 200+ group of cervical cancer people who are largely probabilistic errors built into all probabilistic testing and yet will soak up a few hundred million from the health budget.


And yet, and yet, and yet, as she seems to sadly be entering her endgame unfortunately there is no denying that she herself is heroic. A genuine honest to god strong person who really is among the best among us. It goes beyond that horrific phrase of 'fighting cancer', to just someone who is so strong-willed she won't let go.

The obituaries, when they come in a few months, will focus on how the state wronged her. But they would nearly more appropriately focus on her strength of character.

You need to really start fact checking your junk bro. The cervical check scandal erupted because scores of women with cervical cancer were not told that smear test results showing them to be in the clear were in fact inaccurate and the revised test results were kept from them for years.

[Strewelpeter]

[Solksjaer!]

I think Vicky Ph-el-an has had some quite negative impacts on the state. Pushing dodgy medicine. The 200+ group of cervical cancer people who are largely probabilistic errors built into all probabilistic testing and yet will soak up a few hundred million from the health budget.


And yet, and yet, and yet, as she seems to sadly be entering her endgame unfortunately there is no denying that she herself is heroic. A genuine honest to god strong person who really is among the best among us. It goes beyond that horrific phrase of 'fighting cancer', to just someone who is so strong-willed she won't let go.

The obituaries, when they come in a few months, will focus on how the state wronged her. But they would nearly more appropriately focus on her strength of character.

you are confusing maths and incompetence. The negligence has caused actual avoidable deaths . If standards are improved her death will be less tragic. My late sister suffered at the hands of negligence but not to the extent these poor ladies did . If your job is to put out fires , you dont play another hand of gin .

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Seriously lads, we are meant to be a bit smarter than that. It was been widely written about by medical experts as being largely a misunderstanding of how probability works. Not everyone - some were actually the victim of mistakes - but most of the 200+ group are not in that category.

And here's the medical science maths bit. Have a read of it before jumping up and exclaiming.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/c...isis-1.3499249

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And thats similarly why it hasn't been the same story in other countries - where the exact same stories happen - its probability not scandal - their courts don't pay out millions for probability.

There was a court case a few years ago which flabbergasted medical experts where the judge dictated that there must be 'absolute confidence' in medical tests or else the state is liable - something which is a literal impossibility. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/heal...ults-1.3880454

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

On to more mundane matters - where do those of you that still wear shirts, now buy your shirts? I could probably stretch towards around the 3 for €100 - €150 type price range - but would baulk at more than that.

[DeeBrown]

M&S "Collection" shirts are surprisingly good
if you're lucky enough to possess a body shape
which has avoided the middle age spread of
mounds and strange angles that beset us.

[Wombatman]

Seriously lads, we are meant to be a bit smarter than that. It was been widely written about by medical experts as being largely a misunderstanding of how probability works. Not everyone - some were actually the victim of mistakes - but most of the 200+ group are not in that category.

And here's the medical science maths bit. Have a read of it before jumping up and exclaiming.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/c...isis-1.3499249

You don't get it. Everyone agrees that where a woman develops cervical cancer following a false negative this is not, of itself, sufficient to prove negligence.
The failure centred on the policy on open disclosure. There must be a statutory duty of open disclosure for both individual doctors and the organisations under which they operate. An absence of definite policy on open disclosure has led to years of argument and uncertainty which cost the lives of 20 women and caused irreversible distress, upset and anger. A requirement for women affected by CervicalCheck to undertake legal proceedings to establish their medical record is totally unacceptable

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

M&S "Collection" shirts are surprisingly good
if you're lucky enough to possess a body shape
which has avoided the middle age spread of
mounds and strange angles that beset us.

The Internet tried to convince me of that also. Described them as a hidden in plainsight gem

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

You don't get it. Everyone agrees that where a woman develops cervical cancer following a false negative this is not, of itself, sufficient to prove negligence.
The failure centred on the policy on open disclosure. There must be a statutory duty of open disclosure for both individual doctors and the organisations under which they operate. An absence of definite policy on open disclosure has led to years of argument and uncertainty which cost the lives of 20 women and caused irreversible distress, upset and anger. A requirement for women affected by CervicalCheck to undertake legal proceedings to establish their medical record is totally unacceptable

It has all been well enough explained, including in that article I linked and which you didn't read. There are some cases where there were clear notification faults, but the group has expanded out to hundreds of people and billions of liabilities for what shouldn't be state liabilities even if they are awful individual stories of suffering.

[DeeBrown]

On the subject of recommending purchases,
how'd that mouse work out?

[Wombatman]

It has all been well enough explained, including in that article I linked and which you didn't read. There are some cases where there were clear notification faults, but the group has expanded out to hundreds of people and billions of liabilities for what shouldn't be state liabilities even if they are awful individual stories of suffering.

Billions you say.....?

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

On the subject of recommending purchases,
how'd that mouse work out?

It's hard to imagine there's any other mouse

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Billions you say.....?

Well I don't know. Could it reach €4m a case. Maybe - then that's a billion from the current 260 cases. Medical liability has gone crazy. €350m last year and it'll probably keep rising as every normal medical error can be worth millions. But any health system just has some errors by default. That's a few percent of all tax going on a legal system gone grotesque and unprecedented in any other country. Not even the US. We're having to shut down diagnostic services.

[AndyFatBastard]

My only advice is to make sure they are easycare shirts because ironing is the fucking worst

[oleras]

My only advice is to make sure they are easycare shirts because ironing is the fucking worst

Its OK, he has a wife.

[The Istanbul]

On to more mundane matters - where do those of you that still wear shirts, now buy your shirts? I could probably stretch towards around the 3 for €100 - €150 type price range - but would baulk at more than that.

Go onto Louis Copeland online: always great sale offers (go into virtual warehouse). loads to choose from BUT spend a few € -no point in cheap shirts with a handmade suit

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Go onto Louis Copeland online: always great sale offers (go into virtual warehouse). loads to choose from BUT spend a few € -no point in cheap shirts with a handmade suit

What is 'a few €'. As in, what's an acceptable amount?

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

@DP - I think you posted about it in the wrong bbv with your super priveleges. But the naming of 'Pandora' for the tax doc leaks is so stupid. It's far too close to Panama when written that I'd say most people think it's an old story. Or at least thats what I thought yesterday when reading about it.

[AndyFatBastard]

Its OK, he has a wife.

Why would you expose someone you love to such torment?

[oleras]

Why would you expose someone you love to such torment?

Is it not still in the vows ? ?

[Solksjaer!]

Why would you expose someone you love to such torment?

I am useless at ironing , its psychological , I trace it back to when I were a lad and tried out da mudders iron on my prized shirt my brother saw me and called me a bender/benny. I gave him the Clint Eastwood eyes then spat on the iron and pressed it down on my fancy shirt bought in Fitzgerald's in Thomas Street .(there will never be a cooler shop) . 2 seconds after a giant Ironed sized hole appeared in my shirt . I was distraught. Actually I still am MY SHIRT!!!!!!!

[The Istanbul]

What is 'a few €'. As in, what's an acceptable amount?

A cheap shirt is so obviously cheap (particularly after a couple of wears). I've just had a quick look in Louis Copeland outlet (search by shirt size). Good brands are Strenstroms, Eton. Loads there at 50%+ off

[Raoul Duke III]

A cheap shirt is so obviously cheap (particularly after a couple of wears). I've just had a quick look in Louis Copeland outlet (search by shirt size). Good brands are Strenstroms, Eton. Loads there at 50%+ off

cheap shirt <<<<< a good branded shirt <<<<<< a made to measure shirt

Denny is supposed to research this matter and revert to us urgently.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I bought this because Istanbul made me think it was a good idea. It looks a bit extravagant.

[hotspur]

Why can't we have made to measure everything in clothes from India for peanuts? Or maybe Bangladesh, they're a pretty poor country, let me check...

You could be swanning around impressing the ladies at work with this little number for only €12.50.

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[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

That is pretty swanky, but theres only a certain level of confidence could pull that off.

[coillcam]

Looking at getting an en-suite bathroom renovated and being messed around by time wasters, can't even get someone to come out and quote. Need to fit a new shower, tiling and possibly some plumbing required. I'm based in the midlands. Is anyone able to make a BBV recommendation here?

[elbows]

I bought this because Istanbul made me think it was a good idea. It looks a bit extravagant.

There is a reason it is reduced by that amount

[hotspur]

That is pretty swanky, but theres only a certain level of confidence could pull that off.

Okay so https://rulmaker.com/ in Bangladesh is where we all need to order our custom made clothes from. And to set Deebrown's mind at ease about body shape, it has this handy graphic...

Body-Type.jpg

[coillcam]

cheap shirt <<<<< a good branded shirt <<<<<< a made to measure shirt

Denny is supposed to research this matter and revert to us urgently.

I'm going to give this a shot soon if the money isn't mental. For me anyway shirts are generally awful off the rack. Either T-rex or orangutan length arms.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

There is a reason it is reduced by that amount

Probably makes it super-rare. Who else would buy that shite. One-of-a-kind by dint of good taste.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I'm going to give this a shot soon if the money isn't mental. For me anyway shirts are generally awful off the rack. Either T-rex or orangutan length arms.

The guy I bought my suit off does completely made-to-measure-from-scratch shirts. €150 a pop though.

[The Istanbul]

I bought this because Istanbul made me think it was a good idea. It looks a bit extravagant.

Nothing to see??

[DeeBrown]

Okay so https://rulmaker.com/ in Bangladesh is where we all need to order our custom made clothes from. And to set Deebrown's mind at ease about body shape, it has this handy graphic...

Body-Type.jpg

I didn't even make the chart!!!

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Nothing to see??

You can't see it? Are you blind. You're missing out.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

[elbows]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

Adaptation and Matchstick men are probably my 2 favs

[ComradeCollie]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

Wild at Heart is a Nick Cage movie that still stands out.

Woody Allen is a bit more difficult, what with the paedo accusations. Some of the jokes just aren't funny or even acceptable anymore. Re-watched 'Hannah and her Sisters' recently and I still love it.

[balfejohn]

Looking at getting an en-suite bathroom renovated and being messed around by time wasters, can't even get someone to come out and quote. Need to fit a new shower, tiling and possibly some plumbing required. I'm based in the midlands. Is anyone able to make a BBV recommendation here?

What part of the midlands young man
i might have a few contacts

[Emmet]

Con Air is spectacularly good

[ionapaul]

@DP - I think you posted about it in the wrong bbv with your super priveleges. But the naming of 'Pandora' for the tax doc leaks is so stupid. It's far too close to Panama when written that I'd say most people think it's an old story. Or at least thats what I thought yesterday when reading about it.

Yep, I made that mistake yesterday too...

[hotspur]

His latest film Pig is brilliant imo.

[Emmet]

topical

[shrapnel]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

love leaving las vegas personally. also love Birdy (soundtrack is brilliant also), bad lieutenant (new orleans) and lord of war.

seen a lot of woody allen, and am not really a fan in general although i really liked sleeper and bullets over broadway, although not seen them for aaaaages so they might have aged really badly

[eamonhonda]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

I remember Lord of War as being v good

[Goodluck2me]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

Face off…

[The Istanbul]

Captain Corellis Mandolin (for Penelope)

[Lao Lao]

I bought this because Istanbul made me think it was a good idea. It looks a bit extravagant.

I'd stay clear of Solks's brother wearing that!

[coillcam]

What part of the midlands young man
i might have a few contacts

Cheers, I'm in Mullingar.

This is great, haven't been called a young man in ages. I'll be getting carded at the pub next

[Lao Lao]

I'm pretty sure I've posted this before but there is a really simple hack to ironing shirts that always works.

At the end of a working week, you take the 5 worn shirts, drop them into your local dry cleaner and they wash and iron all five of them for €10.

It's super simple

[Wombatman]

Had an niggling idea of wanting to watch some Nicholas Cage movies. There's Leaving Las Vegas, there's the classic bad movies, but are there some truly brilliant movies? I suspect some of his earlier stuff is genius. But maybe those movies have aged badly. In a different genre, I tried to watch Caddyshack recently, and it was painfully bad due to aging.

Also have the same question for Woody Allen movies. Could never really get into them, but suspect there are some proper gems there.

Mandy and Raising Arizona are stonking good flicks.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

A beautiful level of patronizing from the school on how to get the kids into school on time.



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[Wombatman]

I liked The Purple Rose of Cairo. The HBO documentary Allen v. Farrow is well worth a watch although a bit unbalanced.