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    Was around in someones house for lunch yesterday and jaysus their hands were shaking like mad. Either extreme alcohol withdrawal or parkinsons. Wasn't sure where to look. But no-ones hands should be shaking like that. yikes. I wonder if he's just spent his lockdown drinking himself into a stupor. Probably a better result than parkinsons anyway.
    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
      Was around in someones house for lunch yesterday and jaysus their hands were shaking like mad. Either extreme alcohol withdrawal or parkinsons. Wasn't sure where to look. But no-ones hands should be shaking like that. yikes. I wonder if he's just spent his lockdown drinking himself into a stupor. Probably a better result than parkinsons anyway.
      Probably just intimidated by being in the presence of the world-leading NFT guru?
      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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        Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
        Was around in someones house for lunch yesterday and jaysus their hands were shaking like mad. Either extreme alcohol withdrawal or parkinsons. Wasn't sure where to look. But no-ones hands should be shaking like that. yikes. I wonder if he's just spent his lockdown drinking himself into a stupor. Probably a better result than parkinsons anyway.
        Ah here Hitch . There are many conditions that lead to the hand shakes . A guy I work with has it. Its hereditary for him. No drugs Parkinson's etc.

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          Maybe they hate breaking the law and you being at his gaf when it's against the law was terrifying?

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            Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

            Ah here Hitch . There are many conditions that lead to the hand shakes . A guy I work with has it. Its hereditary for him. No drugs Parkinson's etc.
            ah no i know him well over the years, very well, never noticed anything before. So its a new thing anyway. I suspect there's no good reason why you need to physically steady your hand with your other hand in order to be able to grip something.
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              Originally posted by Emmet View Post
              Maybe they hate breaking the law and you being at his gaf when it's against the law was terrifying?
              you'll have to get used to the lawbreaking now you're back. Ireland is not an episode of The Bill.
              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                I don't have access to Indo Premium to read the full story, but this is a generally fascinating story from what I've read of it before. Did anyone ever hear any rumours about it?
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                  We're definitely at the top of the EU covid stats now. And seems like next week is the one where we move to the vaccination centre as being the main means of jabbage.

                  140k vaccinations last week, 170k this - should be easily doing 250-300k p/w by mid-May.
                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                    you'll have to get used to the lawbreaking now you're back. Ireland is not an episode of The Bill.
                    Think this may have been coming a while... the constant need to say ex-po-nen-tial to a bloke who explains squiggly graphs for a living and all...

                    But anyway, congratulations on taking the throne off "All new and improved", mature(?) Dobby

                    Seriously 6Star... you're killing me here

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                      Sorry Dobbs, I know how much you cherished holding that title, but with maturity we must leave behind the follies of youth and all that
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                        Originally posted by balfejohn View Post

                        Can put you in touch with a plumber
                        what part of Kildare you in sir
                        In Maynooth - that would be great

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                            LOL chavball
                            Turning millions into thousands

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                              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                              LOL chavball
                              maybe someone could mock up ManU sitting on the dead carcass (is dead redundant there?) of the English Premier League.
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                                Originally posted by RichieM View Post

                                In Maynooth - that would be great
                                Pm me your number and I will get him to contact u

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                                  Mortgage approval in principal through finally. Now to do the same thing in 6 months when we can't find anything we can afford

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                                    From a Spurs forum:

                                    Spurs joining this super league is like Banana-man joining the Avengers.

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                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                      We're definitely at the top of the EU covid stats now. And seems like next week is the one where we move to the vaccination centre as being the main means of jabbage.

                                      140k vaccinations last week, 170k this - should be easily doing 250-300k p/w by mid-May.
                                      200k = 5% of the eligible population. And we're moving towards only first doses now. So we probably have the next ten weeks or so where at least 5% of the population are being jabbed every week. It'll be over quick enough. The only scary thing is that summer is just about to start, and in my head it was only just Christmas.
                                      "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                        Why weren't PSG asked to join, I'd have thought with their owners they'd be near the top of the list?

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                                          Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                          Why weren't PSG asked to join, I'd have thought with their owners they'd be near the top of the list?
                                          They and Bayern bailed. They are obviously happy monopolising their home leagues .

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                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                            200k = 5% of the eligible population. And we're moving towards only first doses now. So we probably have the next ten weeks or so where at least 5% of the population are being jabbed every week. It'll be over quick enough. The only scary thing is that summer is just about to start, and in my head it was only just Christmas.
                                            In my head it just been 1999 .

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                                              absolutely solks. Thats the bigger existential worry.
                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                I enrolled in rouxbe:

                                                https://rouxbe.com/

                                                Online cooking courses. Looks highly promising. Read quite a lot beforehand and it was quite consistent that rouxbe are a million miles ahead of everyone else.
                                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                  I enrolled in rouxbe:

                                                  https://rouxbe.com/

                                                  Online cooking courses. Looks highly promising. Read quite a lot beforehand and it was quite consistent that rouxbe are a million miles ahead of everyone else.
                                                  Sounds like they are quite behind, it's not even all porn yet.

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                                                    Not a Labour fan I guess




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                                                      Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post

                                                      Sounds like they are quite behind, it's not even all porn yet.
                                                      ha, yeah. They do they have the ability to do their entire course just in plant-based alternatives.
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                                                        That's the first I've heard of Keir Starmer

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                                                          Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                          Why weren't PSG asked to join, I'd have thought with their owners they'd be near the top of the list?
                                                          Something to do with DAZN having the Champions League rights in France whilst also having some involvement directly with PSG i heard.

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                                                            Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post

                                                            It is just a side thing (though if warranted my partner would work full time), basically an online retailer of vegan goods from small local and bigger businesses.
                                                            Have an audience base already that will buy from us due to social media presence, have experienced constant demand for this kinda thing and know products they'd want (that they can't get in general). Have a working relationship with a lot of businesses already as they approach us for PR work, so give it a whirl anyway! Would like to stock things from the UK too, so let's see how that goes...
                                                            that's a whopper idea tbh
                                                            There's a local place here that sells some vegan stuff and general 'artsy' food for a frankly ridiculous markup (harry's close to a tenner etc)
                                                            that does a ton of business.
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                                                              Originally posted by Degag View Post

                                                              Something to do with DAZN having the Champions League rights in France whilst also having some involvement directly with PSG i heard.
                                                              Isn't PSG in bed with Uefa and Aleksander Ceferin?
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                                                                Was around to the brother yesterday. Really struggling with clinical depression,which was diagnosed a couple of months ago. Struggling to sleep at all at night. Has started on antidepressants but hasn't settled into a drug or dose yet. He is doing a session a week with a psychiatrist. He is still managing to function at work. Hadn't been over much because of the lockdown but I got a bit of a shock at his behavior yesterday. My daughter 15 was with me and she commented on how he seemed well of form, coming away from the house, and her not having been told about his condition.

                                                                This time last year, he would be the last person in the world, one would bet on to become depressed.

                                                                Had a good chat with him today and he said he was really struggling. Exhausted tired all the time, confused, forgetful, and beset by negative black moods. Spoke of felling numb and bereft of any happiness.

                                                                Lives in a small chaotic house with the wife and five children. The eldest 22, is autistic and has been very troublesome during lockdown. His wife, pure saint, has admitted she is struggling to cope too.

                                                                I'm very worried about him. Wondering what I can do. Have offered to go walking with him in the evening during the week, but he wouldn't commit to that. Has anybody any experience with this or any suggestions? Fully prepared to drop everything, and take him away from it all for a few months, if necessary.

                                                                Something similar happened to my father. Sailed through life until he retired. 2 years later we noticed he was showing some classic sings of depression, but put 2 + 2 together a bit late. After 2 more years of struggling with depression, he killed himself.

                                                                Sorry to be bringing this here, but this I have found this place to be a good sounding board.
                                                                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                  Wombatman, unfortunately I can offer nothing but my best wishes. I hope things take a swing for the better soon.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                    Was around to the brother yesterday. Really struggling with clinical depression,which was diagnosed a couple of months ago. Struggling to sleep at all at night. Has started on antidepressants but hasn't settled into a drug or dose yet. He is doing a session a week with a psychiatrist. He is still managing to function at work. Hadn't been over much because of the lockdown but I got a bit of a shock at his behavior yesterday. My daughter 15 was with me and she commented on how he seemed well of form, coming away from the house, and her not having been told about his condition.
                                                                    Sounds like they are doing the right things. One thing I remember from a similar family episode was to check up on them - are they are actually taking their drugs, are they actually keeping their appointments, are they accurately describing their symptoms if they are keeping appointments?

                                                                    In our case she wasn't, and no-one ever found out until afterwards. Apparently this is quite common.
                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                      I'm very worried about him. Wondering what I can do. Have offered to go walking with him in the evening during the week, but he wouldn't commit to that. Has anybody any experience with this or any suggestions? Fully prepared to drop everything, and take him away from it all for a few months, if necessary.
                                                                      I'd suggest just calling around to him uninvited occasionally.

                                                                      I know when I've been in the depths of depression every decade or so, the coming out of it was as random as the getting into it.

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                                                                        CC's idea about calling in randomly and unannounced sounds good. As is your idea about getting out for walks, do you think you could cajole him into that maybe?

                                                                        You're a great brother btw.
                                                                        I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                          Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                          CC's idea about calling in randomly and unannounced sounds good. As is your idea about getting out for walks, do you think you could cajole him into that maybe?

                                                                          You're a great brother btw.
                                                                          Yeah, I meant just calling around and trying to get him to go for a walk. I know the last time I was suicidal(which lasted for 3 months), the notion of planning to do something tomorrow, or next week, just wasn't a possibility.
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                                                                            Best wishes to your brother wombat, look into if something like this might help with the sleep
                                                                            Different thing entirely by I was having trouble sleeping a while ago (posted in here at all hours o'clock a few times) and these videos really helped
                                                                            Headphones in, phone to the side of pillow and off I'd go
                                                                            *Judging by the positive comments on these videos they helping a lot of people so might be worth a try



                                                                             
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                                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                              Sounds like they are doing the right things. One thing I remember from a similar family episode was to check up on them - are they are actually taking their drugs, are they actually keeping their appointments, are they accurately describing their symptoms if they are keeping appointments?

                                                                              In our case she wasn't, and no-one ever found out until afterwards. Apparently this is quite common.
                                                                              I remember that . I often wondered what happened in the end but thought it might be too raw . I guess after all the years I can ask. What happened? Feel free to ignore.


                                                                              Wombatman. Just keep the communications going as best you can. We all get wrapped up in our own lives and forget to pick up the phone. Be good if you can find something to plan together . (Dont forget his missus though)

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                                                                                Originally posted by Elshambles View Post
                                                                                Best wishes to your brother wombat, look into if something like this might help with the sleep
                                                                                Different thing entirely by I was having trouble sleeping a while ago (posted in here at all hours o'clock a few times) and these videos really helped
                                                                                Headphones in, phone to the side of pillow and off I'd go


                                                                                Would that not make you be bursting for a slash?
                                                                                "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                  If you want a story about real football and real people you could do worse than watch the Derry City documentary on BBC 2.

                                                                                  It's easy to forget all clubs once had stories like that before they became the playthings of the rich, a dead-end of entitlement and shallow branded revenue stream experiences.

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                                                                                    Originally posted by BennyHiFi View Post
                                                                                    If you want a story about real football and real people you could do worse than watch the Derry City documentary on BBC 2.

                                                                                    It's easy to forget all clubs once had stories like that before they became the playthings of the rich, a dead-end of entitlement and shallow branded revenue stream experiences.
                                                                                    Was just looking for that

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                                                                                      Wombatman my only addition to the comments so far is don't ask him to commit to evening walks, you commit to it.
                                                                                      Best of luck with it man.
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                                                                                        Just do what you can to help, Wombatman. Even if that's just material things, it makes a difference.
                                                                                        "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                                                          Originally posted by BennyHiFi View Post
                                                                                          the playthings of the rich, a dead-end of entitlement and shallow branded revenue stream experiences.
                                                                                          Funny thing about watching some of the smugness about this from rugger heads is their sport is all of the above from the top down to the grassroots

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                                                                                            Wombatman, if it were my brother this is what I would do. I would convince him to do some therapy, I don't know what the session a week with the psychiatrist is, but they rarely do psychotherapy.

                                                                                            I would explain that usually when you are depressed you stop doing things. Motivation is grounded in reward, a basic behavioural principle. Think when you are training a dog and you want him to sit, he sits and you give him a treat. That makes him more likely to sit in the future, i.e. he is more motivated to sit due to having received a reward for it. We are like that too. When you stop doing things you stop experiencing the reward that comes with it. Thus motivation starts to slip away. It can go very, very low in depression.

                                                                                            Now most of us most of the time when deciding whether we will do something ask ourselves "Do I feel like doing it?" This is the rule we often use. And this works fairly well most of the time. This does not work when you are depressed. You don't feel like doing anything, and so if you stick to the rule of only doing something if you feel like it then you will never experience the rewards of doing things which then raises motivation to do things. You're stuck.

                                                                                            So when you're depressed you have to drop that rule of doing something only if you feel like it. What you need to do is write a list (you can help with this) of things that you have gotten pleasure from in the past or have given you a sense of accomplishment (i.e. meaning). Then you start to schedule doing things based on that. Specific things at a specific times in the week. And then, when that time comes you do that thing completely regardless of whether you feel like doing it or not. This is crucial. You do what you have scheduled irrespective of motivation, mood, energy, etc.

                                                                                            This results in behaviour that is pleasurable or gives a sense of accomplishment (even if at the time it doesn't subjectively feel hugely pleasurable), and this is rewarding and it builds motivation to act in these ways again, even if it builds it slowly. This is how to get out of depression at the behavioural level.

                                                                                            Now being depressed also affects our cognition and leads to a general negative triad of thinking negatively about ourselves, the world, and the future. These negative cognitions are kept going by certain cognitive distortions, and it can be helpful to be aware of them so that we can catch ourselves. Here is such a list of them.

                                                                                            The self-help book I give to people for depression is this excellent one and I would recommend buying for your brother.

                                                                                            Everyone's depression is different in some ways. There may be very specific things with your brother in his environment and / or within him that need to be addressed. Maybe you can find that out. It also strikes me that it may be that others in his family need help, and if so is there a role for you there with the eldest son or the mother?

                                                                                            This is a very difficult thing to talk about but since you mention your father's suicide. There are two things which predict suicidal behaviour. The first is a sense of being a burden to others, that they would be better off without you. It is helpful to counteract these and let a person know how much they are valued and not a burden. The second is gradually acquiring desensitisation to a specific method of harming oneself that can be lethal.

                                                                                            I would ask him if he has thought about killing himself, and if so if he has a plan. My own approach to talking with a suicidal person has been to go into it at depth, just how bad they're feeling, why they might want to put an end to it, allow the space for that with empathy and holding back to allow any such thoughts or feelings to come up into the light and be expressed. It can make a big difference admitting all of that to someone. Then after enough time with that I would broaden the conversation out, usually with some humour believe it or not about the shitness of life or something vaguely ridiculous in it all. And I would connect the person to something within them that they love or have been passionate about. Something to do with life.

                                                                                            But sometimes also a person may just not be safe, and it becomes necessary to keep them safe. They may need to go into an inpatient setting. I have even called the Gardai to come and get someone in danger.

                                                                                            Finally look after yourself too in all of this. I'm sorry to hear about your dad. I can only imagine what any of this with your brother may be bringing up for you. So bringing a kindly awareness to how this is for you, sharing it, and getting support you need too in facing this. And you can't always do what you would wish to for a person, sometimes you can only do so much.

                                                                                            I wish you all well with it Wombatman.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                              Would that not make you be bursting for a slash?
                                                                                              Not as of yet....and if I start to now, I'm blaming you
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                                                                                                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                are they are actually taking their drugs, are they actually keeping their appointments, are they accurately describing their symptoms if they are keeping appointments?
                                                                                                That seems like top practical advice - Make sure he's getting the professional help thats available to him.

                                                                                                Remember the doc when I said something to her about meditation - (and similarly the walks idea) - she said - its no good. You are too far into depression we need a way to get you out of it. Meditation and exercise etc are for lifes natural lulls, while serious clinical depression needs serious clinical help. I think there's maybe a natural thing where we think someone can get out of this with the way we shake things off, and it comes from a great place (and is clearly no harm either), but every drug taken, every appointment used successfully, is probably the biggest win in this situation.

                                                                                                Best wishes.
                                                                                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                  Hope all works out well for him Wombatman.

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                                                                                                    wow thats excellent hotspur. really brilliant.
                                                                                                    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by PSV58 View Post

                                                                                                      Funny thing about watching some of the smugness about this from rugger heads is their sport is all of the above from the top down to the grassroots
                                                                                                      But but but that area of New Zealand, the islands we rob all our players from and that bit of Wales are full of poor people who rugger
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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                        I get the feeling the soccer powers that be consider the fans to be an inconvenience - with some honourable exceptions like Germany, where the clubs are owned by the fans and ticket prices are kept low. English soccer sold its soul many years ago and I don't know how any fan could keep going to games with the financial mugging that entails.
                                                                                                        You get the feeling the people who make the prices consider the people who spend their money an inconvenience?

                                                                                                        You think Germany where the system benefits Bayern more than anyone else is the exception? Germany is held back by these fans and now they all throw a strop at Leipzig doing what you can do to be successful.

                                                                                                        English soccer did something in the early 90s that every other national association wishes they did the first.

                                                                                                        Its been cheaper for me to day trip Chelsea than half day Lansdowne Road on quite a few occasions.

                                                                                                        I make last orders back in my local in Kilcoole easily when going to a 3pm game in London. I never make it when hitting a 7.45pm in Dublin using public transport and London is still cheaper most of the time!

                                                                                                        You're wrong m8

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by CHDad View Post

                                                                                                          You get the feeling the people who make the prices consider the people who spend their money an inconvenience?
                                                                                                          100%. Look who the owners are.

                                                                                                          'English soccer' as a phrase is a hollow joke.
                                                                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                            So sorry to hear your brother is struggling Wombatman, this is putting you under a lot of stress also and on edge, when a text message isn't replied to straight away if can be very stressful, wouldn't hurt for you to have a chat with someone also. hotspurs advice as always is the best. Best of luck with everything.
                                                                                                            This too shall pass.

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                                                                                                              wha?

                                                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                Database guru types
                                                                                                                college course, design a database for a dentist type project...all good

                                                                                                                30% of marks... demonstrate codds 12 rules to prove database is relational *(not his normalization stuff)
                                                                                                                With accompanied rules that look like the have been roughly translated from Hindi (their defacto youtube language of choice)

                                                                                                                eehh...whole internet seems to be ignoring these rules from the past designed to fight fake rdbs that no longer exist

                                                                                                                Can a kindly database guru point me in the direction of a simple (with examples if possible) breakdown of the rules
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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                  wha?

                                                                                                                  I seem to have deleted my reply while trying to edit it

                                                                                                                  Anyway I think this proves that one study, by one person, with one bias opinion, on one set of data should not be published and treated as fact.

                                                                                                                  Like that paper the Tories keep waving around as proof everything will be great...written by two lads at London business college, one a Hong Kong student and the other apparently a bit of a Toryboy... apparently

                                                                                                                  All medical science says they get worse because x, y and z

                                                                                                                  Anyhu...one comment on the tweet is good, if this study is true it just proves that kids today are lightweights

                                                                                                                  I look forward to the retraction in 25 years when all the 20 year olds call him and say it's gotten worse
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                                                                                                                    Thanks lads Really appreciate the feedback, Hotspur in particular. Will take the time to digest that one and put to use. He is planning on therapy sessions but feels he is so confused and forgetful now, that it would be of little value. He said he is going to wait until the meds kick in properly.

                                                                                                                    He said he did 6 laps of the local track last night, his first proper exercise in two months. We are trending positive anyway.
                                                                                                                    Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                                                      On the subject of depression. I stumbled upon this blog 10+ years ago. It turned out subsequently that I had a mutual friend with the author. The Blog essentially finished with the author telling the reader about depression. She subsequently published a few books, the last one named "solutions and others problems". The author has an exceptional way of describing things and her (at the time) final blog describing depression was just about one of the best things I've ever read. I have a friend who is a clinical psychiatrist in London who holds a similar view and she told me she often linked the blog to some of her patients and their families by way of imparting understanding. I've definitely linked it here before on more than one occasion but if you've not read it before then I can assure you it is worth your time. In fact even if you have read it before it is still worth reading again.

                                                                                                                      http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co...-part-two.html

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                                                                                                                          I was thinking about the champions league and the threat to ban the 3 clubs before the semi's

                                                                                                                          They shouldn't do this, not fair on PSG to win it dirty, let PSG (PSG are the fucking good guys, Jesus Christ) try and win it and cancel it as soon as they get knocked out

                                                                                                                          If PSG lose the final, hand them the losers medals on the podium, get the winning team to queue to the side of the podium and then have a bunch of lads come on the pitch,
                                                                                                                          take the plinth apart and have whomever is presenting the trophy walk off down the tunnel with it


                                                                                                                          ...I should probably be spending my time giving it the auld Indiana Jones on the ancient text of the database rather than this shite
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