Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Lockdown City

[eamonhonda]

Two numbers to focus on are hospital\ICU cases and vaccinations.

We're quite close to being able to say that anyone getting covid today almost certainly won't die, given who's been vaccinated so far.

Yeah case numbers are an indication of how its spreading. But the comparisons saying we are x times the number of cases back during the first peak hurts my head when the testing is completely different. The walk in symptom free testing centres are a great thing of course, but comparing the resulting cases to a time when we werent testing the same type of people, who would have sat at home asymptomatic, creates unnecessary panic, and the media will run with it.

[Raoul Duke III]

Yeah case numbers are an indication of how its spreading. But the comparisons saying we are x times the number of cases back during the first peak hurts my head when the testing is completely different. The walk in symptom free testing centres are a great thing of course, but comparing the resulting cases to a time when we werent testing the same type of people, who would have sat at home asymptomatic, creates unnecessary panic, and the media will run with it.

As well, case numbers in a time when vaccinations are being rolled out <> case numbers when no vaccines were available

IMO (as the great health data expert I obviously am ), the danger of 'the health service being overwhelmed' is now close to 0% and that should now be factored into decision making.

[ArmaniJeans]

Suez canal up and running again - you'd fill a bit foolish if you were one of the ships who panicked and went the Cape of Good Pirates route.

[Raoul Duke III]

Suez canal up and running again - you'd fill a bit foolish if you were one of the ships who panicked and went the Cape of Good Pirates route.

what's the round trip sailing from Suez to Rotterdam vs going through the canal? must easily be 10,000km extra (he said wth no backup at all)

[Wombatman]

Loaded up on IAG shares there. If they don't get back to €5 before the end of the year convert everything to random NFTs.

[Raoul Duke III]

Looks like easily an extra 18,000km or so

[ArmaniJeans]

Looks like easily an extra 18,000km or so

They say 9000K saving for London, so a bit more for Rotterdam (x 2 obviously for your round trip).
Obviously we were all reading up on it a bit because it was in the news - I was fascinated by the fees for what is effectively a toll road.
I had a figure in my head for how much it would cost to travel, I was way off.
For anyone who wants to guess before the answer

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my guess was around $10K depending on size of ship, turns out the average toll is $250K. Makes the port tunnel seem a bargain at €10.

[Raoul Duke III]

Loaded up on IAG shares there. If they don't get back to €5 before the end of the year convert everything to random NFTs.

Is there a reason you went for IAG specifically, vs Ryanair or indeed a basket of airlines?

[ComradeCollie]

Ha, I was way out guessing

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$600k

[Wombatman]

Is there a reason you went for IAG specifically, vs Ryanair or indeed a basket of airlines?

Looks undervalued. Not totally in hock to government bailouts because of the rights issue. In a good position to pressure struggling Virgin. Opportunistically used pandemic to sort some legacy staff issues. Analyst ratings good.

Ryanair has already recovered back to pre-covid price.

[GMoran1]

Is there a reason you went for IAG specifically, vs Ryanair or indeed a basket of airlines?

Whats the best way for a beginner start trading? I know the likes of revolut etc but is the best approach to open an account with the likes of Davy?

[Dice75]

Whats the best way for a beginner start trading? I know the likes of revolut etc but is the best approach to open an account with the likes of Davy?

Hitch put me onto Degiro and used the App - pretty straightforward even for a technophobe like me. PS gimme a clue as to who you are as i believe i know you.

[GMoran1]

Hitch put me onto Degiro and used the App - pretty straightforward even for a technophobe like me. PS gimme a clue as to who you are as i believe i know you.

TY Sir, will give this a go. I've def played with you in JP's at some point

[RichieM]

As well, case numbers in a time when vaccinations are being rolled out <> case numbers when no vaccines were available

IMO (as the great health data expert I obviously am ), the danger of 'the health service being overwhelmed' is now close to 0% and that should now be factored into decision making.

I think linking opening to vaccine roll out milestones rather than positive cases would be a good change of direction and give a bit more hope to the population.

Essentially the same thing but phrased differently - the current message has lost any meaning.

[Raoul Duke III]

I think linking opening to vaccine roll out milestones rather than positive cases would be a good change of direction and give a bit more hope to the population.

Essentially the same thing but phrased differently - the current message has lost any meaning.

yes, we're on the same track.

Although it's a horrible fine line for the government to try to walk, I don't envy them

[AndyFatBastard]

I think linking opening to vaccine roll out milestones rather than positive cases would be a good change of direction and give a bit more hope to the population.

Essentially the same thing but phrased differently - the current message has lost any meaning.

The trouble is we don't know exactly what success will look like in that regard. Ideally we'd see cases stay roughly stable but hospitalisations plummet. Hopefully we'll get good date from the UK's opening up starting today, but there will still remain a huge number of unknowns.

[RichieM]

The trouble is we don't know exactly what success will look like in that regard. Ideally we'd see cases stay roughly stable but hospitalisations plummet. Hopefully we'll get good date from the UK's opening up starting today, but there will still remain a huge number of unknowns.

We don’t but waiting until figures hit zero isn’t really plausible, getting rid of COVID globally or even locally completely won’t happen even once the vaccine is fully rolled out.

They don’t really need to promise much, like just going for once the 65’s are done we all get to go for a hair cut, Small promises that are inevitably coming anyway and if numbers actually fall then they can throw in a few more bonus’s.

Obv pubs, gigs and big sporting events are miles away.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

I think we can take a positive enough view of this, despite all being exhausted by lockdown. Some new openings happening this week. Probably some more in a months time (end of April - more or less everything open except pubs and restaurants), then pubs and restaurants open a month at end of May, then whatever the fuck a month open by the end of June. So there's positive new steps happening each month after three months of nothingness, and within three months it'll be more or less fully over for all intents and purposes.

[Wombatman]

Move aside NFTs. Anyone manage to get a pair of very limited edition Satan shoes?

https://satan.shoes/

[Lao Lao]

what's the round trip sailing from Suez to Rotterdam vs going through the canal? must easily be 10,000km extra (he said wth no backup at all)

You're adding about 3500 nautical miles by going round the Cape rather than through the Suez.

In addition to time, probably an additional 7+ days, you also have the issue of piracy of both side of Africa which can be a big issue.

Thank fuck, they got the vessel re-floated today, will still take up to a week to clear the back log and could impact supply chains for the next 6-8 weeks but at least we're moving again.

[BennyHiFi]

Congratulations to Shrapnel, for winning consecutive Music Kings. He beat Ed for the second year in a row (and I think this one is gonna hurt) while PSV played a strong game too.

Some great music on offer and I doubt it'll be another year before we do it again.

Well played all.

[Solksjaer!]

I think we can take a positive enough view of this, despite all being exhausted by lockdown. Some new openings happening this week. Probably some more in a months time (end of April - more or less everything open except pubs and restaurants), then pubs and restaurants open a month at end of May, then whatever the fuck a month open by the end of June. So there's positive new steps happening each month after three months of nothingness, and within three months it'll be more or less fully over for all intents and purposes.

meanwhile .

Separately, emerging reports that
Gardai are investigating Munster Rugby for making an entirely unnecessary trip to the RDS.

[Wombatman]

Suez canal up and running again - you'd fill a bit foolish if you were one of the ships who panicked and went the Cape of Good Pirates route.

[Raoul Duke III]

The Reagan assassination attempt was 40 years ago today. Probably surprising there hasn't been any serious effort since.

[hotspur]

The Reagan assassination attempt was 40 years ago today. Probably surprising there hasn't been any serious effort since.

Well he's been dead these17 years now, so any more recent efforts would be more frivolous than serious.

[Strewelpeter]

The Reagan assassination attempt was 40 years ago today. Probably surprising there hasn't been any serious effort since.

Wow! I was in Athens and remember seeing a photo on a newspaper front page of him having been shot, I went off to Crete via a couple of Islands and it was only when I came home in May that I noticed he had survived it.

[Raoul Duke III]

Well he's been dead these17 years now, so any more recent efforts would be more frivolous than serious.

This lockdown has been going on way too long. Please do better.

On a related note, has anyone ever been to a presidential library? Kinda imagine they don't see much traffic but maybe there are hordes of avid amateur historians who can think of no finer thing to do with their holidays than to trek to the Richard Milhous Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda and marvel at the wonders therein.

[Raoul Duke III]

In fairness to the Nixon library, it doesn't seem like they've shied away from the episode he is remembered for

[PSV58]

When this pandemic is over I think we should all look back on the Matt Damon in Dalkey story last year as the single most shameful episode from the entire pandemic.
The fawning boot licking coverage was a national disgrace, we are better than that as a country

[Strewelpeter]

No 2 prospective son in law started work in a new job last year in a rapidly growing company, decent package with share options to kick in after 12 months he's happy with the job and seems to be doing well. Yesterday they were told that the company founder is being bought out, minimum 40K bonus for everyone who has options, he's there 10 months, puketastic. He's bull thick and I guess you can't blame him. They are about to start building a house and it would have made a nice start to that.

[Solksjaer!]

This lockdown has been going on way too long. Please do better.

On a related note, has anyone ever been to a presidential library? Kinda imagine they don't see much traffic but maybe there are hordes of avid amateur historians who can think of no finer thing to do with their holidays than to trek to the Richard Milhous Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda and marvel at the wonders therein.

Tough gig BBV. Belly laugh imo

[Solksjaer!]

No 2 prospective son in law started work in a new job last year in a rapidly growing company, decent package with share options to kick in after 12 months he's happy with the job and seems to be doing well. Yesterday they were told that the company founder is being bought out, minimum 40K bonus for everyone who has options, he's there 10 months, puketastic. He's bull thick and I guess you can't blame him. They are about to start building a house and it would have made a nice start to that.

Ah sure half would have gone on tax .

[Raoul Duke III]

No 2 prospective son in law started work in a new job last year in a rapidly growing company, decent package with share options to kick in after 12 months he's happy with the job and seems to be doing well. Yesterday they were told that the company founder is being bought out, minimum 40K bonus for everyone who has options, he's there 10 months, puketastic. He's bull thick and I guess you can't blame him. They are about to start building a house and it would have made a nice start to that.

They'll probably end up doing 'something' for him - I've seen this before where thresholds were set and then management threw in sweetners for the staff below.

In fairness though, 10 months, WTF do you expect really.

[Solksjaer!]

When this pandemic is over I think we should all look back on the Matt Damon in Dalkey story last year as the single most shameful episode from the entire pandemic.
The fawning boot licking coverage was a national disgrace, we are better than that as a country

Too much Good Will ?

[Dice75]

When this pandemic is over I think we should all look back on the Matt Damon in Dalkey story last year as the single most shameful episode from the entire pandemic.
The fawning boot licking coverage was a national disgrace, we are better than that as a country

I did like that someone suggested to name that Walrus who fell asleep on an iceberg and ended up in Kerry

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"Fatt Damon"

[Iago]

No 2 prospective son in law started work in a new job last year in a rapidly growing company, decent package with share options to kick in after 12 months he's happy with the job and seems to be doing well. Yesterday they were told that the company founder is being bought out, minimum 40K bonus for everyone who has options, he's there 10 months, puketastic. He's bull thick and I guess you can't blame him. They are about to start building a house and it would have made a nice start to that.

It's a sickening feeling. Happened to me back in the day when BT bought Esat from O'Brien, I was 3 weeks short of share options and while everyone was dancing around and talking about their windfall I was sitting gutted in the corner. would have only been 20-25k but still hurt.

[Strewelpeter]

USA, France, Germany and Italy added to hotel quarantine rules

Fucking hell

[coillcam]

It's a sickening feeling. Happened to me back in the day when BT bought Esat from O'Brien, I was 3 weeks short of share options and while everyone was dancing around and talking about their windfall I was sitting gutted in the corner. would have only been 20-25k but still hurt.

I worked with a guy who was in the office lotto syndicate for a few years. He was out sick from work for a week and didn't get to pay his sub as a result. They didn't count him in the syndicate for that period and ended up winning the lotto. Pictures in local paper and national media coverage etc. Poor fella missed out on a very nice 5 figure sum as a result. The other syndicate members wouldn't give up a few k each to cover his potential winnings either. I just couldn't fathom the bad vibes that would have caused. He was still working with the same company and colleagues for years later.

[Strewelpeter]

It's a sickening feeling. Happened to me back in the day when BT bought Esat from O'Brien, I was 3 weeks short of share options and while everyone was dancing around and talking about their windfall I was sitting gutted in the corner. would have only been 20-25k but still hurt.

I keep hearing him on calls telling people how happy he is for them I think the poor hoor has actually died inside, He'll get over it in time.

I remember a conversation with three lads in Trintech who were working out whether to vest shares they had and if it would be worth the hassle for the €400 they were going to get between them. They told me then that they had had a conversation five years earlier where they were discussing an option to sell those same shares and buying a house each in Leopardstown for what they were worth at that time (setting up a company to deal with the tax), one of the three persuaded them to hodl

[Strewelpeter]

LOL welcome to the future.

I've seen Chinese manufacturers who don't give a fuck put manuals through translate but this is a whole new level of the game

[Tar.Aldarion]

I have to say this is the most over the top delivery of sausages that I woke to this morning and I appreciate it.

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[PSV58]

Are we going to be living with Luke O neill for years to come or will he disappear when pandemic is over?

[Raoul Duke III]

I have to say this is the most over the top delivery of sausages that I woke to this morning and I appreciate it.

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This reminds me of when Homer accused the gays of stealing 'our words'.

Now you lot are at it. 'Sausages' and 'black pudding' are sacred to our tribe, you're messing with forces you don't even understand here.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

Went into a decently authentic looking Chinese place and asked for the gyozas. She's just pulled the same frozen pack I normally buy in the Chinese supermarket out of the freezer. Got to love the gamesmanship. Although I'm now wondering if the run-down look of the place wasn't an attempt at portraying authenticity but just their general business attitude.

[Raoul Duke III]

Went into a decently authentic looking Chinese place and asked for the gyozas. She's just pulled the same frozen pack I normally buy in the Chinese supermarket out of the freezer. Got to love the gamesmanship. Although I'm now wondering if the run-down look of the place wasn't an attempt at portraying authenticity but just their general business attitude.

Don't gyozas come from Japan?

[dobby]

[Tar.Aldarion]

This reminds me of when Homer accused the gays of stealing 'our words'.

Now you lot are at it. 'Sausages' and 'black pudding' are sacred to our tribe, you're messing with forces you don't even understand here.

They ruined all our best names like Bruce, and Lance, and Julian sausage and pudding. Those were the toughest meatiest names we had!
It's come to a point I can nearly live off the free food I am receiving, and for some reason companies seem to think i want to wear beanies with their names on it.
I was surprised to see Denny get in on the vegan products but their sausages are class.

[Strewelpeter]

Got a new lawnmower this week

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Must invite Tara around when the project is complete

[coillcam]

Went into a decently authentic looking Chinese place and asked for the gyozas. She's just pulled the same frozen pack I normally buy in the Chinese supermarket out of the freezer. Got to love the gamesmanship. Although I'm now wondering if the run-down look of the place wasn't an attempt at portraying authenticity but just their general business attitude.

It's probably the same ones in the Asian supermarket down here too. I've a Korean mate that had them and she said they're legit decent compared what's available at home. Probably the same ones for your starter in a Chinese take away too.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Don't gyozas come from Japan?

They come from China, they were brought to Japan by soldiers after the war and are a little different now, though homemade Chinese ones are the same as Japanese ones. But you are right with the word, Hitch should have said Jiaozi for a Chinese place, though they are written using Chinese characters in japan still!

[Raoul Duke III]

They come from China, they were brought to Japan by soldiers after the war and are a little different now, though homemade Chinese ones are the same as Japanese ones.

Ah, OK. On first glance, it looked like the equivalent of going into a Polish shop and being annoyed they didn't have the right type of French cheese.

[Tar.Aldarion]

Like when I went to a Ramen place in New York with my mother and she was miffed they didn't have chipper style battered fish, and didn't trust the word tempura.
Also don't get my girlfriend started on how Eastern European shops are all called Polish shops too as us westerners just think there is one big country called Poland over there.

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

It was definitely themed Chinese anyway. Maybe gyozas was the French used word. (look at that fecker blaming the French again)

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

as us westerners just think there is one big country called Poland over there.

I really don't think we think that. Like literally no-one. Not least thanks to decades of Eurovision and football. I do remember the exact at opposite at some point of being surprised how big Poland actually was.

[hotspur]

Does "zoos and wildlife parks" effectively just mean Dublin Zoo and Fota?

I wonder is there a substantial meal = restaurant type workaround for a pub if they stick a penguin on the bar or have a gibbon in the toilet?

[Solksjaer!]

The Ranchers Wife.

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The Ranchers Wife

A successful rancher died and left everything to his devoted wife.

She was a very good-looking woman and determined to keep the ranch, but knew very little about ranching, so she decided to place an ad in the newspaper for a ranch hand.

Two cowboys applied for the job. One was gay and the other a drunk.

She thought long and hard about it, and when no one else applied she decided to hire the gay guy, figuring it would be safer to have him around the house than the drunk.

He proved to be a hard worker who put in long hours every day and knew a lot about ranching.

For weeks, the two of them worked, and the ranch was doing very well.

Then one day, the rancher's widow said to the hired hand, "You have done a really good job, and the ranch looks great. You should go into town and kick up your heels." The hired hand readily agreed and went into town Saturday night.
One o'clock came and he didn't return. Two o'clock and no hired hand.
Finally he returned around two-thirty, and upon entering the house, he found the rancher's widow sitting by the fireplace with a glass of wine, waiting for him.

She quietly called him over to her. "Unbutton my blouse and take it off," she said. Trembling, he did as she directed. "Now take off my boots." He did as she asked, ever so slowly. "Now take off my socks." He removed each gently and placed them neatly by her boots. "Now take off my skirt." He slowly unbuttoned it, constantly watching her eyes in the fire light. "Now take off my bra." Again, with trembling hands, he did as he was told and dropped it to the floor.

Then she looked deep into his eyes and said, "If you EVER wear my clothes into town again, you're fired"

[PSV58]

Inter county GAA training back before golf is a bad joke- do GAA have compromising pics of cabinet members? It’s a fucking joke the slack they get count after the amount of shite that had been caused county final celebrations last yesr

knowing the nature of the micromanaging nazis who are involved in back room teams and management of inter county a good few have been training away for past few months anyway

[luckforsome]

I worked with a guy who was in the office lotto syndicate for a few years. He was out sick from work for a week and didn't get to pay his sub as a result. They didn't count him in the syndicate for that period and ended up winning the lotto. Pictures in local paper and national media coverage etc. Poor fella missed out on a very nice 5 figure sum as a result. The other syndicate members wouldn't give up a few k each to cover his potential winnings either. I just couldn't fathom the bad vibes that would have caused. He was still working with the same company and colleagues for years later.

...This is not how the beloved IPB lotto syndicate is run...Often members would be a few € negative but will always buy the same amount of tickets- except maybe for Andynotsofatbastard... Fact they didn't all throw a few K each to him is horrendous...

...On that note--- still recruiting for the IPB Lotto syndicate... €5 per week for guaranteed returns*...

*Returns very likely to be massively less than invested...

[DeadParrot]

I keep hearing him on calls telling people how happy he is for them I think the poor hoor has actually died inside, He'll get over it in time.

I remember a conversation with three lads in Trintech who were working out whether to vest shares they had and if it would be worth the hassle for the €400 they were going to get between them. They told me then that they had had a conversation five years earlier where they were discussing an option to sell those same shares and buying a house each in Leopardstown for what they were worth at that time (setting up a company to deal with the tax), one of the three persuaded them to hodl

Ryanair did a buy back scheme one shares when MrsDP and I were just at the dawn of courting.
She was gushing telling me how she was getting €4 a share...

[Tar.Aldarion]

I really don't think we think that. Like literally no-one. Not least thanks to decades of Eurovision and football. I do remember the exact at opposite at some point of being surprised how big Poland actually was.

It's not literal lmao. She is just assumed to be Polish every day for years here, her comment is that she only ever gets questions about how long ago she moved from Poland, what part of Poland is she from and on and on, non stop. And that the "Polish shops" are selling goods from all over the place, not just Poland etc, we go there for Hungarian products.