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    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

    It seems like a fairly stark highlighting of the risks though. They're not just picking random cases, they know a lot of transmission is happening around funerals (as per raoul's post tonight) and wanted a story that highlighted to that specific cohort that there's no magic cloak. So now when someone in that cohort is thinking of going to a funeral they'll remember that story and it might stop a few of them going. I've pretty much stopped reading anything to do with covid, and don't have a telly, so not sure its out of trend with how they normally communicate. Seems grand though.
    He could have told the story without ever needing to add the part of him being a condescending arsehole to her at the end. They've a fairly thankless job and any advice at this point is probably gonna be dismissed by large portions of the fatigued public but coming across that cold and detached from the emotional side of the story certainly doesn't help their public perception and id say would have a net negative result on compliance.
    Last edited by The Situation; 22-03-21, 22:48.
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      Originally posted by The Situation View Post

      He could have told the story without ever needing to add the part of him being a condescending arsehole to her at the end. They've a fairly thankless job and any advice at this point is probably gonna be dismissed by large portions of the fatigued public but coming across that cold and detached from the emotional side of the story certainly doesn't help their public perception and id say would have a net negative result on compliance.
      I think you're thinking they say these things off the cuff. They have behavioural experts on staff who probably help craft the specific examples to suit particular groups of people.
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        I don't know if it's the perfect message. Or even a good one. But it's not some off-the-cuff example.
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          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

          I thought you just bought a house?! I was basing my current house search around Kimmage and surrounding areas based on 'well if its good enough for london hotshots'
          sale agreed since September, they're not able to finish building it though, no progress whatsoever since Dec 23rd I think.

          V frustrating, but also what can ya do?

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            Originally posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
            Him being right and privately and publicly dressing her down being the right thing to do are two totally different things. Because it is public, her name might not be known but everyone who knows her will know who she is, family, friends, neighbours, work colleagues etc. She has been shamed for what she did, after already going through an awful lot. That points to him being one giant cunt of a person.
            He's trying to stop other people in the same situation dying. That's his job. As Raoul noted - it's 10% of cases, and probably an older cohort more susceptible to serious adverse outcomes. He will have discussed this with her and how it can help persuade those target people to look after themselves.
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              Originally posted by Emmet View Post

              sale agreed since September, they're not able to finish building it though, no progress whatsoever since Dec 23rd I think.

              V frustrating, but also what can ya do?
              Yikes.

              I was hearing about someone I know who got married in November. Moved to Limerick from Dublin in mid-December, staying in a dodgy hotel, ready to move into his newly built house subject to a snag check. Corona shuts everything down and he's now about to enter his fourth month in the bridal suite of that hotel. His life highlight being the Friday night burger special they put on for him in the hotel restaurant.
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                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                He's trying to stop other people in the same situation dying. That's his job. As Raoul noted - it's 10% of cases, and probably an older cohort more susceptible to serious adverse outcomes. He will have discussed this with her and how it can help persuade those target people to look after themselves.
                And shaming someone in public would be in my opinion and a lot of people's opinion the wrong way to go about it. How he phrased it not someone else, it does not make it sound like a discussion was had. No one responds well to being shamed or watching someone be. Talking down to people will only turn people against you and that's how he came across. It just does not seem right to have an ordinary individual singled out when thousands have done the same.

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                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                  I think you're thinking they say these things off the cuff. They have behavioural experts on staff who probably help craft the specific examples to suit particular groups of people.
                  I don't for a second believe they have every last word prepared for these daily briefings or that any behavioural expert would have adviced him to say that. You'd want to be literal and logical almost on autistic levels to say that or read it and not find it tactless.
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                    Originally posted by The Situation View Post

                    I don't for a second believe they have every last word prepared for these daily briefings or that any behavioural expert would have adviced him to say that. You'd want to be literal and logical almost on autistic levels to say that or read it and not find it tactless.
                    Remember that the NPHET staff are exhausted themselves. If a misplaced few words are the biggest complaint we can muster against them, then that's an indication they're doing a very hard job, very well.

                    War weariness all round.
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                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                      Remember that the NPHET staff are exhausted themselves. If a misplaced few words are the biggest complaint we can muster against them, then that's an indication they're doing a very hard job, very well.

                      War weariness all round.
                      I doubt there is a physical exhaustion here . If a mental one then there should be a process for communications .
                      funerals are highly charged and emotional times You dont need a kick when you are down. A bit of controlled sensitivity is not too much to ask. In the hope your woman isnt reading IPB, she was very stupid.

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                        Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                        So, just picking this up across the thread today:

                        If the size of the extension is under 40sqm and is attached to an existing house, then no pp is needed? I was assuming you do need permission for everything tbh.
                        Exempt development regulations.
                        There’s more to it that just 40sqm. But that’s the main one. Needs to be to the rear, within certain height limitations, distance from boundary if 2 story, and leave a certain area of backgarden remaining.

                        I can pull the exact working out if you need it.

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                          My main doubt about NPHET criticism is that it's always just a few sentences until someone follows their own logic to announce "and that's why I think the publicans should be running things". We have a surprisingly ability to assume that public health professionals who have delivered some of the lowest death rates in the world haven't the foggiest.
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                            Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                            Exempt development regulations.
                            There’s more to it that just 40sqm. But that’s the main one. Needs to be to the rear, within certain height limitations, distance from boundary if 2 story, and leave a certain area of backgarden remaining.

                            I can pull the exact working out if you need it.
                            You're very good, nah, just interested in the general idea.
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                              Originally posted by Dice75 View Post

                              Casey playing quite consistant has to be in with a shout at 33s?
                              I’ve backed Louis, Zalatoris, Sergio, Day all around 40/1 ew T8. Pick 1 in each section so they don’t meet. If one gets to the quarters you cover the bet. Went for Sergio over Casey but both are playing great and good match players so wouldn’t put you off.
                              His rival it seems, had broken his dreams,By stealing the girl of his fancy.Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil,But everyone knew her as Nancy.

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                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                My main doubt about NPHET criticism is that it's always just a few sentences until someone follows their own logic to announce "and that's why I think the publicans should be running things". We have a surprisingly ability to assume that public health professionals who have delivered some of the lowest death rates in the world haven't the foggiest.
                                Or ' we should be aiming for a zero covid strategy, like New Zealand'.

                                Sinn Fein were testing that one out for a couple of weeks and then quietly dropped it
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                                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                  Or ' we should be aiming for a zero covid strategy, like New Zealand'.

                                  Sinn Fein were testing that one out for a couple of weeks and then quietly dropped it
                                  The SocDems one was classic. ZeroCovid and then they updated it a few weeks later to a policy of allowing 10 infections a day. The mind boggles.

                                  Edit: sorry the target was 10 cases, so the policy would fail if there were too many or two few infections. 100 infections bad, 2 infections bad. 10 infections perfect.
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                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                    The SocDems one was classic. ZeroCovid and then they updated it a few weeks later to a policy of allowing 10 infections a day. The mind boggles.

                                    Edit: sorry the target was 10 cases, so the policy would fail if there were too many or two few infections. 100 infections bad, 2 infections bad. 10 infections perfect.
                                    SocDems have not had a good few weeks, between that and the lunatic they had standing for them in Strewel-land
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                                      Waffle breakfast anyone?

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                                        WTF?

                                        http://www.nphet.ie
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                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                          My main doubt about NPHET criticism is that it's always just a few sentences until someone follows their own logic to announce "and that's why I think the publicans should be running things". We have a surprisingly ability to assume that public health professionals who have delivered some of the lowest death rates in the world haven't the foggiest.
                                          Critiquing the actions of one of their lower profile members isnt an attack on their entire work. Not sure what metric you're looking at to say they've delivered "some of the lowest death rates in the world" but seems fairly wrong. Obvious caveat being if their warnings were heeded earlier it would be lower but i'm sure every health board in every country would have similar grumblings.
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                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                            My main doubt about NPHET criticism is that it's always just a few sentences until someone follows their own logic to announce "and that's why I think the publicans should be running things". We have a surprisingly ability to assume that public health professionals who have delivered some of the lowest death rates in the world haven't the foggiest.
                                            I assume you mean death rates outside of covid?

                                            Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                            Waffle breakfast anyone?

                                            This move is quite literally 12 months late.

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                                              well 24 European countries with higher death rates, and we know that EU all measures deaths in approximately the same way. Although I hadn't looked at the numbers for a few months and that third wave did knock our global leadership for six. That's from not listening to NPHET though, the group that situation was criticising for sending out the nasty unfair message that covid can kill you.
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                                                https://tomorrowscare.ie/covid/2021-...ey_Results.pdf

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                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                  well 24 European countries with higher death rates, and we know that EU all measures deaths in approximately the same way. Although I hadn't looked at the numbers for a few months and that third wave did knock our global leadership for six. That's from not listening to NPHET though, the group that situation was criticising for sending out the nasty unfair message that covid can kill you.
                                                  We've done better than many of our larger neighbours. But I think you're being quite generous with NPHET praise to describe the 25th worst in europe as "one of the best is the world".
                                                  We're just about beating the average in europe. That's about it.

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                                                    Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                    Do you really need help with this?
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                                                      Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                                                      I assume you mean death rates outside of covid?



                                                      This move is quite literally 12 months late.
                                                      Never going to be used. There as a deterrent to travel to Ireland in the first place.

                                                      People have to self identify and stay on the plane. Yeah right. Just the concept of two groups, on the same plane being processed differently, is crackers. They have all been sharing the same small space for the last couple of hours FFS.

                                                      PCR levy and test for all who land FTW. Not easy to implement but better than the hotel madness.

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                                                        Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                        Never going to be used. There as a deterrent to travel to Ireland in the first place.

                                                        People have to self identify and stay on the plane. Yeah right. Just the concept of two groups, on the same plane being processed differently, is crackers. They have all been sharing the same small space for the last couple of hours FFS.

                                                        PCR levy and test for all who land FTW. Not easy to implement but better than the hotel madness.
                                                        what are other countries doing as a matter of interest?

                                                        (always amazes me that we torture ourselves trying to come up with perfect here when we could just steal the good ideas of other countries)
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                                                          Last week when the media frenzy was the suspension of AZ while a possible blood clotting correlation was investigated RTE framed the debate by asking every single health expert and government rep about how peoples 'understandable' fears would be dealt with and what would happen if they wanted a different vaccine and how much this would increase vaccine hesitancy.

                                                          So far this week I heard a half a dozen zero covid cranks and a whole raft of opposition figures on bleating that everyone coming into the country should be put into 14 day hotel quarantine not a single one of them was asked to explain how they were going to police the border or deal with delivery of food medicine and other essentials when everyone coming in off a ferry or plane has to spend 2 weeks in a fucking Travelodge

                                                          FFS!
                                                          Turning millions into thousands

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                                                            Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post

                                                            Do you really need help with this?
                                                            I do, apologies for ignorance, but curious?
                                                            airport, lol

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                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                              what are other countries doing as a matter of interest?

                                                              (always amazes me that we torture ourselves trying to come up with perfect here when we could just steal the good ideas of other countries)
                                                              Mandatory 2 week self-isolation in designated hotel in BC, and likely all Canada, for, close to, or as long as, this has been going on.

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                                                                Originally posted by eamonhonda View Post

                                                                I do, apologies for ignorance, but curious?
                                                                Dunno what DP is on about but I imagine somebody in FF just secretly bought that domain name (or had somebody do it), and linked it o their site. It's not an official domain of nphet etc, they don't have a site. Or else somebody outside them did it for the little stir up it would cause.

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                                                                  Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                  People have to self identify and stay on the plane. Yeah right. Just the concept of two groups, on the same plane being processed differently, is crackers. They have all been sharing the same small space for the last couple of hours FFS.
                                                                  I'm not across the details of the proposal. But why would two groups on the same plane be treated differently?
                                                                  Mandatory means mandatory. Or at least it should.

                                                                  PCR levy and test for all who land FTW. Not easy to implement but better than the hotel madness.
                                                                  The whole point of hotel quarantine is that people who have recently contracted it (such as from a passenger) won't have a viral load to return a positive result.
                                                                  Over here it's 2 weeks, and you get tested on arrival, day 2 and day 10. There The test that's been catching the most cases was the day 2 test of those who were asymptomatic.
                                                                  Potentially 100s are cluster outbreaks in they were let out after first pass.

                                                                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                  what are other countries doing as a matter of interest?
                                                                  (always amazes me that we torture ourselves trying to come up with perfect here when we could just steal the good ideas of other countries)
                                                                  Hotel quarantine has been in effect here for about a year. Statistically it seems to be hugely effective are keeping community transmission close to zero.

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                                                                    My friend was doing the hotel thing from the start when going home to Singapore. Had all their food etc covered, nice stuff! The government even paid for people to come home if they wanted to.

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                                                                      Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post

                                                                      Dunno what DP is on about but I imagine somebody in FF just secretly bought that domain name (or had somebody do it), and linked it o their site. It's not an official domain of nphet etc, they don't have a site. Or else somebody outside them did it for the little stir up it would cause.
                                                                      Its a million percent the second angle. That someone from the outside did this. But maybe says a lot about politics that you think someone from ff would actually do it.
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                                                                        Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                                                                        Hotel quarantine has been in effect here for about a year. Statistically it seems to be hugely effective are keeping community transmission close to zero.
                                                                        Yeah but you do have an inbuilt geographical advantage. NZ even more so.

                                                                        We share a land border with another country, have an exceptionally open economy and are part of an international organisation for which 'freedom of movement' is a foundational principle.

                                                                        So not really apples with apples. Maybe apples with kiwi fruits.
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                                                                          The very fact it showed up in wombats whatsapp groups says the type of people that thought it would be a laugh
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                                                                            Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                                                                            I'm not across the details of the proposal. But why would two groups on the same plane be treated differently?
                                                                            Mandatory means mandatory. Or at least it should.


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                                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                              Yeah but you do have an inbuilt geographical advantage. NZ even more so.

                                                                              We share a land border with another country, have an exceptionally open economy and are part of an international organisation for which 'freedom of movement' is a foundational principle.

                                                                              So not really apples with apples. Maybe apples with kiwi fruits.
                                                                              we try not to talk about geographical advantage or disadvantage anymore. Differently geolocationally positioned.
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                                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                Its a million percent the second angle. That someone from the outside did this. But maybe says a lot about politics that you think someone from ff would actually do it.
                                                                                Could easily be a youth supporter or anybody. Random aside, a curry paste company registered my vegan insta/facebook name for a domain for their curry site, which I thought was funny. Oh yeah whoops this isn't the right site but will buy a tub of curry paste while I'm here I guess.

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                                                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                  The very fact it showed up in wombats whatsapp groups says the type of people that thought it would be a laugh
                                                                                  I thought it was funny myself
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                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                    Its a million percent the second angle. That someone from the outside did this. But maybe says a lot about politics that you think someone from ff would actually do it.
                                                                                    ^^This.
                                                                                    I'd take me about 6 minutes to do something similar for any number of political figures/groups
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                                                                                      have a suggestion . Music King is great little competition (and the debates). Perhaps we need a sticky thread for Music so the tunes keep flowing in one place plus it can be topped up every week or as people see fit. Many a good tune misses me by in the BBV as it updates so quickly. From Ollies Friday night Guy Clarkes to Lazare Jules favs.

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                                                                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                        what are other countries doing as a matter of interest?

                                                                                        (always amazes me that we torture ourselves trying to come up with perfect here when we could just steal the good ideas of other countries)
                                                                                        Israel doing it for example. Irish guy, working in Israel, on Matt Cooper talking about it a couple of weeks ago.

                                                                                        Furthermore, incoming passengers will be required to undergo a PCR test when landing in the State of Israel.
                                                                                        https://www.iaa.gov.il/en/airports/b...ring-covid-19/
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                                                                                          Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post

                                                                                          Could easily be a youth supporter or anybody. Random aside, a curry paste company registered my vegan insta/facebook name for a domain for their curry site, which I thought was funny. Oh yeah whoops this isn't the right site but will buy a tub of curry paste while I'm here I guess.
                                                                                          doubtful.
                                                                                          I mean extremely doubtful.
                                                                                          Wombat's whatsapp group gaslighting attempt should make that clear.

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                                                                                            Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post


                                                                                            I assume that our immigration control is sufficiently advanced so as to know what country people are from without that letting the lads know.

                                                                                            I was thinking surely two people arriving on the same class of flight, ie international.
                                                                                            Then I look up category 2 countries. FFS, the lads are taking the piss. Here was me think that they finally implemented proper measures. But nope. Have assed 3rd world restriction. While any old jabroni arriving from the United States of Covid is free to waltz in.

                                                                                            I suppose it's my own fault assuming they had got it together.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                              Israel doing it for example. Irish guy, working in Israel, on Matt Cooper talking about it a couple of weeks ago.


                                                                                              https://www.iaa.gov.il/en/airports/b...ring-covid-19/

                                                                                              https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...stem-1.4517042

                                                                                              At least only people arriving from countries on the high-risk list will have to enter the new quarantine system.
                                                                                              Ah, well, you’ll also have to use it if, regardless of whether or not the country you arrive from is on the high-risk list, you cannot show you have a negative or not-detected result from a Covid-19 RT-PCR test carried out no more than 72 hours before you reach Ireland. But you will, at least, only be charged by the day: €150 for the first person, €55 for the second person over 12, and €30 for four- to 12-year-olds. The Government’s quarantine website has full details.
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                                                                                                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                I thought it was funny myself
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                                                                                                  Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                                                  only be charged €30 for four- to 12-year-olds.
                                                                                                  hmm and Easter vacation starts on Friday?
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                                                                                                    Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post

                                                                                                    doubtful.
                                                                                                    I mean extremely doubtful.
                                                                                                    Wombat's whatsapp group gaslighting attempt should make that clear.
                                                                                                    Is there no way to do a WhoIs on it or something?

                                                                                                    Don't know where this WhatApp group thing is coming from
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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                      Is there no way to do a WhoIs on it or something?

                                                                                                      Don't know where this WhatApp group thing is coming from
                                                                                                      Hitch made it up because that is what you do to get ahead in Academia. DP ran with it as it supported his point, which is what you do to get ahead on the internet.



                                                                                                      tbf I agree with them, just trying to say what is possible as I see stupid stuff actually happening a lot.

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                        Is there no way to do a WhoIs on it or something?

                                                                                                        Don't know where this WhatApp group thing is coming from
                                                                                                        Be proud of your HitchHism. It's up there with the Le Carre jibes against RD3. I'm hoping I get labelled as having my opinions from toilet doors
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                          Is there no way to do a WhoIs on it or something?

                                                                                                          Don't know where this WhatApp group thing is coming from
                                                                                                          gdpr means whois is automatically redacted.
                                                                                                          The fact that the nameservers are held by hostingireland.ie instead of a recognized govt supplier should say it all.

                                                                                                          I'm just a fan of aliteration dude and "Wombat's whatsapp group gaslighting" was too good to pass up
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                                                                                                            #wombatswhatapp is trending .

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                                                                                                              ha
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                                                                                                                I don't know how the state pays its day-to-day operations when it is handing out €13m for pseudo-science cases like this. There's some deep scam at the heart of Irish courts and health cases. Nearly all of the cervical cancer cases, most of those multi-million euro pregnancy settlements. This idea that the state is on the hook for anytime something goes wrong in a hospital, even though things frequently go wrong in hospitals as each patient is unique. A hospital is meant to try to minimise the things that go wrong, but we must be the only country in the world (even compared to the US) where the basic occurrence of something going wrong counts as negligence. I think I read recently that its a billion in outstanding cases that the HSE is faced with and its all just coming out of our pockets.
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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                    I don't know how the state pays its day-to-day operations when it is handing out €13m for pseudo-science cases like this. There's some deep scam at the heart of Irish courts and health cases. Nearly all of the cervical cancer cases, most of those multi-million euro pregnancy settlements. This idea that the state is on the hook for anytime something goes wrong in a hospital, even though things frequently go wrong in hospitals as each patient is unique. A hospital is meant to try to minimise the things that go wrong, but we must be the only country in the world (even compared to the US) where the basic occurrence of something going wrong counts as negligence. I think I read recently that its a billion in outstanding cases that the HSE is faced with and its all just coming out of our pockets.
                                                                                                                    There's a reason why healthcare is so expensive in the US though....
                                                                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                      In other news, just the 371 cases today. Bringing Hitch (and indeed the very nation itself) up to 6900 for the 13 days from 11-23 Mar inclusive.

                                                                                                                      848 cases is the target for tomorrow if Hitch is to back up his braggadocio.
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                                        In other news, just the 371 cases today. Bringing Hitch (and indeed the very nation itself) up to 6900 for the 13 days from 11-23 Mar inclusive.

                                                                                                                        848 cases is the target for tomorrow if Hitch is to back up his braggadocio.
                                                                                                                        ffs. I nailed the reversal of the fall in case numbers, so history will surely remember that most of all, but thats a very high bar for tomorrow in order to technically win.
                                                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                          ffs. I nailed the reversal of the fall in case numbers, so history will surely remember that most of all, but thats a very high bar for tomorrow in order to technically win.
                                                                                                                          Must....not...indulge...in...gloating....yet....
                                                                                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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