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    Probably wouldnt have even been in the top 3 worst things he did that week. Must be a few in the yard sick of his antics that leaked it. Hopefully a few more things get exposed in coming weeks.
    Profit before people.

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      Originally posted by The Situation View Post
      Probably wouldnt have even been in the top 3 worst things he did that week. Must be a few in the yard sick of his antics that leaked it. Hopefully a few more things get exposed in coming weeks.
      Probably one of the women from last weeks show. A woman scorned and all that.

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        Some kind soul offer cliffs on the Gorden Elliot thing. I heard about the Shebeen stuff . What else ?

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          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
          Some kind soul offer cliffs on the Gorden Elliot thing. I heard about the Shebeen stuff . What else ?
          I can't even describe it, its not clear that the statement DP posted is real lets wait until thats verified.
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            Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

            I can't even describe it, its not clear that the statement DP posted is real lets wait until thats verified.
            I'm not Kayroo , it doesn't have to stand up in court. I'll take idle gossip

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              Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

              I'm not Kayroo , it doesn't have to stand up in court. I'll take idle gossip
              This is a fuller version of what DP posted, I've lifted it from a post on boards

              Gordon Elliott has issued an apology and provided some context for the controversial photo that emerged on social media on Saturday night that showed him sitting on a dead horse on the side of a gallop, insisting that "horse welfare and care are at the core of everything" that is done at his Cullentra House Stables.

              Elliott had already said on Twitter that he would be "cooperating fully" with an Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board (IHRB) investigation into the image, which prompted the BHA to urge the Irish authorities to act quickly to confirm how the "shocking picture" originated.

              The IHRB's official investigation remains a work in progress, but, via a statement on Sunday night, Elliott has sought to provide some background to the sequence of events that led to the picture.

              The statement read: "I would like to address the speculation and rumours that have been rife since an old photo of me began circulating on social media yesterday afternoon.

              "Firstly, I apologise profoundly for any offence that this photo has caused and can categorically state that the welfare of each and every horse under my care is paramount and has been central to the success that we have enjoyed here at Cullentra.

              "The photo in question was taken some time ago and occurred after a horse had died of an apparent heart attack on the gallops. I appreciate that an initial viewing of this photo suggests it is a callous and staged photo but nothing could be further from the truth.

              "At what was a sad time, which it is when any horse under my care passes away, my initial reaction was to get the body removed from where it was positioned.

              "I was standing over the horse waiting to help with the removal of the body, in the course of which, to my memory I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it. Hearing a shout from one of my team, I gestured to wait until I was finished.

              "Such background information may seem trivial at this time and will not allay the concerns of many people both within and outside the world of horse racing.

              "However, I feel it is important to provide people with some context surrounding this photo. To the racing community, to anyone who has worked with and loves horses and to anyone offended by this image I cannot apologise enough.

              "Horse welfare and the care and attention to detail involved is absolutely at the core of everything we do here and both myself and all of my team pride ourselves on those standards.

              "Again I apologise for any offence caused and ask people to consider this statement as opposed to the various falsehoods and misinformation being circulated on social media.

              "At this time I would like to stress that I continue to extend my full cooperation with the ongoing IHRB investigation."

              The image, posted from an account unconnected to the Grand National and Gold Cup-winning trainer, was widely circulated on the social media platform, leading the IHRB to tweet that it was aware of the picture on social media and that "an investigation was taking place".

              Elliott initially responded on Twitter to say: "I'm aware of a photo in circulation on social media. The IHRB have been in contact with me regarding this photo and I will be cooperating fully with their investigation."
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                +1 for idle gossip. The idler the better.
                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                  Hopefully some of the papers run with the image on the front page tomorrow. Show the public the reality of the scum involved in this mickey mouse "sport" that exists for little more than facilitating gambling addictions. Fair play to Elliott for hammering another nail in the coffin. Tick tock...

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                    Originally posted by Silly Gilly View Post
                    Hopefully some of the papers run with the image on the front page tomorrow. Show the public the reality of the scum involved in this mickey mouse "sport" that exists for little more than facilitating gambling addictions. Fair play to Elliott for hammering another nail in the coffin. Tick tock...
                    Yeah not sure what people are up in arms about- what do people think happens to loser horses?

                    from the Pearl clutching I was expecting the pic to be of Mr.Elliot being covered by Tiger Roll
                    “PSV was right all along” -Hitch 20 May 2019

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                      Kinda wondering what all the fuss is about myself.
                      I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                        I'd imagine there's some sort of sausage-related quote. About people liking the outcome but that seeing the process might turn off a fair few folk.
                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                          In other news...i cooked a steak tonight....cow, although...i have heard horse is quiet nice.

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                            Originally posted by PSV58 View Post

                            Yeah not sure what people are up in arms about- what do people think happens to loser horses?

                            from the Pearl clutching I was expecting the pic to be of Mr.Elliot being covered by Tiger Roll
                            Too far on the Tiger Roll . It's only been a week since he spun off the road.

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                              Nothing to see here. Master is a great guy. How dare you question his actions? Outrage for outrages sake. He had no other option. Would you prefer if it went into the bin? Bla, bla, bla......

                              "Coombe master did not vaccinate students on standby, inquiry hears".

                              https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...ears-1.4497566
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                                Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                Nothing to see here. Master is a great guy. How dare you question his actions? Outrage for outrages sake. He had no other option. Would you prefer if it went into the bin? Bla, bla, bla......

                                "Coombe master did not vaccinate students on standby, inquiry hears".

                                https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...ears-1.4497566
                                The fact that he vaccinated his children who are at no risk at all says it all- what a gimp
                                “PSV was right all along” -Hitch 20 May 2019

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                                  I'm only upset because I was literally there that night and didn't get an offer.

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                                    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                    It'll have some serious blowback imo.

                                    We should have a sidebet on this.
                                    Betfair have dumped him anyway.

                                    Between this and the Charles Byrnes saga, racing really is doing a wonderful job of kicking its own hole.
                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                      Betfair have dumped him anyway.

                                      Between this and the Charles Byrnes saga, racing really is doing a wonderful job of kicking its own hole.
                                      Plenty of Jockeys have sat on dead horses costing me a few Bob over the years .

                                      Be EPic is he went on a run of good form. All will be forgotten

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                                        Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                        Plenty of Jockeys have sat on dead horses costing me a few Bob over the years .

                                        Be EPic is he went on a run of good form. All will be forgotten
                                        no need to flog it any longer

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                                          If you win the IPB Cheltenham Tipping Comp, you could buy all of the horsemeat.

                                          Prizepool already nudging into 4 figures and Cheltenham is still two weeks away....
                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                            40 ish years old

                                             

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                                              Racing TV covering GE.
                                              Will be interesting to see who sticks the boot in.
                                              People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                Plenty of Jockeys have sat on dead horses costing me a few Bob over the years .

                                                Be EPic is he went on a run of good form. All will be forgotten
                                                Short priced fave in the opener at Punchestown
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                                                  Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                  Racing TV covering GE.
                                                  Will be interesting to see who sticks the boot in.

                                                  People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                    Sit on a live horse charging en masse at high jumps at the Grand National - "G'wan ye boy ye". Sit on a dead horse - "You inhuman monster!"

                                                    It's quite funny from the outside at what constitutes morality. No-one is remotely complaining about the fact that the dodgy ticker horse was killed by their actions, but take a humorous photo of it and it's plain wrong and disgraceful.

                                                    I'm not having a go at people in the industry, I just think it's weird.

                                                    In the other place I saw a thread on the front page from the Farming forum on what to do about an aggressive bull. I thought that sounded interesting and read it. Half of the posts from the farmers seemed to jokes about "Straight to Burger King with it" and whatnot. I was surprised by that, but then reckoned dark humour must just be a part of it.

                                                    This obviously doesn't apply to horse racing given the reaction to the photo. Not having any connection with it I'm not sure why.

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                                                      If it hits the Irish mainstream news this evening id say he could have a problem.

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                                                        Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                        No-one is remotely complaining about the fact that the dodgy ticker horse was killed by their actions, but take a humorous photo of it and it's plain wrong and disgraceful.
                                                        Dodgy ticker horse died because of its dodgy ticker.

                                                        Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                        In the other place I saw a thread on the front page from the Farming forum on what to do about an aggressive bull. I thought that sounded interesting and read it. Half of the posts from the farmers seemed to jokes about "Straight to Burger King with it" and whatnot. I was surprised by that, but then reckoned dark humour must just be a part of it.

                                                        This obviously doesn't apply to horse racing given the reaction to the photo. Not having any connection with it I'm not sure why.
                                                        People are very attached to horses, they are bred to be ridden, either casually or raced and for breeding but not for meat production, that is quite a difference.

                                                        The strongest and most passionate voices I'm hearing on this are from inside racing it's all rather grim right now.

                                                        Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                        If it hits the Irish mainstream news this evening id say he could have a problem.
                                                        It was on BBC News this morning. Chevely Park are playing the wait for the official report (i.e. after Cheltenham) before making a decision game.



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                                                          Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                          If it hits the Irish mainstream news this evening id say he could have a problem.
                                                          Was on Joe Duffy. Can't wait for the listen back to become available.
                                                          Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                            Live now on Live Line. Talk to Joe. 715 815.
                                                            Pure gold.
                                                            Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                              It's really the optics and the possible message it gives to kids if you don't show respect to an animal you are already using for money/pleasure you really are just showing it's just a piece of meat to you. The optics of racing are different , the horses are treated mostly very well. There is a bigger question as to the respect of all animals I guess . Over to Tar for that one. Our dark side as humans is really how we treat animals . When it comes to food , I'm guilty.

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                                                                Hope Gordon is backing all these Punchestown winners to cover the fine

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                                                                  Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                                  Hope Gordon is backing all these Punchestown winners to cover the fine
                                                                  Win the IPB Cheltenham Tipping Comp and you could pay off all his fines, with a bit left for a box of cigars. Already over 4 figures in the pot and looking like a big one this year....
                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                    Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                    Sit on a live horse charging en masse at high jumps at the Grand National - "G'wan ye boy ye". Sit on a dead horse - "You inhuman monster!"

                                                                    It's quite funny from the outside at what constitutes morality. No-one is remotely complaining about the fact that the dodgy ticker horse was killed by their actions, but take a humorous photo of it and it's plain wrong and disgraceful.

                                                                    I'm not having a go at people in the industry, I just think it's weird.

                                                                    In the other place I saw a thread on the front page from the Farming forum on what to do about an aggressive bull. I thought that sounded interesting and read it. Half of the posts from the farmers seemed to jokes about "Straight to Burger King with it" and whatnot. I was surprised by that, but then reckoned dark humour must just be a part of it.

                                                                    This obviously doesn't apply to horse racing given the reaction to the photo. Not having any connection with it I'm not sure why.
                                                                    I'm curious as to why you are surprised. Do you think people who make money from animals would have an inherent respect or fondness for them? You can't be shipping off creatures to be slaughtered on a regular basis and have some attachment to them. Just like you can't send horses out to be beaten round a field with a significant chance that the animal will not come back alive whilst maintaining the pretence that you have the animal's best interest at heart. They are merely commodities to be profited from.

                                                                    Incidents like those you've described lift the veil to those of us on the outside of these industries and the cold, harsh, reality can be shocking. It's up to those of us who believe that such practices are anachronistic to make our voices heard and hopefully affect change through political means.
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                                                                      Originally posted by Silly Gilly View Post

                                                                      I'm curious as to why you are surprised. Do you think people who make money from animals would have an inherent respect or fondness for them? You can't be shipping off creatures to be slaughtered on a regular basis and have some attachment to them. Just like you can't send horses out to be beaten round a field with a significant chance that the animal will not come back alive whilst maintaining the pretence that you have the animal's best interest at heart. They are merely commodities to be profited from.

                                                                      Incidents like those you've described lift the veil to those of us on the outside of these industries and the cold, harsh, reality can be shocking. It's up to those of us who believe that such practices are anachronistic to make our voices heard and hopefully effect change through political means.
                                                                      No horse racing = no racehorses. Just a thought...
                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                        Did somebody say Beetlejuice three times or wha?
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                                                                          Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                          Did somebody say Beetlejuice three times or wha?
                                                                          I'm watching carefully
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                                                                            Young wans swing coming together.



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                                                                              Virgin didnt bother getting the CL games for next season so it's back to things being like the old days with whatever English team is playing being on RTE. Was good while it lasted tbf.

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                                                                                https://www.britishhorseracing.com/p...elliott-image/

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                                                                                  I guess that counts as blowback
                                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                      That puts serious pressure on Kavanagh.
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                                                                                        Originally posted by dobby View Post
                                                                                        Virgin didnt bother getting the CL games for next season so it's back to things being like the old days with whatever English team is playing being on RTE. Was good while it lasted tbf.
                                                                                        Did they show less this year?
                                                                                        I remember us commenting at the time on how great it was to have every game on live, but on Thursdays this year they only seemed to show the UK teams.
                                                                                        Even though there was some decent looking non-uk games, especially in the knockouts.

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                                                                                          Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                          That puts serious pressure on Kavanagh.
                                                                                          Be interested to hear what the racing enthusiasts
                                                                                          here think of the job he's doing overall.

                                                                                          It's a genuine question but in fairness
                                                                                          I should also say that's he's a cousin of mine.

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                                                                                            Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post

                                                                                            Did they show less this year?
                                                                                            I remember us commenting at the time on how great it was to have every game on live, but on Thursdays this year they only seemed to show the UK teams.
                                                                                            Even though there was some decent looking non-uk games, especially in the knockouts.
                                                                                            Yeah, they only showed British teams games in EL. A bone of contention when they were clearly advertising, every game live multiple times on Tuesdays and Wednesdays in relation to Thursday games.

                                                                                            They had every CL game tbf which was great but as you say, we missed some tasty games not involving the British teams.

                                                                                            Wonder would they make a bid for any GAA after missing out on the CL now.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by DeeBrown View Post

                                                                                              Be interested to hear what the racing enthusiasts
                                                                                              here think of the job he's doing overall.

                                                                                              It's a genuine question but in fairness
                                                                                              I should also say that's he's a cousin of mine.
                                                                                              His currency had risen a bit through solid handling of covid but took a knock over a couple of recent missteps over security and integrity.

                                                                                              Not sure if this kerfuffle will be his defining moment but if he gets it wrong it could be.

                                                                                              No matter what happens he should go at the end of his term.
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                                                                                                More fuel for the fire as ex staff member makes some nasty accusations on fb.
                                                                                                It'll be interesting to see which story hurts him the most.
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                                                                                                  Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                                                  More fuel for the fire as ex staff member makes some nasty accusations on fb.
                                                                                                  It'll be interesting to see which story hurts him the most.
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                                                                                                  Any word on how the photo got out? Someone was sitting on that for a long time.
                                                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                                                    Young wans swing coming together.



                                                                                                    Her release is great! Super solid swing.
                                                                                                    "The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity."

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                                                                                                      Have never been a fan of GE but the pile-on on Twitter is sickening. Deleted the app, it's a horrible fucking timesink.

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by mcnugget View Post
                                                                                                        Have never been a fan of GE but the pile-on on Twitter is sickening. Deleted the app, it's a horrible fucking timesink.
                                                                                                        'No Twitter, No Trump'.

                                                                                                        It is indeed a cesspool.
                                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                          Any word on how the photo got out? Someone was sitting on that for a long time.
                                                                                                          Nothing certain.
                                                                                                          The labaik connection is a fun rumour, that and a woman scorned are the two theories.
                                                                                                          But likely both shite
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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                            That puts serious pressure on Kavanagh.
                                                                                                            Kavanagh has no jurisdiction here. HRI are an administrative body. IHRB are the licensing body.

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                                                                                                              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                              Did somebody say Beetlejuice three times or wha?
                                                                                                              Ha! Good one.

                                                                                                              Meanwhile your beloved shitty industry is self-imploding. Video this time...



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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Gimmeabreak View Post

                                                                                                                  Kavanagh has no jurisdiction here. HRI are an administrative body. IHRB are the licensing body.
                                                                                                                  True, I was thinking in terms of tone and influence rather than the actual ihrb decision.


                                                                                                                  Edit: I guess its unprecedented so whether its being expedited because of BHA ruling or because they realised they needed to be seen to act swiftly is moot.

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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                                                                    Did he do that on porpoise aswel?
                                                                                                                    I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                                                                                      True, I was thinking in terms of tone and influence rather than the actual ihrb decision.

                                                                                                                      What do we know about the ihrb process for this,, unlikely they would ever be expected to report within a fortnight on something like this?
                                                                                                                      What do we think should happen?

                                                                                                                      He should get a lengthy ban imo. The optics of this (especially in a minority sport that gets vast amounts of taxpayer largesse, directly and indirectly) are shocking.

                                                                                                                      Anyone in the industry actually sticking their heads up above the parapet and saying anything?
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        The performative uproar from the horse racing insiders is hilarious, their annoyance at GE is not about the lack of respect for the animal it’s about the curtain being pulled back.
                                                                                                                        watching the bookies scrambling to dump association with GE had me in stitches
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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                                          What do we think should happen?

                                                                                                                          He should get a lengthy ban imo. The optics of this (especially in a minority sport that gets vast amounts of taxpayer largesse, directly and indirectly) are shocking.

                                                                                                                          Anyone in the industry actually sticking their heads up above the parapet and saying anything?
                                                                                                                          Not sure thats the best approach. Maybe that could be part of it. But it was a few years ago. Surely a better solution would be launch a public inquiry into animal cruelty in horse racing. As in, that would have the most impact on the horsies.
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