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    Originally posted by Dice75 View Post

    He attacked a Guard with a machete and got shot.
    Did he attack a guard?

    Was he armed with a machete?
    Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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      I don't think the argument should be about where they shoot but why they shoot and mostly IMO we should be focussing on why there are not more effective non deadly ways to immobilise someone who is out of control. For instance could no one find a net to throw over him, a 5000 year old technology that we know works.

      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

      I think anything that states 'racist Gardai shot black man, this wouldn't have happened if he was white. Let's all do BLM protests outside the GPO.' is just a completely false narrative.
      To be fair, you don't know that it wasn't a racist Garda for certain any more than the people trying to make it a race issue know their version to be true.

      If there was ever a case for waiting for GSOC to report this is it. Hopefullly it will be thorough and completed in a timely manner.
      Last edited by Strewelpeter; 04-01-21, 19:13.
      Turning millions into thousands

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        Tore a muscle in my poxy calf this evening while jogging along well within my comfort zone... could have done without that after putting on 5Kg in the last 2 months.

        FFS! Feels pretty bad right now guesstimating at least a week or two before I'm allowed use it again. Are the physio's even open tomorrow?
        Turning millions into thousands

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          Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

          Did he attack a guard?

          Was he armed with a machete?
          Answers seem to be 'yes' and 'a knife rather than a machete' respectively.

          Video footage capturing the shooting appears to show Mr Nkencho swinging and lunging at gardaí, with what is thought to have been a knife or bladed-weapon, when shots were discharged.

          The footage shows Mr Nkencho continued to move and swing around even after initial shots were fired.
          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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            Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

            Did he attack a guard?

            Was he armed with a machete?
            Wasn't there so no idea, just going on media reports. Maybe he was offering them all a Christmas drink.

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              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
              Tore a muscle in my poxy calf this evening while jogging along well within my comfort zone... could have done without that after putting on 5Kg in the last 2 months.

              FFS! Feels pretty bad right now guesstimating at least a week or two before I'm allowed use it again. Are the physio's even open tomorrow?
              Yup they are - was at one today

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                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                Answers seem to be 'yes' and 'a knife rather than a machete' respectively.


                Two shots.

                What appears to be a lunge.

                Two shots.

                Significant pause.

                Final shot.

                So two shots were fired prior to any 'attack'. Self defence?
                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                  Originally posted by Dice75 View Post

                  Wasn't there so no idea, just going on media reports. Maybe he was offering them all a Christmas drink.
                  Didn't see that in any reputable media reports.
                  Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                    Classic stats humour


                    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                      Thoughts and prayers with the WFH crew with school age kids

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                        Originally posted by Wombatman View Post



                        Two shots.

                        What appears to be a lunge.

                        Two shots.

                        Significant pause.

                        Final shot.

                        So two shots were fired prior to any 'attack'. Self defence?
                        What, you reckon Nkencho attacked the Guards in self-defence? Interesting theory.
                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                          A-Levels and GCSEs cancelled again in England.
                          Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                            Originally posted by Trippie View Post
                            The shooting is something my parents talked about. I find it laughable that there's suggestions to aim for legs or shoulders. Don't remember John Wick being a Garda.

                            I've a friend here who does competition pistol shooting where he moves around the course and hits targets and all that nonsense. The accuracy required when stressed, moving and under pressure compared to just shooting at a tree or target is night and day. It's basically centre mass or nothing.
                            My mammy agrees with me too.

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                              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                              Tore a muscle in my poxy calf this evening while jogging along well within my comfort zone... could have done without that after putting on 5Kg in the last 2 months.

                              FFS! Feels pretty bad right now guesstimating at least a week or two before I'm allowed use it again. Are the physio's even open tomorrow?
                              A small fortune its costing me

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                                The step counter on the phone suggests I've averaged about 2000 steps a day for the last week. Basically sedentary.
                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                  Originally posted by Theresa View Post

                                  Ah good. I’m getting some alternative thoughts on it from some corners but I’d be fairly similar in thinking to that succinct summary.
                                  It's mad how often incidents like this come up where someone's preconception completely determines their interpretation of an event. Usually after reading a headline.

                                  ​​​​​​i know a lot of people who were straight to "the guards are trigger happy racists". While others were using it to back their racism.


                                  Makes you wonder how much free will we have. How much thinking we actually do on a day to day business versus just using whatever synapse is warmed up.
                                  Last edited by Denny Crane; 04-01-21, 23:24.

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                                    Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post
                                    It's mad how often incidents like this come up where someone's preconception completely determines their interpretation of an event. Usually after reading a headline.

                                    ​​​​​​i know a lot of people who were straight to "the guards are trigger happy racists". While others were using it to back their racism.


                                    Makes you wonder how much free will we have. How much thinking we actually do on a day to day business versus just using whatever synapse is warmed up.
                                    I'd say maybe 90% of us went to 'that seems unfortunate but probably justified'. It's just that the five percent on either side tend to be people with microphones.

                                    As in our default views are probably pretty uniform and save us getting too distracted by unimportant things.
                                    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                      Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post
                                      It's mad how often incidents like this come up where someone's preconception completely determines their interpretation of an event. Usually after reading a headline.

                                      ​​​​​​i know a lot of people who were straight to "the guards are trigger happy racists". While others were using it to back their racism.


                                      Makes you wonder how much free will we have. How much thinking we actually do on a day to day business versus just using whatever synapse is warmed up.
                                      Oh man. I hear you. Ive a buddy who wilfully admitted going down the George was a dirty scumbag road only the admit his embarrassment a day later. And another that fully still believes it was because he was black. and then there is me who is staunch pro police in this scenario based on what I've read.

                                      Then you'll have some who believe he was a bit of a scumbag, the guards are a bit racist but were right in this scenario just to sound nuanced and reasonable.

                                      People having differing opinions is one thing but we really are just happily all meandering down the path of polarization, where being right is much more important than learning.
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                                      All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                      The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                        I see some gobshite starting in our mutual uni's law gov department issued his first tweet on the job as "I'm doing this for all the black guys like george who didn't make it into 2021". The mind boggles as to the quality of research he's going to produce.
                                        ​​​​​.
                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                          Originally posted by Theresa View Post


                                          People having differing opinions is one thing but we really are just happily all meandering down the path of polarization, where being right is much more important than learning.
                                          What transpired is not matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. The conclusion jumping, from both, maybe all sides, is the most unfortunate aspect of the aftermath IMHO.

                                          So much we don't know. Like how things kicked off in the shop for a start.
                                          Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                            Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                            What transpired is not matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. The conclusion jumping, from both, maybe all sides, is the most unfortunate aspect of the aftermath IMHO.

                                            So much we don't know. Like how things kicked off in the shop for a start.
                                            It does seem like you have a different version of the facts than others, or are you just asking questions?
                                            This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                            All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                            The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                              Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                              What transpired is not matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. The conclusion jumping, from both, maybe all sides, is the most unfortunate aspect of the aftermath IMHO.

                                              So much we don't know. Like how things kicked off in the shop for a start.
                                              Do you think the shopkeeper was in on it with the police. Maybe he gets kickbacks for every blackman the police gets to shoot after being riled up by the shopkeeper.
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                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                The step counter on the phone suggests I've averaged about 2000 steps a day for the last week. Basically sedentary.
                                                I had similar yesterday which is a bad indicator for the new WFH situation.

                                                My new role requires facetime calls which limits my ability to continue my previous walking calls.
                                                They were perfect as you knew it's largely irrelevant to you for the first hour so almost no chance of being asked a question until you arrive back.

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                                                  Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                  How the fk so?

                                                  Shoot to kill ?
                                                  When the perpetrator has a gun, shoot to kill for obvious reasons.
                                                  I understand your logic here; it’s a knife, step back, shoot a leg, drop him, don’t kill him. But it’s incorrect.

                                                  The armed unit are trained to only shoot where there is an immediate treat and risk. Once he lunged, that risk presented, so he was shot. Had he been shot in a limb, he could have continued his attack and stabbed somebody. In fact, the first round that hit him hit a limb, and he didn’t stop him.

                                                  If order to use limb shots effectively, you’d need to shoot people before that attack or present an immediate threat. And yes, that could have shot his legs 20 seconds earlier and he might have survived.
                                                  As nobody has physic powers, that would mean shooting in cases were a lethal shot would not have been required.
                                                  Basically, if you utilise leg shots as the strategy, you’d end up having to shoot more people overall. Which could end up causing more deaths. There’s a argument to be made that that could be the strategy. But it isn’t. So you can’t retrospectively and selectively say they should have after the fact.
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                                                    Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                    So much we don't know. Like how things kicked off in the shop for a start.
                                                    Maybe it's completely normal to carry a lethal weapon with you when you go down to the shops for The Sun and a litre of milk.
                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                      Screw you guys . I went out with a nerf gun last night Hit approx 70% of the legs I aimed for and that's WITH the wind swaying some shots off target like a Liverpool centre forward. Zero fatalities. . I reckon I could take down a blanch thug from 6 feet. I deffo wouldn't be hiding 30 feet away behind Maguire's van hoping to hit his body mass. I WIN .

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                                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                        Maybe it's completely normal to carry a lethal weapon with you when you go down to the shops for The Sun and a litre of milk.
                                                        Ever been to Blanch?

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                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                          Ever been to Blanch?
                                                          Just outside of Cannes, yes I think I've been there. Nice little one star place.

                                                          Go to the NAC quite a bit if that counts.
                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                            Any chance the schools open before Paddy's day?
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                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                              Just outside of Cannes, yes I think I've been there. Nice little one star place.

                                                              Go to the NAC quite a bit if that counts.
                                                              Got into a scrap by the pirates ship. Little Antos trying to skip my kid on the water slide . Knife was in the locker room luckily for me

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                                                                Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                Got into a scrap by the pirates ship. Little Antos trying to skip my kid on the water slide . Knife was in the locker room luckily for me
                                                                I can see you in your 1985 speedos now. You're a fine figure of a man to be sure.
                                                                "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                  Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
                                                                  Any chance the schools open before Paddy's day?
                                                                  why, are you thinking of enrolling?
                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                    I can see you in your 1985 speedos now. You're a fine figure of a man to be sure.
                                                                    Whilst you are correct , I wear the ankle huggers . In some ways just as redic looking but it does cover my battle scars . I do have a rather unpleasant 4 inch scar on the left leg

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                                                                      Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                      I do have a rather unpleasant 4 inch scar on the left leg
                                                                      Anto on the pirate ship the last time?

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                                                                        Originally posted by Mellor View Post

                                                                        Anto on the pirate ship the last time?
                                                                        Should have aimed for my body mass

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                                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                          Should have aimed for my body mass
                                                                          Hard to miss a target that size tbf
                                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                            Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                            A-Levels and GCSEs cancelled again in England.
                                                                            Son number 1 doing GCSEs this year. has been studying all xmas holidays for the mocks coming up which i told him were probably going to be the only exams this year (and therefore a big consideration for end of year grades) so he'd better nail them. Bit gutted as he won't even got to do those!!! what a fucking shambles!

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                                                                              Regretting selling the 14 ether I built up over the first pandemic. Would be worth €12,000 now vs the €6,000 I think I got for selling them in September. Or maybe it was €5,000.

                                                                              Shouldn't be second guessing good ideas. Although think we needed the money at the time.
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                                                                                Originally posted by shrapnel View Post

                                                                                Son number 1 doing GCSEs this year. has been studying all xmas holidays for the mocks coming up which i told him were probably going to be the only exams this year (and therefore a big consideration for end of year grades) so he'd better nail them. Bit gutted as he won't even got to do those!!! what a fucking shambles!
                                                                                That's what you get for educating your children outside the EU.
                                                                                "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                  Originally posted by shrapnel View Post
                                                                                  First screeners are out and they're good ones (I hope)

                                                                                  Nomadland
                                                                                  Promising young woman
                                                                                  The nest
                                                                                  Nomadland

                                                                                  i don't think this would have worked with anyone other than Frances McDormand. She's nailed on for the oscar, and possibly the director as well. Halfway between a documentary and a fictional piece steeped in poetry, Frances glides along this beautifully shot work effortlessly. 8/10

                                                                                  The nest

                                                                                  interesting drama set in the 80s with Jude Law and Carrie Coon about an anglo american couple who move their family to London only to watch it fall apart piece by piece. Well shot and really enjoyable although felt some scenes were just a bit poorer for ad libbing. 7/10

                                                                                  promising young woman

                                                                                  First movie from the director of killing eve. A revenge movie with plenty of dark humor as you'd expect, and a fantastic performance by Carrie Mulligan. Really enjoyed this one. 7.5/10

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                    I don't think the argument should be about where they shoot but why they shoot and mostly IMO we should be focussing on why there are not more effective non deadly ways to immobilise someone who is out of control. For instance could no one find a net to throw over him, a 5000 year old technology that we know works.



                                                                                    To be fair, you don't know that it wasn't a racist Garda for certain any more than the people trying to make it a race issue know their version to be true.

                                                                                    If there was ever a case for waiting for GSOC to report this is it. Hopefullly it will be thorough and completed in a timely manner.
                                                                                    I can imagine the headlines.
                                                                                    This too shall pass.

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                                                                                      Originally posted by shrapnel View Post
                                                                                      promising young woman

                                                                                      First movie from the director of killing eve. A revenge movie with plenty of dark humor as you'd expect, and a fantastic performance by Carrie Mulligan. Really enjoyed this one. 7.5/10
                                                                                      Seen the trailer for this about a year ago looked interesting. It’s on in the outdoor cinema tomorrow, would be tempted in giving it a spin.

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                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                        I don't think the argument should be about where they shoot but why they shoot
                                                                                        If there is immediate and real risk to the life or immediate and serious risk to the health of a member of AGS or the public. That's when they shoot. That's not a mystery. If he shoots for any other reason then he's in serious trouble.


                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                        and mostly IMO we should be focussing on why there are not more effective non deadly ways to immobilise someone who is out of control. For instance could no one find a net to throw over him, a 5000 year old technology that we know works.
                                                                                        These lads aren't inspector gadget. How much equipment do you think they carry with them? We need to live in the real world here.


                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                        To be fair, you don't know that it wasn't a racist Garda for certain any more than the people trying to make it a race issue know their version to be true.
                                                                                        I don't know the Garda wasn't actually a Terminator sent from the future to eliminate the saviour of all mankind from the robot tyranny. But I am not asserting that. Nor was RDIII. He wasn't suggesting the Garda was or was not anything. He was pointing out that the leap from "black man gets shot" to "Garda who shot him was motivated to murder by racism" is a pretty big one and the people making that suggestion have absolutely no basis for it.

                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                        If there was ever a case for waiting for GSOC to report this is it. Hopefullly it will be thorough and completed in a timely manner.
                                                                                        On this we totally agree.
                                                                                        You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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                                                                                            Originally posted by Mellor View Post

                                                                                            Seen the trailer for this about a year ago looked interesting. It’s on in the outdoor cinema tomorrow, would be tempted in giving it a spin.
                                                                                            subject matter is a tough one, but she's really managed to mix it up in such a way so as not to be overwhelming or flippant, but needless to say it was a great watch.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by oleras View Post

                                                                                              I can imagine the headlines.
                                                                                              I think it was Wombatman that suggested setting dogs on him and I had that exact thought.

                                                                                              Spose at least he would be alive though.
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                                                                                                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                That's what you get for educating your children outside the EU.
                                                                                                Actually, on a semi-serious note, would you be OK to send kids to university in the UK or will there be barriers in place going forward that will make that prohibitive? i.e. would you be paying fees at the 'dirty non-British Johnny Foreigner' level?
                                                                                                "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                  Originally posted by oleras View Post

                                                                                                  I can imagine the headlines.
                                                                                                  On the face of it not the funniest thing I've read in ages but then I sure did chortle to the point of urination . Throwing a net over a black man .

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                    Actually, on a semi-serious note, would you be OK to send kids to university in the UK or will there be barriers in place going forward that will make that prohibitive? i.e. would you be paying fees at the 'dirty non-British Johnny Foreigner' level?
                                                                                                    i definitely would prefer my kids go to UK universities. much prefer the system here than in France. As residents (over 3 or 5 years in the UK, can't remember) they'd be treated the same as British citizens and pay the same rates.

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                                      I think it was Wombatman that suggested setting dogs on him and I had that exact thought.

                                                                                                      Spose at least he would be alive though.
                                                                                                      THROW HIM TO THE FLOOOR

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                                                                                                        Strewls idea to throw a net on the knife wielding man who had injured someone already and had ample opportunity to drop the weapon has me in tears

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                                                          Ever been to Blanch?
                                                                                                          Fado fado fado...lads I knew from North side used to call the lads from Blanch knacker culchies
                                                                                                          Culchies who really want to be knackers(not in the traveller sense)

                                                                                                          Did they finally get their wish... did they finally dream it into a shithole?

                                                                                                          Place seemed pretty tame whenever I was out there
                                                                                                          PMA

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Elshambles View Post

                                                                                                            Fado fado fado...lads I knew from North side used to call the lads from Blanch knacker culchies
                                                                                                            Culchies who really want to be knackers(not in the traveller sense)

                                                                                                            Did they finally get their wish... did they finally dream it into a shithole?

                                                                                                            Place seemed pretty tame whenever I was out there
                                                                                                            Seriously I dont think it's too bad there either but ya know yourself Mulhuddart is worse.

                                                                                                            SP net comment still has me laughing. Reminded me of.

                                                                                                            Get your stinking paws off me at 2 00 in this

                                                                                                             

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                                                                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                              Maybe it's completely normal to carry a lethal weapon with you when you go down to the shops for The Sun and a litre of milk.
                                                                                                              Did he have a knife on him before he got to the shop, or did he pick it up during the altercation with the manager?
                                                                                                              Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                                                Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                                Did he have a knife on him before he got to the shop, or did he pick it up during the altercation with the manager?
                                                                                                                Garda statement


                                                                                                                Gardaí, in their official statement regarding the matter, said Mr Nkencho had entered a Spar shop in Hartstown, armed with a knife.

                                                                                                                During that incident, a staff member was assaulted and had to be treated in hospital for his injuries. He has since been released.

                                                                                                                TheJournal.ie has clarified, through gardaí, that the man was hurt but was not stabbed or slashed with a knife during the assault.



                                                                                                                Mr Nkencho continued to threaten members of the public and unarmed Gardaí with a knife, a garda statement said.

                                                                                                                Gardai followed him on foot and in vehicles from the Hartstown Shopping Centre towards his family home at Manorfields Drive, Dublin 15. During this period Gardaí were engaging him and encouraging him to drop the weapon.

                                                                                                                Mr Nkencho was shot several times by a garda gun at Manorfields Drive in Clonee after allegedly attempting to attack a garda with a knife.
                                                                                                                https://www.thejournal.ie/george-nke...mpression=true
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                                                                                                                  So this is the start of the statement I'm seeing most quoted:

                                                                                                                  "Gardai responded to reports of a public order incident involving a male, in his late twenties, armed with a knife at Hartstown Shopping Centre.

                                                                                                                  "During an incident at the EuroSpar business premises in Hartstown Shopping Centre a male staff member received facial injuries and is currently receiving medical attention in Connolly Memorial Hospital."

                                                                                                                  Can you find me a direct quote from a Garda statement? What you quoted is paraphrasing.

                                                                                                                  Note 'public order' above, not robbery.

                                                                                                                  Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                                                    'Relevance your honour?'

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                                      So this is the start of the statement I'm seeing most quoted:

                                                                                                                      "Gardai responded to reports of a public order incident involving a male, in his late twenties, armed with a knife at Hartstown Shopping Centre.

                                                                                                                      "During an incident at the EuroSpar business premises in Hartstown Shopping Centre a male staff member received facial injuries and is currently receiving medical attention in Connolly Memorial Hospital."

                                                                                                                      Can you find me a direct quote from a Garda statement? What you quoted is paraphrasing.

                                                                                                                      Note 'public order' above, not robbery.
                                                                                                                      I don't know what alterative facts you're trying to create (or why) but here is a direct Garda quote:

                                                                                                                      The incident began when gardaí earlier received reports of a public order incident involving a male armed with a knife at Hartstown shopping centre.

                                                                                                                      A staff member at Eurospar received facial injuries and another incident was reported at the nearby post office.

                                                                                                                      Uniformed, unarmed gardaí responded to the scene and observed a male in possession of a knife. The male continued to threaten members of the public and unarmed gardaí with the knife,” said a statement from the Garda press office.
                                                                                                                      Guards were called to the shop where Nkencho had a knife. They followed him from there.
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        On a lighter note, I have 4 months+ of planning for my new home-office to get stuck into chairs and desk reviews.

                                                                                                                        What are we all sitting on these days? Any good recommendations? Don't want to overspend but have also been crippled by horrific chairs for last year now, so am happy to budget up if required.

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                                          Did he have a knife on him before he got to the shop, or did he pick it up during the altercation with the manager?
                                                                                                                          Eurospar have announced that they don’t sell knives but do sell papers and drinks

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