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    The problem with religion along with things like pseudo-scientific beliefs is not that they are not beneficial for some people, I can see how important and beneficial they are in a lot of peoples lives. The issue I have, and it is the same for all of the woo I see is that it is an attack on critical thinking of the beholder and society around them. So while somebody might feel better after a reiki session, the core ideas that have brought people to the point that they believe in the moon charging their crystals, has led to people pretending to use hand sanitizer in shops, burning down 5G masts and not letting their children get life saving treatment in favour of dock leaves. It has only begun and it will get worse and I think the negative consequences of a lack of critical thinking will far outweigh any positives to individuals.

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      Can I still wear my lucky underpants to poker tournaments and refuse to back grey horses in this brave new world governed by logical thinking?

      (also a hearty lol at proselytising atheists)
      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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        Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post

        I'd keep it relatively short so it wasn't overly time-consuming. Something like, each match is just an opening statement and reply to your opponents' statement. Each a day apart with a reasonable word limit. Perhaps a small price for the winner. Any other takers?
        Wouldnt be able to start this until after the 10th.
        I'm getting in to my busiest time now. It's a lot of work crammed into a short space of time so cant afford distractions or procrastination.

        Would give it a go after that despite or maybe because of my semi crippling anxiety!


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          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
          (also a hearty lol at proselytising atheists)
          No such thing as a proselytising atheist. I’m not trying to convince anyone. Like I said, keep your comfort blanket.
          You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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            Forest Gump does have a great soundtrack. Sez he 26 years later .

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              Originally posted by Kayroo View Post

              No such thing as a proselytising atheist. I’m not trying to convince anyone. Like I said, keep your comfort blanket.
              I take my advice on religion from Kinky Friedman:

              May the God of your choice bless and keep you. I respect Him as long as He does not try to circumcise me again.
              "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                Originally posted by Kayroo View Post

                Because it is nonsense and contemptible nonsense at that.

                I don’t hold stories of the tooth-fairy in contempt because they don’t inform education policy, ownership of most hospitals or seek to influence public policy. Religion is just a complete joke that is only given any form of respect because a lot of people decide to subscribe to it. But viewed objectively it’s just a silly comfort blanket. Now, by all means you keep your comfort blanket and enjoy it. I won’t seek to remove it from you or anyone else. But when you try and make me use it or live my life in any way influenced by it, well then we will have a problem.

                People finding it valuable doesn’t make religion or religious beliefs true or good. It’s all just fairy stories. Why would I not be contemptuous of an organized form of fairy worship?
                100%

                I think like Tar says it's also pretty dangerous for the religious person too. People who should be working on their problems so they can live the more fulfilling lives they want are instead relying on the poor man's therapy of religion.

                I find it almost impossible to take any part of religious people seriously. Like say with fellow professors. That they have this obvious logical flaw at the heart of their thinking process and their job is developing new logical thoughts. It's not a blanket acceptance of non-religious people, but you'd tend to judge them on a more individual basis.
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                  Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                  Forest Gump does have a great soundtrack. Sez he 26 years later .
                  https://youtu.be/40JmEj0_aVM

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                    Turning millions into thousands

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                      Originally posted by Kayroo View Post
                      Why would I not be contemptuous of an organized form of fairy worship?
                      Because looking for comfort in the metaphysical is such a human thing to do. It is a feature of every culture because man needs to create God to sooth his fears of the great unknown. We tribalise it in an effort to validate it. Not a million miles away from being a rabid Dublin GAA fan really .

                      Empathy, understanding and compassion might serve you better than contempt.
                      Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                        I find myself jealous sometimes of people who "know", when the end comes they will live happily ever after in paradise with everyone they ever loved, because the alternative, having as much impact on the universe as an ameba would be heart breaking.
                        This too shall pass.

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                          Originally posted by oleras View Post
                          I find myself jealous sometimes of people who "know", when the end comes they will live happily ever after in paradise with everyone they ever loved, because the alternative, having as much impact on the universe as an ameba would be heart breaking.
                          Isn't that part of the flaw of the whole thing. This bizarre belief some religions instill that every single 'soul' will go on living forever. We've a massively inflated sense of our own importance to think thats the case. So to some extent you maybe only find it heart-breaking because religion gave you this over-inflated notion of how important an individual life is. Thats not to put down each individual life. We as a brilliant global society have decided each life is precious on earth and thats fairly sweet.
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                            Irrespective of the IPBs well read collective IQ on the great questions in life . Ye know feck all in the greater scheme of things . This is fact. I'm anti religion myself but on the bigger question of spirituality we all have our own personal journey. and experiences that can exist is whatever realm we sense. I myself am happy in cuckoo land

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                              Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                              Because looking for comfort in the metaphysical is such a human thing to do. It is a feature of every culture because man needs to create God to sooth his fears of the great unknown. We tribalise it in an effort to validate it. Not a million miles away from being a rabid Dublin GAA fan really .

                              Empathy, understanding and compassion might serve you better than contempt.
                              I have empathy, understanding and compassion for people, not for stupid ideas. And my contempt is limited to when those stupid ideas start trying to influence things with which I interact. Like I said, tooth fairy has no contempt from me because nobody is saying that my son has to pray to the tooth fairy in school.

                              I also believe taking comfort in delusion lessens the human experience. Why surrender your mortality to divine certainty when you can live it to the full knowing that this is the fleeting spark of humanity that we get to enjoy so we had best do all we can to enjoy it? Why concede the wonders of the universe to a feckless divine tyrant when we can plumb the mysteries of creation itself from the very beginning of time?

                              Religion was the first idea we had to comfort us from the uncertainty of death. But we don’t need it anymore. It’s a failed idea. My contempt is for those who hang on to it as a means of wielding temporal power and influence. I have no time to be dictated to by people who take their lead from Iron Age zealots.
                              You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                I've invested, like all cool kids, in the nations favourite breadmaker. A stunning 4.8/5 rating from over 1500 reviews on Amazon. Can't seem to find anything other than the most basic flour in the local Tescos, Odlums plain white. Where would one source the good stuff? Strong flour, I think its called. Is it maybe that you need to go to a specialist place or just a bigger supermarket? Just a nice big flour shop: a flour emporium? Flour me up, people.
                                you're shopping in tesco is the issue for a start if you have foodie at home plans get thee to somewhere like Fallon and Byrne, Avoca or Butlers Pantry. Will pay more but great selection particularly in Fallon and Byrne.

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                                  Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                                  Has anyone read any of Jordan Petersons books and would they care to give a quick review.
                                  Don’t bother , he’s a cabbage (is that term still ok)
                                  “PSV was right all along” -Hitch 20 May 2019

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                                    Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                                    Is Twitter that bad. I hear terms such as "Twitter outrage" "Mob rule" etc bandied about which would seem to indicate that some people attribute a negative connotation at having an opinion on that forum. Dont have an account myself but feel it's worth noting that one can share an opinion with someone else or a number of people but for different reasons. Yet when someone opposes that opinion they can just lump you in with the the morally outraged baying mob.
                                    Seems like a lazy way to discredit a considered stance on something.

                                    Also the emotive language used in arguments is interesting
                                    "criminally incompetent" "baying for blood" "penis rubbing"
                                    Obviously intended to be more persuasive.
                                    Might do an exercise sometime and edit a few posts taking out all the emotive language to see the impact.
                                    If you wiped anyone with more than 10 tweets off the face of the earth very little would be lost (would miss hitch and limmy)
                                    “PSV was right all along” -Hitch 20 May 2019

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                                      That first youtube comment!
                                      This too shall pass.

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                                        Originally posted by oleras View Post


                                        That first youtube comment!
                                        i bet she doesn't see it that way

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                                          Hell is actually 3 kids at home while you're trying to work.

                                          Therefore I am now in heaven, at least until mid-afternoon. Still have no childcare as our minder sacked herself but trying to persuade Mrs D3 that we don't actually need one.
                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                              Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post
                                              My point is that this is a messy process - there is not a clear dividing line that where a word goes from being acceptable to not; or who decides. And words remain, hanging around. Part of the process now is outrage. It clearly isn't an ideal process, but given there is literally no effective alternative that's what we are stuck with.
                                              I appreciate it's a difficult process. And that part of the process may be outrage. But there should certainly be a phrase of polite highlight before jumping to outrage.
                                              And as I suggested above, just because some people decide the word is cancelled doesn't necessarily make that right. That applies now more than ever.
                                              When politics are involved it pretty hard to tell if the outrage is genuine.

                                              A perfect example is Trump. Last year he refer to his impeachment inquiry as a “lynching.” Joe Biden called comment "abhorrent and despicable". Trump quickly faced a backlash from Democrats in the House of Representatives.

                                              Danny Davis, representative for Illinois since 1997, who is black and was born in the South in 1941, said:
                                              “The highest officeholder should think about these words. The rural south where I was born has a tarnished and painful history,”

                                              Fellow democratic representative, Gregory Meeks (also black), said:
                                              “I don’t expect Trump to be sensitive to the weight of that word, or see how insulting and hurtful it is to invoke it here,”

                                              On that alone, I'd respect their view is shaped by their own history, which was a hell of a lot closer the horrors than mine. And if that's what the word means to them, then who should say otherwise.
                                              Of course, that assume the Trump outrage is genuine,and not just another episode of Left v Right.

                                              During proceedings for impeachment of Clinton in 1998, many Democrats argue against it on the House floor.

                                              Danny Davis, also then the Representative for Illinois, said:
                                              "I will not vote for this nightmare before Christmas. I will not vote for this lynching in the people's House."

                                              Gregory Meeks, again same guy, said
                                              "What we are doing here is not a prosecution, it is a persecution and indeed it is a political lynching."

                                              Joe Biden was at that time a Senator, referred to it as a "partisan lynching".

                                              If we decide that it's best left in the past, I'm fine with that. But I'll need more than faux outrage to convince me.

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                                                Surely 50cent in da club didn't help your case?! Yeah I'd say a wee bit of noise in the afternoon would be quite nice. Plus it sends a signal to whoever you are on a call with in the afternoon that work will end and to start wrapping things up.
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                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                  Surely 50cent in da club didn't help your case?! Yeah I'd say a wee bit of noise in the afternoon would be quite nice. Plus it sends a signal to however you are on a call with in the afternoon that work will end and it start wrapping things up.
                                                  Doesn't work that way when most of your colleagues are on EST
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                                                    Stopping work at 5 or 5.30 is definitely an issue with wfh.
                                                    Much easier when in the office to definitively stop at a certain time, then by the time you've commuted and eaten you aren't going to log in to see emails or issues.
                                                    But when you are at your home desk it's much more difficult to call a halt when you still have stuff to deal with and emails piled up.

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                                                      Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
                                                      Stopping work at 5 or 5.30 is definitely an issue with wfh.
                                                      Much easier when in the office to definitively stop at a certain time, then by the time you've commuted and eaten you aren't going to log in to see emails or issues.
                                                      But when you are at your home desk it's much more difficult to call a halt when you still have stuff to deal with and emails piled up.
                                                      It kinda helped when I had an insane period of work from April-July (like 16 hours+ per day and weekends). As in not commuting actually got me back an hour in the day that I didn't have.

                                                      Now that things have returned to semi-normal, I do have to force myself to log off by 6. Working primarily with Americans in a deadline-driven business is a pain for that reason. The old South African job was much better in that they were only ever a max of 2 hours ahead. That said, I think I see some Australian hours in my future as well.
                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                        Great year to be an 18 year old inner city mad lad. The media powers have determined that grades shouldn't be corrected to proper distributions. So boys, who are historically overexpected to perform well and end up underperforming will keep their overexpected grades. While poor area schools where normally people do awful will keep higher grades.

                                                        It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, except that giving false grades will be celebrated as a victory for those recipients, while really what those people need is more spending on inner city schools to improve real educational achievement and implementing a plan to address the massive underperformance of boys in schools, especially poor boys.
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                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                          Great year to be an 18 year old inner city mad lad. The media powers have determined that grades shouldn't be corrected to proper distributions. So boys, who are historically overexpected to perform well and end up underperforming will keep their overexpected grades. While poor area schools where normally people do awful will keep higher grades.

                                                          It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, except that giving false grades will be celebrated as a victory for those recipients, while really what those people need is more spending on inner city schools to improve real educational achievement and implementing a plan to address the massive underperformance of boys in schools, especially poor boys.
                                                          Do you know how the leaving certificate is usually marked? The way they weight certain questions etc?
                                                          You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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                                                            Overall i haven't minded the WFH experience but longing for the office in my circumstances.

                                                            The 8 weeks of hard lockdown we kept our 2 year old on site. Both of us are busy. Work was flexible and we got out a few times a day which was grand but he spent way too much time in front of the TV which i felt bad about.

                                                            Since he's gone back to be minded by the Grannies it's been fine but she's about to pop and is now on Maternity. Newborn with 2 year old running around and her on 10 months Maternity is going to be unbridled agony.

                                                            Office not back till March at least.

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                                                              The Quality Street appeared in Aldi today, like an ominous IPB gift €4.90 a 650g tub with best before date May 2021

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                                                                Also some strong white flour, though that was just a few bags.

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                                                                  Tesco sell a 00 flour but the typeface they use makes it hard to see

                                                                  Wife ordered stuff a few weeks ago from kateskitchen.ie, breadflour and Nduja sausage, never tasted it before but i would brush my teeth with it if i could !



                                                                  This too shall pass.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Kayroo View Post

                                                                    I’m not sure there’s a single book I would recommend. It’s mostly about learning to avoid and identify logical flaws and fallacies. So any decent book on formal logic would be a good start. AC Grayling has a wonderful book on the history of philosophy which I think was imaginatively called “The History of Philosophy”. Daniel Kahnemann’s book “Thinking Fast and Slow” isn’t 100% what you’re looking for but it’s excellent and deals with logical and cognitive failings and flaws.

                                                                    Maybe something like “The Fundamentals of Critical Argumentation” by Douglas Walton or something like that? It’s supposedly quite a good primer on what I think you’re after but I’ve honestly not read it myself.
                                                                    Thinking Fast and Slow is an excellent read. I'd also recommend Fooled by Randomness and the Farnam Street book The Great Mental Models.

                                                                    Don't think any of these are specifically related to presenting an argument. But I find they serve as good material on understanding how to think which is related to critically analysing an argument. Totally agree with Kayroo's point about learning to identify and avoid logical fallacies.
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                                                                      Tesco flour, previous message wouldent let me link for some reason.
                                                                      This too shall pass.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                        Overall i haven't minded the WFH experience but longing for the office in my circumstances.

                                                                        The 8 weeks of hard lockdown we kept our 2 year old on site. Both of us are busy. Work was flexible and we got out a few times a day which was grand but he spent way too much time in front of the TV which i felt bad about.

                                                                        Since he's gone back to be minded by the Grannies it's been fine but she's about to pop and is now on Maternity. Newborn with 2 year old running around and her on 10 months Maternity is going to be unbridled agony.

                                                                        Office not back till March at least.
                                                                        I'm playing the afterschool hero for the next 2 weeks (Mrs D3 has to do her work in-person, onsite) and then I think I'll start going into the office 3 days a week once it is proven they can be trusted to be in the house without setting it on fire\stabbing each other. It's open now but is a bit zombie apocalypse, given the lack of humans in the building.
                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                          Originally posted by Kayroo View Post

                                                                          Do you know how the leaving certificate is usually marked? The way they weight certain questions etc?
                                                                          I was a marker for UK GCSEs before, so there's no obvious reason why it would be different. They'll essentially have quite rigid marking schemes on how marks can be allocated - to ensure some sort of consistency as thousands of people will be grading the papers. The mark a paper gets is the mark it has earned according to that marking scheme. Small blanket adjustments across subjects maybe if it becomes evident that everyone has outperformed or underperformed so as not to misplace students relative to other European students who might be competing for the same Irish uni places with their own country grading scheme.
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                                                                            oh nduja is most excellent! Bit of a killer chilli kick to it though, or is that just some versions?
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                                                                              Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                              oh nduja is most excellent! Bit of a killer chilli kick to it though, or is that just some versions?
                                                                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...nel-olives/amp

                                                                              Except I don't do one pan. Pasta seperate and add to the sauce at the end the way it should be done
                                                                              I get nduja in a italian deli beside me. Also toonsbridge on georges st will have it
                                                                              airport, lol

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                                                                                Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                                                                                Has anyone read any of Jordan Petersons books and would they care tIo give a quick review.
                                                                                read 12 rules a few years ago, to me it was as I read it I found it interesting and somewhat agreeable.
                                                                                It was only really as I finished it and tried to explain it to the missus, the hypocrisy of his writing became difficult to ignore.
                                                                                His instruction of being precise falls apart under his own stream of consciousness writing style. He decries strawmanning but has a core bunch of targets he blames for the ills of the world.
                                                                                I honestly don't think you'll learn anything not immediately apparent to anyone with even a cursory understanding of mindfulness (which is kinda short hand of "dont be a prick")
                                                                                and it will remind you at times of every occasion you are stuck talking to the over earnest fella in the smoking area of the pub who keeps grabbing your arm as you try to politely leave .

                                                                                My willingness to devote more time to him evaporated as he continued to use patreon to shape his output tailoring his missives to those who gave him the most money.
                                                                                People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                                                  Have a feeling I'll be like Homer when my books come in...

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                                                                                    kinda annoyed I missed yesterdays conversations.
                                                                                    It's always a good day when engaging in conversation not rooted in cbeebies or whether the lockdown is still on.
                                                                                    People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                                                      BBV has reminded me that I wanted to pick up nduja for a while now.
                                                                                      Will also give cultured butter a whirl.


                                                                                      Thank you to all involved.

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                                                                                        Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                                                                                        BBV has reminded me that I wanted to pick up nduja for a while now.
                                                                                        Will also give cultured butter a whirl.


                                                                                        Thank you to all involved.
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                                                                                          Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post


                                                                                          His instruction of being precise falls apart under his own stream of consciousness writing style. He decries strawmanning but has a core bunch of targets he blames for the ills of the world.
                                                                                          You really hit the nail upon the head here. This really grinds my gears. Although to be fair to that particular weirdo the practice is quite widespread.

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                                                                                            I think this be might favourite ever twitter thread:

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                                                                                              Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post

                                                                                              read 12 rules a few years ago, to me it was as I read it I found it interesting and somewhat agreeable.
                                                                                              It was only really as I finished it and tried to explain it to the missus, the hypocrisy of his writing became difficult to ignore.
                                                                                              His instruction of being precise falls apart under his own stream of consciousness writing style. He decries strawmanning but has a core bunch of targets he blames for the ills of the world.
                                                                                              I honestly don't think you'll learn anything not immediately apparent to anyone with even a cursory understanding of mindfulness (which is kinda short hand of "dont be a prick")
                                                                                              and it will remind you at times of every occasion you are stuck talking to the over earnest fella in the smoking area of the pub who keeps grabbing your arm as you try to politely leave .

                                                                                              My willingness to devote more time to him evaporated as he continued to use patreon to shape his output tailoring his missives to those who gave him the most money.
                                                                                              There is a fair disparity of opinion on him here which I suppose is to be expected and is probably a good thing.

                                                                                              I did note on some of the clips I saw was he referred to himself by title a number of times "as a clinical psychologist.."
                                                                                              It's a trick you often hear on Prime Time type shows to give weight to an opinion "Of course as a GP .." "As a solicitor" etc

                                                                                              Cheers for the review.




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                                                                                                The only objection I have to the kids going back to school is this is something Trump likes and seen as he is the anti christ, this will trigger all our deaths .

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                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post
                                                                                                  I think this be might favourite ever twitter thread:
                                                                                                  Hector Jelly

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                                                                                                    Question for the all knowing BBV

                                                                                                    Let's say you were in work and needed to have a shit and let's say that this shit was the absolute most foulest shit you've ever had.

                                                                                                    I'm talking the smell is so bad, it is wafting out the toilet door and down the corridor - people's nose hair is starting to burn as they smell it, some people are starting to cough as if they've just inhaled some nefarious white powder that was posted to them as part of a terrorist act.

                                                                                                    Let's say you are this person who had this shit. You are in the cubicle, having just finished your business (there is only one cubicle in the toilet) and just before you are about to leave the cubicle, you hear somebody washing their hands at the sink. Do you

                                                                                                    A) Wait until they leave the toilet as sweet mother of baby Jesus (sorry Kayroo) , you don't want to face anybody after that shit and for them to know that it actually came from inside your body.

                                                                                                    or

                                                                                                    B) Walk out and start to make small talk as if you hadn't just performed a bodily movement akin to the dropping of a nuclear bomb on war torn Japan.

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
                                                                                                      Question for the all knowing BBV
                                                                                                      If you didn't cause them to puke, it's not a bad as you think it is
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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
                                                                                                        Question for the all knowing BBV

                                                                                                        Let's say you were in work and needed to have a shit and let's say that this shit was the absolute most foulest shit you've ever had.

                                                                                                        I'm talking the smell is so bad, it is wafting out the toilet door and down the corridor - people's nose hair is starting to burn as they smell it, some people are starting to cough as if they've just inhaled some nefarious white powder that was posted to them as part of a terrorist act.

                                                                                                        Let's say you are this person who had this shit. You are in the cubicle, having just finished your business (there is only one cubicle in the toilet) and just before you are about to leave the cubicle, you hear somebody washing their hands at the sink. Do you

                                                                                                        A) Wait until they leave the toilet as sweet mother of baby Jesus (sorry Kayroo) , you don't want to face anybody after that shit and for them to know that it actually came from inside your body.

                                                                                                        or

                                                                                                        B) Walk out and start to make small talk as if you hadn't just performed a bodily movement akin to the dropping of a nuclear bomb on war torn Japan.
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                          I'm playing the afterschool hero for the next 2 weeks (Mrs D3 has to do her work in-person, onsite) and then I think I'll start going into the office 3 days a week once it is proven they can be trusted to be in the house without setting it on fire\stabbing each other. It's open now but is a bit zombie apocalypse, given the lack of humans in the building.
                                                                                                          We haven't had chance to experience the Zombie apocalypse. In March we had a worst case scenario forecast and we never got near it. Tidied up all outstanding subscriptions and bills and have actually came out of this much leaner. All took a 20% paycut which has since been restored and reimbursed. Hiring again and dishing out Bonuses and Promotions. We're back over 2020 Budget and all of this done from working from home so it can work for sure.

                                                                                                          Of the 100 in Dublin office. Only 15 of us expressed an interest in returning to the office with a September soft reopening. That number dwindled down to single figures and decision was made to keep it closed until well into the new year. The cost lighting up the place wasn't worth it for a handful of people popping in and out that and latest Gov Guidelines.

                                                                                                          People are going to get sick of it at some stage i'd imagine. I've a young team that are screaming to get social activities going. We've gone on a hike but no session yet. Bit of underlying pent up frustration there that i don't think has came out yet.

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                                                                                                            So started work today with a group zoom. Rate my opening banter, please? There was a silence at the end with an 'well anyway ...' shuffle from the head guy. About four people there at this point. Average age of 50-55 or so.

                                                                                                            HEAD GUY: How many years have you been gone from Dublin?

                                                                                                            ME: Five years.

                                                                                                            [SILENCE]

                                                                                                            [I FEEL I SHOULD ELABORATE TO FILL THE SILENCE]

                                                                                                            ME: I can date it by the youngest kid, as he was born around the day I started in France. Actually the eldest kid was born on the first day of starting work in Dublin. Bit of an odd coincidence there with both kids being born around the first day of a new job.

                                                                                                            [THE OBVIOUS BALL HAS BEEN PLAYED AND THE HEAD GUY SPOTS THE OPENING]

                                                                                                            HEAD GUY: ah ha. So do you have any announcements to make on starting this third job?

                                                                                                            [CROWD GOES WILD, THE OBVIOUS BALL HAS BEEN STRUCK AND THEY ARE LOVING IT. THATS WHY HES THE HEAD GUY, THEY SAY TO THEMSELVES!!]

                                                                                                            ME: ah no, they have proper contraceptives in France.

                                                                                                            [PURE SILENCE]

                                                                                                            HEAD GUY: well ... anyway ...

                                                                                                            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                              I feel you have planted your flag in the ground. Tattered cloth that it is.
                                                                                                              "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                Well maybe it loses something in the writing. In my head it was funny anyway.
                                                                                                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                  I had an unwelcome rub up against the job market these last few months. Might be of interest to some in the same boat or possibly facing into it.

                                                                                                                  I was unexpectedly made redundant in mid-June as an expected investment in the company dried up. So I set myself a target of applying for an average of one job a day and a interviewing for one job per week.

                                                                                                                  So in 10 weeks I applied for 123 roles (an average of just over 1.5 jobs per day) and got interviews for 13 or about 10%. Jobs all had product, content or e-commerce in the title. Probably half those I was either over or under qualified for so knew I was unlikely to get an interview but still applied as you simply never know what will happen if a human sees your profile.

                                                                                                                  Things were slow to start as I slogged through a bunch of backlog jobs which may have been on job sites for quite a while. These were largely useless, 'thanks but no thanks' but I did score one part-time freelance writing job which kept me interested and sharpened my skills a little.

                                                                                                                  However by mid-July the market seemingly took an outrageous turn and relevant jobs flooded in for me with regular interviews and good feedback with which to work.

                                                                                                                  In the end I was at final stage for 4 roles this week (and had two first stage interviews yesterday as well) and the one I accepted (back into content marketing for a fintech product company) had first mover advantage.

                                                                                                                  Most annoyingly, just over one-third of those I submitted an application too responded either with a 'thanks but no thanks' or an interview offer. The others were pig ignorant fucks where you were luck to receive an automated 'we received your application but we'll only be in touch if we could be bothered'.

                                                                                                                  Anyway, it all ended well but the message to anyone in a similar boat is just keep plugging away. It's a numbers game. Just as an example, I was told by one recruiter not to be concerned if I saw 150 people had applied for a role on LinkedIn as straight away you could discount half of those as speculative non visa holders with zero chance and half of the other half would be speculative no-hopers wholly unsuited to the role. Seemed to be about right in the end.

                                                                                                                  So the nipper starts school tomorrow and I start back to work from home next week and while the virus is obviously a pile of shite I can't say I won't miss the time I had to hang out with the young fella, teaching him to cycle, splashing in the sea at Donegal, watching The Rubbish World of Dave Spud and teaching him about how Arthur and Ray were actually the best Minder over Arthur and Terry. He's still having none of it and can't get his head around why Terry left.

                                                                                                                  Glad I was able to make the best of a bad lot.


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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post

                                                                                                                    We haven't had chance to experience the Zombie apocalypse. In March we had a worst case scenario forecast and we never got near it. Tidied up all outstanding subscriptions and bills and have actually came out of this much leaner. All took a 20% paycut which has since been restored and reimbursed. Hiring again and dishing out Bonuses and Promotions. We're back over 2020 Budget and all of this done from working from home so it can work for sure.

                                                                                                                    Of the 100 in Dublin office. Only 15 of us expressed an interest in returning to the office with a September soft reopening. That number dwindled down to single figures and decision was made to keep it closed until well into the new year. The cost lighting up the place wasn't worth it for a handful of people popping in and out that and latest Gov Guidelines.

                                                                                                                    People are going to get sick of it at some stage i'd imagine. I've a young team that are screaming to get social activities going. We've gone on a hike but no session yet. Bit of underlying pent up frustration there that i don't think has came out yet.
                                                                                                                    Think our place is actively pushing people to go back in, especially in the US. As in, if you don't have a really good excuse, you need to be in the office 50% of the time.

                                                                                                                    Not reached those levels here yet but I could see it happening for sure. Personally wouldn't mind speaking face to face with beings that are not (a) a dog or (b), my children during the working day.
                                                                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                      So started work today with a group zoom. Rate my opening banter, please? There was a silence at the end with an 'well anyway ...' shuffle from the head guy. About four people there at this point. Average age of 50-55 or so.



                                                                                                                      Opening banter – 6/10 .
                                                                                                                      Bosses Banter – 5/10 Crowd need to get out more.

                                                                                                                      Banter aggregate 5.5 out of 10.

                                                                                                                      This was nobody’s finest hour .

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                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BennyHiFi View Post
                                                                                                                        so the nipper starts school tomorrow and I start back to work from home next week and while the virus is obviously a pile of shite I can't say I won't miss the time I had to hang out with the young fell, teaching him to cycle, splashing in the sea at Donegal, watching The Rubbish World of Dave Spud and teaching him about how Arthur and Ray were actually the best Minder over Arthur and Terry. He's still having none of it and can't get his head around why Terry left.
                                                                                                                        I'll alert the social workers to remove him as you are clearly not fit to be a parent if you're trying to inculcate these kind of ludicrous ideas.

                                                                                                                        WP on the job front.
                                                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                          We've got a ridic number of emails from the school over the last two weeks about how they were implementing social distancing rules in loads of different ways. Just so many emails. So many rules. So many bubbles. The kids started today. Missed phone call at midday while I was making the above classic banter in the work zoom. They ring back maybe 40 minutes later and see its the school, and an admirably non-stressed out administrator explains that actually all the junior infants and senior infants needed to be picked up at 11:30am today - something special for the first day. Leg it up there and pick up the youngest kid then go to look in the playground to see how the eldest is doing in her social isolation bubble combined with first-dayitis. Man - the playground is worse than that Killarney pub at the weekend. Everyone running around licking each other and playing games of catch-corona. The best made plans of mice and men have always failed beneath the inability of the French to follow rules.

                                                                                                                          "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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