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    Ha! Brilliant.
    I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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      There once was a PM called Boris,

      Who played down a dangerous virus

      With His continued resistance ,

      To employ social distance,

      The Grim Reaper arrived at his Doris.

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        Originally posted by Mellor View Post
        Well if the average person is average intelligence. That means there's a lot of people out there punting the under side.

        I've been in a few public groups on facebook, local area, short term interests, etc. The absolute lunacy of people never ceases to amaze me. But I do think the internet makes it appear worse. People with the awareness to realise that topic is complicated will say nothing. Yet the people with next to no knowledge of something, often shout the loudest. Dunning-Kruger.
        Or as HectorJelly calls it, the Hitch-Hiker effect.

        EDIT - should have kept scrolling. Second!

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          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
          There once was a PM called Boris,

          Who played down a dangerous virus

          With His continued resistance ,

          To employ social distance,

          The Grim Reaper arrived at his Doras.
          correcting for presumed Gaelic
          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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            Originally posted by Gimmeabreak View Post
            Or as HectorJelly calls it, the Hitch-Hiker effect.

            EDIT - should have kept scrolling. Second!
            Loving the idea of claiming a Dunning-Kruger effect despite massively misunderstanding the effect itself. I hope someone is blasting Alannis Morissette into the graves of Dunning and Kruger as we speak.
            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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              Yeah funnily enough it's probably mostly misunderstood and misused.

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                Is it not just that the worse you are at something the more you overestimate your ability?

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                  Originally posted by Keane View Post
                  Is it not just that the worse you are at something the more you overestimate your ability?
                  that's my understanding of it anyway.
                  People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
                  Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
                  https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21

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                    .

                    The bias is definitively not that incompetent people think they’re better than competent people. Rather, it’s that incompetent people think they’re much better than they actually are. But they typically still don’t think they’re quite as good as people who, you know, actually are good. (It’s important to note that Dunning and Kruger never claimed to show that the unskilled think they’re better than the skilled; that’s just the way the finding is often interpreted by others.)
                    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                      There was a young maid from Madras
                      Who had a magnificent ass
                      Not rounded and pink
                      As you probably think
                      It was grey, had long ears, and ate grass.
                      Originally posted by shrapnel View Post
                      There was a young man from Madras
                      who's balls were made of brass
                      in stormy weather
                      they clicked together
                      and sparks flew out of his arse

                      It's indicative of a caste with no class
                      said the young Hindu gent and his lass
                      it would sure make you wonder
                      why so many of them ponder
                      about the genitals of the youth of Madras
                      People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
                      Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
                      https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21

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                        Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                        Well if the average person is average intelligence. That means there's a lot of people out there punting the under side.

                        I've been in a few public groups on facebook, local area, short term interests, etc. The absolute lunacy of people never ceases to amaze me. But I do think the internet makes it appear worse. People with the awareness to realise that topic is complicated will say nothing. Yet the people with next to no knowledge of something, often shout the loudest. Dunning-Kruger.
                        So this is wrong.

                        Actually the people who know most 'shout the loudest' (the darkest line), its just that those who know least also shout louder than they should - but not as loud as those who know a lot.




                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                          Madras is the nut Limerick location tbf
                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                            Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                            Dom where's Des the Craft Beer man?

                            Enjoyed the half Little Fawn half Hazy IPA from White Hag last week. Was familiar with Little Fawn and the Hazy will be making its way into my basket in Stephens St news when i get back to work. Light enough that you could pound them and not feel like pure shite the next morning. Key when you have a near two year old in a state 'lockdown'.

                            Whiplash beers have always been my bag, especially their DIPAs but thankfully i can't get them online at the moment. I see they are selling through their own site and the Big Romance.
                            Their half Body Riddle Half Rollover will be happening.

                            Any codes Des???
                            Just paged him there.

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                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                              Madras is the nut Limerick location tbf
                              Sure who doesn't like dogs.

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                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                .
                                So... yes?

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                                  Originally posted by Keane View Post
                                  So... yes?
                                  I think that's a big part of it, and a reasonable summary. But the core finding is that people who actually have the most knowledge of a subject are those also most likely to perceive they have the most knowledge of a subject. That's a pretty vital footnote, as its commonly interpreted that those who know least claim they know more than the people who do know more. If you get what I mean.
                                  "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38RMZ9H7Cg8
                                    "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                                      There was an IPBer called Shraaaap
                                      Who contracted a dose of the clap
                                      He went home to the wife
                                      And begged for his life
                                      But she shot out his kneecap

                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                        Madras is the nut Limerick location tbf
                                        Nantucket
                                        Is that how you crash a wedding? yes it is, Bionic Barry, yes it is.

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                                          At a more basic level people estimate that they are above average at most things. Hence the greatest discrepancy from real ability will naturally be for those with the lowest ability.

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                                            There was a dodgy character called Hitch
                                            Who scrotum had a most appalling itch
                                            When asked to explain
                                            What was causing the pain
                                            "I sutured my balls with a stitch"
                                            "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                              Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                              At a more basic level people estimate that they are above average at most things. Hence the greatest discrepancy from real ability will naturally be for those with the lowest ability.
                                              Thats a very interesting way of putting it - like it!
                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                At a more basic level people estimate that they are above average at most things. Hence the greatest discrepancy from real ability will naturally be for those with the lowest ability.
                                                Yeah, most people think they are way better than average at driving.
                                                Person...Woman...Man......Camera..TV

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                                                  Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                  At a more basic level people estimate that they are above average at most things. Hence the greatest discrepancy from real ability will naturally be for those with the lowest ability.
                                                  Except Ironing, putting on a new duvet cover , frying an egg without breaking the yoke and opening sachets without ruining my clothes. Everyone is better.

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                                                    Poker is the nut example of it.
                                                    I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                      Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                      frying an egg without breaking the yoke
                                                      Here's a tip that will change your life.

                                                      Crack the egg and pour gently into an espresso cup, ramekin or similar. If you split the yoke, throw it out and go again.

                                                      Tip gently into hot oil.
                                                      I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                        There was this chancer called The Duke
                                                        His rightwing hero worship would make you puke
                                                        But when it came to child expense
                                                        That all went past tense
                                                        And he could quote a Trotsky line cut to suit
                                                        PMA

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                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                          Except Ironing, putting on a new duvet cover , frying an egg without breaking the yoke and opening sachets without ruining my clothes. Everyone is better.
                                                          Crack the egg on a flat surface not the edge off the pan
                                                          When you crack it in a edge you can break the protective layer around the yoke hence the spill.

                                                          Duvet?
                                                          Turn it inside out,
                                                          put on corners,
                                                          Grip middle in teeth,
                                                          let it fall into place,
                                                          shake

                                                          Ezy game
                                                          PMA

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                                                            Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                            Here's a tip that will change your life.

                                                            Crack the egg and pour gently into an espresso cup, ramekin or similar. If you split the yoke, throw it out and go again.

                                                            Tip gently into hot oil.
                                                            I'm stressed out reading this . I shall have to climb into a duvet cover to calm myself.

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                                                              Originally posted by Elshambles View Post
                                                              Crack the egg on a flat surface not the edge off the pan
                                                              When you crack it in a edge you can break the protective layer around the yoke hence the spill.

                                                              Duvet?
                                                              Turn it inside out,
                                                              put on corners,
                                                              Grip middle in teeth,
                                                              let it fall into place,
                                                              shake

                                                              Ezy game
                                                              You are better .
                                                              The egg broke in my teeth.

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                                                                Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                You are better .
                                                                The egg broke in my teeth.
                                                                Would explain the inability to open sachets
                                                                PMA

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                                                                  Originally posted by Elshambles View Post
                                                                  Duvet?
                                                                  Turn it inside out,
                                                                  put on corners,
                                                                  Grip middle in teeth,
                                                                  let it fall into place,
                                                                  shake

                                                                  Ezy game
                                                                  thought we were doing limericks
                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                    There was a Sligo bogtrotter called Shamble
                                                                    Across all of Europe he did ramble
                                                                    When he got to the Med
                                                                    He took to his bed
                                                                    Because the covid removed all his gamble
                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                      Enjoying all the poetry and Hitchs pop psychology lessons today

                                                                      Apparently we're past the peak of ICU admissions and deaths for the first wave according to this: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...23043?mode=amp

                                                                      We were predicted to go beyond the ICU bed capacity but we'll be significantly under based on 500 beds opposed to 250 which it was originally modelled on, also predicts UK to suffer the worst in Europe in the first wave which is up till early August.

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                                                                        Gove in isolation now. The Downing Street cat will be running the place shortly.
                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                          thought we were doing limericks
                                                                          If you can't get the duvet cover on
                                                                          And you head is way to far gone
                                                                          Don't lay all stressed,
                                                                          Freezing in your vest
                                                                          Just put the fucking thing on!
                                                                          PMA

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                                                                            Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
                                                                            Yeah, most people think they are way better than average at driving.
                                                                            Just once I'd love to hear someone say 'I'm usually a pretty bad judge of character'

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                                                                              Needs a better last line
                                                                              PMA

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                                                                                Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                                You are better .
                                                                                The egg broke in my teeth.
                                                                                My method makes a good un....

                                                                                [IMG][/IMG]
                                                                                I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                  A bit like yourself Willie. A good egg.
                                                                                  I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                    A bit like yourself Willie. A good egg.
                                                                                    Is that a big egg or a small plate?
                                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Keane View Post
                                                                                      Just once I'd love to hear someone say 'I'm usually a pretty bad judge of character'
                                                                                      I am, but I've never felt the urge to say it to anyone.
                                                                                      Person...Woman...Man......Camera..TV

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                                                                                        70 euro for a years worth of Disney Plus seems like the bargain of our times. For those with kids anyway. Hate the idea of them seeing ads in whatever they are watching.
                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                          Is that a big egg or a small plate?
                                                                                          My 5 year old's dinner plate, she's a demon for fried eggs.
                                                                                          I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                            Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                            My method makes a good un....

                                                                                            [IMG][/IMG]
                                                                                            I'll be over with the brown sauce in a minute . Can you scrape those bits off it before I get there .

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                                                                                              Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post
                                                                                              I am, but I've never felt the urge to say it to anyone.
                                                                                              Can work out . Amirite?

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                                                                                                Originally posted by Keane View Post
                                                                                                Is it not just that the worse you are at something the more you overestimate your ability?
                                                                                                Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                                                that's my understanding of it anyway.
                                                                                                I can confirm this to be true when it comes to me and tennis

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                                                                                                  Apparently South Africas death rate is at minus 278 due to the ol covid keeping the car jacking to a minimum .

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                                                                                                    There was a young boyo called Crane
                                                                                                    A likeable chap in the main
                                                                                                    But one post about Trump
                                                                                                    The whole place gets the hump
                                                                                                    Is he a genius a troll or insane.

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                                                      Dom where's Des the Craft Beer man?
                                                                                                      .0/


                                                                                                      Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                                                      Enjoyed the half Little Fawn half Hazy IPA from White Hag last week. Was familiar with Little Fawn and the Hazy will be making its way into my basket in Stephens St news when i get back to work. Light enough that you could pound them and not feel like pure shite the next morning. Key when you have a near two year old in a state 'lockdown'.
                                                                                                      why aren't you ordering off them for delivery, it's a fiver and next day in Dublin if you order early in the day

                                                                                                      www.craftcentral.ie is Stephen St News, and they have mix and match 4 for 10 and 4 for 12 online as well as in store.

                                                                                                      Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                                                      Whiplash beers have always been my bag, especially their DIPAs but thankfully i can't get them online at the moment. I see they are selling through their own site and the Big Romance.
                                                                                                      Their half Body Riddle Half Rollover will be happening.
                                                                                                      The Rollover is especially decent this time round, they constantly tweak recipes and I think they've hit on a winner this time. The Body Riddle is also pretty good. Low ABV beers for afternoon drinking!

                                                                                                      they announced a brand new IPA this morning

                                                                                                      https://twitter.com/whiplashbeer/sta...439082497?s=20

                                                                                                      That Strata hop is supposed to be deadly so I'll be grabbing a few of these.

                                                                                                      Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                                                      Any codes Des???
                                                                                                      Nah.

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by horatio1 View Post
                                                                                                        There was a young boyo called Crane
                                                                                                        A likeable chap in the main
                                                                                                        But one post about Trump
                                                                                                        The whole place gets the hump
                                                                                                        Is he a genius a troll or insane.
                                                                                                        best one yet imo
                                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                          There was a Sligo bogtrotter called Shamble
                                                                                                          Across all of Europe he did ramble
                                                                                                          When he got to the Med
                                                                                                          He took to his bed
                                                                                                          Because the covid removed all his gamble
                                                                                                          You spelt brother wrong!

                                                                                                          B-
                                                                                                          PMA

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                                                                                                            This is slightly spoilery if you haven't yet seen The Gentlemen, but I can see wanting to use this turn of phrase from young Colin in so many conversations.

                                                                                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QD0-tGbxcQ
                                                                                                            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                              There was an auld fella called Hector Jelly
                                                                                                              Whose farts were exceedingly smelly
                                                                                                              For this there was reason
                                                                                                              That in every season
                                                                                                              With crisps he would only fill his belly

                                                                                                              "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                                There was an auld fella called Hector Jelly
                                                                                                                Whose farts were exceedingly smelly
                                                                                                                For this there was reason
                                                                                                                That in every season
                                                                                                                With crisps he would only fill his belly

                                                                                                                Don't give up the day job.

                                                                                                                Speaking of which, I'm working in an old haunt of yours (company, not my house) and involved in a project that includes your current haunt. Fascinating stuff altogether.

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                                  Poetry day today

                                                                                                                  There as a certain pervert called Hoover
                                                                                                                  Who met a young lady from Vancouver
                                                                                                                  She was a bit of a slut
                                                                                                                  With a very large butt
                                                                                                                  And she taught him the hind-lick manoeuvre
                                                                                                                  This is my haiku about how much time I spend looking in the fridge. Looking for what I don't know.

                                                                                                                  Still, no answers here.
                                                                                                                  No knowledge to be found.
                                                                                                                  Some asparagus.
                                                                                                                  This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                                                                                                  All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                                                                                                  The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Murdrum View Post
                                                                                                                    Enjoying all the poetry and Hitchs pop psychology lessons today

                                                                                                                    Apparently we're past the peak of ICU admissions and deaths for the first wave according to this: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...23043?mode=amp

                                                                                                                    We were predicted to go beyond the ICU bed capacity but we'll be significantly under based on 500 beds opposed to 250 which it was originally modelled on, also predicts UK to suffer the worst in Europe in the first wave which is up till early August.
                                                                                                                    You'd wonder if we will be extra cautious here of any latent effects given the proximity and sharing a border. Might be more cautious than otherwise of reopening things given the chance of a random nordie zombie infecting us all again.
                                                                                                                    This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                                                                                                    All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                                                                                                    The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 6starpool View Post
                                                                                                                      Don't give up the day job.

                                                                                                                      Speaking of which, I'm working in an old haunt of yours (company, not my house) and involved in a project that includes your current haunt. Fascinating stuff altogether.
                                                                                                                      You and I still share the same employer I assume?
                                                                                                                      "Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard Keynes

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                                                                                                                        Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View Post
                                                                                                                        You and I still share the same employer I assume?
                                                                                                                        For now!

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                          So this is wrong.
                                                                                                                          Actually the people who know most 'shout the loudest' (the darkest line), its just that those who know least also shout louder than they should - but not as loud as those who know a lot.

                                                                                                                          I don’t think that graph suggests I said was wrong, not even close tbh.
                                                                                                                          The dark line is perceived ability. Not how vocal people are. Assuming that everyone is only as vocal on a subject as their perceived ability is a bit of a blunder.
                                                                                                                          I think it’s likely to be shaped by environment. These people aren’t challenging known experts’ opinion. But on a platform such as facebook, surrounded by plebs, the overconfidence manifests. Surely we’ve all seen that happen.

                                                                                                                          Also, the study included more than one test. Here’s the another one. 2nd quartile rated their ability and performance higher than the top quartile.



                                                                                                                          I don't think either Dunning or Kruger are turning in their graves just yet...but mainly because neither has died.
                                                                                                                          Last edited by Mellor; 07-04-20, 14:12.

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