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    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
    I asked Mrs D3 about the walking alone\feeling threatened thing. She's out and about the whole time, walking to work, walking the dog, doing her hundred days of walking etc.

    She said she doesn't feel threatened and doesn't cross the road to avoid people.

    She also put her professional hat on and reminded me that the vast majority of violence towards women (and children) is done in their own homes, by people they know. The fear of strangers is not backed up by the reality.
    Sample size of one. Nice.

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      I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

      Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.
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        Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post
        I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

        Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted.
        Hey you're an attractive man. You should feel validated. Or it was your fauly for wearing a tight-fitting t-shirt. Or something. Heeellppppp.

        Can I go back to our fathers time please?
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          Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

          Sample size of one. Nice.

          I don't know if you have can get these but they will be available. Actual crime stats.

          So the numbers you posted seem to roughly indicate that women feel a third less safe (or a third more unsafe) when comparing attitudes between 2018 and 2021.

          But does that actually translate into a corresponding increase in sexual crime? It seems unlikely (or we would have heard about it, right?)

          Levels of abuse towards women have remained similar in recent years.png

          So it seems like the levels of fear do not correspond to the actual threat. Interesting. I wonder why that it is.
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            There is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.


            This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.

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              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
              There is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.


              This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.

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                Originally posted by Theresa View Post

                Right! It’s very well done.

                Dopesick next for you Ole.
                I was all over that from the off, Keaton a tour de force.
                This too shall pass.

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                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                  No, that's what you're saying.
                  I guess I did call him a racist. I should probably accept the low blow.

                  Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.

                  She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.

                  Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.
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                    Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                    Seems to me that using an extreme outlier murderous assault on a young woman is a terrible place to start a discussion of the undoubtedly real issue of violence by men against women (99% of which involves people known to each other) and then to frame it within the context of tangentially related, though no less real, phenomenon like objectification of women in media and pornography, male sexuality and the discomfort felt by women when out on their own in public.
                    The focus went onto women's general fears and micro aggressions because of the fact Ashling Murphy was running in daylight. It immediately highlighted the fact that women fear excersising at night time.
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                      Its all down to the true crime podcasts innit.

                      Ill take a wild guess that you are 10 times more likely to be raped by your father than murdered by a stranger...."Jamie, look that up for me.."
                      This too shall pass.

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                        Conor...please understand the restraint it has taken me all day to not ask for pics of the wife running so we can properly judge...your so lucky in not drinking atm.
                        This too shall pass.

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                          Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post


                          every cloud....
                          Really don't like him
                          That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
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                            Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post
                            I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

                            Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.
                            I had that experience in The Dragon on George's St about 15 years ago. I will admit to it being a bit funny at the time batting lads away but would be absolutely horrible if it happened every time you went out.
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                              Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                              The focus went onto women's general fears and micro aggressions because of the fact Ashling Murphy was running in daylight. It immediately highlighted the fact that women fear excersising at night time.
                              And I'm saying that an extreme case of murder is neither a sensible nor a constructive place to promote that discussion.
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                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                I had that experience in The Dragon on George's St about 15 years ago. I will admit to it being a bit funny at the time batting lads away but would be absolutely horrible if it happened every time you went out.
                                Do you never get sexual harassment from men when you are out jogging? I used to get a fair bit of it ( 30 years ago). Only time I was actually worried was from 4 fellas in a car along the canal. 95% sure they were just having a hilarious laugh, though it was pretty extreme.
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                                  Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                  And I'm saying that an extreme case of murder is neither a sensible nor a constructive place to promote that discussion.
                                  Fair point.
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                                    Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                    I guess I did call him a racist. I should probably accept the low blow.

                                    Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.

                                    She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.

                                    Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.
                                    I actually didn't think you did. I just assumed you didn't see my point about LA v Dublin.

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                                      Thinks ive heard whilst out running .

                                      30 years ago. Its a stew ya need - from passing yobs in a car
                                      2 years ago. Run fatboy run . From teenagers . (One was my niece )

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                                        Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post

                                        Do you never get sexual harassment from men when you are out jogging? I used to get a fair bit of it ( 30 years ago). Only time I was actually worried was from 4 fellas in a car along the canal. 95% sure they were just having a hilarious laugh, though it was pretty extreme.
                                        No, never. The worst I got, and I think the only time was last year on a country road and a lad roaring abuse out of a car.

                                        Did get a fright.
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                                          Fear of *all* crime is at an all time high. While crime itself is at an all time low. Initially the disparity came from 24 hour news, in the last two decades. But the arrival of social media has massively exploded that.
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                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                            Fear of *all* crime is at an all time high. While crime itself is at an all time low. Initially the disparity came from 24 hour news, in the last two decades. But the arrival of social media has massively exploded that.
                                            This is the water I was trying to lead us to drink.

                                            We've never been more fearful yet we've never been safer.

                                            Now ask youself:
                                            1. Why that is? and
                                            2. Who benefits from keeping us in that state of fearfulness?
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                                              Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                                              I actually didn't think you did. I just assumed you didn't see my point about LA v Dublin.

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                                              Emmet and I were talking about regular Joe white Kentuckians crossing the street when they saw regular Joe black Kentuckians, I think that's repugnant racism.

                                              Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.

                                              So apologies.
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                                                Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                Thinks ive heard whilst out running .

                                                30 years ago. Its a stew ya need - from passing yobs in a car
                                                2 years ago. Run fatboy run . From teenagers . (One was my niece )
                                                I regularly get some smartarse and a few nasty comments from the dealers and wannabees at Hamsterdam on the canal path at Clondalkin. I blank them but would always be a bit intimidated by the general scangeryness going on. Would be keeping my wits about me in the area knowing that the junkies coming and going wouldn't think twice about jumping me if they thought they could get away with a phone.

                                                On the other hand two of my female colleagues have actually been robbed on that path and most of them report sexualised and racial comments.

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                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                  That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
                                                  What did he do?
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                                                    Was trying out a few tone deafness tests and found this one of the better ones, though they do collect a lot of info in the process https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/td

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                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                      That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
                                                      Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                      What did he do?
                                                      Shouted abuse at perceived easy targets, for fucking years.
                                                      Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
                                                      Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
                                                      All in the name of "comedy"
                                                      People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                        Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                        Emmet and I were talking about regular Joe white Kentuckians crossing the street when they saw regular Joe black Kentuckians, I think that's repugnant racism.

                                                        Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.

                                                        So apologies.
                                                        My fault also as I didn't make myself clear and picked you up incorrectly also. You guys had skin colour as the criteria for the decision crossing the road. I was coming from the point that skin colour wasn't necessary the reason or motivating factor.

                                                        Likewise with women seeing a man coming against them. They would analyse the risk based on the factors they observe i.e. is the person walking with a dog, is he jogging also, does he look dodgy eg homeless etc . We all do that assessment, but women are more attuned to the the threat factor as that is a natural survival skill they developed since the beginning of time. If they didn't have that.

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                                                          Wordle was a cant today . Eh eh eh?

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                                                            Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post



                                                            Shouted abuse at perceived easy targets, for fucking years.
                                                            Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
                                                            Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
                                                            All in the name of "comedy"
                                                            Always struck me as a creepy individual, that pub landlord character wasn't much of a stretch for him.
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                                                              Fairly important context imo:



                                                              "While women are more fearful of violent crime, men are at much higher risk of being victims of violent crime"
                                                              Contrary to popular belief, men, not women, are overwhelmingly the victims of random street violence resulting in death. And although women are socialised to fear strangers, their partners are more deadly, writes criminologist Dr Michelle Noon.

                                                              Female fear is hardening into noisy, righteous anger. In the UK last week, the din broke through to the corridors of power. Fear is passive. It takes anger, apparently, to be heard.

                                                              In 2017, 1.7% of women aged 15 years or older said they had been the victim of one or more violent crimes, against 2.5% of men. Intimidation is the most common crime among both sexes. Women report twice as often than their male peers that they have fallen victim to a sexual offence.


                                                              On the streets, men are more likely to be the victims of "stranger danger" than women - more likely to be violently mugged, stabbed or beaten up. In the UK, men are two to three times more likely than women to be killed by someone unknown to them, with the 16-24 age group at highest risk.
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                                                                Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post

                                                                Yeah, see feminist theory states that it's all connected.
                                                                Any thoughts on the use of the word 'femicide'? It's my first time coming across it, and for now find it kind of strange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide
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                                                                  I really feel people are totally missing the point of what I'm on about.

                                                                  We all know the level of fear well outweighs the level of risk. It's all about that fear though.

                                                                  I'm talking about minor adjustments to our behaviour that we can make to shrink that fear.

                                                                  I also don't think it's reasonable to then say if I accept women can legitimately be in fear of good men that it follows that I should not condemn white people from Kentucky being irrationally in fear of black people.

                                                                  To do so would be to discard all manner of historical nuances. It's not a simple rising boats situation. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.
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                                                                    Touch wood in 30 years socializing in the City Centre I've never had any real hassle or trouble bar one attempted mugging when some fucker pulled a knife on me.

                                                                    Many times out with herself though maybe walking up Grafton Street at 3am or wherever and ive turned us down a side street or crossed over and she would be completely oblivious as to why i did it. Can only imagine what it is like for a woman own her own or even in a small group at times.

                                                                    There are an element of men out there and it will never really change in my opinion.

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                                                                      Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                      I really feel people are totally missing the point of what I'm on about.
                                                                      All our posts aren't about you Laz By the way I certainly wasn't trying to troll you when I congratulated Hitch on not tweeting about it.

                                                                      All the stuff you advised is pretty much what I've done over the last 30 years or so. I do think it can help women feel somewhat less fearful in a small way. Unfortunately it does nothing to reduce the chances of something actually happening.
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                                                                        My first thought after Lazare's point was - hmm, people think that universals exist i.e. that "men" is something that exists in the world. I don't get to have any debating fun at all.

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                                                                          Larceny by Munster down in Castres, wp.
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                                                                            58% of Covid hospital cases aren't there because of Covid. WTF like. Yes, I know they still have to be managed differently but the numbers are input into big decisions without this type of breakdown.



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                                                                              Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                              My first thought after Lazare's point was - hmm, people think that universals exist i.e. that "men" is something that exists in the world. I don't get to have any debating fun at all.
                                                                              I'd love for you to elaborate on that. I don't really understand what you mean by either part.

                                                                              Although, it doesn't smell very complimentary

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                                                                                  It's not an uncomplentary thing Lazare and it's not about you.

                                                                                  People were initially debating something about what the meaningfulness of what one man does has on men in general.

                                                                                  That is predicated on believing that there exists in the real world a thing called men. I would be inclined towards the view that there is not.

                                                                                  This issue is a very old one in philosophy called the problem of universals.

                                                                                  Apart from that, I agree with your suggestions on what someone can do. Not that I much do them myself, I do a bit, but I'm a delightful sprite who is of no visual threat to anyone.

                                                                                  Lastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.

                                                                                  But obviously now is that not the time for introducing that given what happened which is due to some dangerous nutjob.

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                                                                                    I'm looking to buy a Buddhist statue from the UK as a present for someone. It'll be over three hundred quid, and I was looking for a way to get it without all the customs and double vat paying etc. which jack up the cost to the point of not being viable.

                                                                                    So I thought to get it sent to the North, but I don't know anyone in the North, so I found a place in Derry that acts like a Parcel Motel type thing.

                                                                                    It sounds like a classy operation, one option people have in Donegal is to pick their package up in Buncrana in a car park one evening from 6:10-6:20pm.

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                                                      What did he do?
                                                                                      The main thing was he terrorised everyone. That was his thing. So saying it was about women is simply wrong. Everyone was his victim. Yet the way it was written implied that he was particularly seeking out young women, which patently wasn't the case. Plus it was so refreshingly new at the time, he was an edgy comic trying out something new that just wasn't happening elsewhere.
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                                                                                        Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                                                        Touch wood in 30 years socializing in the City Centre I've never had any real hassle or trouble bar one attempted mugging when some fucker pulled a knife on me.

                                                                                        Many times out with herself though maybe walking up Grafton Street at 3am or wherever and ive turned us down a side street or crossed over and she would be completely oblivious as to why i did it. Can only imagine what it is like for a woman own her own or even in a small group at times.

                                                                                        There are an element of men out there and it will never really change in my opinion.
                                                                                        Are you describing a national problem with drinking or a national problem with men there?
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                                                                                          Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                          Lastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.
                                                                                          Yeah. They are asking for it. Scheming on new way to "use their sexuality" to bamboozle men.

                                                                                          Do you think they should cover up in the pool and at the beach too?

                                                                                          They need to change their behavior in any case. It's not like one could just look away or better still remove oneself from harms way if it's too much to be dealing with like.
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                                                                                            Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                                            58% of Covid hospital cases aren't there because of Covid. WTF like. Yes, I know they still have to be managed differently but the numbers are input into big decisions without this type of breakdown.


                                                                                            It's over bar the shouting, at least until there is a more dangerous variant. It won't be easy to get all the restrictions stood down as quickly as they should be but I am optimistic that there will be a big shift starting immediately from the expiry date of the current restrictions on the 30th that will be signalled as soon as next week.

                                                                                            Good luck with your tests before flying.
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                                                                                              Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                              It's not an uncomplentary thing Lazare and it's not about you.

                                                                                              People were initially debating something about what the meaningfulness of what one man does has on men in general.

                                                                                              That is predicated on believing that there exists in the real world a thing called men. I would be inclined towards the view that there is not.

                                                                                              This issue is a very old one in philosophy called the problem of universals.

                                                                                              Apart from that, I agree with your suggestions on what someone can do. Not that I much do them myself, I do a bit, but I'm a delightful sprite who is of no visual threat to anyone.

                                                                                              Lastly, I think any full discussion of all of this could do with including how women use their sexuality. I happen to hold a view that I would prefer if we didn't live in a time and place where every other woman is wearing yoga pants etc.

                                                                                              But obviously now is that not the time for introducing that given what happened which is due to some dangerous nutjob.
                                                                                              Thank you. It's admittedly a difficult concept to understand.

                                                                                              What is reality if it's not in our thoughts and speech?

                                                                                              Am a little disappointed in the last bit of that post tbh. It's only from our point of view that it's sexuality that's being used. They're just wearing comfortable clothes.
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                                                                                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                                Thank you. It's admittedly a difficult concept to understand.

                                                                                                What is reality if it's not in our thoughts and speech?

                                                                                                Am a little disappointed in the last bit of that post tbh. It's only from our point of view that it's sexuality that's being used. They're just wearing comfortable clothes.
                                                                                                Now you are applying double standards. You want us to be mindful of our impact on women, but you don't want women to be mindful of their impact of men, you can't have it both ways.

                                                                                                Men are just out for a walk. Women are just wearing comfortable clothes.

                                                                                                Tad inconsistent tbh.


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                                                                                                  Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                                                                                                  Now you are applying double standards. You want us to be mindful of our impact on women, but you don't want women to be mindful of their impact of men, you can't have it both ways.

                                                                                                  Men are just out for a walk. Women are just wearing comfortable clothes.

                                                                                                  Tad inconsistent tbh.

                                                                                                  You think women should dress in a way that doesn't sexually arouse you then?

                                                                                                  It's her fault if she does?



                                                                                                  Fucking hell.

                                                                                                  Fucking. Hell.



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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                                    You think women should dress in a way that doesn't sexually arouse you then?

                                                                                                    It's her fault if she does?



                                                                                                    Fucking hell.

                                                                                                    Fucking. Hell.



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                                                                                                    Missing the point... I don't care how women dress nor should I. But you can't ask men to care about their impact on the opposite sex without asking women to care about their impact on the other sex, regardless of what it is.

                                                                                                    Do you not get the double standards there?
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                                                                                                      Wife's going in for a colonoscopy in the morning so has had to take loads of laxative today. I could see all evening she was dying to have a conversation about just how much she was shitting, but I managed to send enough nods and appreciative sighs to indicate that I silently sympathise but just can't take on board your actual fecal explosions stories today.
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                                                                                                        Was interviewing a new person I'm hiring today, from Iran. A rather free flowing conversation as I've never thought to look up how to interview someone. My general approach is to just chitchat until they hopefully mention something about the job, at which point I go: oh yeah, what are your thoughts on that? To my credit, I've evolved over the years and now only 'interview' people after I've already made the decision to hire them based on prior recommendation.

                                                                                                        Anyway, we were chatting away about Tehran and she was mentioning how it's a mad place underground. The conversation meandered into me talking about that cool guy from Iran from Boards Poker. I named him Ghadi out of immediate memory deficit. I was just saying how he left here to go back to Iran and doubled his debauchery. What was his name again?

                                                                                                        I've managed to meet a lot of Iranians and as a default rule they are all ridiculously charming. It's a really unique cultural personality. I'm quite fascinated by it. There's no Iranian you could meet who is not weird, but great, in some way.

                                                                                                        Remember seeing a stat a while ago about how Iran is the top five nation in terms of AI research. It'll never do them any good, but they're just doing it because who there gives a fuck, and why not use their brains for something mad.
                                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                          Lads you need to re-read Lazare's posts about female fear and have a think about it again

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post



                                                                                                            Talking the sister in law in Melbourne and she said the over riding feeling was embarrassment that he wasn't been allowed in and that majority wanted him to play the event and the people kicking up about were a very small but noisy minority.

                                                                                                            Not sure if Sydney reaction is different?
                                                                                                            As I said, I’m only back a week. So a small sample. But basing it on a small number of interactions, media/polls etc admittedly the latter could be loaded.

                                                                                                            There would be a cohort in Melbourne who see the tennis as an important sporting event and that this cheapens it. I’d imagine the fans would value that over the covid rules.

                                                                                                            Had a nice meal over the Christmas. Will do a trip report at some point in the review thread.
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                                                                                                              It’s mental (but not surprising) how much of the social media reaction to the murder is basically “so sad but how can I make this about me” plus all the baseless xenophobia re the initial suspect etc. social media needs to be regulated to the point of extinction
                                                                                                              Will you ever fuck off with that shite... you are easily one of the worst posters on here for this-Pokerhand

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                                                                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                What was his name again?
                                                                                                                Gholimoli i think

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                                                                                                                  Missing the point... I don't care how women dress nor should I. But you can't ask men to care about their impact on the opposite sex without asking women to care about their impact on the other sex, regardless of what it is.

                                                                                                                  Do you not get the double standards there?
                                                                                                                  Suggesting behaviour change from men while also telling women the clothes they were make them somewhat culpable is not avoiding double standards. It's ironic hypocrisy.
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                                                                                                                  Women can wear whatever the fuck they want. It's up to you to control your sexual urge.

                                                                                                                  Women don't wear clothes with you mind.
                                                                                                                  I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                                    How can you forget the legend that is Gholi
                                                                                                                    I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                                                      Are you describing a national problem with drinking or a national problem with men there?
                                                                                                                      Just describing the only times i've ever felt slightly uneasy (or unsafe) which for me as a man would only occur at night. Obviously for women this can occur at any time of the day/night in far wider reaching circumstances.

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                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                                                                                        Yeah. They are asking for it. Scheming on new way to "use their sexuality" to bamboozle men.

                                                                                                                        Do you think they should cover up in the pool and at the beach too?
                                                                                                                        Does that sound like being part of a full discussion that I said it would be in the context of i.e. looking at all the sociological conditions giving rise to idiot guys harassing women?

                                                                                                                        I'm quite comfortable in my view that we live in a hypersexualised society that has numerous negative consequences. We get overly aroused generally in our society, and sexual arousal is part of it. I think our arousal society is problematic.

                                                                                                                        And yes I think some part of that includes clothes worn. I know what it's like to spend weeks on retreat where all clothes worn by everyone are loose non-revealing clothes. And I have been surprised to notice the effect that has on preventing sexual thoughts and arousal. It goes down and down. Obviously there's no media too.

                                                                                                                        I observe my mind states, and when I notice sexual orientated mind states arising when walking down the street in the city centre I know what conditions it. And it isn't the mere presence of women. I would prefer not to have this as what my mind is partially conditioned by.

                                                                                                                        I'm a guy and what that entails, I don't always look away as much as I think I should, but some of it is objectively due to fashion choices that accentuate the appearance of sexual attractiveness.

                                                                                                                        I appreciate that I'm unusual in this respect, of preferring to have a mind not conditioned by sensual desire left, right, and centre. And I'm not saying that women should or should not do anything that has to do with what I wish. I'm merely pointing out that there are consequences.

                                                                                                                        For every person who wishes not to crave or grasp after such mental states there are ten thousand who will. Most just internally crave, but some will externally grasp (act).

                                                                                                                        Anyway, I hope that gives more context to what I'm getting at.

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by paul8200 View Post
                                                                                                                          Lads you need to re-read Lazare's posts about female fear and have a think about it again
                                                                                                                          Have had a 40 year think about it. Not all women are innocent princesses i grew up with 4 sisters and went to a co ed school. I could tell you a thing or 2 . A lot of the arguments and disruption were caused by women. Has this made me a mysognist ? EVERYONE needs to respect each other more . However do not dismiss the part women play in their own fear and that of other women.

                                                                                                                          I sm one of those guys Hotspur refers to. The struggle is real. Women do have a sexual power sometimes toxic sometimes intoxicating. We have to acknowledge that .

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