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    Which coincidentally was the big way that America went some way to overcoming its racial divides, by integrating schools.
    "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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      Seems to me that using an extreme outlier murderous assault on a young woman is a terrible place to start a discussion of the undoubtedly real issue of violence by men against women (99% of which involves people known to each other) and then to frame it within the context of tangentially related, though no less real, phenomenon like objectification of women in media and pornography, male sexuality and the discomfort felt by women when out on their own in public.
      Turning millions into thousands

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        Originally posted by Emmet View Post

        What does par even mean anymore?
        What do you want it to mean? Even par has never meant anything.

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          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
          Which coincidentally was the big way that America went some way to overcoming its racial divides, by integrating schools.
          At the point of a gun in some places. But point taken.

          (and if you think that was limited to redneck Southern states, have a read on the integration of schools in Irish neighbourhoods of Chicago and Boston. Not a comfortable read.)
          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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            every cloud....
            Really don't like him
            People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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              “Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.”

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                Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                Nope. You assumed I was referring to all black men in general, which I wasn't. I was referring to a specific class i.e black homeless junkies in America, I would cross the street if I saw white homeless junkies also. Skin colour wasn't the factor, the judging of whether he looked like a homeless junkies was.

                And that feed into the overall issue that is being discussed. Making sweeping generalisms and stereotyping. It is not about genders or racial tones being the key issue, but environment situation, which is akin to what Emmet is saying.


                Yet another time to bask in the knowledge of Will Smith.
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                  Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post

                  every cloud....
                  Really don't like him
                  McSavage?
                  “Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.”

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                    Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                    No, that's what you're saying.
                    That what you were implying... Or did I misunderstand that?
                    No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.

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                      Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                      Seems to me that using an extreme outlier murderous assault on a young woman is a terrible place to start a discussion of the undoubtedly real issue of violence by men against women (99% of which involves people known to each other) and then to frame it within the context of tangentially related, though no less real, phenomenon like objectification of women in media and pornography, male sexuality and the discomfort felt by women when out on their own in public.
                      Yeah, see feminist theory states that it's all connected. Think I posted the rape culture pyramid here before. Ask any man and they know there's a world of difference between e.g. catcalling and murderous assault. But the idea is that the sort of person who would commit the murderous assault starts with things that seem banal or harmless to us and works their way up the pyramid. If men call each other out on the banal behaviours at the bottom of the pyramid, the idea is that the potential rapist never gets to the stage where they are even considering hiding in bushes.

                      Personally I think this is a naive idealistic approach based on a poor understanding of human nature. But it's undebatable that we could all make the world a generally better place for everyone if we gave the creeps nowhere to hide.
                      "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                        Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                        That what you were implying... Or did I misunderstand that?
                        You invented your own truth and played it back to me as mine
                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                          Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post


                          every cloud....
                          Really don't like him
                          Who are they talking about?

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                            Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post

                            Who are they talking about?
                            David McSavage i think

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                              Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post

                              Yeah, see feminist theory states that it's all connected. Think I posted the rape culture pyramid here before. Ask any man and they know there's a world of difference between e.g. catcalling and murderous assault. But the idea is that the sort of person who would commit the murderous assault starts with things that seem banal or harmless to us and works their way up the pyramid. If men call each other out on the banal behaviours at the bottom of the pyramid, the idea is that the potential rapist never gets to the stage where they are even considering hiding in bushes.

                              Personally I think this is a naive idealistic approach based on a poor understanding of human nature. But it's undebatable that we could all make the world a generally better place for everyone if we gave the creeps nowhere to hide.
                              Obviously it is not simple but there is probably at least something to it, the more women are respected in each society there does tend to be less violence towards women. Things that are commonplace like murder and rape in less civilized places become less so the more repugnant people choose to hold each other for committing acts. Extremes of viewing woman as lesser in some countries down to catcalling or jokes all probably have some sort of affect to the mindset of people, even if the latter are small.
                              Last edited by Tar.Aldarion; 14-01-22, 17:51.

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                                Originally posted by Emmet View Post
                                Massive pivot, but Smith's win (and Rahm and Cantlay's scoring) last week was a joke.



                                What does par even mean anymore?
                                Speaking of irrationally overreacting to a specific context or environment.
                                This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                  Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post

                                  Obviously it is not simple but there is probably at least something to it, the more women are respected each society is there does tend to be less violence towards women. Things that are commonplace like murder and rape in less civilized places become less so the more repugnant people choose to hold each other for committing acts. Extremes of viewing woman as lesser in some countries down to catcalling or jokes all probably have some sort of affect to the mindset of people, even if the latter are small.
                                  You could probably apply the same principle to 'seriousness of racism' (obviously there is no utopia where racism doesn't exist in some way but liberal democracies tend to do better and be less overtly racist).
                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                    IMO EVERYTHING hinges on respect . A bit obvious but its the biggest bug bear in society baring maybe North Korea where the glorious leader is the Queen Ant

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                                      Finally got around to watching Chernobyl during the week, I had heard it was good but did not expect it to be that good.

                                      This too shall pass.

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                                        Was chatting to a lad in the shop the other day who was with with the United Nations in Iran (dont know what capacity, he was a yank) I mentioned my dad was with them as part of the peackeeping force sent to the Congo in the 60s after an ambush where a number of troops were killed. He commented the irish contingent were very well regarded within the group. No trouble or rapes etc. He was saying that even a soldier looking at a woman or cat calling could result in her getting beaten or worse by family as if she was responsible for or inciting their behaviour. killed in some cases.

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                                          Originally posted by oleras View Post
                                          Finally got around to watching Chernobyl during the week, I had heard it was good but did not expect it to be that good.
                                          Right! It’s very well done.

                                          Dopesick next for you Ole.
                                          This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                          All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                          The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                            Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                            You invented your own truth and played it back to me as mine
                                            No I didn't.... Lazare talked about his wife feelings she get when out running and attitude about timing of running etc. You then said you discussed the topic with your Mrs about that and she said she wouldn't feel threatened and she put her "professional cap on" to talk about mostly the danger of violence comes from within the existing homeplace.

                                            So hardly a stretch to see that you were implying that women feelings of threat levels is influenced by knowledge or ignorance of statistics of where threat of danger is coming from.

                                            Statistically speaking, your Mrs should feel threatened by you
                                            No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.

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                                              Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post

                                              McSavage?
                                              Originally posted by Hectorjelly View Post

                                              Who are they talking about?
                                              Originally posted by shrapnel View Post

                                              David McSavage i think

                                              Yep.

                                              Have a deep dislike of the fella from years and years ago,
                                              Painfully unfunny
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                                                Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                I asked Mrs D3 about the walking alone\feeling threatened thing. She's out and about the whole time, walking to work, walking the dog, doing her hundred days of walking etc.

                                                She said she doesn't feel threatened and doesn't cross the road to avoid people.

                                                She also put her professional hat on and reminded me that the vast majority of violence towards women (and children) is done in their own homes, by people they know. The fear of strangers is not backed up by the reality.
                                                Sample size of one. Nice.

                                                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                  I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

                                                  Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.
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                                                    Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post
                                                    I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

                                                    Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted.
                                                    Hey you're an attractive man. You should feel validated. Or it was your fauly for wearing a tight-fitting t-shirt. Or something. Heeellppppp.

                                                    Can I go back to our fathers time please?
                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post

                                                      Sample size of one. Nice.

                                                      I don't know if you have can get these but they will be available. Actual crime stats.

                                                      So the numbers you posted seem to roughly indicate that women feel a third less safe (or a third more unsafe) when comparing attitudes between 2018 and 2021.

                                                      But does that actually translate into a corresponding increase in sexual crime? It seems unlikely (or we would have heard about it, right?)

                                                      Levels of abuse towards women have remained similar in recent years.png

                                                      So it seems like the levels of fear do not correspond to the actual threat. Interesting. I wonder why that it is.
                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                        There is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.


                                                        This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.

                                                        0xRA3RN.jpg


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                                                          Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                          There is free money to be had on photo finishes at dundalk. Racing TV have a terrible angle that can be remedied with a ruler. Surprised that the market is getting it wrong so often, I think this is the third time in the last few weeks its been called wrong and TBH I think the market is more heavily influenced by what the commentators are saying rather than the evidence on screen.


                                                          This latest one the freeze frame the TV showed has a shadow or blur that made it look at a distance like the one on the nearside had won while the actual winner was trading for three minutes at 3/1 for decent amounts. It's also frozen about a meter short of the line.

                                                          0xRA3RN.jpg

                                                          Turning pro in 2022 sp?
                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                            Originally posted by Theresa View Post

                                                            Right! It’s very well done.

                                                            Dopesick next for you Ole.
                                                            I was all over that from the off, Keaton a tour de force.
                                                            This too shall pass.

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                                                              Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                              No, that's what you're saying.
                                                              I guess I did call him a racist. I should probably accept the low blow.

                                                              Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.

                                                              She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.

                                                              Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.
                                                              I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                Seems to me that using an extreme outlier murderous assault on a young woman is a terrible place to start a discussion of the undoubtedly real issue of violence by men against women (99% of which involves people known to each other) and then to frame it within the context of tangentially related, though no less real, phenomenon like objectification of women in media and pornography, male sexuality and the discomfort felt by women when out on their own in public.
                                                                The focus went onto women's general fears and micro aggressions because of the fact Ashling Murphy was running in daylight. It immediately highlighted the fact that women fear excersising at night time.
                                                                I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                  Its all down to the true crime podcasts innit.

                                                                  Ill take a wild guess that you are 10 times more likely to be raped by your father than murdered by a stranger...."Jamie, look that up for me.."
                                                                  This too shall pass.

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                                                                    Conor...please understand the restraint it has taken me all day to not ask for pics of the wife running so we can properly judge...your so lucky in not drinking atm.
                                                                    This too shall pass.

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                                                                      Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post


                                                                      every cloud....
                                                                      Really don't like him
                                                                      That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
                                                                      "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                        Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post
                                                                        I asked a friend does it affect her and she said that even in the mornings when she is leaving for work she puts on the light outside from inside, checks the street both ways and essentially races to her car. It's a pretty common thing and much more like that. My girlfriend said she wouldn't have even done what that girl was doing, jogging in the afternoon alone. Sure she tried skipping outside my apartment a few times and got hassled every time. The sexual stuff they receive is unending.

                                                                        Also to mention an experience of a fraction of what women receive, one time a friend of mine had came out and was scared to go to a gay club by herself for the first time so I brought her to help her out. Jesus christ the lads in there towards me, if I experienced that all the time I'd never want to go out anywhere. I don't think I've ever asked somebody about this stuff and they haven't been sexually assaulted. Since most are so easily physically overpowered it just adds to it.
                                                                        I had that experience in The Dragon on George's St about 15 years ago. I will admit to it being a bit funny at the time batting lads away but would be absolutely horrible if it happened every time you went out.
                                                                        I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                          Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                          The focus went onto women's general fears and micro aggressions because of the fact Ashling Murphy was running in daylight. It immediately highlighted the fact that women fear excersising at night time.
                                                                          And I'm saying that an extreme case of murder is neither a sensible nor a constructive place to promote that discussion.
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                                                                            Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                            I had that experience in The Dragon on George's St about 15 years ago. I will admit to it being a bit funny at the time batting lads away but would be absolutely horrible if it happened every time you went out.
                                                                            Do you never get sexual harassment from men when you are out jogging? I used to get a fair bit of it ( 30 years ago). Only time I was actually worried was from 4 fellas in a car along the canal. 95% sure they were just having a hilarious laugh, though it was pretty extreme.
                                                                            “Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.”

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                                                                              Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                                              And I'm saying that an extreme case of murder is neither a sensible nor a constructive place to promote that discussion.
                                                                              Fair point.
                                                                              I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                I guess I did call him a racist. I should probably accept the low blow.

                                                                                Fwiw, my wife runs at night all the time. She also runs the canal alone, but in daylight. Two things that seem to concern me more than her. Her words last night were 'I'm going out for a run in the dark because Fuck him'.

                                                                                She's been beeped at a few times and catcalled from passing cars and trucks. She's felt momentary fear in those moments but deals with it.

                                                                                Your wife is spot on of course, violence happens mostly in the home. It's the small cumulative things though that we have the power to reduce. The more we understand how women feel in situations like the beeping car example the less acceptable over time it becomes for lads to do it.
                                                                                I actually didn't think you did. I just assumed you didn't see my point about LA v Dublin.

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                                                                                No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.

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                                                                                  Thinks ive heard whilst out running .

                                                                                  30 years ago. Its a stew ya need - from passing yobs in a car
                                                                                  2 years ago. Run fatboy run . From teenagers . (One was my niece )

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                                                                                    Originally posted by ComradeCollie View Post

                                                                                    Do you never get sexual harassment from men when you are out jogging? I used to get a fair bit of it ( 30 years ago). Only time I was actually worried was from 4 fellas in a car along the canal. 95% sure they were just having a hilarious laugh, though it was pretty extreme.
                                                                                    No, never. The worst I got, and I think the only time was last year on a country road and a lad roaring abuse out of a car.

                                                                                    Did get a fright.
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                                                                                      Fear of *all* crime is at an all time high. While crime itself is at an all time low. Initially the disparity came from 24 hour news, in the last two decades. But the arrival of social media has massively exploded that.
                                                                                      "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                        Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                        Fear of *all* crime is at an all time high. While crime itself is at an all time low. Initially the disparity came from 24 hour news, in the last two decades. But the arrival of social media has massively exploded that.
                                                                                        This is the water I was trying to lead us to drink.

                                                                                        We've never been more fearful yet we've never been safer.

                                                                                        Now ask youself:
                                                                                        1. Why that is? and
                                                                                        2. Who benefits from keeping us in that state of fearfulness?
                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                          Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

                                                                                          I actually didn't think you did. I just assumed you didn't see my point about LA v Dublin.

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                                                                                          Emmet and I were talking about regular Joe white Kentuckians crossing the street when they saw regular Joe black Kentuckians, I think that's repugnant racism.

                                                                                          Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.

                                                                                          So apologies.
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                                                                                            Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                                            Thinks ive heard whilst out running .

                                                                                            30 years ago. Its a stew ya need - from passing yobs in a car
                                                                                            2 years ago. Run fatboy run . From teenagers . (One was my niece )
                                                                                            I regularly get some smartarse and a few nasty comments from the dealers and wannabees at Hamsterdam on the canal path at Clondalkin. I blank them but would always be a bit intimidated by the general scangeryness going on. Would be keeping my wits about me in the area knowing that the junkies coming and going wouldn't think twice about jumping me if they thought they could get away with a phone.

                                                                                            On the other hand two of my female colleagues have actually been robbed on that path and most of them report sexualised and racial comments.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                              That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
                                                                                              What did he do?
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                                                                                                Was trying out a few tone deafness tests and found this one of the better ones, though they do collect a lot of info in the process https://www.themusiclab.org/quizzes/td

                                                                                                themusiclab-org-your-tonedeafness-scores.png
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                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                                                                  That's a terrible bastardisation of what he did.
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post

                                                                                                  What did he do?
                                                                                                  Shouted abuse at perceived easy targets, for fucking years.
                                                                                                  Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
                                                                                                  Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
                                                                                                  All in the name of "comedy"
                                                                                                  People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                                    Emmet and I were talking about regular Joe white Kentuckians crossing the street when they saw regular Joe black Kentuckians, I think that's repugnant racism.

                                                                                                    Although I still believe the way you worded that post came across a little racist, I get now the point you were making. I thought you were saying that Kentucky example was fine.

                                                                                                    So apologies.
                                                                                                    My fault also as I didn't make myself clear and picked you up incorrectly also. You guys had skin colour as the criteria for the decision crossing the road. I was coming from the point that skin colour wasn't necessary the reason or motivating factor.

                                                                                                    Likewise with women seeing a man coming against them. They would analyse the risk based on the factors they observe i.e. is the person walking with a dog, is he jogging also, does he look dodgy eg homeless etc . We all do that assessment, but women are more attuned to the the threat factor as that is a natural survival skill they developed since the beginning of time. If they didn't have that.

                                                                                                    No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.

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                                                                                                      Wordle was a cant today . Eh eh eh?

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post



                                                                                                        Shouted abuse at perceived easy targets, for fucking years.
                                                                                                        Young wans were sluts and whores, young fellas were skangers and skobes.
                                                                                                        Any girl passing by and catcalled and oogled over a mic.
                                                                                                        All in the name of "comedy"
                                                                                                        Always struck me as a creepy individual, that pub landlord character wasn't much of a stretch for him.
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                                                                                                          Fairly important context imo:

                                                                                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_men

                                                                                                          "While women are more fearful of violent crime, men are at much higher risk of being victims of violent crime"
                                                                                                          https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed...dered-violence
                                                                                                          https://www.independent.ie/world-new...-40221010.html
                                                                                                          https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2018/5...im-to-violence

                                                                                                          On the streets, men are more likely to be the victims of "stranger danger" than women - more likely to be violently mugged, stabbed or beaten up. In the UK, men are two to three times more likely than women to be killed by someone unknown to them, with the 16-24 age group at highest risk.
                                                                                                          "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by AndyFatBastard View Post

                                                                                                            Yeah, see feminist theory states that it's all connected.
                                                                                                            Any thoughts on the use of the word 'femicide'? It's my first time coming across it, and for now find it kind of strange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide
                                                                                                            “Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.”

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                                                                                                              I really feel people are totally missing the point of what I'm on about.

                                                                                                              We all know the level of fear well outweighs the level of risk. It's all about that fear though.

                                                                                                              I'm talking about minor adjustments to our behaviour that we can make to shrink that fear.

                                                                                                              I also don't think it's reasonable to then say if I accept women can legitimately be in fear of good men that it follows that I should not condemn white people from Kentucky being irrationally in fear of black people.

                                                                                                              To do so would be to discard all manner of historical nuances. It's not a simple rising boats situation. The two positions are not mutually exclusive.
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                                                                                                                Touch wood in 30 years socializing in the City Centre I've never had any real hassle or trouble bar one attempted mugging when some fucker pulled a knife on me.

                                                                                                                Many times out with herself though maybe walking up Grafton Street at 3am or wherever and ive turned us down a side street or crossed over and she would be completely oblivious as to why i did it. Can only imagine what it is like for a woman own her own or even in a small group at times.

                                                                                                                There are an element of men out there and it will never really change in my opinion.

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                                                  I really feel people are totally missing the point of what I'm on about.
                                                                                                                  All our posts aren't about you Laz By the way I certainly wasn't trying to troll you when I congratulated Hitch on not tweeting about it.

                                                                                                                  All the stuff you advised is pretty much what I've done over the last 30 years or so. I do think it can help women feel somewhat less fearful in a small way. Unfortunately it does nothing to reduce the chances of something actually happening.
                                                                                                                  “Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders.”

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                                                                                                                    My first thought after Lazare's point was - hmm, people think that universals exist i.e. that "men" is something that exists in the world. I don't get to have any debating fun at all.

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                                                                                                                      Larceny by Munster down in Castres, wp.
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        58% of Covid hospital cases aren't there because of Covid. WTF like. Yes, I know they still have to be managed differently but the numbers are input into big decisions without this type of breakdown.



                                                                                                                        Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                                                          My first thought after Lazare's point was - hmm, people think that universals exist i.e. that "men" is something that exists in the world. I don't get to have any debating fun at all.
                                                                                                                          I'd love for you to elaborate on that. I don't really understand what you mean by either part.

                                                                                                                          Although, it doesn't smell very complimentary

                                                                                                                          If there's anyone that can sway my opinions it's you.
                                                                                                                          I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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