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    So, to try and respond a little less emotively.

    I think anyone with the inclination to understand my opinion and POV, to actually understand why I am emotive, can understand why if they actually read my posts.

    I think It is an extremely dangerous, and invasive overreach, for gov/pharma/tech (essentially this has become one arm) to suspend or take peoples right to work away if the want to choose what goes into their body. It's that simple. A lot of you seem to agree, that it should be a personal choice, but dont view that implicit coercion as not making it a choice, in what my definition of the word is.

    I wont be responding to anything else. Actually finding this whole exchange quite traumatic as I am quite a sensitive person.

    I believe we have a right to decide what goes into our body. I dont think our rights, to x y or z should be dependant on that. That's it.

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      To HJ and Hitch. Raoul basically insinuated I was stupid, referenced rogue/ hillbilly America.

      I was responding to that. I dont think its particularly juvenile.

      You think I'm stupid. I'll demonstrably prove I am not.

      but cheers.

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        Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
        Had to read back 20 posts to see arch-Zionist Raoul accused of being worse ​​​​than Hitler, but it was worth it.
        Nope. I suggested like the huge, percentage of us all, if we had the misfortune of being German in cusp NAZI German. Those of us.with family and well paid jobs, it's unlikely any of us would of had the bravery to put out life on the line to protest against something clearly beyond evil. To highlight, a global conscious that almost nothing would pierce that would motivate us to risk our life for our beliefs.

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          Originally posted by jbravado View Post
          So, to try and respond a little less emotively.

          I think anyone with the inclination to understand my opinion and POV, to actually understand why I am emotive, can understand why if they actually read my posts.

          I think It is an extremely dangerous, and invasive overreach, for gov/pharma/tech (essentially this has become one arm) to suspend or take peoples right to work away if the want to choose what goes into their body. It's that simple. A lot of you seem to agree, that it should be a personal choice, but dont view that implicit coercion as not making it a choice, in what my definition of the word is.

          I wont be responding to anything else. Actually finding this whole exchange quite traumatic as I am quite a sensitive person.

          I believe we have a right to decide what goes into our body. I dont think our rights, to x y or z should be dependant on that. That's it.
          Should people have the right to knowing endanger another person? Cause that is what you are asking for.
          No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, but I know none, therefore am no beast.

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            Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

            Serious question.
            Didnt mean to ignore you.

            I'm not places to answer

            You can check this yourself but currently CDC website

            0-19: age - 99.997 recovery rate

            20-29 age - 99.98%

            50-69 age -99.5%

            70 + 94.6 %

            I'd imagine this most vunerable agre group are now fully vaxed, non vaxxed getting vaxxed doesnt seem to reduce potential infection much. It clearly helps people get less sick.


            There could well be a pathogen or virus that I would be onboard with compulsory vaccination. I'm not placed to know what numbers that would have to correlate to.



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              Originally posted by pokerhand View Post

              Should people have the right to knowing endanger another person? Cause that is what you are asking for.
              I have articulated clearly multiple times I wont be replying to further comments. Out of courteousy I'll try and respond to any previously made.

              But, to extend you the same courteousy. If I get vaxxed tomorrow, I can still spread the disease. I don't see how healthy people, endanger others. The people I potentially infact are all vaccinated. Protected.

              We cant make this virus disappear. It exsists. Ultimately we will all have had it. And in all likelihood we will face it multiple times. I have had Covid. Recovered quickly. I dont see how getting vaccinated would change my endangering others. I don't want to endanger others. If getting vaxxed hugely reduced my likelihood to infect others I may reconsider but it's a leap I dont understand. I have natural immunity.

              Again wont be responding further, so not being rude if I dont respond to any response.

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                Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                Taking that view means that you accept the games have to shut down for months and months until we reach critically high levels of immunity. That means accepting temporary loss of income. Most people have taken that position.
                But the anti position, is that it’s all unnecessary and BS and we could be open all along. That’s obviously incorrect, but that position means you earnings don’t suffer (at least in their mind).

                People who are high impacted (live poker players, gym owners, MMA fighters) may not have the financial stability to accept option 1. Which makes option 2 much more appealing. Just a theory why it’s more prolific in certain fields.
                I agree 100% that the lens in which you view this whole thing is very likely to be shaded by the econmic impact it had on you. I have said this since the very beginning.

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                  Originally posted by premierstone View Post
                  he might not have taken the vaccine but he definitly took something, full on meltdown!
                  Yep, I stopped eating meat. I no longer eat processed food or refined sugar. I meditate with others two hours a day. I swim in the sea. I drink a huge amount of water. And I dont, use any social media or digest any news content.

                  Cheers. I hope your life is also well. Classy to adress as he and not say it directly to me. All the best.

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                    Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                    You state people shouldn’t be coerced, I agree with that. I think that also goes the other way. People shouldn’t be coerced or encouraged into not getting the vaccine. People spreading lies about the vaccine or covid. Some are doing it intentionally, they are scum. Others are probably just naive or gullible. Not bad people, just easily lead.
                    The unvaxxed who have valid reasons, are probably a tiny fraction.

                    You seem to acknowledge that the vaccine saves lives. You previously acknowledged that the fact people will choose to not get the vax is not fit for ridicule as it will mean some will die. People will be dead due to a choice they make. Thats where I struggle to follow your logic.

                    It’s easy to brush aside s the idiots who are getting it because there insist it’s got a microchips in it. But you acknowledge it’s net positive. and feel going the opposite way to the masses is the better choice. A negative choice for the sake of choice.

                    I’ve said all along that people should be free to choose not to. But they should have an actually reason underwriting that choice. Opposing coercing is not a reason, it’s retaliation.


                    I dont view it as retaliation. I view it as an expression of my right to, perhaps contortedly so, to oppose those losing their jobs for choosing to decide what goes in their body. It could well.be something I revisit. I currently view it as a valid reason, along with having naturally procured immunity but who knows could change. I agree with your other points.

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                      Originally posted by Degag View Post

                      You seem to be doing this yourself. I’ve seen a good few questions posed to you in a polite manner but haven’t seen a response.

                      You seem to have a holier than thou attitude with all this. ‘As in ‘I get it, how do all you numpties not.’ Ridiculing people saying they are not worthy of a response when they politely disagree with you.

                      People seemingly hold you in good regard here in the fact they are trying to engage with wild opinions reasonably

                      It’s not really a good attitude to have on your part IMO
                      I'm defo doing it to myself unfortunately. A good observation. I felt I responded for the most part, perhaps no directly, in very instance. Betting so hadnt huge time to devote.

                      Certainly not holier than thou, what you mean here I guess is, arrogant know it all attitude. I see a bit of that in my posts. I think it's an expression of my frustration that, what I think is so clear is viewed, as radical.

                      It's a platform, that will for the most part have these days opinions. I have spent the last year between communities where the views held here would be viewed as radical. So engaging in this, and this platform is dedo letting myself down.

                      I have met almost every person here at the tables. I never as far as I know didnt get on with them. I cant imagine many of them felt I was particularly dim in any way. I don't view any opinion expressed as wild if you read them from a lens of not painting me as some anti vaxxer, which I'm not
                      unfortunately such is the temperature of all this still that's what happens the moment you Express any.oppsong viewpoint.

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                        That's it's taking the steps to delete my account. So all the best to you all. Continued health and be well. Sorry I called you a prick Raoul and told you to fuck yourself Lazare.

                        Goodluck.

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                          Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                          How do you know what people are weighing up or not. From where are you casting this judgement. The people I know who are anti, live in a way, that tries to honour every sentient creature there is. They treat their bodies as such. Cold water. Fruit. Veg. No meat. No refined sugar. No processed shite. No alcohol. No porn. Sit with themselves. Read. Actually read and try and learn from the wisdom of the past.
                          It's a respiratory disease. These things literally do zero to reduce risk.

                          I go back to the drink driving analogy. If someone is happy to increase their risk to this disease is one thing. But, not being vaccinated increases the risk for everyone. Unless they're going to isolate themselves 100% from society, not being vaccinated is a very selfish decision. And it's misguided. People can be intelligent and wise and make silly mistakes.


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                            Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                            Nope. I suggested like the huge, percentage of us all, if we had the misfortune of being German in cusp NAZI German. Those of us.with family and well paid jobs, it's unlikely any of us would of had the bravery to put out life on the line to protest against something clearly beyond evil. To highlight, a global conscious that almost nothing would pierce that would motivate us to risk our life for our beliefs.
                            I was merely using your insult of Raoul in order to also insult him in a different way.

                            Don't agree with you in general. I think there are some levels of coordinated behaviour in the world, amongst world powers, but they tend to have quite obvious political gains. Covid ain't that.

                            I think you've overthought it and it's best to let it go and move onto the next thing. I do realise, as I've an uncle of the same mindset, that there's no point saying that. But you've clearly a class brain based on your poker tournament outcomes and I suspect you'll wake up in a few months and think "wowsers that was a strange few years, what's next?!".

                            Genuinely mean it without serious judgement, even though it is clearly 'judgey'. I've been through those periods myself.

                            ​​​​​
                            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                              Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post

                              It's a respiratory disease. These things literally do zero to reduce risk.

                              I go back to the drink driving analogy. If someone is happy to increase their risk to this disease is one thing. But, not being vaccinated increases the risk for everyone. Unless they're going to isolate themselves 100% from society, not being vaccinated is a very selfish decision. And it's misguided. People can be intelligent and wise and make silly mistakes.
                              How???? Vaccination it appears does little to impact the spread of the disease. How does it protect others. It protects you. You.

                              As. Does. Doing all the above. Food. Water. Etc etc etc. That protects you. Are you telling me living and being as healthy as possible doesnt impact your risk!???

                              As I guess you coulda argue, do natural immunity if your are lucky enough that to.doesnt fuck you up.

                              I mean is this real life????




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                                Originally posted by jbravado View Post
                                That's it's taking the steps to delete my account. So all the best to you all. Continued health and be well. Sorry I called you a prick Raoul and told you to fuck yourself Lazare.

                                Goodluck.
                                Ah don't do that. We all go back ages.
                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                  Originally posted by jbravado View Post
                                  ...
                                  I think It is an extremely dangerous, and invasive overreach, for gov/pharma/tech (essentially this has become one arm) to suspend or take peoples right to work away if the want to choose what goes into their body. It's that simple. ....
                                  This predicate is difficult to agree with. That all of your thoughts on the matter rest on this as a ground truth is obvious though. I also don't think it would be overly ridiculous to hold any of the views that you do if this predicate was valid.

                                  But that's very very much "if my aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle" stuff. (ty Gino)

                                  How are Govt and pharma "one arm"?

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                                    Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                                    Yep, I stopped eating meat. I no longer eat processed food or refined sugar. I meditate with others two hours a day. I swim in the sea. I drink a huge amount of water. And I dont, use any social media or digest any news content.

                                    Cheers. I hope your life is also well. Classy to adress as he and not say it directly to me. All the best.
                                    Surely now you are just taking the piss??

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                                      Closed_Account

                                      Perhaps post a bit about poker, food choices etc. Would be interested in hearing about that.

                                      If you find yourself getting so frustrated that you're telling people to GFY etc you're not doing yourself any good and like you say you are a sensitive person which makes it even more difficult.

                                      I think sometimes in life we need to compartmentalise things a bit to stay sane. Would enjoy hearing a tourney story, mental preparation etc.
                                      How did your health improve with giving up processed food etc.

                                      Anyway just my 2c good luck anyway.

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                                        Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                                        How???? Vaccination it appears does little to impact the spread of the disease. How does it protect others. It protects you. You.

                                        As. Does. Doing all the above. Food. Water. Etc etc etc. That protects you. Are you telling me living and being as healthy as possible doesnt impact your risk!???

                                        As I guess you coulda argue, do natural immunity if your are lucky enough that to.doesnt fuck you up.

                                        I mean is this real life????
                                        Not being old or obese is the main thing.

                                        People who are vaccinated are less likely to spread it, and if they do spread it they deliver a far lower viral load. Meaning milder infections. Also less likely to need hospitalisation or intensive care, which frees up space for others.

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                                          Originally posted by Emmet View Post

                                          This predicate is difficult to agree with. That all of your thoughts on the matter rest on this as a ground truth is obvious though. I also don't think it would be overly ridiculous to hold any of the views that you do if this predicate was valid.

                                          But that's very very much "if my aunt had wheels she'd be a bicycle" stuff. (ty Gino)

                                          How are Govt and pharma "one arm"?

                                          I'd really ask people, to read my articulated comment, which I have now said maybe 4 times. I dont want to be rude but I really no longer want this indefinitely rumble on. Awaiting a response from mods to delete account, no drama or toys of pram I just find most stuff here quite dull as I'm sure loads of people find this full.

                                          They have always been one arm, or at least for a long time.

                                          Please No longer quote me.

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                                            RIP Boycie.

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                                              Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                                              I have met almost every person here at the tables. I never as far as I know didnt get on with them. I cant imagine many of them felt I was particularly dim in any way. I don't view any opinion expressed as wild if you read them from a lens of not painting me as some anti vaxxer, which I'm not
                                              unfortunately such is the temperature of all this still that's what happens the moment you Express any.oppsong viewpoint.
                                              It’s ultimately up to you but the above is probably why you shouldn’t delete your account. I don’t know you from adam but many here do and they obviously don’t think you are dim or otherwise they wouldn’t have engaged with you like they did.

                                              I’d guess they think the opposite as such.

                                              We all have differing opinions. I personally think you are very wrong. But heh-ho. All i can nearly say for certain is we will all be talking about this for many years to come

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                                                Originally posted by premierstone View Post

                                                Surely now you are just taking the piss??
                                                No. I'm not.

                                                I don't use Insta. FB. Have no news feeds. Dont read the news papers. Certainly dont watch the news. Any views I have ate experential and guttural.intuitive sense of things.

                                                I coold be radically wrong.

                                                If you consider this social media, yeah maybe, but naively come in here as the place used to be utterly fascinating.

                                                I no longer find it so. People change. I have. so have a lot of the posters I used to resonate with. And huge numbers no longer post.

                                                Again I'd ask not to be quoted again. No longer want to be involved in the conversation. I also dont want anyone to feel.ignored.

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                                                  Originally posted by jbravado View Post
                                                  So, to try and respond a little less emotively.

                                                  I think anyone with the inclination to understand my opinion and POV, to actually understand why I am emotive, can understand why if they actually read my posts.

                                                  I think It is an extremely dangerous, and invasive overreach, for gov/pharma/tech (essentially this has become one arm) to suspend or take peoples right to work away if the want to choose what goes into their body. It's that simple. A lot of you seem to agree, that it should be a personal choice, but dont view that implicit coercion as not making it a choice, in what my definition of the word is.

                                                  I wont be responding to anything else. Actually finding this whole exchange quite traumatic as I am quite a sensitive person.

                                                  I believe we have a right to decide what goes into our body. I dont think our rights, to x y or z should be dependant on that. That's it.
                                                  I think there are certain merits to what you are saying but I just don’t think it applies here tbh. This is a global pandemic, the likes we have never as a generation have never seen before, so some measures which aren’t in some people ideals have to be taken for the greater good. It has, so far, very few (for the population of people who have taken it) side effects and lots of very obvious good ones so I don’t, in this instance, feel that’s it’s an overreach by govt to try to do what it can to pursuance take up. You do, and that’s fine but we mostly disagree hence why there’s few people backing you on it. I don’t think you’re stupid I just disagree.

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                                                    Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                                                    Closed_Account

                                                    Perhaps post a bit about poker, food choices etc. Would be interested in hearing about that.

                                                    If you find yourself getting so frustrated that you're telling people to GFY etc you're not doing yourself any good and like you say you are a sensitive person which makes it even more difficult.

                                                    I think sometimes in life we need to compartmentalise things a bit to stay sane. Would enjoy hearing a tourney story, mental preparation etc.
                                                    How did your health improve with giving up processed food etc.

                                                    Anyway just my 2c good luck anyway.
                                                    Thanks very much but cant imagine that would be very interesting and I have no interst in doing so. Defo right about the other stuff. Thanks and all the best.

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                                                      Originally posted by Denny Crane View Post

                                                      Not being old or obese is the main thing.

                                                      People who are vaccinated are less likely to spread it, and if they do spread it they deliver a far lower viral load. Meaning milder infections. Also less likely to need hospitalisation or intensive care, which frees up space for others.
                                                      Or internally obese etc etc. Be healthy. It will help. I'm fairly sure we may all be able to agree on that.

                                                      I dont know anything about that, not sure if it correlates with a lot of the emerging studies. Perhaps it does. I dont know

                                                      goodluck, be well.

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                                                        Closed_Account

                                                        All right chief, take it easy.

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                                                          Hard to see Sam get so exasperated. But also very hard to agree with him.

                                                          His underlying point that people are asleep at the wheel in comfy scenarios is very true.

                                                          I’ve had a lot of convos on this recently on the golf course. Makes for an awkward 4 hours when bucko tells you on the first tee how “Turdeau(good lol) and his cronies just want you to get vaxxed for control”.

                                                          Starting to just not engage anymore. Tired. Over it. Just wanna queef my ball into the woods in peace mate.
                                                          This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                                          All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                                          The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                                            . So the Chief died than ?

                                                            Remember this tribute

                                                             

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                                                              Originally posted by Theresa View Post
                                                              Hard to see Sam get so exasperated. But also very hard to agree with him.

                                                              His underlying point that people are asleep at the wheel in comfy scenarios is very true.

                                                              I’ve had a lot of convos on this recently on the golf course. Makes for an awkward 4 hours when bucko tells you on the first tee how “Turdeau(good lol) and his cronies just want you to get vaxxed for control”.

                                                              Starting to just not engage anymore. Tired. Over it. Just wanna queef my ball into the woods in peace mate.
                                                              QUEEF ? Ah here

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                                                                If ya ever listen real closely to a big right miss Willy. A big high spinny slice.

                                                                Pffffffffffffffffff

                                                                That’s the sound it makes.

                                                                This may or may not be an original thought of my own.
                                                                All efforts were made to make this thought original but with the abundance of thoughts in the world the originality of this thought cannot be guaranteed.
                                                                The author is not liable for any issue arising from the platitudinous nature of this post.

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                                                                  So maybe don't go to the canaries folks

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                                                                    Originally posted by jbravado View Post

                                                                    No. I'm not.

                                                                    I don't use Insta. FB. Have no news feeds. Dont read the news papers. Certainly dont watch the news. Any views I have ate experential and guttural.intuitive sense of things.
                                                                    Where are you getting your info from then? Because much of what you're saying is either plain wrong or extremely questionable, and whenever any of us point out a mistake you're making, you just move on to some other point where you're either plain wrong or extremely questionable. It''s like a never ending game of whackamole for us and it's extremely frustrating for everyone, and taking a huge amount of energy out of everyone including yourself. Break the cycle m8.
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                                                                      Originally posted by Theresa View Post
                                                                      If ya ever listen real closely to a big right miss Willy. A big high spinny slice.

                                                                      Pffffffffffffffffff

                                                                      That’s the sound it makes.
                                                                      A miss for sure .

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                                                                        Originally posted by Theresa View Post
                                                                        If ya ever listen real closely to a big right miss Willy. A big high spinny slice.

                                                                        Pffffffffffffffffff

                                                                        That’s the sound it makes.
                                                                        Best moment ever on a golf course was the time a load of ducks laughed at my m8s horrible tee shot.

                                                                        The perfect guy for it to happen to too. A lad that takes himself far too serious on a golf course.

                                                                        We were standing behind him. He swung this horrible disgusting clanger of a shot, ball skidding off the end of the tee box.

                                                                        Right at that moment about 50 ducks on a nearby lake burst out with 'WHEHH WHEHH WHEHH WEH'

                                                                        It was beautiful.
                                                                        I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                          Status Quo Bias: Those who were unfazed by Covid because it had a ~1% fatality rate were suddenly concerned about vaccines when they yielded a 1 in a ~million fatality rate. People see the risks of doing something but not the risks of doing nothing.

                                                                          From this amazing tweet thread, some cracking stuff in there...

                                                                          I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                            Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                            So maybe don't go to the canaries folks

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                                                                            I'm off in 10 days ​​​​​​
                                                                            Be grand....
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                                                                              Q1. Will employers have the right ask employees what their vaccination status is? Personal medical information. Who will check? How will the data be stored, protected and maintained? Regulations will have to be put in place right? Will the political appetite be there to put these regulations in place given how hot the issue will become?

                                                                              Q2. If an employer is given the right to esquire about and profile based on Covid vax status, will they be able to profile on other metrics too without it being in an employees contact? Flu jab status, drugs in system, alcohol in system, pregnancy or mental health status? HGV drivers are profiled based of rest taken between driving period for example, underpinned by employment law of course.

                                                                              Q3. Should employers who bar unvaxed employees show up to work have to pay them or at least enable them to work remotely where possible?



                                                                              Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                                                PG reading bbv




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                                                                                  Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                  Status Quo Bias: Those who were unfazed by Covid because it had a ~1% fatality rate were suddenly concerned about vaccines when they yielded a 1 in a ~million fatality rate. People see the risks of doing something but not the risks of doing nothing.

                                                                                  From this amazing tweet thread, some cracking stuff in there...

                                                                                  Sounds like prospect theory too.

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                                    Q1. Will employers have the right ask employees what their vaccination status is? Personal medical information. Who will check? How will the data be stored, protected and maintained? Regulations will have to be put in place right? Will the political appetite be there to put these regulations in place given how hot the issue will become?

                                                                                    Q2. If an employer is given the right to esquire about and profile based on Covid vax status, will they be able to profile on other metrics too without it being in an employees contact? Flu jab status, drugs in system, alcohol in system, pregnancy or mental health status? HGV drivers are profiled based of rest taken between driving period for example, underpinned by employment law of course.

                                                                                    Q3. Should employers who bar unvaxed employees show up to work have to pay them or at least enable them to work remotely where possible?


                                                                                    The answer to question 1 is no. As it was announced on Friday in the Work Safely Protocol that they wouldnt have the right to ask.

                                                                                    So that makes questions 2 and 3 redundant.

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                                                                      Q1. Will employers have the right ask employees what their vaccination status is? Personal medical information. Who will check? How will the data be stored, protected and maintained? Regulations will have to be put in place right? Will the political appetite be there to put these regulations in place given how hot the issue will become?

                                                                                      Q2. If an employer is given the right to esquire about and profile based on Covid vax status, will they be able to profile on other metrics too without it being in an employees contact? Flu jab status, drugs in system, alcohol in system, pregnancy or mental health status? HGV drivers are profiled based of rest taken between driving period for example, underpinned by employment law of course.

                                                                                      Q3. Should employers who bar unvaxed employees show up to work have to pay them or at least enable them to work remotely where possible?
                                                                                      Why don't you look at some of the real life cases where employers have done exactly this? I'm sure the answers are out there, it's not some hypothetical where these things need to be resolved - it's already happened.

                                                                                      Like those 3k French healthcare workers who are now suspended for example.
                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                        Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                                                        Status Quo Bias: Those who were unfazed by Covid because it had a ~1% fatality rate were suddenly concerned about vaccines when they yielded a 1 in a ~million fatality rate. People see the risks of doing something but not the risks of doing nothing.

                                                                                        From this amazing tweet thread, some cracking stuff in there...

                                                                                        I don't really ever look at Twittery stuff but that is some good shit right there.

                                                                                        'The toxoplasma of rage'.
                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                          Loads of employees do medicals in work, no? Or at least to start a job. The system for recording is already in place. Whatever it is.
                                                                                          "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                            I was listening to a podcast recently and the person was saying her favourite sandwich (she was quite old, so it's quite an old idea) is cheese and onion. Been thinking about it nearly nonstop since, without doing anything about it. Fairly certain I've never had a sandwich of purely cheese and onion, but she was raving about it. She was mentioning about how you need a 'solid' bread, like a sourdough, and good mature cheddar, and a proper onion (of which only her local shop in some London Borough still sold). I've just been imagining the flavours - that lovely reliable cheddar stonking away and then you crunch into a piece of onion and that starts blasting away doing its thing. Sounds glorious. And presumably the reason why cheese and onion crisps were the original flavour.
                                                                                            "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                              Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                                              So maybe don't go to the canaries folks

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                                                                                              Good call. There'll be more of it to visit when that stuff cools down.
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                                                                                                Originally posted by jbravado View Post
                                                                                                That's it's taking the steps to delete my account. So all the best to you all. Continued health and be well. Sorry I called you a prick Raoul and told you to fuck yourself Lazare.

                                                                                                Goodluck.
                                                                                                Good idea: your posts display all the signs of somebody going off the deep end

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                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                  I was listening to a podcast recently and the person was saying her favourite sandwich (she was quite old, so it's quite an old idea) is cheese and onion. Been thinking about it nearly nonstop since, without doing anything about it. Fairly certain I've never had a sandwich of purely cheese and onion, but she was raving about it. She was mentioning about how you need a 'solid' bread, like a sourdough, and good mature cheddar, and a proper onion (of which only her local shop in some London Borough still sold). I've just been imagining the flavours - that lovely reliable cheddar stonking away and then you crunch into a piece of onion and that starts blasting away doing its thing. Sounds glorious. And presumably the reason why cheese and onion crisps were the original flavour.
                                                                                                  Bag of cheese n onion. King is my preferred brand. Batch bread, sourdough a close 2nd, kerrygold butter lathered onto it and a big mug of strong tae. Make your sandwich and enjoy. Pure fucking bliss.

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Istanbul View Post

                                                                                                    Good idea: your posts display all the signs of somebody going off the deep end
                                                                                                    I'm not being smart but if he is , perhaps he needs some support . There is some merit in his points however I think he is extremely passionate about them as opposed to merely being argumentative. I disagree with his argument but glad hes thinking about it to that level . No point in debating the issue further we all seem polarised in our diff viewpoint. What lies ahead is very interesting for sure .


                                                                                                    btw Dun Laoghaire was hopping today . Was great .

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                      Why don't you look at some of the real life cases where employers have done exactly this? I'm sure the answers are out there, it's not some hypothetical where these things need to be resolved - it's already happened.

                                                                                                      Like those 3k French healthcare workers who are now suspended for example.
                                                                                                      In fairness I'd sat wombat was asking about Ireland specifically since the majority of posters here are in Ireland

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by The Istanbul View Post

                                                                                                        Good idea: your posts display all the signs of somebody going off the deep end
                                                                                                        Not sure why, but you have been utterly obnoxious to me 3 times in the last few times I posted. I have met you many times in real life and you were fine. We disagree politically essentially. That's Ok

                                                                                                        Deep.end, because I believe passion people should have a right to.decide to what goes into their body.

                                                                                                        I have been living in communities where people break breast together. Hug. Kiss. Live. No masks. No fear. People get sick. And recover. Acknowledge death is part of life. Actually sit with feelings of unpleasantness. Something almost everyone could do.

                                                                                                        Again I'd ask you not to reference me in th is ongoing conversation.

                                                                                                        Be well and all the best to you.

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                                                                                                          Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post

                                                                                                          I'm not being smart but if he is , perhaps he needs some support . There is some merit in his points however I think he is extremely passionate about them as opposed to merely being argumentative. I disagree with his argument but glad hes thinking about it to that level . No point in debating the issue further we all seem polarised in our diff viewpoint. What lies ahead is very interesting for sure .


                                                                                                          btw Dun Laoghaire was hopping today . Was great .
                                                                                                          I am extremely passionate about people have a right to decide what goes into their body. Yes. I am. That expression is now going off the deep end and as I am astonished that more here done feel the same, I'm off on one? Ok, if you feel like that.

                                                                                                          Suprised I have to say this to a group that conaideres themselves so intelligent but, depending on your echo chamber, you are the weirdo or the guy who agrees with everyone. There are millions upon millions around the world who share my beliefs that this right is worth something. You guys dont. Fair enough.

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post

                                                                                                            I don't really ever look at Twittery stuff but that is some good shit right there.

                                                                                                            'The toxoplasma of rage'.
                                                                                                            He did a similar one last year, equally as good if not better..

                                                                                                            I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                              [QUOTE=Gimmeabreak;n1702601]

                                                                                                              would you be comfortable handing your old man a 20 chamber revolver, telling him there’s one bullet in it, and that he had to spin the chamber and fire off one shot to his temple per month for the rest of his days?


                                                                                                              I have seen my father go from being an active man, driven by social interaction, to a terrified old man, who crosses the road if he sees people coming who watches the news every day, gorges on death numbers and has to cajoled into leaving his house.

                                                                                                              honestly I'd rather not see him rot. Grey. All of this lies in they grey.

                                                                                                              Not black and white. But I'm the one not thinking clearly? Sure.

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                                                                                                                Closed_Account Sam, not sure what else you've done with some of the stuff you've wrote, as in, put out there but this is a nice forum if you ever felt like sharing. I think your mosquito poem would be well received.

                                                                                                                A poetry forum for all, share your works in a friendly, welcoming environment
                                                                                                                I hold silver in tit for tat, and I love you for that

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jbravado View Post
                                                                                                                  I have been living in communities where people break breast together.
                                                                                                                  Your phone's autocorrect is dishing the dirt!

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                                                                                                                    [QUOTE=jbravado;n1702604]

                                                                                                                    Not sure why, but you have been utterly obnoxious to me 3 times in the last few times I posted. I have met you many times in real life and you were fine. We disagree politically essentially. That's Ok

                                                                                                                    Huh??? Are you sure? I have never been intentionally obnoxious to you (or to any other poster I hope). Anyway, as you say yourself, be well.


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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dobby View Post

                                                                                                                      In fairness I'd sat wombat was asking about Ireland specifically since the majority of posters here are in Ireland
                                                                                                                      OK, but France\Italy have the same EU legal framework so surely not that much of a leap forward?
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        RIP Greavsie.

                                                                                                                        It's a funny old game.
                                                                                                                        "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                          To balance my previous point on country v Dublin indoor requirements was in a bar off Stephens Green on Saturday and no info asked for or Covid Cert etc. Things seem to be loosening up fairly qucikly.

                                                                                                                          PS - No need to delete your acoount Sam, there are valid points on both sides and you are in a passionate place about arguing your point which is just your personality coming through.

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