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From the BBV
The Fitzwilliam Card Club - one of Ireland's best-known all-night poker venues - announced last night it has closed with immediate effect, blaming the move on the Government's new gambling act.
Last edited by Dice75; 17-12-19, 12:30.
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Irish Times Story on Fitz Closing
New gambling laws force Fitzwilliam Card Club to close with the loss of almost 80 jobs, its owners claim.
Fitzwilliam Card Club, a private members’ casino close to Merrion Square in central Dublin, closed it doors on Monday with the loss of 78 jobs, 52 of them full-time.
The business blamed the Gaming and Lotteries (Amendment) Act, 2019 for its decision, saying parts of the law, passed by TDs and senators last week, effectively bar it from operating. President Michael D Higgins is expected to sign the Gaming and Lotteries Act into law this week and a commencement order should bring it into force shortly afterwards. The law makes it a criminal offence to operate without a permit or a licence.
Lawyers advised the casino club’s operators that under the act, it required a gaming permit to continue trading.
The law only allows the State to issue permits where the chances of all the players, including the banker, are equal. This means that anyone seeking a permit has to provide gaming for free. The odds offered on games such as roulette and blackjack include a margin - called the “house edge” - which favours casinos providing them.
The edge, normally around 2 to 3 per cent, provides the business with its turnover, but it means that the odds are skewed against the players. Thus not everyone has an equal chance of winning.
A spokesman said that the Fitzwilliam highlighted to Government and opposition TDs that the law threatened its business.
“Sadly, our pleas fell on deaf ears and an amendment was not granted to safeguard the business and our 80 employees,” he added.
The club said it will fulfil all obligations to workers, including leave and statutory redundancy payments. It has also pledged to members that it will honour any deposits or chips that they hold.
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Right or wrong at the end of the day, 80 people and their families are heading towards Christmas without jobs; through no fault of their own ....
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Originally posted by iLoVePoKeR View PostDoes this mean Dermot Desmond's Sporting Emporium has to close as well?
Something stinks.
Fitz could stay open and still put on poker tournaments if it wanted to, but they only make their money from the casino games.
At the end of the day if it's illegal to supply the service ; it's also illegal to avail of said service?
Maybe someone who knows about the law, can tell us if it will be an offence to simply play in a poker tournament after it's signed into law?
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Originally posted by GimmeabreakDo the people who believe the reason given by the fitz for closing their doors also still believe in Santa Claus?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was as simple as lobbying on behalf of a super casino that intends to develop here, wanting to tidy up all loose ends before they set up.
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Originally posted by PokerCharter View PostI suppose Sporting may have to go the same route....
At the end of the day if it's illegal to supply the service ; it's also illegal to avail of said service?
Maybe someone who knows about the law, can tell us if it will be an offence to simply play in a poker tournament after it's signed into law?
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Seen this lad, JJ wood comenting on the journal,seems to know exactly whats going on with the new legislation
copied from his linkedin
"JJ Woods
International Casino Gaming Consultant (available)
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We are specialists in the setting up of Casinos around the world and we are presently working in Ireland. I have just completed this latest project www.carltoncasinoclub.com responsible for all areas including design , table mix , and all facilities installed. We are well versed with existing regulations for foreign investors to invest here in Ireland, We work closely with the necessary authorities to smooth the way for 'New Casino Start Up Operations'.Of course we also have vast experience Internationally in the setting up and management of Casinos. We have assisted Governments in assembling new Casino gaming legislation worldwide."
2016 article written by himThe smarter you play the luckier you'll be
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Originally posted by Irisheman View PostJust feel so gutted for the staff and how tough it must be for them with that little notice coming into Christmas
They did nothing to deserve this...
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I wonder have they asked employees not to speak about the closing?
I would have thought at least one or two would have come on to vent their anger.
Why does JP not have to close for example, I've never been to the club but do they not have casino games as well? And will this affect Larry Santos' club, they have casino tables don't they?
It's beginning to feel like the reasons the Fitz are giving for closing really isn't the reason at all.
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New to the forum but have been playing in the Fitz for years. I have some cash chips from the last time I was there in October. I phoned when I saw the news of the closure, they confirmed it was true, took my details and said they'd call me back to let me know how to cash them in. I've tried calling multiple times since and they haven't got back to me.
Any tips/advice would be helpful..
TIA
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Originally posted by Jungle View PostAh ok, I'll send another mail. Maybe it'll be a new year miracleYou are technically correct...the best kind of correct
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Originally posted by Kayroo View PostIf you held enough chips it might be worth considering your full suite of options. The casino is closed. The company that owns it is not.
Definitely worth chasing.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by JP Poker View PostIf anyone still has any Fitz cash chips I'll accept them in my club.
I'll accept Fitz cash chips up to the end of the month with a max value of €250 per person per night.€10,000 GTD New Monthly Tournament
Village Green Card Club, Last Thursday of the Month, €270 Freezeout
€1,000,000 GTD - Irish Open
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