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    Haha, thanks lads. Ah that's a pity Benny, I mean that you won't get to see it. My advice for a Sunday play place party is to sacrifice your Saturday night beers
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      Weird, the second part of my post got cut off.

      Was just saying I feel really good. Doesn't feel like Covid took much of a bite out of the fitness if at all.

      Still have a bit of a residual cough but am not concerned about it.

      Gonna attack it regardless.

      Hitting up the expo soon. Looking forward to that.
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        Looking forward to the long trip report Laz, I have a feeling you're going to nail it.

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          can you share your race number so we can follow your progress on the tracker? (pm if necessary).

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            Originally posted by shrapnel View Post
            can you share your race number so we can follow your progress on the tracker? (pm if necessary).
            Will do. I'll have it in the next hour or two.
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              Originally posted by Keane View Post
              Looking forward to the long trip report Laz, I have a feeling you're going to nail it.
              Thanks man
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                Bib no. is 784
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                  Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                  Bib no. is 784
                  Good luck. That number has to be a bit of a target on your back though.
                  I'd say anyone with 10000+ on their singlet who passes you will be thinking 'have a bit of that then, ya 3-digit wanker'.

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                    Have a great run Laz.

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                      Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post

                      Good luck. That number has to be a bit of a target on your back though.
                      I'd say anyone with 10000+ on their singlet who passes you will be thinking 'have a bit of that then, ya 3-digit wanker'.


                      Yeah, there's something cool about a 3 digit one alright.

                      Think it's to do with how early I got to the expo.

                      Could be how early I entered too, think I bought it soon after it opened in 2019.
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                        Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                        Have a great run Laz.
                        Cheers man. Feeling good and ready now.
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                          Good luck tomorrow Lazare. Obviously always being lurking on this thread. You deserve a savage marathon after all your training over the years. Would love to go up and watch but working and no time off

                          Have a bit of a case of fomo over it. I basically gave up running. Just doing strength work and small cardio in gym for golf. Trying to play good golf a day after 10ks, 10m or long runs wasn't exactly helping the golf swing. My hip mobility and other stuff was getting a bit affected

                          Can muster the odd 5km or 5m but won't exactly go at a marathon again
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                            Enjoy it obviously.

                            The classic 10-10-10 really is the nuts. You'll enjoy the first 10 miles. Try not to enjoy it too much and pace yourself well. Then the training comes in for the next 10 miles. My parents saw me at Chapelizod at 10m the time I did it and I had paced it perfectly and it felt like a breeze. Was still smiling ish.. Heartbreak Hill isn't actually too bad.

                            Last 10km is when the profanity comes. Just think good/happy thoughts last mile doesn't count. You've made it. Finish like an animal. I want a 6x.xx min mile to finish from you. That last 300 metres is absolutely epic, probably the thing I'd miss most

                            And then enjoy the craft wanker beers
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                              Haha, cheers Eoin, yeah, it's an amazing buzz.

                              Good shout on the 10 10 10.

                              My pacing strategy is to use the 5km splits. I have a goal average pace for each 5k block. I'll also be paying attention to mile splits.

                              Aiming for a negative split, so the first half will be taken quite easy. I should get to Walkinstown feeling pretty good, the work begins then.

                              Aim is to go through halfway in 1:41:x and do the second half in 1:38:x.

                              That's the hope anyway.

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                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                Haha, cheers Eoin, yeah, it's an amazing buzz.

                                Good shout on the 10 10 10.

                                My pacing strategy is to use the 5km splits. I have a goal average pace for each 5k block. I'll also be paying attention to mile splits.

                                Aiming for a negative split, so the first half will be taken quite easy. I should get to Walkinstown feeling pretty good, the work begins then.

                                Aim is to go through halfway in 1:41:x and do the second half in 1:38:x.

                                That's the hope anyway.
                                Doing great so far and bang on time at halfway. You were a few minutes off the pace after 15km, so wasn't sure you'd make your target. Keep it going !

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                                  Originally posted by shrapnel View Post

                                  Doing great so far and bang on time at halfway. You were a few minutes off the pace after 15km, so wasn't sure you'd make your target. Keep it going !
                                  Came here to post this... 1.41 half when you call a 1.41 half is class
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                                    3h26. Awesome! Well done laz. Now sit down and have a beer. Well deserved

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                                      Thanks lads, the second half didn't go to plan, a lot of cramping from mile 18 onwards.

                                      Delighted with the 3:26 regardless. I'll pop up a more detailed review.

                                      Few pince right now
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                                        Good man Lazare. Well done and enjoy the pints.

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                                          Great job. Be proud

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                                            Awesome time Laz, really well done.

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                                              Looking forward to the trip report Laz.
                                              THe cramping must have been a bastard to deal with.
                                              ​Say you're enjoying a massive breakfast this am!

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                                                Originally posted by dinekes View Post
                                                Looking forward to the trip report Laz.
                                                THe cramping must have been a bastard to deal with.
                                                ​Say you're enjoying a massive breakfast this am!
                                                Considering what time he eats dinner at he's definitely a brunch man.

                                                Trip report will be good. No pressure
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                                                  I just put up a race report on boards, on my training log. I'll c&p it here.
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                                                    DCM2022 race report

                                                    (gonna preface this by saying that things didn't go to plan, I should be disappointed but I'm not, I'm over the moon, but will be looking for advice as to why it went 'wrong')

                                                    Got a welcome text from Elaine on Saturday evening asking me about the morning Luas times and I realised that we'd be heading in there together. In 2017 I met up with a big bunch of fellow novices and it was fantastic to be with them, experiencing it with them. In 2018 I headed in alone, and ran alone and the difference was stark. So E's text gave me a good uplift. I copped also that, given we both were targeting 3:20 we would likely be running it together. People have different race strategies so I didn't strongly suggest it to her, but we kinda just naturally did it.

                                                    We got off the Luas and nipped into a cafe on O'Connell St for a toilet visit, which was wise given the queues at the start area.

                                                    Got to the bag drop at about 8:25 or so. Had a throwaway jumper over the singlet, thinking on Sat that I'd discard it over the first mile, but it was warm enough to ditch it way before the gun. Maybe that should have been a warning of what was to come, but I didn't think it nor heed it.

                                                    Gun went and we were off. E and I both agreed that we would run our own race, we would run together but if one of us wanted to hold back or head off we would do that.

                                                    First couple of miles were a touch slower than planned but not by much, it was congested and expected, zero stress about it. There were a fair few people that I felt just didn't belong in that wave, maybe dropping fitness since buying the bib and not having the sense to drop waves.

                                                    After all my shenanigans in the DCM thread about the 5k water station I felt I needed to grab a bottle at it. I said to E 'Don't tell anyone I grabbed a bottle here' lol. Another warning sign not heeded. I was very well hydrated, but I was thirsty, at 5k. I could run 20 miles without feeling thirst so this was unusual, but it's only unusual now, on reflection. During it I was just enjoying life, feeling amazing.

                                                    Onboard fuel was 3x 27gram tailwind in soft flasks, 6x Enervit Cola gels and a pack of electrolyte chews. Plan was to add 250ml of water to the soft flasks and sip, and to gel up at 5 miles and every 35 mins or so thereafter. The chews were there as a back up. Everything went well to plan on that front. (Although I lost a used soft flask at Milltown. I thought I stuck it into the back of the belt and heard a roar behind me, some lad picked it up off the road. I grabbed it off him and said TYVM then put it into the back of the belt. Only went and did the exact same thing and saw it bounce on the road lol. Thankfully that lad detoured off course for a pee and didn't see that his chivalry was wasted)

                                                    Felt the pace a little hot on Chesterfield so I said to E that I planned to do 8 min miles up this stretch and she was welcome to head on. We stuck with each other though. Crowds really injecting energy here, the first real roar at the turn onto it. Got my first shoutout here from @Omeceron, a fellow 2017 novice. I probably lost a ton of yards and energy running wide into crowds with arms in the air, feeding off the energy they gave back. I'd inject it. Was amazing.

                                                    10k went by in a blip and on target. Loving life right now. Super strong, high fiving kids, endorphins on both ends of my body. Mile splits were bang on, some of them literally bang on to the second. That's some confidence boost.

                                                    Mile 6 - 9 were pretty uneventful other than everything was perfect. My worries leading up to it about whether Covid had taken a bite were unfounded and tossed aside. I figured I'd know by 10k whether the lungs were impacted and they weren't. I had never felt fitter.

                                                    In and around mile 9 E and I got separated. I pushed on a little. Not sure whether it was mile 9 or 10 but I noticed I was about 30 secs behind the split on the band. This concerned me a little, it probably shouldn't have. I had planned to go through halfway in 1:41:x, and this was my main focus at this point, in no small way because I had told people that were tracking me. So I injected a bit of pace. Still all in line with the pace strat.

                                                    Went through halfway in 1:41:38, bang on target. Now the plan was a 1:38:x second half.

                                                    Sailed up Crumlin road, yeah it was breezy but nothing too difficult I felt. There's always a big line of unfortunate cars here that timed things shitly. I shouted at one lad sitting in his idling car 'ye wanna swap with me?' and got a good belly laugh from him. Said it again to some wan a few cars back and she just gave me daggers lol. That was the end of that joke. I suppose the point here is I was in great form, still strong, still loving it.

                                                    Great buzz running through Walkinstown rbout, again running the wide line getting the crowd going, the ultimate buzz. Another shoutout from a friend here. My wife said she would be at Borza on Crommelsfort rd if she managed to get down. Ran by there and didn't see her, but no biggie. Was only half expecting her anyway. Spotted my best friend then at the Sub and got a massive boost from that. 200m later there's my wife and 8 year old. Another injection of positivity. It's really amazing what those encounters do for you. I was on fire right now, so so strong.

                                                    Saw another pal at KCR and gave him the bicep curl to let him know I was feeling strong.

                                                    I was feeling so good and so fresh here, I was running at 4:27 - 4:30 kms and it felt effortless. My breathing was perfect. Felt so in control. I started doing some maths and realised I was heading for about a 3:18 for a target smash. Everything was visualised. Couldn't wait to update Strava with the BQ.

                                                    Then, during mile 18, coming towards Rathgar and out of the blue I got a couple of sharp jolts of cramp pain in the quads. I instantly knew the BQ was gone. The mood change was instant too. Fook.

                                                    Dropped the pace back to about 5:10km to see if the pain eased off. Thoughts of DNF at the forefront. 8 miles to go. If I seize up here it's game over.

                                                    Thankfully the eased off pace did the trick. I attempted a few times to get the pace back up but the legs were having none of it. As soon as I picked it up I got little electric shocks of pain, now throughout the legs, not just the quads. Bollox anyway I thought.

                                                    It's a horrible feeling, as I'm sure all of you reading are familiar with. You've a fooking long way home, suffering for it's entirety is puke enducing. The shooting pain got more and more frequent, even with the reduced pace. At mile 21, at what must be some convent I felt I got hit by a sniper. Both legs just gave up, shooting pain in every area. I had to stop. Two nuns came over to me to help, shouting across the road to some other guy, something about getting a medic. I looked over the road and saw this man trying to make his way over to me and I panicked thinking they were gonna put me in a wheelchair or something. Game over if that happens. Fook the fook out of that I thought, although it did feel like my credits were rolling. I said 'No No, thank you, I'm grand, thank you, it's just a cramp'. I stretched it out for what felt like about 40 secs or so and thankfully was able to get back running. It must have only been about 20 secs though looking at the splits later.

                                                    Got up heartbreak running, but didn't have the confidence to barrel back down Fosters. At UCD I got a bit of confidence back, knowing it was just a parkrun. Did some maths and figured some sub 5 min kms from this point would get me a sub 3:25. Didn't factor in the extra 200m plus the poor race line form (but good crowd control) I'd shown. Still though, it was a good thing to focus on.

                                                    Turning left at the end of Nutley was fantastic, in terms of positivity. I'd had thoughts of DNF that were banished now. Just grind this thing out. One foot in front of the other. 2k to go and I found something in me, managed to ignore the pain and pick things up again. Was suffering but the end is nigh.

                                                    Ran through the purple mile and did what I did at Myos, pumping the arms for the crowd, and they roared back and filled my veins. Ran onto the mat with my hands up in the air and fist pumped.

                                                    3:26:24 chip.

                                                    Six minutes and 25 seconds outside my target, outside a BQ. I'm so far from unhappy though. I'm wide open to advice and critique as to how things went a little south, I'm no shrinking violet and will always take critique as constructive, so please don't hold back.

                                                    I just know I've not peaked. This block has filled me with such amazing confidence. I've loved every minute of it, even the gritty Monday morning runs. I nailed every session and missed a total of four runs, three of them because of Covid and one because of travel. Didn't miss one out of lethargy.

                                                    More to come I feel.
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                                                      Just in case anyone's wondering, a BQ is a Boston marathon Qualifier, and for me that's 3:19:59.

                                                      The 'endorphins on both ends' refers to my shoes, Saucony Endorphin Pro3

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                                                        That's great Conor fair play to you. I've been keeping an eye on your thread on boards and for some reason this time around reading it has actually really made me seriously think about training for one. I think it's how well you nailed the training plan and the buzz you were getting out of doing so.

                                                        Up to the point when you started to get cramp pains all of a sudden were you running to target and still feeling strong?

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                                                          Originally posted by Lazare View Post
                                                          Haha, cheers Eoin, yeah, it's an amazing buzz.

                                                          Good shout on the 10 10 10.

                                                          My pacing strategy is to use the 5km splits. I have a goal average pace for each 5k block. I'll also be paying attention to mile splits.

                                                          Aiming for a negative split, so the first half will be taken quite easy. I should get to Walkinstown feeling pretty good, the work begins then.

                                                          Aim is to go through halfway in 1:41:x and do the second half in 1:38:x.

                                                          That's the hope anyway.
                                                          That’s amazing how low you got (in terms of having to stop) and the highs of getting through 18miles without issue, it really is a journey! You looked in fine fettle on Nutley had no idea you were suffering so badly only shortly before hand!

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                                                            Originally posted by Keane View Post
                                                            That's great Conor fair play to you. I've been keeping an eye on your thread on boards and for some reason this time around reading it has actually really made me seriously think about training for one. I think it's how well you nailed the training plan and the buzz you were getting out of doing so.

                                                            Up to the point when you started to get cramp pains all of a sudden were you running to target and still feeling strong?
                                                            Ah cheers man, that's fantastic to hear. You will definitely not regret it, I say that right now with the body of a 90 year old haha.

                                                            I was flying up to that point. Was running 4:27 kms and felt in full control. It was amazing. Breathing was totally fine throughout right up to the finish line too.

                                                            Cramp is a real prick.
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                                                              Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post
                                                              That’s amazing how low you got (in terms of having to stop) and the highs of getting through 18miles without issue, it really is a journey! You looked in fine fettle on Nutley had no idea you were suffering so badly only shortly before hand!
                                                              Cheers Joe, was a real boost to see you at that point. I actually couldn't believe I was able to run again after that brief stop.

                                                              Thankfully I didn't need to walk at all.
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                                                                Epic read Laz.
                                                                Fair play
                                                                People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
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                                                                  Originally posted by DeadParrot View Post
                                                                  Epic read Laz.
                                                                  Fair play
                                                                  Cheers dude
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                                                                    Must say i admire you discipline and training regime . We just went out and ran with a vague idea of how fast we were going with bleeding nipples and blood blisters in our shoes. You would have been a great coach for us. However you were probably doing your inter

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                                                                      Originally posted by Solksjaer! View Post
                                                                      Must say i admire you discipline and training regime . We just went out and ran with a vague idea of how fast we were going with bleeding nipples and blood blisters in our shoes. You would have been a great coach for us. However you were probably doing your inter
                                                                      Haha Willie, yeah, pure hard fuckers then.

                                                                      Boards athletics forum has been massive for me, have benefitted so much from the hivemind there. Following really good runners/athletes and picking up lots of good stuff. Learning from mistakes of others etc.
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                                                                        Great stuff Laz. Cheers for sharing. Always great to read people enjoying doing what they're doing. Wish I was as fast as you. Wish I was as fast as me 20 years ago.

                                                                        Deffo more to come from you.

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                                                                          Originally posted by BennyHiFi View Post
                                                                          Great stuff Laz. Cheers for sharing. Always great to read people enjoying doing what they're doing. Wish I was as fast as you. Wish I was as fast as me 20 years ago.

                                                                          Deffo more to come from you.
                                                                          Cheers Benny, it is so enjoyable this thing we do. Hopefully we'll still all be doing it as very old men
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                                                                            Almost has me signing up to 2023

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                                                                              Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post
                                                                              Almost has me signing up to 2023
                                                                              Do it Joe, I swear you won't regret it.

                                                                              Some people say the training is a slog but it all depends on your outlook. A guy with a sunny disposition like yourself will enjoy it, and focus on the incredible fitness and hesdspace it gives you.
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                                                                                Originally posted by Lazare View Post

                                                                                Do it Joe, I swear you won't regret it.

                                                                                Some people say the training is a slog but it all depends on your outlook. A guy with a sunny disposition like yourself will enjoy it, and focus on the incredible fitness and hesdspace it gives you.
                                                                                Yeah i really enjoyed getting better through lockdown and actually enjoy running the only thing i wouldn’t like is that it’s the only thing you can do which means I’d have to give up other sports (to do it properly anyway).

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                                                                                  Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post

                                                                                  Yeah i really enjoyed getting better through lockdown and actually enjoy running the only thing i wouldn’t like is that it’s the only thing you can do which means I’d have to give up other sports (to do it properly anyway).
                                                                                  Only in the last 4-5 weeks of the training block I would say. Tennis would probably be good cross training.

                                                                                  You would just need to be wise about how you structure your week. No high intensity running either side of other intense stuff.
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                                                                                    Only catching up on your report today Conor - great stuff and well done!!!

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                                                                                      Originally posted by ionapaul View Post
                                                                                      Only catching up on your report today Conor - great stuff and well done!!!
                                                                                      Cheers Paul
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                                                                                        These your ones Laz?

                                                                                        https://www.365rider.com/en/road-run...lime-ss22.html

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                                                                                          Originally posted by Keane View Post
                                                                                          No man, they're the training version, the companion shoe as said to me by the guy in Amphibian King.

                                                                                          Mine are the Endorphin Pro 3

                                                                                          https://www.saucony.com/IE/en_IE/end...-3/52954M.html
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                                                                                            Just seen they can be gotten a little cheaper..

                                                                                            https://top4running.ie/p/saucony-end...oaAnfgEALw_wcB
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                                                                                              Lazare wasnt following the thread but congrats, great report.

                                                                                              Glad you all are talking about running shoes, I should have checked in here before pulling the trigger on a pair.

                                                                                              ON CloudGo for something casual in the 5-10KM range? Brooks Ghost was an option too. Pretty sure the Adidas Ultraboost contributed to some plantar issues before and I know they’re a little narrow so avoided Mizuno

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                                                                                                Originally posted by Murdrum View Post
                                                                                                Lazare wasnt following the thread but congrats, great report.

                                                                                                Glad you all are talking about running shoes, I should have checked in here before pulling the trigger on a pair.

                                                                                                ON CloudGo for something casual in the 5-10KM range? Brooks Ghost was an option too. Pretty sure the Adidas Ultraboost contributed to some plantar issues before and I know they’re a little narrow so avoided Mizuno
                                                                                                Thanks man.

                                                                                                I would always advise going into a specialist to get guidance when you have an issue like plantar. Amphibian King are the best imo but there's plenty of places.
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