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Old 05-04-13, 20:13   #21
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Only heard rumours about it but hopefully they'll open a poker room. as long as they run it properly and listen to their customers I think they'll get on ok. Can anyone here confirm these rumours?
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Old 05-04-13, 21:14   #22
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Afaik they have made no decision as to wether to have a card room or not
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Old 06-04-13, 15:02   #23
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Mcwilliams id say is d talk of a lot of people these last few days lol lol ... go on mcwilliams u legend u hahaha..... d big question is whos mcwilliams lol
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Old 06-04-13, 16:06   #24
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Had to tell the truth about the place, just surprised more people haven't left their comments on the place.
Rabbit just got me going on my rant with his post.
Whoever rabbit is, is the big question

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Old 06-04-13, 21:19   #25
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The club went to the dogs over the past 2 years or so. I used to go in there regularly but lost interest as the atmosphere seemed to take a dip. Can't put my finger on it but they basically just pissed off their regular customers by running the poker aspect of the club into the ground.
It was fairly clear that poker became an annoyance to the place. Pity as it was very popular when it first opened and people were treated well. This is no criticism on Jude by the way, he'll be another member of staff affected by this closure.
Limerick definitely has the catchment numbers for another club if its run well.
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Old 06-04-13, 21:51   #26
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Me thinks that the following didnt help the club:

1. So called "Management" barring good players for asking questions about tickets
2. Certain player "winning" all the promotions by being paid before they had finished
3. Making up new promotions for entry to tournaments then stopping them after one or two nights because the club lost too much
4. Refusing to let a regular player bring in food from outside the club to suit his dietary needs because the club were losing the sale of a toastie
5. Not running a tournament on Chinese new year because they wanted the card room space for a party (as if the rest of the club wasnt big enough)
6. Having the "card room managers" boyfriend set the rules and structure for the games
7. Not being able to touch your iPod when at the table (hand was folded if you did)
8. Refusing to put sporting events on the tv instead of the tournament clock (albeit htis has changed since they introduced new tvs, but was the case at one point)
9. Allowing substitutes in for a play off to suit a certain player when was never allowed before, resulting in a regular losing out on a ticket (come to think of it havent seen said regular in a while)10. Not allowing dealers the talk with players
11. Barring 2 of the dealers boyfriends from the club and allowing a "managers" boyfriend to remain playing
12. "Manager" bad mouthing a player in front of other players (same player very well respected in numerous other clubs)
13. Not giving out full prizes at end of league
14. Not having full documented list of rules for a league
15. Having the most grumpiest cashier ever, would it kill you to say Thanks ( not angela BTW)
16. Changing the starting time of tournaments to an hour earlier when they were informed by a lot of players that this didnt suit them

These are just my feelings on the place recently, notice that i put manager in inverted comas, reason- she wouldn't manage a piss up in a brewery, absolutely useless IMHO and i know its the feelings of a lot of other players. I dont just think this about one particular manager but all of them as a whole. Can someone please tell me why a place wud need 6 managers and have only about 10 dealers??

Hopefully the rumors of a card room going into the Time Out on Parnell st are true, and i hope the Time Out doesn't make the same mistake as Fitzpatricks by hiring the management team for there.

I feel really sorry for the dealers and Jude who are by far some of the best dealers in the country, its a shame that some of these young ladies will lose there jobs in their new home because of the stupidness of their fellow country women (managers)
Rant over
Played 106 tourneys in there last year, played 3 times this year, enough said..
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Old 07-04-13, 01:16   #27
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Played 106 tourneys in there last year, played 3 times this year, enough said..
You're saying you are so bad at poker that you eventually went busto??
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Old 07-04-13, 01:29   #28
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In fairness I think this whole thread is a level.

Having read some of the most bizarre posts/opinions here all I want to do is play against these posters. Please don't close
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Old 07-04-13, 15:24   #29
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Me thinks that the following didnt help the club:

1. So called "Management" barring good players for asking questions about tickets
2. Certain player "winning" all the promotions by being paid before they had finished
3. Making up new promotions for entry to tournaments then stopping them after one or two nights because the club lost too much
4. Refusing to let a regular player bring in food from outside the club to suit his dietary needs because the club were losing the sale of a toastie
5. Not running a tournament on Chinese new year because they wanted the card room space for a party (as if the rest of the club wasnt big enough)
6. Having the "card room managers" boyfriend set the rules and structure for the games
7. Not being able to touch your iPod when at the table (hand was folded if you did)
8. Refusing to put sporting events on the tv instead of the tournament clock (albeit htis has changed since they introduced new tvs, but was the case at one point)
9. Allowing substitutes in for a play off to suit a certain player when was never allowed before, resulting in a regular losing out on a ticket (come to think of it havent seen said regular in a while)
10. Not allowing dealers the talk with players
11. Barring 2 of the dealers boyfriends from the club and allowing a "managers" boyfriend to remain playing
12. "Manager" bad mouthing a player in front of other players (same player very well respected in numerous other clubs)
13. Not giving out full prizes at end of league
14. Not having full documented list of rules for a league
15. Having the most grumpiest cashier ever, would it kill you to say Thanks ( not angela BTW)
16. Changing the starting time of tournaments to an hour earlier when they were informed by a lot of players that this didnt suit them

These are just my feelings on the place recently, notice that i put manager in inverted comas, reason- she wouldn't manage a piss up in a brewery, absolutely useless IMHO and i know its the feelings of a lot of other players. I dont just think this about one particular manager but all of them as a whole. Can someone please tell me why a place wud need 6 managers and have only about 10 dealers??

Hopefully the rumors of a card room going into the Time Out on Parnell st are true, and i hope the Time Out doesn't make the same mistake as Fitzpatricks by hiring the management team for there.

I feel really sorry for the dealers and Jude who are by far some of the best dealers in the country, its a shame that some of these young ladies will lose there jobs in their new home because of the stupidness of their fellow country women (managers)
Rant over
reminds me of a club in cork must be same people or trained by them
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Old 08-04-13, 19:07   #30
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Mentioned a bit about this in my last blog post. The full post is in the link in the signature but tl;dr - upper management meant the club was never run properly.

I could go into detail on so many of the points made but doubt there's much point wasting energy on it at this point. I can't help but comment on this point though:

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3. Making up new promotions for entry to tournaments then stopping them after one or two nights because the club lost too much
I found this hilarious. They basically had a promotion where a certain winning bet on a house game (I think it was mega texas hold em) resulted in a bonus (i.e. free entry to a poker tournament - i.e. a ticket worth €30). As far as I could tell, the promotion was massively +EV for the player and whoever came up with it obviously didn't even think about it. They pulled it after one night after losing too much. To be fair, i don't think you can blame them for pulling it. I just think it shows how incompetent some of the management can be to allow this promotion in the first place.
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Old 08-04-13, 20:23   #31
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Sad to see it go this way but can't say I'm surprised. While jude and the team did a fine job running the card room some of the decision making about promotions etc were pretty hard to fathom. General transparency was always an issue and as others have said, it always seemed like poker tournaments were thought of as more hassle than anything else. From a business point of view I presume they have done the sums and the space can return more using slots/ table games. Hopefully any staff laid off can find a job quickly. Maybe the Celtic lads might put Limerick on their circuit and see how it goes? Maybe JP might spread a monthly game down these parts? Plenty of donkeys who will play if the structure is right
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Old 08-04-13, 20:38   #32
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Sad to see it go this way but can't say I'm surprised. While jude and the team did a fine job running the card room some of the decision making about promotions etc were pretty hard to fathom. General transparency was always an issue and as others have said, it always seemed like poker tournaments were thought of as more hassle than anything else. From a business point of view I presume they have done the sums and the space can return more using slots/ table games. Hopefully any staff laid off can find a job quickly. Maybe the Celtic lads might put Limerick on their circuit and see how it goes? Maybe JP might spread a monthly game down these parts? Plenty of donkeys who will play if the structure is right
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Old 08-04-13, 21:31   #33
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Old 08-04-13, 21:42   #34
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Old 08-04-13, 23:44   #35
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Pity that the poker room is closing in Limerick although I am not surprised. I basically stopped going in there bcoz it was run so badly.

The management haven't a clue and are downright ignorant imo.

Removing the disabled bathroom and turning it into a small store room is an example of this. I know of two poker players who couldn't play in the club anymore bcoz of that insane decision.

Hope someone has the inititive to run a proper card club in Limerick in the future. Plenty of poker players in Limerick! BTW ye wont get a better TD than Jude.
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Removing the disabled bathroom and turning it into a small store room is an example of this. I know of two poker players who couldn't play in the club anymore bcoz of that insane decision.
And both of these players only played cash (often 3 to 5 nights a week) in a club that was struggling to get a cash table with 30+ every night for tourneys , at least they have somewhere to store the coffee...
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Old 09-04-13, 21:23   #37
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" Plenty of poker players in Limerick! BTW ye wont get a better TD than Jude"...... lol nice one jude
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Old 10-04-13, 15:47   #38
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taken from fitzpatricks limerick facebook page;
"Hey guys, Know everyones wondering whats gonna happen now that we're getting rid of the poker room.... but we're still keeping two tables so there will still be games on...
For this week tho, Poker as usual 8 every night "

Fitzpatricks haven't advertised a game in months on facebook or here and now that there getting rid of the poker room they start advertising again.Ridiculous.wp

When you look at the amount of local players traveling for a game,ie galway,cork and clonmel, that'll tell you that the city is crying out for a decently run game. IMHO i think having no local competition made them to cocky and members patience just got pushed to the limit.

last years paddypower open league was the nail in the coffin and new management didn't offer enough to entice players back.i just hope that jude and the dealers get looked after because you couldn't fault them.
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Old 10-04-13, 22:54   #39
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The best way to describe that club is that IT IS A JOKE SHOP AND THE SO CALLED MANAGERS HAVEN'T A CLUE...............................
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Old 11-04-13, 01:35   #40
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yes one would think that limerick has a big enough poker playing community to keep at least 1 properly run card room going. I was only in the place twice ( not from limerick) where i played a small bit of cash later in the evening. Wouldnt go back .... not going into reason much but SLOW, UNWELCOMING RAN Like HOME GAME, POST MORTEMS FROM BAD PLAYERS THEMSELVES. I had the impression it was the same heads there all the time.

Plenty of people i know like a live game of cards in limerick but wouldnt go near that place. Maybe the casino is run bad but at the end of the day all to run a cash game is easy whatever about tournaments and gimmicks. Maybe the problem was closer to home
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