I've seen Australia 0 points quoted at 6/4........ Thoughts?
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Originally posted by Percy007 View PostI've seen Australia 0 points quoted at 6/4........ Thoughts?X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by The Situation View Post^One of the few bets I've had so far.
Great minds or fools seldom differ?Last edited by NewApproach; 28-05-14, 17:19.
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...Last edited by Hitchhiker's Guide To...; 29-05-14, 11:09."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil
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Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostThat's some of the similar reasoning behind Dzeko @ 100/1
They're odds on to get out the group involving Iran/Nigeria and will face the winner of a weak Group E which will probably be France. If they can somehow top their group ahead of Argentina, they will face maybe Switzerland unless there's a shock, so there's a possible 4, maybe 5 games for Dzeko.
In 6 out of the last 8 World Cups, 4 goals would have been enough to get you into the EW payouts, and with 10 goals in 10 qualifying games for Dzeko, and his great scoring form for Man City, there's no reason why he can't score enough goals to be there or thereabouts. I like Dzeko top scorer for Bosnia @ 13/8 too.
Into 66/1 after 2 goals last night against Ivory Coast, nice shout
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had a look at the Player of the Tournament market. Anyone that has Bet365, Neuer is 200/1 there.
Justifying 200/1 shots is always a bit ridiculous but....
If Germany go deep, you'd have to think Neuer will be a big part of it. Ideally, you'd want an all-round good team performance with a sharing of the goals for Germany (likely as there's a lot of goalscoring midfielders in the German team) and heroic performances from Neuer behind a team that leaves a lot to be desired defensively (imo. Low is a poor coach imo and Germany are set up to give teams more of a chance than they should. So that leads to the conclusion that if they are to progress, the keeper would need to be in top form).
Germany go far or win the tournament, and there's no great standout performers for any other team (Brazil flop, Spain grind it out, Messi isn't the superstar for Argentina, Ronaldo goes out at the group stage, and every other team's good performance is a result of the manager).
Also, if Germany get to the final, I 100% guarantee Neuer will have had a good tournament and the pundits will all be talking about Kahn in 2002 and how after such a great tournament he made a mistake in the final. If Germany go on to win, Neuer will have done what Kahn could not and will be the German hero and naturally be awarded the player of the tournament.
So there you go, a 200/1 shot that's effectively even money
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...also the only goalkeeper to win............... so obviously due to, makes it 4/7.
There is a golden glove prize too.X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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I'm only on Oscar @ 50/1 for Player of the Tournament at the moment.
I'm not sure Neuer will have a whole lot to do in the group stages, so you're probably banking on a couple of peno shootout victories for the Germans to give him a chance to stand out. Germany are 4/4 in WC shootouts, and a total of 2 shootouts is the betting favourite, so Germany will need to be under a lot of pressure in their games for the bet to come off. glgl
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Originally posted by Warper View PostIf brazil win the WC then Neymar will get the player of the tournament as he is head and shoulders above the rest of the team. He is simply awesome. Anyone that fancy brazil are better off backing Neymar @ 8-1 rather than 3-1 on Brazil.
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Originally posted by Warper View PostIf brazil win the WC then Neymar will get the player of the tournament as he is head and shoulders above the rest of the team. He is simply awesome. Anyone that fancy brazil are better off backing Neymar @ 8-1 rather than 3-1 on Brazil.
Also not that it particularly has a bearing on player of the tournament odds as defenders are rarely recognized but Thiago Silva is their best player by a considerable distance.Profit before people.
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X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostCouldn't back this with stolen. Wouldn't even have him on a comparable level to any of the legends of Brazil past yet, didn't set the world alight at Barca this season at all, if anything going on pure form he was overplayed (due to politics more than anything) as Alexis and Pedro had better seasons than him. Still lots of potential but isn't anything like the finished article yet.
Also not that it particularly has a bearing on player of the tournament odds as defenders are rarely recognized but Thiago Silva is their best player by a considerable distance.
I think IF you think 3/1 is a good price for Brazil to win the tournament, then 8/1 for Neymar as player of the tournament is probably a good bet, but personally I think 3/1 is very short.
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Originally posted by Jam-Fly View Post
I think IF you think 3/1 is a good price for Brazil to win the tournament, then 8/1 for Neymar as player of the tournament is probably a good bet, but personally I think 3/1 is very short.Profit before people.
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if betting outrights on favs i.e brazil or argentina who are both generallys 3s and 4s.
It is best just bet on the winning group because the price seems stay the same from looking at oddschecker.
You will have an extra team to sweat such as croatia/mexico or bosnia perhaps in argentina group. Not saying they will do anything but another team in the knock outs if its there is worth taking on board. And who knows they could still be playing in the comp while your favourites are knocked out and taunted for being useless pricks.Last edited by mugsy; 07-06-14, 02:01.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostCouldn't back this with stolen. Wouldn't even have him on a comparable level to any of the legends of Brazil past yet, didn't set the world alight at Barca this season at all, if anything going on pure form he was overplayed (due to politics more than anything) as Alexis and Pedro had better seasons than him. Still lots of potential but isn't anything like the finished article yet.
Also not that it particularly has a bearing on player of the tournament odds as defenders are rarely recognized but Thiago Silva is their best player by a considerable distance.
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Originally posted by Warper View PostThat was his first season at Barca and he is playing second fiddle to Messi. His Barca performances are incomparable to what he plays like for Brazil. He was the reason they won the Confed Cup last year. He is only 22 and has scored over 30 goals for brazil already and is on an upward curve. Without him Brazil have no chance in the WC. They would cope better without Silva than without Neymar.
I agree they'd probably miss him more, only because they've genuine world class depth at centre back to replace Siva with and a little short in forward positions but Silva's still an infinitely more accomplished player.Profit before people.
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X can be anything, any number, that is what’s CRAZY about X.
Because X doesn’t roll like that, because X can’t be pinned down!
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Originally posted by Paddypender View PostArgentina to score over 6.5 goals at evens with coral. Surely a good bet given the teams they have to play and the quality goalscorers they have or am I missing something?Go big or go homeless.
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Originally posted by Paddypender View PostArgentina to score over 6.5 goals at evens with coral. Surely a good bet given the teams they have to play and the quality goalscorers they have or am I missing something?
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Originally posted by Dice75 View PostGroup.
Bosnia/Iran/Nigeria
Hard to judge to Bosnian defense in qualifying (let in 6 in 10) as its was a poor scoring Group.Go big or go homeless.
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Originally posted by mdoug View PostOh rightttt, I will not be joining that so!! Glad my withdrawal didn't come through in time . Just for groups I'd be wanting 7/5 imo. Gluck with the bet but can see them getting 5/6 here too often for me
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jesus thought it was whole tournament also. Fuck sake, just shows if something seems too good to be true it usually is!
For just the group I don't like the bet. Bosnia are a decent team and teams like Nigeria and Iran are going to make sure they don't rollover so could well play very deep and defensively.
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Originally posted by JohnOB View PostBets so far -
Uruguay to win their group @13/8
Spain outright @7/1
Player of tourney:
Pedro (Spain) @50/1
Costa (Spain) @40/1
Gotze (Ger) @33/1
Win & Top Goalscorer:
Spain/Costa @50/1
Spain/Ronaldo @100/1
Brazil/Fred @40/1
Argentina/Aguero @40/1
Group winner Accum:
Brazil, Spain, Colombia, Uruguay, France, Argentina, Germany, Belgium @50/1
Went for Fred top goalscorer @20/1 and James Rrodriguez e/w @100/1 is very decent value.
Also on Argentina now too @4/1
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ciro immobile top italy goalscorer 8/1 coral looks value. he is at 4s in some places. mario 6/4
immobile is top goalscorer last season in italy.
he is battling with mario to start and may oust him as tournament progresses.
he will get some game time and when mario is off the boil he strops and does nothing. immobile could yet be the star of the world cup.
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I backed Brazil, Spain, France & Chile to win: 50, 50, 25, 20. Laid Germany to win, and to qualify from their group (1/1.15!)
Bet on Fred, Messi, Pedro, Ronaldo & Dzeko for top scorers
Finally Betfair have a promotion where you can bet on each England match and be refunded if England lose up to €25. So I bet on the draw against Italy at 19/10. I get my money back if they lose, win if they draw and only lose the stake if they manage to win.Last edited by Hectorjelly; 10-06-14, 15:39.
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Current Bets Done........
Neymar TGS E/W (€1950)
Kerzhakov TGS E/W (€3175)
To reach Quarters - (BRA/ARG/GER/POR/ITA/SPA - €1300)
ITA/GER/RUS to win Groups & HOLL to Qualify from Group (€680)
1st Matches - BRA/MEX/SPA/CHI/COL/URU & ENG Draw (€1500)
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Is Giroud likely to be starting for France does anyone know?
Also ditto with Podolski for Germany?
Tempted by the South Korean to be Top Arsenal Scorer at 10/1 if they're not
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Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
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Is Giroud likely to be starting for France does anyone know?
Also ditto with Podolski for Germany?
Tempted by the South Korean to be Top Arsenal Scorer at 10/1 if they're not
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...nal-goalscorer
Doubt Poldi will but slightly more likely with Reus' injury.
They've been testing Gotze up front in last few friendlies so my guess for opening midfield/striker would be something like this:
--Schwein-Kroos--
Schurrle-----Ozil----- Muller
------Gotze--------Profit before people.
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only a few bets for me oddly enough
Put a fiver on a double of argentina win, drogba top scorer at 755/1 on betvictor last week(150/1 and 5/1) just to have a fun bet.
The serious ones are
Argentina win for a hefty amount
Have €150 on top scorers spread out between
€5-20 bets on all these e/w for top scorers
RVP, Drogba, Ozil, Ronaldo
€80 on messi and then €20 on neymar
Very big bet on all these to qualify at 19/10 Spain,Brazil,Belgium,Germany,Switzerland,Argentina
Couldn't have 2 from the same group so replaced brazil, argentina and spain and did this for €20 at 38/1 all to qualify
Bosnia & Herzegovina,Belgium,Germany,Holland,Ivory Coast,Italy,Croatia,SwitzerlandGo big or go homeless.
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Originally posted by TheJiggaman View PostTrying to find win/top scorer double of Brazil/Dzeko but can't on Paddy Power.
I see Bosnia/Dzeko double is only 300/1 so I'd assume that supposed to be what I want.
Anybody know?Go big or go homeless.
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Originally posted by mdoug View PostCan you link me this please, cannot find it due to incompetency I wantttttt in!
Unless I am missing something a lot more bets available in their shop coupons than online
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Originally posted by JohnOB View PostHave only done it and seen it on the actual lists in shops. Just like I cant see the top goalscorer for country on line if anyone can help link me there.
Unless I am missing something a lot more bets available in their shop coupons than online
Also to add to my earlier bets I had 1 double, treble, 4fold & 5fold available on a site I don't even remember joining but logged in as I got an email..
DoubleSPOILERGroup A Straight Forecast Brazil / Croatia 2.65 -
Group C Outrights Straight Forecast Ivory Coast / Greece 26.00 -
Bet Type Number of Bets Total Stake Possible Payout Returns
Double 1 €10.00 €679.00
TrebleSPOILERPortugal v Ireland st Half-Time/Full-Time X/1 4.00 -
Spain v Netherlands st Half-Time/Full-Time 2/1 26.00 -
Ivory Coast v Japan st Half-Time/Full-Time 1/1 4.33 -
Bet Type Number of Bets Total Stake Possible Payout Returns
Treble 1 €10.00 €4,496.67
4foldSPOILERBelgium v Algeria st Full Time Result Belgium 1.50 -
Germany v Portugal st Full Time Result Germany 2.20 -
Switzerland v Ecuador st Full Time Result Switzerland 2.50 -
Ivory Coast v Japan st Full Time Result Ivory Coast 2.62 -
Bet Type Number of Bets Total Stake Possible Payout Returns
Accumulator (4) 1 €10.00 €206.56
5foldSPOILERBrazil v Croatia st Full Time Result Brazil 1.30 -
Argentina v Bosnia & Herzegovina st Full Time Result Argentina 1.44 -
France v Honduras st Full Time Result France 1.36 -
Ivory Coast v Japan st Full Time Result Ivory Coast 2.62 -
Belgium v Algeria st Full Time Result Belgium 1.50 -
Bet Type Number of Bets Total Stake Possible Payout Returns
Accumulator (5) 1 €10.00 €90.82
Most certainly no half measures with the double or treble then I became a pansy :P. One bet on argentina top scorers in comp at 7/2 and will do the group things and then I'm done for the competition. Feeling good about this!!
edit: for those looking to waste some money on johnob's thing like I am then http://www.oddschecker.com/football/.../dual-forecast - chance it to group b etc and add you pick and then click betslip and that way you don't have to use the shocking sitesLast edited by mdoug; 10-06-14, 21:18.Go big or go homeless.
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Have Argies and Chile outright. Chile probably the most underrated team in the competition, they've been playing a very pleasing brand of football for years now but have added consistency of result over the last year and a half. Nice confidence booster of an opening game against the Aussie before they face the two Europeans. Would be fairly neg about this Dutch side in general, Chile will advance.
Have Benzema and Aguero top goalscorers. Di Maria and Pjanic as player of the tournament.
From a match betting perspective I'm negative about Holland, Uruguay, Germany and Colombia in the group stages and will be taking them on to advance as well as in matches.Profit before people.
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Added a few more bets myself last.
Small punt on No England scorer at 40/1 for the craic.
Spain to win the Fair Play Award @ 11/2 and Bosnia @ 25/1
James Rodrigues MOTM for Columbia against Greece @ 8/1
MOTM award is voted by by the viewers on FIFA.com and on Twitter this year. Voting opens at half time in each game. With the absence of Falcao, Rodrigues is the main man for Colombia. He has 2.15m Twitter followers and would be the most popular player between the 2 squads. Twitter will be hopping at the World Cup, and if he puts in a half decent performance he's sure to pick up a ton of votes. Really like 8/1 here.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostHave Argies and Chile outright. Chile probably the most underrated team in the competition, they've been playing a very pleasing brand of football for years now but have added consistency of result over the last year and a half. Nice confidence booster of an opening game against the Aussie before they face the two Europeans. Would be fairly neg about this Dutch side in general, Chile will advance.
Originally posted by Flushdraw View PostJames Rodrigues MOTM for Columbia against Greece @ 8/1
MOTM award is voted by by the viewers on FIFA.com and on Twitter this year. Voting opens at half time in each game. With the absence of Falcao, Rodrigues is the main man for Colombia. He has 2.15m Twitter followers and would be the most popular player between the 2 squads. Twitter will be hopping at the World Cup, and if he puts in a half decent performance he's sure to pick up a ton of votes. Really like 8/1 here.
Also, thought I posted yesterday, but I having a bet on Croatia to bet Brazil today too. The implied odds of getting off to a good start negates all other factors
I definitely think there's a 10% chance Brazil choke. Usually it's retarded to base bets on long term history, but there is a history of big upsets in the first games of tournaments (France-Senegal, Greece-Portugal, Spain-Chile). Also, Brazil don't have the players to suggest they can handle the immense pressure they'll be under. Looking at their squad, Marcelo, Alves and Dante (who prob won't start) are the only players to have actually played consistently well right at the top level of the game in Europe. Thiago Silva won a Serie A, but other than that, doesn't have many massive games under his belt; Neymar didn't have a great first season at Barca after so much was expected; Julio Cesar, Hulk, Fred etc aren't playing at a top standard right now. There's a lot to be desired in that Brazil, so as opposed to unattractive odds-on betting of laying them to win the Cup, I'm gona chance betting on Croatia today.
All that said, the opposite could easily happen, and they could embrace all the energy and crush too. But fuck it, I think Croatia are priced high enough it's worth a punt.
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Originally posted by The Situation View PostHave Argies and Chile outright. Chile probably the most underrated team in the competition, they've been playing a very pleasing brand of football for years now but have added consistency of result over the last year and a half. Nice confidence booster of an opening game against the Aussie before they face the two Europeans.
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