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Old 09-03-12, 18:49   #21
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I think you have to bet the turn. One of them might get stubborn with 77-TT or they've binked the J and will call two more bullets.

As played I probably fold as it's extremely unlikely no worse hand raises for value and it can't be a bluff giving the sizing. Probably a flopped monster of some kind. I wouldn't blame you for calling as you see a J here a reasonable % of the time and he's just spazzing/retarded but i'd expect to be beat here very, very often.

On another note, the hands your posting are awesome HJ. Really thought provoking and I have learned something from all of them. Keep them coming please.
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Old 09-03-12, 20:47   #22
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I assume no timing reads then? This is close because his raise was so small. I call purely because I don't think he checks back his strong hands on the turn 3 ways. If he checks back trips on the turn, he will most likely just call with them on the river as the most likely trips to check back are trips with a weak kicker and anyone checking them back there is probably overly cautious.
Anyway call. If you're not in you can't win.
I find a lot of fish will check trips to the river and then overplay them.
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Old 09-03-12, 20:49   #23
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Bet more on the river. Half pot leaves you open to stuff like this. Make it look like it could be a bluff. Bigger sizing makes it an easier bet fold too. I think you will get a lot of calls too as your line is strange in their eyes.

I call just for the cheap info. He has a few bluffs occasionally thinking you cannot have a nut type hand and aj sometimes trying to eek some value out too.
I think in the current circumstances my bet does not look that weak, and it would take a very brave villain to bluff two players here - I really just don't think this is the type of player who would ever bluff here, and if he did he wouldn't make it so tempting to call.
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Old 09-03-12, 21:00   #24
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Don't think this is ever a bluff, but is worse enough for it to be a call.
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Old 09-03-12, 21:59   #25
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I'd fold, fish very rarely ever raise a J on river here, id bet turn though. He has flopped huge most of the time with this line
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