Bad beat/Moaning/Venting thread - Mammy told me not to come.

[6starpool]

A thing called 'Day of Irish PB's'

I should sue them for intellectual property infringement!

[Solksjaer!]

I should sue them for intellectual property infringement!

I tried that with muff diving club in Donegal .

[Guest]

An article for you Laz, came across it in a newsletter I get weekly, thought you & others might enjoy: http://www.ameliabooneracing.com/blo...coveryineeded/

You probably recognise the name, she was due to compete in Barkley this year.

[Iago]

Carbonara's nearly done Dom. 'nother 3 mins.

Sure it's nearly bed time!

Mad man.

We occasionally go for dinner here around 7.30 - 8pm but it's only really an opportunity for the locals to point and stare at the weirdos that think eating dinner before 10pm is normal

[tylerdurden94]

Quick question for the BBV have an old iPhone 6 that's locked (I'm assuming) to the 3 network easiest/cheapest way to get it unlocked?

[poprock]

anyone have an idea why the EU are so intent on importing sub-standard beef from South America?

[Hectorjelly]

anyone have an idea why the EU are so intent on importing sub-standard beef from South America?

According to the IT it's only a small amount. Also any part of a trade deal is usually only a very small part in a very large negotiation. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...deal-1.3943334

According to Hitch our beef is actually very poor quality and only used by McDonalds. That's hitch tho

[ArmaniJeans]

anyone have an idea why the EU are so intent on importing sub-standard beef from South America?

Is that not a loaded question?
Presumably it won't actually be 'sub-standard' but must comply with the standards and regulations that the EU set for beef. It may be lesser beef than say Irish beef, but that doesn't make it sub standard.

As to why (and apologies if it sounds patronising) this is likely one of those trade deal things where we agree to take a certain amount of what they have to offer, and in return they agree to take some product off us.

[Raoul Duke III]

anyone have an idea why the EU are so intent on importing sub-standard beef from South America?

Big Beef got to you eh? scary dudes.

[Strewelpeter]

anyone have an idea why the EU are so intent on importing sub-standard beef from South America?

Because you gotta speculate to accumulate.

We take an amount of beef and other stuff from them and they take an amount of cars, cranes, computer software and services and whatever other shit we have to sell them.

There is a lot of interesting stuff going to come into the detail of this deal which is quite a distance from being completed. Beef industry's knee jerk down with this sort of thing is typically and predictably moronic. They need to take a good hard look at themselves and try to understand the reasons why, if they are as they say producing the best product in the world, they are not making enough money from it.
Another thing is that Europe may be able to leverage the import of beef into make it unattractive to continue cutting down hardwood forests by enforcing controls on which land the beef is produced on.

[mocata]

John Torode did a show about Argentinian beef. Showed you the grain fed cattle outside Buenos Aires then across country to show the grass fed. Grain fed didnt come out too bad quality wise if you didnt mind a cow never seeing a field. They were held in huge pens with mud and sawdust surface, troughs at the fences for feeding.

[Strewelpeter]

Quick question for the BBV have an old iPhone 6 that's locked (I'm assuming) to the 3 network easiest/cheapest way to get it unlocked?

Contact three to get an unlock code from them, webchat works fairly well.

[Solksjaer!]

Because you gotta speculate to accumulate.

We take an amount of beef and other stuff from them and they take an amount of cars, cranes, computer software and services and whatever other shit we have to sell them.

There is a lot of interesting stuff going to come into the detail of this deal which is quite a distance from being completed. Beef industry's knee jerk down with this sort of thing is typically and predictably moronic. They need to take a good hard look at themselves and try to understand the reasons why, if they are as they say producing the best product in the world, they are not making enough money from it.
Another thing is that Europe may be able to leverage the import of beef into make it unattractive to continue cutting down hardwood forests by enforcing controls on which land the beef is produced on.

Is the knee Jerky Argentinian or Irish.

[poprock]

Is that not a loaded question?
Presumably it won't actually be 'sub-standard' but must comply with the standards and regulations that the EU set for beef. It may be lesser beef than say Irish beef, but that doesn't make it sub standard.

100% a loaded question as it would appear to be, this is mainly brazilian beef we are talking about

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-07-02/jbs-brazilian-butchers-took-over-the-world

As to why (and apologies if it sounds patronising) this is likely one of those trade deal things where we agree to take a certain amount of what they have to offer, and in return they agree to take some product off us.

Not patronizing at all, I understand people do things for a reason hence the question,
I was just wondering did anyone know who was benefiting from this deal, it appears to be the germans and their car industry,

Ironically EU on the one hand talking about protecting the environment, then increases Brazil imports on beef which is destroying rain forests and using banned chemicals etc and then simultaneously selling there dirty diesel cars which they lied about their emission tests to sell in europe etc

[Denny Crane]

Because you gotta speculate to accumulate.

We take an amount of beef and other stuff from them and they take an amount of cars, cranes, computer software and services and whatever other shit we have to sell them.

There is a lot of interesting stuff going to come into the detail of this deal which is quite a distance from being completed. Beef industry's knee jerk down with this sort of thing is typically and predictably moronic. They need to take a good hard look at themselves and try to understand the reasons why, if they are as they say producing the best product in the world, they are not making enough money from it.
Another thing is that Europe may be able to leverage the import of beef into make it unattractive to continue cutting down hardwood forests by enforcing controls on which land the beef is produced on.

[Keane]

May be of interest.

Yes without getting into too much detail there are massive ongoing food safety concerns with Brazilian beef and the US and China have banned its import.

A quick google will tell ya all you need to know.

And yes it does tie into brexit.
This demonstrates that the EU is fully prepared to abandon its own standards in light of the brexit situation it is a very worrying development.
It is the throw under the bus moment.
We just did not predict it would be this bus.
And it may not be the last thing thrown under a bus.

I have to say, no, I don't think so. The Mercosur trade agreement doesn't come with any exemptions from EU product standards. It only authorises the increased importation of beef which meets EU standards, and the EU continues to police standards on the ground in Brazil. There have been problems with Brazilian beef exports to other countries, but the EU is much more active in enforcement of its product standards, and has at various time imposed blanket bans on Brazilian beef, bans on beef from specified provinces of Brazil or bans on beef other than from specified Brazilian ranches. The Mercosur deal doesn't change any of this. If there is evidnece of quality problems with Brazilian beef imported into the EU, now is the time to link to it.

Google Brazilian beef traceability for yourself .
It’s all there.

The deal clearly states that it will allow 100,000 tonnes of this beef to be sold in the EU. That’s not a claim it’s a fact.

Yes, but it doesn't say that it's allowed to be sold whether or not it complies with EU beef standards. Of course, it doesn't allow that.

I take the point you make about traceability. But, remember, traceability isn't about protecting the consumer; it's largely for the benefit of producers. It's about locating problems in the beef production chain so that (a) producers who aren't at fault aren't penalised, and (b) problems can be tackled and eliminated.

If, as you say, in some areas of Brazil farm boundaries are non-existent, then traceability to an individual farm would be pointless at best; misleading at worst. Would the EU ban beef from an entire country, or a province, or a particular plant, if they couldn't identify the farm at fault? Of course they would; they have done that in the past. Frequently. They don't wait for even "1 or 2 deaths" either.

And this wouldn't "jeopardise the entire FTA", since there is no provision in the FTA which allows the import of substandard beef, so such a measure would not breach the FTA. While it might obviously piss off the farmers affected by the ban, particularly those who consider that they themselves are not responsible for the problem, it would please other farmers within the Mercosur area, since (unless affected by a similar ban due to problems in the production chain of which they are part) they would remain free to sell to the EU, and the quota would be available to them.

These issues arise with or without the Mercosur trade deal. The EU is not self-sufficient in beef, and the excess of consumption over production is projected to grow. So there will be more and more imports, if not from Mercosur countries then from non-Mercosur countries. The quality standards, and the challenge of enforcing them, arise in either case. Arguably, the security of having a quota for export to the EU gives the Mercosur beef producers an incentive to invest in quality assurance systems so that they can be confident of being able to take advantage of the quota.

[coillcam]

Quick question for the BBV have an old iPhone 6 that's locked (I'm assuming) to the 3 network easiest/cheapest way to get it unlocked?

Easiest and cheapest way is to get the owner of the device to request an unlock from Three which should be free. Its 100% beyond being tied to a contract as its an old handset so there shouldn't be any reason for three to refuse unless the contract was never paid off or the iphone was stolen -> https://www.three.ie/unlock-my-phone/

If you want to pay for the service should three not play ball, its going to about €100 from an ebay seller with decent feedback but YMMV.

[Raoul Duke III]

Sunday: Wimbledon Mens Final for the 5 set thriller between Federer and Djok. Major sporting bucket list item checked off the list.

How did you score that? (he asked jealously)

[Strewelpeter]

just catching my breath after an epic weekend in London...

Friday: Dinner in Bentleys before decamping to Queens Theatre to see Les Miserables. Cracking show.

Saturday: Florence & The Machine and The National at BST Hyde Park.

Sunday: Wimbledon Mens Final for the 5 set thriller between Federer and Djok. Major sporting bucket list item checked off the list.

As shameless brags go that's a quality one

[Lazare]

An article for you Laz, came across it in a newsletter I get weekly, thought you & others might enjoy: http://www.ameliabooneracing.com/blo...coveryineeded/

You probably recognise the name, she was due to compete in Barkley this year.

Very good article. I wasn't familiar with her.

[Emmet]

By the way, I'd 100% recommend a day out at Lords. Completely different to any other stadium experience you can have. The word ramshackle is probably appropriate.

You can bring in one bottle of wine per person. When that's drunk, simply exit the ground for 5 mins and get another. If you get a good relay going with your fellow spectators, you can have a constant supply of nicely chilled white on tap. With cheese of course.

Are you doing the Friday of Ireland v England?

[Raoul Duke III]

Are you doing the Friday of Ireland v England?

no, I'll be in France

[tylerdurden94]

Contact three to get an unlock code from them, webchat works fairly well.

I contacted 3 on Twitter and they sent me a link to get it unlocked.

Easiest and cheapest way is to get the owner of the device to request an unlock from Three which should be free. Its 100% beyond being tied to a contract as its an old handset so there shouldn't be any reason for three to refuse unless the contract was never paid off or the iphone was stolen -> https://www.three.ie/unlock-my-phone/

If you want to pay for the service should three not play ball, its going to about €100 from an ebay seller with decent feedback but YMMV.

Per above it shouldn't be a problem hopefully, wouldn't be dropping money to get it unlocked at that price as it's probably only worth about €120

[hotspur]

I'm writing up a report and I can't for the life me remember when there is missing data on gender how to report the percentages. Let's say 22 participants, 2 missing data on gender, 15 females and 5 males. Do I give the figures as N = 22, 15 females (75%), 5 males (25%), 2 missing data? Or 15 females (68%), 5 males (23%), 2 missing data (9%).

It has to be the first one, but it feels strange to me (I am very, very tired).

[Raoul Duke III]

I'm writing up a report and I can't for the life me remember when there is missing data on gender how to report the percentages. Let's say 22 participants, 2 missing data on gender, 15 females and 5 males. Do I give the figures as N = 22, 15 females (75%), 5 males (25%), 2 missing data? Or 15 females (68%), 5 males (23%), 2 missing data (9%).

It has to be the first one, but it feels strange to me (I am very, very tired).

Reporting by gender seems antediluvian hotspur. Aren't we all gender fluid these days?

[hotspur]

Reporting by gender seems antediluvian hotspur. Aren't we all gender fluid these days?

I had to Google that word. I smiled yesterday at your mentioning one being accosted by trees in Clontarf. The smile was a fond memory of a friend many, many years ago telling me he had been accosted by a tree. I loved that.

[Raoul Duke III]

I had to Google that word. I smiled yesterday at your mentioning one being accosted by trees in Clontarf. The smile was a fond memory of a friend many, many years ago telling me he had been accosted by a tree. I loved that.

Glad to trigger a smile, all part of the service.

[oleras]

According to Hitch our beef is actually very poor quality and only used by McDonalds. That's hitch tho

My dinner disagrees, SuperValu rib eyes, €18 for the 3 of these. They had 33%off.





Indirect for around 20 mins, then seared them.

[Solksjaer!]

Was gonna put this in music king but couldn't bear the apparent buffs cutting it up. Great voice great cover .

https://youtu.be/N8uk9Ql8J-A

[Lazare]

Welcome back Ole

[mdoug]

What's a good spot for a nice value wedding suit in town?

Don't want to go too overboard as I already have a nice one, but have 3 weddings in very short succession so will buy a 2nd(crappier one) for the wedding that's taking place outdoors on a farm .

[Solksjaer!]

One for Raoul -> Psithurism

[balfejohn]

What's a good spot for a nice value wedding suit in town?

Don't want to go too overboard as I already have a nice one, but have 3 weddings in very short succession so will buy a 2nd(crappier one) for the wedding that's taking place outdoors on a farm .

Moss bros Dundrum
Middle of the road range at good price point

[Raoul Duke III]

One for Raoul -> Psithurism

Psy the hoor?

Wasn't he the gangnam fella?

[Hitchhiker's Guide To...]

...

[DeadParrot]

Time to stock up on a reliable VPN if you want to stream Premier League starting next month. PureVPN is great, from the range of them I've used.

Although maybe the most technically and pirately minded of you (DP obv) will be able to confirm that a VPN will work with this type of blocking.

Its a common thing in the UK and will only get more common here

[Guest]

Time to stock up on a reliable VPN if you want to stream Premier League starting next month. PureVPN is great, from the range of them I've used.

Although maybe the most technically and pirately minded of you (DP obv) will be able to confirm that a VPN will work with this type of blocking.

It’s a great step , hopefully VPNs won’t work.
Illegal streaming eroded the fabric of our society, there are now reasonable options (now tv) to pay for sport so if you continue with illegal streaming you are no better than Ronan ryan and Pamela flood not paying their mortgage for 9 years and refusing to move out of house

[Raoul Duke III]

Excellent work PSV.

[hotspur]

It’s a great step , hopefully VPNs won’t work.
Illegal streaming eroded the fabric of our society, there are now reasonable options (now tv) to pay for sport so if you continue with illegal streaming you are no better than Ronan ryan and Pamela flood not paying their mortgage for 9 years and refusing to move out of house

I watch every Tottenham match, mostly live, it is not legally possible to do that.

[Solksjaer!]

I watch every Tottenham match, mostly live, it is not legally possible to do that.

Every match ? Now there's a mental challenge.
You must be a mindfulness black belt .

[Solksjaer!]

Psy the hoor?

Wasn't he the gangnam fella?

I want out Ted.

[newbie2]

I pay for both sky and BT/eir/premier. But have to watch streams of Arsenal getting beaten every week using mobdro or some such because the team I want to watch isn't on those extortionately priced packages.

And I'll endeavour to do so going forward.

[Denny Crane]

Gonna close this round of music king at 12 today.

[Guest]

I watch every Tottenham match, mostly live, it is not legally possible to do that.

I pay for both sky and BT/eir/premier. But have to watch streams of Arsenal getting beaten every week using mobdro or some such because the team I want to watch isn't on those extortionately priced packages.

And I'll endeavour to do so going forward.

Ye could both be real fans and make the cheap and short trip over to London for the home games, ye could even travel together for the North London derby.
Live sport isn’t a human right, there’s always match of the day, I also find listening on the radio nearly better as you can potter about doing other things.
Or ye could just keep leeching of the hard work of others. Sky employees just putting food on the table for their families like everyone else

[hotspur]

I was listening to a New Yorker podcast interview with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez during breakfast this morning. Didn't hear anything which impressed me or made me think she will be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

[hotspur]

Ye could both be real fans and make the cheap and short trip over to London for the home games, ye could even travel together for the North London derby.
Live sport isn’t a human right, there’s always match of the day, I also find listening on the radio nearly better as you can potter about doing other things.
Or ye could just keep leeching of the hard work of others. Sky employees just putting food on the table for their families like everyone else

Can ye give a cogent ethical argument about what is morally wrong about watching a match online broadcast from America when you already pay for broadcasting?

[newbie2]

Can ye give a cogent ethical argument about what is morally wrong about watching a match online broadcast from America when you already pay for broadcasting?

Bro, you actually bit???

[Guest]

Can ye give a cogent ethical argument about what is morally wrong about watching a match online broadcast from America when you already pay for broadcasting?

Let’s say I go to cousellor x for some counseling. Would me paying him make it Ok to book an hour with you then leg it without paying because I already pay for counseling ?

[Guest]

I was listening to a New Yorker podcast interview with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez during breakfast this morning. Didn't hear anything which impressed me or made me think she will be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

She's not particularly impressive, not yet at least, it's been highlighted on both sides of the aisle that she has glaring flaws from a political perspective.

Nevertheless she has the support of many in the party because she has the capacity to reach a demographic. I'd have no doubts she has the capacity to be a candidate in the not too distant future though.

This is just essentially training for her, generate a base without too much political influence, put her as the face of the green new deal, allow her ample time questioning ICE in congress etc and then support her push in 2028 if the situation presents itself.

[Raoul Duke III]

She's not particularly impressive, not yet at least, it's been highlighted on both sides of the aisle that she has glaring flaws from a political perspective.

Nevertheless she has the support of many in the party because she has the capacity to reach a demographic. I'd have no doubts she has the capacity to be a candidate in the not too distant future though.

This is just essentially training for her, generate a base without too much political influence, put her as the face of the green new deal, allow her ample time questioning ICE in congress etc and then support her push in 2028 if the situation presents itself.

Probably more chance of Ivanka being prez in 2028 than yer wan.

[Raoul Duke III]

Excellent word Solks. I do enjoy a spot of psithurism as I am being accosted by the verdant verdure.

[newbie2]

This is just essentially training for her, generate a base without too much political influence, put her as the face of the green new deal, allow her ample time questioning ICE in congress etc and then support her push in 2028 if the situation presents itself.

I think she's been trained up to be sanders replacement. Don't think she'll get a run at the WH but she probably ticks a lot of boxes for the more red leaning dems

[Raoul Duke III]

I think she's been trained up to be sanders replacement. Don't think she'll get a run at the WH but she probably ticks a lot of boxes for the more red leaning dems

Red = republican.

Did you mean something else? Also; Sanders is a one man band. It'd be like saying 'X is being trained up as Shane Ross's replacement'.

(which is a horrible thought)

[Denny Crane]

She just does well on twitter, not in the real world.

[The Situation]

Level of competency probably isnt even a top 5 consideration for what makes an electable candidate in modern politics.

[Solksjaer!]

An article for you Laz, came across it in a newsletter I get weekly, thought you & others might enjoy: http://www.ameliabooneracing.com/blo...coveryineeded/

You probably recognise the name, she was due to compete in Barkley this year.

What's the newsletter ?

[Guest]

Can ye give a cogent ethical argument about what is morally wrong about watching a match online broadcast from America when you already pay for broadcasting?

Actually thinking about this a bit more, I guess if already playing for sport but the market is not making available a particular match it would be ok to stream it (eg spurs game that none of the providers here are showing. I’d be holding my nose and mentioning it in confession/to my counselor but it’s not the worst.
Illegally Streaming the likes of Liverpool v utd, golf majors,boxing just makes you a freeloading parasite though

[Guest]

I suppose you need someone to generate the adequate amount of uproar on one side.
Perhaps she will turn out to be quite good but she obviously has zero chance of achieving anything if she is helping block the likes of Amazon HQ2 in NY.

What's the newsletter ?

It's not a sport newsletter, just general knowledge stuff, that article just popped up, decent podcast too though: https://fs.blog/newsletter/
I think Denny might listen too.

[Keane]

I only watch GAA on Sky, and the GAA and Sky can bite the back of my sack.

[Solksjaer!]

I suppose you need someone to generate the adequate amount of uproar on one side.
Perhaps she will turn out to be quite good but she obviously has zero chance of achieving anything if she is helping block the likes of Amazon HQ2 in NY.



It's not a sport newsletter, just general knowledge stuff, that article just popped up, decent podcast too though: https://fs.blog/newsletter/
I think Denny might listen too.

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