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Old 14-09-18, 14:52   #41401
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I always distrust the use of fancy general use terms (moral equivalency) rather than actual arguments in an argument <- I term this distrust Zod Equivalency.
Can't wait for the "play the ball, not the man" honking to reply to this.
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Old 14-09-18, 14:56   #41402
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Could hardly be any worse than having Solks dragging the area down tbf
but I'm not as bad as my sister who lives right next door to him.
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Old 14-09-18, 14:59   #41403
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Old 14-09-18, 15:19   #41404
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making a list of things i want sent from home so far ive got

chicken/oxtail cup of soups
mega meanies
monster munch
waffles
tea bags
club milks
hunky dorys buffalo
rich tea biscuits
pot noodles

what am i missing that can be sent through the post ? im sure im missing lots of stuff king/tayto prob obv but not fussed about them.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:23   #41405
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Eoghan Murphy spent more time trying to "sweat down" the apartment standards to make it more profitable for builders to build than actually getting anything built. He has said that any state lands used for housing developments must be 40% affordable housing, Why only 40% if this is state land? Why not 100%

FFS I'd rather have the chinese come in and Belt and Road us up a few towns with subway connectivity before eoghan Murphy selling off our land for the enrichment of private individuals.

What's more, he thinks 320k is "affordable".
You're not spotting any inherent flaws between wanting every apartment to be the best possible apartment and then complaining about costs of apartments?
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Old 14-09-18, 15:37   #41406
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making a list of things i want sent from home so far ive got

chicken/oxtail cup of soups
mega meanies
monster munch
waffles
tea bags
club milks
hunky dorys buffalo
rich tea biscuits
pot noodles

what am i missing that can be sent through the post ? im sure im missing lots of stuff king/tayto prob obv but not fussed about them.

Save space for other stuff and order from https://barrysteashop.ie/ if you're a tea drinker.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:39   #41407
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making a list of things i want sent from home so far ive got

chicken/oxtail cup of soups
mega meanies
monster munch
waffles
tea bags
club milks
hunky dorys buffalo
rich tea biscuits
pot noodles

what am i missing that can be sent through the post ? im sure im missing lots of stuff king/tayto prob obv but not fussed about them.
A bucket of apples.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:45   #41408
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Save space for other stuff and order from https://barrysteashop.ie/ if you're a tea drinker.
i have no idea what other stuff my mind is blank and googling hasnt really helped at all
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Old 14-09-18, 15:49   #41409
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i have no idea what other stuff my mind is blank and googling hasnt really helped at all
20 Major/JPB missing from that typical expat list.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:52   #41410
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Random thought about the housing/planning etc conversation that has been going on...

I just saw where this rugby museum thing JP is trying to build in Limerick has been waiting for An Bord Pleanala to make a decision on it for a year, and they are not going to meet their own deadline for the decision due to a backlog of cases.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/h...by-museum.html

I'm ambivalent about the project but they're talking about ploughing 10 million quid into developing a site in Limerick city centre and they can't get an answer back on whether they are allowed to build it or not. We also had a complete debacle with that Apple data centre in Athenry stuck in planning hell for so long they just gave up on it.

What is actually the problem here, as in why does it take so long to get given or refused planning? Surely it couldn't cost too much money to say double or triple the number of people who make these decisions etc?
ABP say the problem is they are significantly understaffed at the minute and they have recently been landed with additional responsibilities suvh as strategic housing development aswell. Nothing large scale gets decided within the 18 week window anymore, we tell our clients that it'll be a min of 6 months. To be a board inspector you need a min of 5 years planning so not a lot of those types floating about. I don't think I'd like to work in their or a council.

We may be currently working on a data centre which may have received an objection from mr apple objector sadly nothing to stop yhis happening in the current system
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Old 14-09-18, 15:52   #41411
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20 Major/JPB missing from that typical expat list.
haha, i guess it is typical but i think those are things i prob get a craving for the most, nothing like a cup of oxtail soup and bread and butter right before bed.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:53   #41412
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We are nowhere near to becoming a Venezuela and never will be. Also, the use of the word seizing is over dramatic. I'm sure that you are aware that the people occupying these buildings are not looking to keep them and live in them for free. They are occupying them on a temporary basis as a means to highlight the issue. Real politics has has done jack shit for the people most in need over the past decade.
Describing the illegal occupation of someone else's property as seizing is over dramatic? What alternative facts are you presenting Chairman Lao?

Ah sure the lads were only having a laugh and temporarily denying access to other peoples vacant property because they are working for a noble cause like...

I think the Venezuelan government used the same argument with Smurfit Kappa in Venezuela, where the staff were happy to stay coming to work merely because there was affordable food in the canteen.



I'm just poking a bit of fun at Brian above.

My post was actually about the promotion of the idea that the state should in some way compel the owners of vacant sites to use them in a certain way or hand them over. The details of the current protesters and their methods are just noise and distraction. I agree with the idea of a vacancy tax and a compulsion to maintain property and a significant increase in property taxes to encourage downsizing and to dampen down the urban property markets.

BUT if the state wants to acquire properties let them pay for them, any other approach is dangerous fantasy.

Of course that will distort the market for the people trying to look after themselves. Therefore the state has to address the supply side for both the homeless folk and the regular working people trying to put a roof over their own heads.

This takes time, planning and a broader housing solution. Could it be done quicker? Yes. Are there any votes in working to reduce planning delays and/or addressing bottlenecks in the system? Currently No, because the people concerned about the homeless don't seem to vote for parties/individuals who are making sensible incremental progress but the advocates of simple to chant solutions...It's depressing really as there are so many poverty traps and stupid dead ends being promoted at present that merely treat the symptoms but won't cure the patient.

By the way the economy is going very well, unemployment has fallen significantly and we still can't balance the books. We have the highest level of debt per capita in the EU and Brexit is around the corner. We have a rollercoaster of boom and bust ahead of us for years to come because we continue to repeat the same mistakes. Wait until interest rates rise and our biggest export market is in a recession....
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Old 14-09-18, 15:54   #41413
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You're not spotting any inherent flaws between wanting every apartment to be the best possible apartment and then complaining about costs of apartments?
Land costs are the biggest issue for private developers. The State has land, thus removing the costs on this. There is absolutely no reason with that in mind that affordable properties should be 320k. It's almost arbitrarily set at that to ensure a higher cost for the other 60% of developments.
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the building had sat idle for 5 years prior.
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Old 14-09-18, 15:57   #41415
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i have no idea what other stuff my mind is blank and googling hasnt really helped at all
I order tea by times but found a place here that does Yorkshire tea which is close enough. Not too much stuff I miss other than that, tesco garlic mayo maybe.
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Old 14-09-18, 16:02   #41416
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I order tea by times but found a place here that does Yorkshire tea which is close enough. Not too much stuff I miss other than that, tesco garlic mayo maybe.
yeah tea is def the big one, they have english breakfast tea here that just isnt close to anything from home at all. the other stuff i could live without but will still get some sent over.
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Old 14-09-18, 16:13   #41417
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making a list of things i want sent from home so far ive got

chicken/oxtail cup of soups
mega meanies
monster munch
waffles
tea bags
club milks
hunky dorys buffalo
rich tea biscuits
pot noodles

what am i missing that can be sent through the post ? im sure im missing lots of stuff king/tayto prob obv but not fussed about them.
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Old 14-09-18, 16:13   #41418
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ABP say the problem is they are significantly understaffed at the minute and they have recently been landed with additional responsibilities suvh as strategic housing development aswell. Nothing large scale gets decided within the 18 week window anymore, we tell our clients that it'll be a min of 6 months. To be a board inspector you need a min of 5 years planning so not a lot of those types floating about. I don't think I'd like to work in their or a council.

We may be currently working on a data centre which may have received an objection from mr apple objector sadly nothing to stop yhis happening in the current system
It seems like training up and/or hiring a shitload of people for ABP would be the ultimate bang for buck measure!
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Old 14-09-18, 16:14   #41419
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yeah tea is def the big one, they have english breakfast tea here that just isnt close to anything from home at all. the other stuff i could live without but will still get some sent over.
Decent sausages! Shipping them is obv not viable but man.... there is a massive gap in the market here for a decent sausage.
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Old 14-09-18, 16:20   #41420
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Decent sausages! Shipping them is obv not viable but man.... there is a massive gap in the market here for a decent sausage.
100% pudding and bacon also here is severely lacking, sausage's are closer to bratwurst or something, the bacon usually just comes in one big lump and have to cut it yourself but its not the same
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