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    7days $26 DS FTP Log

    Hi all,

    It's about time I got some focus. I've ran bad but know that I've been doing an awful amount of donking on Full Tilt so I feel the need to do something to snap out of it, hopefully this thread will help me focus and I can learn a lot from it.

    I'll post updates over the days, br and HHs prob. I haven't selected any specific days yet as I won't want to be playing everyday but will most likely start today, 25th, and finish up next Wed 2nd, taking Sat and Sunday off. My plans may change but I don't think it will take more than 2 weeks to get 7 nights free for FTP.

    My br is currently $482.09 and it will be the max used for this because I'll probably give up on FTP for a while if I go busto. I know 18.5 buy-ins isn't a lot to cope with the variance of the games I'll be playing but if the cards fall good I don't see it being a massive problem. I thought about setting a money target but it might affect my play which is the opposite of what I want to gain from this.

    All games have double gtds on FTP this week with a multi-buy-in option so my current plan is to play 3 tournaments per day with 2 buy-ins per tournament. Obv this thread could be over in 3 days but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

    The mtts that I'll most likely play are all NLHE DS $26k: (prizepools will half after promo)
    ~5pm 39k
    ~7pm 84k
    ~8pm 66k (KO $4 bounties)

    All and any thoughts/input appreciated throughout the thread. I would like to get as much feedback as possible through doing this and might learn how to make a video of one of the sessions to expose leaks and get max feedback.

    Hoping for a bit of run good,

    Caf.

    #2
    You know my thoughts so all I'll say here is GLGL and keep us updated
    Pining for Wa'erford

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      #3
      Good luck with this Caf....run good!

      And...just read sligboi's tagline.....v good!

      Comment


        #4
        Ready to go in a few. Regged for the 3 games and double entries, I'll try keep it updated as I go but will hopefully be too busy to update until later tonight.


        Does anyone remember who made a good post a while back about how to make a video? Could you post the link or even who it was so I can PM them please and thanks. I've tried making one before with no success and would like to do one for the last session(or maybe even the third session depending on how the first two go!).

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          #5
          Its in the "study group" section under Tutorials.

          BrianByrne made it.

          If you can't remember password pm me

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            #6
            Originally posted by Emmet View Post
            Its in the "study group" section under Tutorials.

            BrianByrne made it.

            If you can't remember password pm me
            Sound Emmet, I'll get back to it after playing. Thanks.

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              #7
              GL Caf will be interesting to follow.

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                #8
                Good luck Caf. Run good.

                Comment


                  #9
                  A not so run good hour. I just went out of one in the hand before the first break. Prob donked but haven't had a chance to work it out yet as I would prob do the same against the same villain every time, this could be a big leak however.

                  On 2k in the other(1/2 Avg).

                  Here are some hands that went down:

                  First two hands I played, one from each table:
                  SPOILER

                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  SB (t3000)
                  BB (t3000)
                  UTG (t3000)
                  UTG+1 (t3000)
                  MP1 (t3000)
                  MP2 (t3000)
                  Hero (MP3) (t3000)
                  CO (t3000)

                  Hero's M: 100.00

                  Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3, A
                  4 folds, Hero bets t60, 2 folds, BB calls t40

                  Flop: (t130) 9, 2, A (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero checks

                  Turn: (t130) 3 (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero bets t120, 1 fold

                  Total pot: t130

                  Results:
                  Hero didn't show 3, A.
                  Outcome: Hero won t130


                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  UTG+1 (t2930)
                  MP1 (t2970)
                  MP2 (t2960)
                  MP3 (t3040)
                  CO (t2970)
                  Hero (Button) (t2970)
                  SB (t2980)
                  BB (t3000)
                  UTG (t3180)

                  Hero's M: 99.00

                  Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
                  UTG bets t70, 5 folds, Hero calls t70, 2 folds

                  Flop: (t170) 10, A, 4 (2 players)
                  UTG bets t120, Hero folds

                  Total pot: t170

                  Results:
                  UTG didn't show
                  Outcome: UTG won t170



                  SPOILER
                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  MP1 (t2910)
                  MP2 (t2890)
                  MP3 (t3090)
                  CO (t2980)
                  Button (t3080)
                  SB (t2980)
                  Hero (BB) (t3070)
                  UTG (t3000)
                  UTG+1 (t3000)

                  Hero's M: 102.33

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
                  5 folds, CO bets t60, Button calls t60, 1 fold, Hero calls t40

                  Flop: (t190) 4, 8, 5 (3 players)
                  Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets t100, Hero calls t100, 1 fold

                  Turn: (t390) 6 (2 players)
                  Hero checks, Button checks

                  River: (t390) 3 (2 players)
                  Hero bets t200, 1 fold

                  Total pot: t390

                  Results:
                  Hero didn't show J, J (nothing).
                  Outcome: Hero won t390


                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  UTG+1 (t2910)
                  MP1 (t2890)
                  MP2 (t3090)
                  MP3 (t2920)
                  CO (t2920)
                  Button (t2970)
                  Hero (SB) (t3300)
                  BB (t3000)
                  UTG (t3000)

                  Hero's M: 110.00

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K
                  3 folds, MP2 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero calls t10, BB checks

                  Flop: (t60) K, 8, A (3 players)
                  Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks

                  Turn: (t60) Q (3 players)
                  Hero bets t40, BB calls t40, 1 fold

                  River: (t140) J (2 players)
                  Hero checks, BB bets t140, Hero calls t140

                  Total pot: t420

                  Results:
                  Hero had Q, K (two pair, Kings and Queens).
                  BB had 10, K (straight, Ace high).
                  Outcome: BB won t420


                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  UTG (t3390)
                  UTG+1 (t2955)
                  MP1 (t3035)
                  MP2 (t2470)
                  MP3 (t3060)
                  Hero (Button) (t2920)
                  SB (t3170)
                  BB (t3000)

                  Hero's M: 48.67

                  Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 9
                  5 folds, Hero bets t120, 1 fold, BB calls t80

                  Flop: (t260) J, 9, 10 (2 players)
                  BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

                  Turn: (t420) 2 (2 players)
                  BB bets t120, Hero calls t120

                  River: (t660) K (2 players)
                  BB bets t380, Hero folds

                  Total pot: t660

                  Results:
                  BB didn't show
                  Outcome: BB won t660


                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  UTG (t2530)
                  UTG+1 (t2575)
                  MP1 (t5695)
                  MP2 (t1725)
                  MP3 (t3340)
                  Hero (CO) (t2540)
                  Button (t3265)
                  SB (t4125)
                  BB (t4205)

                  Hero's M: 33.87

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 8
                  4 folds, MP3 bets t125, Hero calls t125, 3 folds

                  Flop: (t325) 4, J, A (2 players)
                  MP3 bets t230, Hero folds

                  Total pot: t325

                  Results:
                  MP3 didn't show
                  Outcome: MP3 won t325


                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  MP1 (t8366)
                  MP2 (t2655)
                  MP3 (t2735)
                  CO (t3000)
                  Button (t5585)
                  SB (t2686)
                  Hero (BB) (t2495)
                  UTG (t5643)
                  UTG+1 (t2835)

                  Hero's M: 27.72

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 5
                  7 folds, SB calls t30, Hero checks

                  Flop: (t120) 8, J, 7 (2 players)
                  SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

                  Turn: (t360) K (2 players)
                  SB checks, Hero checks

                  River: (t360) 9 (2 players)
                  SB bets t60, Hero calls t60

                  Total pot: t480

                  Results:
                  SB had 7, 10 (straight, Jack high).
                  Hero had J, 5 (one pair, Jacks).
                  Outcome: SB won t480


                  Exit hand:
                  SPOILER

                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                  saw flop | saw showdown

                  MP2 (t7876)
                  MP3 (t2535)
                  CO (t2615)
                  Button (t3000)
                  BB (t2901)
                  Hero (UTG) (t2225)
                  UTG+1 (t6113)
                  MP1 (t3105)

                  Hero's M: 18.54

                  Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A
                  6 folds, BB bets t240, Hero raises to t2225 (All-In), BB calls t1985

                  Flop: (t4450) 7, K, 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                  Turn: (t4450) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                  River: (t4450) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                  Total pot: t4450

                  Results:
                  BB had 10, K (two pair, Kings and tens).
                  Hero had Q, A (one pair, sevens).
                  Outcome: BB won t4450


                  Obv haven't had a chance to think about the hands yet so will be back later with thought process/explanations/questions on each hand.

                  Anyone has any thoughts before then by all means post away.

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                    #10
                    No joy in either of the first two.

                    SPOILER
                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                    saw flop | saw showdown

                    UTG+1 (t1810)
                    MP1 (t3765)
                    MP2 (t6270)
                    MP3 (t2700)
                    CO (t5951)
                    Hero (Button) (t2155)
                    SB (t2905)
                    BB (t3483)
                    UTG (t4865)

                    Hero's M: 11.97

                    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
                    2 folds, MP1 calls t120, 2 folds, CO bets t240, Hero raises to t2155 (All-In), 4 folds

                    Total pot: t780

                    Results:
                    Hero didn't show 8, 8.
                    Outcome: Hero won t780

                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                    saw flop | saw showdown

                    BB (t3060)
                    UTG (t3265)
                    UTG+1 (t5580)
                    MP1 (t15935)
                    MP2 (t9491)
                    Hero (MP3) (t2695)
                    CO (t2605)
                    Button (t3023)
                    SB (t4665)

                    Hero's M: 8.98

                    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 10, A
                    UTG calls t200, 3 folds, Hero bets t2695 (All-In), 3 folds, BB raises to t3060 (All-In), 1 fold

                    Flop: (t5690) J, 3, 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                    Turn: (t5690) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                    River: (t5690) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                    Total pot: t5690

                    Results:
                    BB had J, J (three of a kind, Jacks).
                    Hero had 10, A (one pair, tens).
                    Outcome: BB won t5690


                    Quick break I guess, be back with more later. And will sum up all hands at the end of the night.
                    Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 01:17.

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                      #11
                      Well there ya go I guess. Another one bites the dust. Still on SS in t'other. I'll prob be looking for thoughts on this one later since we're deepish and there was a good bit of action:


                      SPOILER
                      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                      saw flop | saw showdown

                      Button (t4105)
                      SB (t2850)
                      Hero (BB) (t2920)
                      UTG (t2910)
                      UTG+1 (t2940)
                      MP1 (t2580)
                      MP2 (t5425)
                      CO (t3270)

                      Hero's M: 64.89

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, J
                      3 folds, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, 2 folds, Hero checks

                      Flop: (t105) J, Q, 4 (3 players)
                      Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets t30, Hero raises to t180, 1 fold, CO raises to t360, Hero calls t180

                      Turn: (t825) 2 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets t180, Hero raises to t2530 (All-In), CO calls t2350

                      River: (t5885) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

                      Total pot: t5885

                      Results:
                      Hero had 4, J (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
                      CO had J, Q (full house, Queens over Jacks).
                      Outcome: CO won t5885



                      Maybe it played itself, not sure tbh.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        A better few hands but not a good call on river by me in last hand before break. I hate the call but it's v close against this guy imo.


                        SPOILER
                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                        saw flop | saw showdown

                        Hero (BB) (t2785)
                        UTG (t6275)
                        UTG+1 (t1695)
                        MP2 (t2995)
                        MP3 (t9785)
                        CO (t2925)
                        Button (t2630)

                        Hero's M: 37.13

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
                        2 folds, MP3 calls t50, 2 folds, Hero bets t250, UTG calls t200, 1 fold

                        Flop: (t550) 6, 2, 5 (2 players)
                        Hero bets t300, UTG raises to t6025 (All-In), Hero calls t2235 (All-In)

                        Turn: (t5620) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                        River: (t5620) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                        Total pot: t5620

                        Results:
                        Hero had J, J (two pair, Jacks and sixes).
                        UTG had 4, 4 (two pair, sixes and fours).
                        Outcome: Hero won t5620

                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                        saw flop | saw showdown

                        MP2 (t2960)
                        Hero (CO) (t5620)
                        Button (t3465)
                        SB (t2950)
                        BB (t3495)
                        UTG (t9735)
                        UTG+1 (t2925)
                        MP1 (t2205)

                        Hero's M: 74.93

                        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, A
                        UTG bets t250, 3 folds, Hero calls t250, 3 folds

                        Flop: (t575) A, Q, 6 (2 players)
                        UTG bets t950, Hero raises to t2100, UTG raises to t9485 (All-In), Hero calls t3270 (All-In)

                        Turn: (t11315) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

                        River: (t11315) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                        Total pot: t11315

                        Results:
                        UTG had A, K (three of a kind, Aces).
                        Hero had Q, A (full house, Aces over Queens).
                        Outcome: Hero won t11315


                        Hero's M: 92.62

                        Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
                        1 fold, UTG+1 bets t166, 4 folds, Hero calls t126, BB calls t86

                        Flop: (t498) A, 10, 7 (3 players)
                        Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t333, Hero calls t333, 1 fold

                        Turn: (t1164) K (2 players)
                        Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t666, Hero calls t666

                        River: (t2496) 8 (2 players)
                        Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t1111, Hero calls t1111

                        Total pot: t4718

                        Results:
                        Hero had A, J (one pair, Aces).
                        UTG+1 had Q, J (straight, Ace high).
                        Outcome: UTG+1 won t4718


                        meh, another couple starting now.
                        Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 01:26.

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                          #13
                          gl with this caf
                          48

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Still going in the 84k(668/2371 atm) and the two KOs but not a great start in either, a few hands:


                            SPOILER
                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            MP3 (t2990)
                            CO (t2620)
                            Button (t3110)
                            SB (t2980)
                            BB (t3400)
                            UTG (t3000)
                            UTG+1 (t3000)
                            Hero (MP1) (t3000)
                            MP2 (t2900)

                            Hero's M: 100.00

                            Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, K
                            UTG calls t20, 1 fold, Hero bets t80, 6 folds, UTG calls t60

                            Flop: (t190) J, A, 9 (2 players)
                            UTG checks, Hero bets t120, UTG calls t120

                            Turn: (t430) 7 (2 players)
                            UTG checks, Hero checks

                            River: (t430) 5 (2 players)
                            UTG bets t250, Hero calls t250

                            Total pot: t930

                            Results:
                            UTG had 8, 10 (straight, Jack high).
                            Hero had A, K (one pair, Aces).
                            Outcome: UTG won t930

                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            MP1 (t2160)
                            Hero (MP2) (t8159)
                            MP3 (t6914)
                            CO (t10580)
                            Button (t1364)
                            SB (t2750)
                            BB (t6550)
                            UTG (t4490)
                            UTG+1 (t2098)

                            Hero's M: 45.33

                            Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 10, 10
                            UTG bets t420, 2 folds, Hero calls t420, 5 folds

                            Flop: (t1020) 7, 6, K (2 players)
                            UTG checks, Hero checks

                            Turn: (t1020) 9 (2 players)
                            UTG bets t720, Hero calls t720

                            River: (t2460) 2 (2 players)
                            UTG checks, Hero checks

                            Total pot: t2460

                            Results:
                            UTG had J, A (high card, Ace).
                            Hero had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
                            Outcome: Hero won t2460

                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            UTG+1 (t2625)
                            MP1 (t3305)
                            MP2 (t2635)
                            MP3 (t3340)
                            CO (t2805)
                            Button (t4775)
                            SB (t2950)
                            BB (t4230)
                            Hero (UTG) (t3025)

                            Hero's M: 40.33

                            Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, J
                            Hero bets t150, 1 fold, MP1 calls t150, 6 folds

                            Flop: (t375) 9, 6, Q (2 players)
                            Hero bets t200, MP1 calls t200

                            Turn: (t775) J (2 players)
                            Hero checks, MP1 checks

                            River: (t775) 2 (2 players)
                            Hero bets t600, 1 fold

                            Total pot: t775

                            Results:
                            Hero didn't show Q, J (nothing).
                            Outcome: Hero won t775

                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            BB (t2625)
                            UTG (t2955)
                            UTG+1 (t2635)
                            MP1 (t3340)
                            MP2 (t2705)
                            MP3 (t4775)
                            CO (t2925)
                            Button (t4330)
                            Hero (SB) (t3400)

                            Hero's M: 45.33

                            Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, A
                            7 folds, Hero bets t150, BB calls t100

                            Flop: (t300) Q, 8, 3 (2 players)
                            Hero checks, BB bets t177, Hero folds

                            Total pot: t300

                            Results:
                            BB didn't show
                            Outcome: BB won t300


                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            Button (t3225)
                            Hero (SB) (t9439)
                            BB (t5630)
                            UTG (t10340)
                            UTG+1 (t2928)
                            MP1 (t2930)
                            MP2 (t8470)
                            MP3 (t3550)
                            CO (t2258)

                            Hero's M: 39.33

                            Preflop: Hero is SB with K, J
                            7 folds, Hero bets t480, BB calls t320

                            Flop: (t960) 3, Q, 2 (2 players)
                            Hero checks, BB bets t400, Hero folds

                            Total pot: t960

                            Results:
                            BB didn't show
                            Outcome: BB won t960


                            Same villain, consecutive hands(the second being where I donked):

                            SPOILER

                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            SB (t6300)
                            BB (t3260)
                            UTG (t2065)
                            UTG+1 (t2285)
                            MP2 (t2930)
                            Hero (MP3) (t2575)
                            CO (t6785)
                            Button (t2975)

                            Hero's M: 28.61

                            Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 10, K
                            3 folds, Hero bets t180, 3 folds, BB raises to t480, 1 fold

                            Total pot: t390

                            Results:
                            BB didn't show
                            Outcome: BB won t390

                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                            saw flop | saw showdown

                            Button (t6270)
                            SB (t3470)
                            BB (t2065)
                            UTG (t2285)
                            MP1 (t2930)
                            Hero (MP2) (t2395)
                            MP3 (t6785)
                            CO (t2975)

                            Hero's M: 26.61

                            Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, A
                            2 folds, Hero bets t180, 3 folds, SB raises to t480, 1 fold, Hero calls t300

                            Flop: (t1020) 9, 6, 2 (2 players)
                            SB bets t399, Hero folds

                            Total pot: t1020

                            Results:
                            SB didn't show
                            Outcome: SB won t1020


                            On 1.8k and 3k in the KO.
                            Last edited by Caf; 25-01-11, 22:36.

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                              #15
                              do ot like the way anybody played this hand


                              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                              saw flop | saw showdown

                              UTG+1 (t2910)
                              MP1 (t2890)
                              MP2 (t3090)
                              MP3 (t2920)
                              CO (t2920)
                              Button (t2970)
                              Hero (SB) (t3300)
                              BB (t3000)
                              UTG (t3000)

                              Hero's M: 110.00

                              Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K
                              3 folds, MP2 calls t20, 3 folds, Hero calls t10, BB checks

                              Flop: (t60) K, 8, A (3 players)
                              Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks

                              Turn: (t60) Q (3 players)
                              Hero bets t40, BB calls t40, 1 fold

                              River: (t140) J (2 players)
                              Hero checks, BB bets t140, Hero calls t140

                              Total pot: t420

                              Results:
                              Hero had Q, K (two pair, Kings and Queens).
                              BB had 10, K (straight, Ace high).
                              Outcome: BB won t420



                              "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                do ot like the way anybody played this hand
                                Care to expand? I was tempted to c/f the river since he doesn't pot much I beat. Or would you b/f? Lead the turn?
                                Last edited by Caf; 25-01-11, 22:19.

                                Comment


                                  #17
                                  This guy had played a lot of pots and won most pf, ofc I pick the time he has it to 4b shove in the KO:
                                  SPOILER

                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                  Hero (CO) (t3055)
                                  Button (t2510)
                                  SB (t11900)
                                  BB (t3725)
                                  UTG (t1550)
                                  UTG+1 (t6545)
                                  MP1 (t5370)
                                  MP2 (t3345)
                                  MP3 (t2880)

                                  Hero's M: 25.46

                                  Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9
                                  5 folds, Hero bets t240, 2 folds, BB raises to t640, Hero raises to t3055 (All-In), BB calls t2415

                                  Flop: (t6150) 4, 8, 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  Turn: (t6150) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  River: (t6150) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  Total pot: t6150

                                  Results:
                                  BB had K, A (high card, Ace).
                                  Hero had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
                                  Outcome: Hero won t6150


                                  Perhaps a misread that this bb was tight. He hadn't played many pots and neither had I. really have no clue what is in his head but suckout ftw:
                                  SPOILER

                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                  Button (t4880)
                                  Hero (SB) (t8634)
                                  BB (t4798)
                                  UTG (t10105)
                                  UTG+1 (t8620)
                                  MP1 (t7580)
                                  MP2 (t15816)
                                  MP3 (t7997)
                                  CO (t11885)

                                  Hero's M: 8.22

                                  Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 10
                                  7 folds, Hero bets t8584 (All-In), BB calls t4348 (All-In)

                                  Flop: (t9946) J, 2, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  Turn: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  River: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  Total pot: t9946

                                  Results:
                                  Hero had 7, 10 (two pair, nines and sevens).
                                  BB had Q, 5 (one pair, nines).
                                  Outcome: Hero won t9946


                                  An exit from one KO:
                                  SPOILER

                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                  UTG+1 (t3870)
                                  MP1 (t5220)
                                  MP2 (t4710)
                                  MP3 (t3895)
                                  CO (t1605)
                                  Button (t17101)
                                  SB (t3525)
                                  Hero (BB) (t1795)
                                  UTG (t11270)

                                  Hero's M: 7.48

                                  Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
                                  7 folds, SB bets t3525 (All-In), Hero calls t1635 (All-In)

                                  Flop: (t3590) 7, 5, 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  Turn: (t3590) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  River: (t3590) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                  Total pot: t3590

                                  Results:
                                  SB had 10, A (one pair, Aces).
                                  Hero had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
                                  Outcome: SB won t3590



                                  Gone from the 84k, not sure where I finished but thought I was in a good spot getting it in. Everything closed autmatically thought so no HH. It was just a cooler though:
                                  400/800
                                  I'm utg+1 with KK(afaik 16-17k) and make it 1920, BB (33k iirc) calls. Flop is Q63r. BB checks and I bet 2675, he flats. BB checks and I ship 12k into 10.5k and he snap with bottom set to hold.

                                  On that note is there a way of seeing HHs from previous mtts? I can only find one HH set in 'requests' and it's the KO I am still.

                                  First 3 bounties, two hands:

                                  SPOILER
                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                  Hero (MP1) (t5520)
                                  MP2 (t4220)
                                  MP3 (t10880)
                                  CO (t2847)
                                  Button (t1710)
                                  SB (t7045)
                                  BB (t5520)
                                  UTG (t3045)
                                  UTG+1 (t2720)

                                  Hero's M: 30.67

                                  Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, 10
                                  2 folds, Hero bets t360, 3 folds, Button raises to t1710 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls t1350

                                  Flop: (t3600) A, K, 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  Turn: (t3600) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  River: (t3600) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                  Total pot: t3600

                                  Results:
                                  Button had 5, 5 (two pair, tens and fives).
                                  Hero had A, 10 (full house, tens over Aces).
                                  Outcome: Hero won t3600

                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                  Hero (MP3) (t5990)
                                  CO (t6488)
                                  Button (t10350)
                                  SB (t1469)
                                  BB (t6806)
                                  UTG (t8355)
                                  UTG+1 (t2005)
                                  MP1 (t6745)
                                  MP2 (t2825)

                                  Hero's M: 10.24

                                  Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, K
                                  3 folds, MP2 bets t2800 (All-In), Hero raises to t5965 (All-In), 2 folds, SB calls t1324 (All-In), 1 fold

                                  Flop: (t7509) 3, K, 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)

                                  Turn: (t7509) 2 (3 players, 3 all-in)

                                  River: (t7509) 2 (3 players, 3 all-in)

                                  Total pot: t7509

                                  Results:
                                  SB had A, Q (one pair, twos).
                                  MP2 had 10, 3 (two pair, threes and twos).
                                  Hero had A, K (two pair, Kings and twos).
                                  Outcome: Hero won t7509

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                    Perhaps a misread that this bb was tight. He hadn't played many pots and neither had I. really have no clue what is in his head but suckout ftw:
                                    SPOILER

                                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                    saw flop | saw showdown

                                    Button (t4880)
                                    Hero (SB) (t8634)
                                    BB (t4798)
                                    UTG (t10105)
                                    UTG+1 (t8620)
                                    MP1 (t7580)
                                    MP2 (t15816)
                                    MP3 (t7997)
                                    CO (t11885)

                                    Hero's M: 8.22

                                    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 10
                                    7 folds, Hero bets t8584 (All-In), BB calls t4348 (All-In)

                                    Flop: (t9946) J, 2, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                    Turn: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                    River: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                    Total pot: t9946

                                    Results:
                                    Hero had 7, 10 (two pair, nines and sevens).
                                    BB had Q, 5 (one pair, nines).
                                    Outcome: Hero won t9946
                                    Wouldn't criticise him tbf. Not sure if it's a great call but it's definitely closer than you're making out.
                                    Pining for Wa'erford

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                      Care to expand? I was tempted to c/f the river since he doesn't pot much I beat. Or would you b/f? Lead the turn?
                                      i would have raised it pre to 80
                                      and then c bet the flop


                                      the whole hand is way to passive for my liking

                                      guess your call on the river isn't that bad as you are 160~bb's deep and can well afford it, hard to put him on a straight tbh and if he was playing a weak ace you had him smashed.
                                      but like i said i don't think i woulda limped pre with KQs



                                      "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sligboi View Post
                                        Wouldn't criticise him tbf. Not sure if it's a great call but it's definitely closer than you're making out.
                                        Really? That's fairly interesting and completely the opposite to what I would have thought, as you can see from what I said, but I fold in his spot all of time and better hands too.

                                        Why/how is it close?

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                                          #21
                                          why did you shove 22bigs here with complete crap into an 12bb stack,
                                          surely if the guy was playing uber tight then a raise to 1k would have been sufficent.

                                          Perhaps a misread that this bb was tight. He hadn't played many pots and neither had I. really have no clue what is in his head but suckout ftw:

                                          Spoiler

                                          Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                          saw flop | saw showdown

                                          Button (t4880)
                                          Hero (SB) (t8634)
                                          BB (t4798)
                                          UTG (t10105)
                                          UTG+1 (t8620)
                                          MP1 (t7580)
                                          MP2 (t15816)
                                          MP3 (t7997)
                                          CO (t11885)

                                          Hero's M: 8.22

                                          Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 10
                                          7 folds, Hero bets t8584 (All-In), BB calls t4348 (All-In)

                                          Flop: (t9946) J, 2, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                          Turn: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                          River: (t9946) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                          Total pot: t9946

                                          Results:
                                          Hero had 7, 10 (two pair, nines and sevens).
                                          BB had Q, 5 (one pair, nines).
                                          Outcome: Hero won t9946





                                          "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sligboi View Post
                                            Wouldn't criticise him tbf. Not sure if it's a great call but it's definitely closer than you're making out.
                                            i think its a pretty retarded call by the bb tbh
                                            obviously caf's overshove just screams weakness imo, but it is still a bad call by him



                                            "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                              i would have raised it pre to 80
                                              and then c bet the flop


                                              the whole hand is way to passive for my liking

                                              guess your call on the river isn't that bad as you are 160~bb's deep and can well afford it, hard to put him on a straight tbh and if he was playing a weak ace you had him smashed.
                                              but like i said i don't think i woulda limped pre with KQs
                                              I limp because of the slim chance of my raise getting through and I don't want to build a pot to play this deep and early in the game. It's a nice hand but I'm going to be oop for it so don't like things getting messy.

                                              On the flop I'm never firing, c/c. The turn I think is standard unless I pot it. I'm either b/f,c/c or c/f the river, is there much difference in which I do? I didn't think so in a pot this size but now i'm beginning to think about it.

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                                                #24
                                                Btw bvb depending on the player/dynamics ect i snap call Q/K high alot with like 10-15bb
                                                ''Oh my god, I'm dropping shit like a pigeon
                                                I hope you're listening, smacking babies at their christening''

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                  i would have raised it pre to 80
                                                  and then c bet the flop


                                                  the whole hand is way to passive for my liking

                                                  guess your call on the river isn't that bad as you are 160~bb's deep and can well afford it, hard to put him on a straight tbh and if he was playing a weak ace you had him smashed.
                                                  but like i said i don't think i woulda limped pre with KQs
                                                  Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                  Really? That's fairly interesting and completely the opposite to what I would have thought, as you can see from what I said, but I fold in his spot all of time and better hands too.

                                                  Why/how is it close?
                                                  Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                  i think its a pretty retarded call by the bb tbh
                                                  obviously caf's overshove just screams weakness imo, but it is still a bad call by him
                                                  Will type up an answer in about an hour. Have to spend a bit of quality time. GL in w/e your playing atm Caf
                                                  Pining for Wa'erford

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                    I limp because of the slim chance of my raise getting through and I don't want to build a pot to play this deep and early in the game. It's a nice hand but I'm going to be oop for it so don't like things getting messy.

                                                    On the flop I'm never firing, c/c. The turn I think is standard unless I pot it. I'm either b/f,c/c or c/f the river, is there much difference in which I do? I didn't think so in a pot this size but now i'm beginning to think about it.
                                                    villian is never folding to your preflop raise
                                                    but he more than likely will fold to your cbet, if he dosn't you can just c/f the turn. but raising this pre is +ev in the long term i would think



                                                    "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                      why did you shove 22bigs here with complete crap into an 12bb stack,
                                                      surely if the guy was playing uber tight then a raise to 1k would have been sufficent.
                                                      Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                      i think its a pretty retarded call by the bb tbh
                                                      obviously caf's overshove just screams weakness imo, but it is still a bad call by him
                                                      It's not that he was uber tight, I just hadn't noticed him play many pots so fiigured he needs a better hand to call than he had. BB has less than 11bb behind. I tend to put a lot of pressure on short stacks when I'm SB shoving onto BB(or if I'm in LP). This would be a standard hand for me tbh and could be a big leak but I never considered it too much till now. If you make it something small here are folding to a rrai? The BB had 12bb total and we should win the pot pre a lot of the time imo. I'm never making a small raise on a stack this size in this spot. Raise folding is just throwing away chips, I would much rather fold.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Maloney View Post
                                                        Btw bvb depending on the player/dynamics ect i snap call Q/K high alot with like 10-15bb
                                                        Hmmm. I tend to do a lot of open shipping. I think it is much better to shove than call when short. I would rather ship atc in SB or LP if I am in the shoes of this BB with his stack and the relative stack sizes, and that 100% of the time. Before now I would have though it foolish to be calling there and am surprised to hear otherwise tbh, interesting stuff though.

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                          It's not that he was uber tight, I just hadn't noticed him play many pots so fiigured he needs a better hand to call than he had. BB has less than 11bb behind. I tend to put a lot of pressure on short stacks when I'm SB shoving onto BB(or if I'm in LP). This would be a standard hand for me tbh and could be a big leak but I never considered it too much till now. If you make it something small here are folding to a rrai? The BB had 12bb total and we should win the pot pre a lot of the time imo. I'm never making a small raise on a stack this size in this spot. Raise folding is just throwing away chips, I would much rather fold.
                                                          i would be folding alot in this position tbh
                                                          bb is just looking for somewher to get his chips in, especially this early in a tournie, most fishes are just focused on "don't go below 10bb's" theory and will push/call with anything that looks nice.

                                                          its just the way i think and may well be flawed



                                                          "Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl, Bart? Why did I have the bowl?"

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                                                            #30
                                                            And out of the last KO game. Finished 485th with 450 paid, was card dead since last hand posted.
                                                            SPOILER
                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 500/1000 Blinds 125 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                            saw flop | saw showdown

                                                            CO (t18599)
                                                            Button (t17285)
                                                            SB (t27447)
                                                            BB (t56292)
                                                            Hero (UTG) (t7224)
                                                            UTG+1 (t11246)
                                                            MP1 (t14404)
                                                            MP2 (t32589)
                                                            MP3 (t17713)

                                                            Hero's M: 2.75

                                                            Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8, 8
                                                            Hero bets t7099 (All-In), 7 folds, BB calls t6099

                                                            Flop: (t15823) 6, 5, 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                            Turn: (t15823) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                            River: (t15823) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                            Total pot: t15823

                                                            Results:
                                                            BB had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
                                                            Hero had 8, 8 (two pair, eights and sixes).
                                                            Outcome: BB won t15823


                                                            With bounties being my only return(afaik 3@$4) the br at the end of day is $338.09.

                                                            Edit: Playing some lateaments elsewhere but will get back to the above posts when I get a chance.
                                                            Last edited by Caf; 25-01-11, 23:22.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                              Hmmm. I tend to do a lot of open shipping. I think it is much better to shove than call when short. I would rather ship atc in SB or LP if I am in the shoes of this BB with his stack and the relative stack sizes, and that 100% of the time. Before now I would have though it foolish to be calling there and am surprised to hear otherwise tbh, interesting stuff though.
                                                              That q5 is a retarded call...just unlucky. People calling of 10-15 bb stacks blind on blind with q/k high is just ridiculous and will kill you long term...good players tend to avoid gambling blind on blind with marginal holdings.

                                                              Open ship only way t play that blind on blind and you got donked

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                                                                #32
                                                                I'm just getting a chance to look through the thread now. Quite happy with how most hand were play. Will get to any comments above shortly.

                                                                I'm still unsure about this one below. Hindsight may be an issue but I think I can flat the turn since the only hand I really beat(if it evens comes into someone's range) is AQ given the action on the flop. I know I have a big hand myself and a draw but looking at the action on the flop it's likely I could be drawing to a flush and my two pair is no good and can't improve. It's a pretty strong line villain has taken on flop imo and rarely going to be a FD. That being said he makes it look weak on the turn so I pounced, which was prob a rash move even though he has suddenly tried to disguise his hand. I was calling flop to re-evaluate the turn and made my decision based on his turn bet size alone. I think I'll flat here without a read in future and re-evaluate again on the river. Meh weird line by him so may not pop up too often. I know it's ok to get it in here though, I just don't see the need to go for broke there always.

                                                                Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                Well there ya go I guess. Another one bites the dust. Still on SS in t'other. I'll prob be looking for thoughts on this one later since we're deepish and there was a good bit of action:

                                                                SPOILER

                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                Button (t4105)
                                                                SB (t2850)
                                                                Hero (BB) (t2920)
                                                                UTG (t2910)
                                                                UTG+1 (t2940)
                                                                MP1 (t2580)
                                                                MP2 (t5425)
                                                                CO (t3270)

                                                                Hero's M: 64.89

                                                                Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, J
                                                                3 folds, MP2 calls t30, CO calls t30, 2 folds, Hero checks

                                                                Flop: (t105) J, Q, 4 (3 players)
                                                                Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets t30, Hero raises to t180, 1 fold, CO raises to t360, Hero calls t180

                                                                Turn: (t825) 2 (2 players)
                                                                Hero checks, CO bets t180, Hero raises to t2530 (All-In), CO calls t2350

                                                                River: (t5885) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                Total pot: t5885

                                                                Results:
                                                                Hero had 4, J (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
                                                                CO had J, Q (full house, Queens over Jacks).
                                                                Outcome: CO won t5885


                                                                Maybe it played itself, not sure tbh.

                                                                I tanked in the one below because the guy is such a spew monster that he would fire all three streets post with air, so technically I shouldn't tank but his bet size threw me off. I would snap it off here if he bet bigger which was what I was expecting tbh. His river bet size almost wants me to call so I tanked, sighed and did it. All very close and only a fold because of his bet size, but I'm nearly always calling regardless. Against most other players I fold river without much thought.

                                                                Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                A better few hands but not a good call on river by me in last hand before break. I hate the call but it's v close against this guy imo.
                                                                SPOILER

                                                                Hero's M: 92.62

                                                                Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
                                                                1 fold, UTG+1 bets t166, 4 folds, Hero calls t126, BB calls t86

                                                                Flop: (t498) A, 10, 7 (3 players)
                                                                Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t333, Hero calls t333, 1 fold

                                                                Turn: (t1164) K (2 players)
                                                                Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t666, Hero calls t666

                                                                River: (t2496) 8 (2 players)
                                                                Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t1111, Hero calls t1111

                                                                Total pot: t4718

                                                                Results:
                                                                Hero had A, J (one pair, Aces).
                                                                UTG+1 had Q, J (straight, Ace high).
                                                                Outcome: UTG+1 won t4718
                                                                In post number 14 I feel I value bet slightly too big on river with QJhh, top two pair. And I should fold to the 3bet with AJdd in same post.

                                                                I have looked back through all the hands now and, apart from the ones mentioned in this post I would play them all the same again tbh. As said before all thoughts, questions and the like appreciated.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                                  villian is never folding to your preflop raise
                                                                  but he more than likely will fold to your cbet, if he dosn't you can just c/f the turn. but raising this pre is +ev in the long term i would think
                                                                  I'm no EV expert now but it's more strategy that I limp here and for the reasons stated already. I think bigger/more pots can be won from the limp. If I raise and Cbet and villains calls the cbet and c/f, I have given up a decent % of my stack. A lot of limpers call and float a cbet without even knowing what they are actually doing, they just want to bet bet bet and try to win the pot and I'm in no-man's land most of the time. I think raising just opens it up to too much awkwardness for later streets. I like to keep pots small in general but especially when playing oop and in the early stages of the game. I'm all for raising here later on. I don't think either plays a bad tbh but prefer the flat.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                                    i would be folding alot in this position tbh
                                                                    bb is just looking for somewher to get his chips in, especially this early in a tournie, most fishes are just focused on "don't go below 10bb's" theory and will push/call with anything that looks nice.

                                                                    its just the way i think and may well be flawed
                                                                    I strongly doubt it's flawed tbh. Open folding 10,7 can't exactly be a flawed play with 22bb. It's only in my range against someone who I think will fold, the pot is 1050 after all. Surprised I got a call so light but obv a note was made on villain accordingly.

                                                                    Originally posted by fumyname View Post
                                                                    That q5 is a retarded call...just unlucky. People calling of 10-15 bb stacks blind on blind with q/k high is just ridiculous and will kill you long term...good players tend to avoid gambling blind on blind with marginal holdings.

                                                                    Open ship only way t play that blind on blind and you got donked
                                                                    I agree but I will be interested to hear what Sligo comes back with.
                                                                    Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 14:34.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                      I agree but I will be interested to hear what Sligo comes back with.
                                                                      Yeah sorry after the woman went to bed I found myself regged for a bunch of tourneys Only 1 left on ipoker now so will get something up in the next while.
                                                                      Pining for Wa'erford

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by sligboi View Post
                                                                        Yeah sorry after the woman went to bed I found myself regged for a bunch of tourneys Only 1 left on ipoker now so will get something up in the next while.
                                                                        No rush man, take your time. Hitting the hay soon enough myself.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Day 2:

                                                                          I was going to give it a miss today because the internet is fairly dodgy atm, but alas I am a degen so will grind on regardless. I really must take my finger out on getting a dongle though. I'll be registering for the same mtts as yesterday but regging as I go due to the internet issues.

                                                                          I gotta go find that run good hoody, maybe I'll even stretch to shades and an unlit smoke.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I'm going to take it as it comes with tonight. I may only play the two I'm in atm. With 2 internet disconnections and only one hand played it isn't going to be a fun night.

                                                                            I could have c/c the river here but I feel I lose value from A high.

                                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                            saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                            CO (t2990)
                                                                            Button (t2970)
                                                                            SB (t3010)
                                                                            Hero (BB) (t3000)
                                                                            UTG (t3030)
                                                                            UTG+1 (t3000)
                                                                            MP1 (t3000)
                                                                            MP2 (t3000)

                                                                            Hero's M: 100.00

                                                                            Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 8
                                                                            2 folds, MP1 bets t60, MP2 calls t60, 3 folds, Hero calls t40

                                                                            Flop: (t190) 7, 7, 4 (3 players)
                                                                            Hero checks, MP1 bets t120, 1 fold, Hero calls t120

                                                                            Turn: (t430) 9 (2 players)
                                                                            Hero checks, MP1 checks

                                                                            River: (t430) 9 (2 players)
                                                                            Hero bets t212, MP1 calls t212

                                                                            Total pot: t854

                                                                            Results:
                                                                            Hero had 8, 8 (two pair, nines and eights).
                                                                            MP1 had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and nines).
                                                                            Outcome: MP1 won t854

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                                              i would have raised it pre to 80
                                                                              and then c bet the flop


                                                                              the whole hand is way to passive for my liking

                                                                              guess your call on the river isn't that bad as you are 160~bb's deep and can well afford it, hard to put him on a straight tbh and if he was playing a weak ace you had him smashed.
                                                                              but like i said i don't think i woulda limped pre with KQs
                                                                              We have vastly different ideas on how this hand played out.

                                                                              Pre: Call is fine. We have a hand that plays well multiway and we're v deep so if we hit big we can win a big pot. If we raise the limper is calling 100% of his range and that just puts us into awkward spots later on. You say to cbet but are you going to cbet every flop. If so this is pretty bad tbh as we've got to take into consideration board texture and how well it has hit the limpers limp/call range.

                                                                              Flop: I like the ch as by betting the only hand we beat that calls is a worse king and we don't fold out any hand we beat. Also if we're c/r we're in a rank spot.

                                                                              Turn: I probably pot it here to build a pot and charge any draws that others have picked up.

                                                                              River is horrible. I probably check with the intention of calling but it looks so much like he's going for big value in a small pot so I probably end up c/f. Although a call isn't horrible as you can gain info for cheap relative to stack sizes re: how he bets w/ bluffs/for value depending on what he turns up with. It also stops people trying to bluff you later on as you've shown you're willing to call w/ relatively weak holdings on dangerous boards.


                                                                              Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                              Really? That's fairly interesting and completely the opposite to what I would have thought, as you can see from what I said, but I fold in his spot all of time and better hands too.

                                                                              Why/how is it close?
                                                                              Originally posted by Angry-Ball View Post
                                                                              i think its a pretty retarded call by the bb tbh
                                                                              obviously caf's overshove just screams weakness imo, but it is still a bad call by him
                                                                              Originally posted by sligboi View Post
                                                                              Wouldn't criticise him tbf. Not sure if it's a great call but it's definitely closer than you're making out.
                                                                              Like I said I'm not sure and maybe the math guys could back me up/ put me in my place. My pokerstove is acting up so can't do a range but he's getting approx 5/4 on his money so he needs ~45% against your perceived shoving range which I would think if we give you a range of all pairs, all broadway combos, all aces, all kings, all queens, all jacks and 910s (which I think is tight enough given a lot of people will shove 67s etc.) I'd be fairly confident he has very close to that equity vs this range. Other things like the bubble factor (Doke explained it in a previous post but I'm not too familiar with, come into the equation which may make it a worse call but purely vs your shoving range I think it's very close.
                                                                              Pining for Wa'erford

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Nothing much to report. Here's about the only two hands I've played, one from each in the 39k:

                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                Button (t2910)
                                                                                SB (t2975)
                                                                                BB (t4525)
                                                                                UTG (t3410)
                                                                                Hero (UTG+1) (t2795)
                                                                                MP1 (t3680)
                                                                                MP2 (t1570)
                                                                                MP3 (t3460)
                                                                                CO (t2775)

                                                                                Hero's M: 31.06

                                                                                Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, A
                                                                                UTG calls t60, Hero bets t240, 7 folds, UTG calls t180

                                                                                Flop: (t570) 7, 10, 9 (2 players)
                                                                                UTG checks, Hero checks

                                                                                Turn: (t570) 4 (2 players)
                                                                                UTG checks, Hero checks

                                                                                River: (t570) J (2 players)
                                                                                UTG checks, Hero checks

                                                                                Total pot: t570

                                                                                Results:
                                                                                UTG had J, A (one pair, Jacks).
                                                                                Hero had Q, A (high card, Ace).
                                                                                Outcome: UTG won t570


                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                SB (t2840)
                                                                                BB (t4650)
                                                                                Hero (UTG) (t2308)
                                                                                UTG+1 (t10110)
                                                                                MP1 (t2570)
                                                                                MP2 (t2855)
                                                                                CO (t4502)
                                                                                Button (t2910)

                                                                                Hero's M: 25.64

                                                                                Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 9
                                                                                Hero bets t180, UTG+1 calls t180, 3 folds, Button calls t180, 2 folds

                                                                                Flop: (t630) 4, 5, 3 (3 players)
                                                                                Hero bets t385, UTG+1 raises to t9930 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds

                                                                                Total pot: t1400

                                                                                Results:
                                                                                UTG+1 didn't show
                                                                                Outcome: UTG+1 won t1400

                                                                                I was about to flip a coin as to whether to call off in the 99 hand since villain snap shoved(usually means a FD imo) but decided to fold and try come back from a 30bb stack.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  @Sligo, I'll get back for a read of that asap, ty.

                                                                                  Plan was to crai here so I stuck to it. Is this a bad play does any one think? Should I be calling or folding? Obv I hit and won but that's the irrelevant bit.


                                                                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                  CO (t2910)
                                                                                  Button (t4515)
                                                                                  SB (t4895)
                                                                                  BB (t3580)
                                                                                  Hero (UTG) (t2465)
                                                                                  UTG+1 (t3590)
                                                                                  MP2 (t3370)
                                                                                  MP3 (t2775)

                                                                                  Hero's M: 20.54

                                                                                  Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, 9
                                                                                  Hero bets t240, 2 folds, MP3 calls t240, 3 folds, BB calls t160

                                                                                  Flop: (t760) 7, 6, 10 (3 players)
                                                                                  BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t400, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2225 (All-In), MP3 calls t1825

                                                                                  Turn: (t5210) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                  River: (t5210) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                  Total pot: t5210

                                                                                  Results:
                                                                                  Hero had 9, 9 (straight, ten high).
                                                                                  MP3 had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
                                                                                  Outcome: Hero won t5210



                                                                                  At the first break: 1584/1643 and 385/1643

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    A double up to get back into it:
                                                                                    SPOILER

                                                                                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                    saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                    UTG+1 (t2950)
                                                                                    MP1 (t4876)
                                                                                    MP2 (t1860)
                                                                                    Hero (MP3) (t1633)
                                                                                    CO (t10840)
                                                                                    Button (t2670)
                                                                                    SB (t2535)
                                                                                    BB (t3872)
                                                                                    UTG (t6645)

                                                                                    Hero's M: 10.89

                                                                                    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8, 8
                                                                                    4 folds, Hero bets t1633 (All-In), CO raises to t10840 (All-In), 3 folds

                                                                                    Flop: (t3416) 9, Q, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                    Turn: (t3416) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                    River: (t3416) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                    Total pot: t3416

                                                                                    Results:
                                                                                    Hero had 8, 8 (one pair, eights).
                                                                                    CO had J, A (high card, Ace).
                                                                                    Outcome: Hero won t3416


                                                                                    Villain is here is a very good player says OPR: 99.9+% the last 3 years. I'm not sure if I play AJo like him to a 16.33bb shove but w/e, I'll have another look at this hand later.

                                                                                    895/1547 and 564/1547

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                      saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                      CO (t2580)
                                                                                      Button (t5516)
                                                                                      SB (t3255)
                                                                                      Hero (BB) (t3186)
                                                                                      UTG (t9167)
                                                                                      UTG+1 (t4290)
                                                                                      MP1 (t4209)
                                                                                      MP2 (t5527)
                                                                                      MP3 (t7455)

                                                                                      Hero's M: 13.28

                                                                                      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K
                                                                                      UTG bets t320, 7 folds, Hero calls t160

                                                                                      Flop: (t720) 3, 4, 8 (2 players)
                                                                                      Hero checks, UTG checks

                                                                                      Turn: (t720) 10 (2 players)
                                                                                      Hero checks, UTG checks

                                                                                      River: (t720) K (2 players)
                                                                                      Hero bets t335, UTG calls t335

                                                                                      Total pot: t1390

                                                                                      Results:
                                                                                      Hero had Q, K (one pair, Kings).
                                                                                      UTG had K, J (one pair, Kings).
                                                                                      Outcome: Hero won t1390

                                                                                      This one is a bit of a dodgy spot for me tbh. This guy is the same villain in the 88>AJ hand above. I'm unsure about my call pre with my stack size but it's a min raise. I haven't a stack to see a flop and have to c/f if I miss but because it's an utg open I'm also unhappy to shove so said it was best to call and see a flop cheap. Caught in the middle as to what to do so went for the middle option I guess.

                                                                                      Got knocked out a couple of hands later in 1171st:
                                                                                      SPOILER

                                                                                      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                      saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                      MP1 (t2580)
                                                                                      MP2 (t5041)
                                                                                      MP3 (t3175)
                                                                                      Hero (CO) (t3821)
                                                                                      Button (t8112)
                                                                                      SB (t4490)
                                                                                      BB (t4984)
                                                                                      UTG (t5527)
                                                                                      UTG+1 (t7455)

                                                                                      Hero's M: 12.74

                                                                                      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
                                                                                      1 fold, UTG+1 bets t400, 3 folds, Hero raises to t3821 (All-In), 2 folds, BB raises to t4984 (All-In), 1 fold

                                                                                      Flop: (t8142) 7, 4, 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                      Turn: (t8142) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                      River: (t8142) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                      Total pot: t8142

                                                                                      Results:
                                                                                      BB had K, K (two pair, Kings and sevens).
                                                                                      Hero had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and sevens).
                                                                                      Outcome: BB won t8142


                                                                                      636/1028 with 4.1k, avg 6.8k

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Sigh...just ship it pre? meh


                                                                                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                        saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                        CO (t4335)
                                                                                        Button (t8200)
                                                                                        SB (t2552)
                                                                                        BB (t12275)
                                                                                        Hero (UTG) (t4075)
                                                                                        UTG+1 (t4440)
                                                                                        MP1 (t1770)
                                                                                        MP2 (t7457)
                                                                                        MP3 (t8170)

                                                                                        Hero's M: 6.97

                                                                                        Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
                                                                                        Hero bets t600, 3 folds, MP3 calls t600, 3 folds, BB calls t360

                                                                                        Flop: (t2145) Q, 2, A (3 players)
                                                                                        BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks

                                                                                        Turn: (t2145) 9 (3 players)
                                                                                        BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks

                                                                                        River: (t2145) 7 (3 players)
                                                                                        BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks

                                                                                        Total pot: t2145

                                                                                        Results:
                                                                                        BB had 9, J (one pair, nines).
                                                                                        Hero had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
                                                                                        MP3 had Q, J (one pair, Queens).
                                                                                        Outcome: MP3 won t2145

                                                                                        In need of double up so prob should have shipped. Not a whole lot of 3betting going either so probably would have been best to ship. time to snap out of it for the 84k starting now, oops forgot to reg!

                                                                                        3450, Avg 7.9km 758/880.

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Just below SS on both 84k tables.

                                                                                          A decent run of hands in the 39k.

                                                                                          AK>44(utg ships 10bb and reship(98chips) 10bb
                                                                                          44>67o(utg shipped 4bb and I reshipped from sb 20bb, BB folds)
                                                                                          JJ>88(utg open 2.2x, utg+1 calls and I ship 16.2bb called by utg+1 who covers me)
                                                                                          JJ>1010(I open 2.4x and lmp ships 19bb)

                                                                                          68/516 long way to go hopefully.

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Big stack just sat down to my left in the 39k. Open 4.5x in ep(I lick my lips) and took down his first pot. Next hand:


                                                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 300/600 Blinds 75 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                            saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                            MP2 (t30669)
                                                                                            MP3 (t21964)
                                                                                            CO (t9436)
                                                                                            Button (t26129)
                                                                                            Hero (SB) (t22106)
                                                                                            BB (t13971)
                                                                                            UTG (t3425)
                                                                                            UTG+1 (t35154)
                                                                                            MP1 (t8075)

                                                                                            Hero's M: 14.04

                                                                                            Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
                                                                                            UTG bets t3350 (All-In), UTG+1 calls t3350, 5 folds, Hero raises to t22031 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t18681

                                                                                            Flop: (t48687) 10, J, J (3 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                            Turn: (t48687) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                            River: (t48687) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                            Total pot: t48687

                                                                                            Results:
                                                                                            Hero had Q, Q (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
                                                                                            UTG had A, 7 (one pair, Jacks).
                                                                                            UTG+1 had 4, 4 (two pair, Jacks and fours).
                                                                                            Outcome: Hero won t48687

                                                                                            16/347 atm on 51k after taking the next pot down cbetting K10o on AAx flop.


                                                                                            In the 84k:
                                                                                            3646/4200
                                                                                            2837/4200
                                                                                            Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 19:52.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Double up in one of the 84k. CO open 3x to 240, I ship 25bb in bb and my 88 holds over his AKo.
                                                                                              1095/4259
                                                                                              3131/3259

                                                                                              Just won the last pot before the break in the 39k, possibly a bit more interesting than most of the HHs posted:
                                                                                              SPOILER

                                                                                              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 100 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                              saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                              CO (t12630)
                                                                                              Button (t28736)
                                                                                              SB (t15747)
                                                                                              BB (t27612)
                                                                                              Hero (UTG) (t49602)
                                                                                              UTG+1 (t15721)
                                                                                              MP1 (t11966)
                                                                                              MP2 (t51009)
                                                                                              MP3 (t6600)

                                                                                              Hero's M: 23.62

                                                                                              Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A
                                                                                              Hero bets t1920, 4 folds, CO calls t1920, 2 folds, BB calls t1120

                                                                                              Flop: (t7060) K, 7, 10 (3 players)
                                                                                              BB checks, Hero bets t5125, 1 fold, BB calls t5125

                                                                                              Turn: (t17310) J (2 players)
                                                                                              BB checks, Hero checks

                                                                                              River: (t17310) 5 (2 players)
                                                                                              BB checks, Hero bets t8850, BB calls t8850

                                                                                              Total pot: t35010

                                                                                              Results:
                                                                                              BB had 9, J (one pair, Jacks).
                                                                                              Hero had K, A (one pair, Kings).
                                                                                              Outcome: Hero won t35010


                                                                                              In the hand above, I just want to point out MP2 is the guy that doubled me up in the big pot above QQ>44>A7s. He has somehow got his stack back up so hoping to play a big one against him.
                                                                                              8/305 at the break, 234 itm.

                                                                                              EDIT: table broke but a big stack to my right
                                                                                              Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 20:05.

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I'm just presuming this is a standard reship:

                                                                                                SPOILER
                                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                MP2 (t6182)
                                                                                                MP3 (t2550)
                                                                                                CO (t3000)
                                                                                                Button (t710)
                                                                                                SB (t2813)
                                                                                                BB (t6060)
                                                                                                Hero (UTG) (t4700)
                                                                                                UTG+1 (t5092)
                                                                                                MP1 (t1680)

                                                                                                Hero's M: 39.17

                                                                                                Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
                                                                                                Hero bets t200, 4 folds, CO calls t200, Button raises to t710 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero raises to t4700 (All-In), 1 fold

                                                                                                Flop: (t1740) 3, 5, 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                Turn: (t1740) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                River: (t1740) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                Total pot: t1740

                                                                                                Results:
                                                                                                Button had 4, 4 (full house, fives over fours).
                                                                                                Hero had A, J (three of a kind, fives).
                                                                                                Outcome: Button won t1740

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  dependent on CO, but pretty much ship there all day, unless CO could be tricky/excellent and be flatting there in expectation of a 3bet?

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Pop goes the bubble in the 39k. 22/194.

                                                                                                    A double up in one 84k:
                                                                                                    SPOILER

                                                                                                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                    saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                    UTG+1 (t3960)
                                                                                                    MP1 (t12085)
                                                                                                    MP2 (t2460)
                                                                                                    MP3 (t3450)
                                                                                                    CO (t4625)
                                                                                                    Button (t3935)
                                                                                                    SB (t3720)
                                                                                                    Hero (BB) (t2330)
                                                                                                    UTG (t1895)

                                                                                                    Hero's M: 12.94

                                                                                                    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 5
                                                                                                    UTG calls t120, UTG+1 calls t120, 6 folds, Hero checks

                                                                                                    Flop: (t420) 5, 8, 7 (3 players)
                                                                                                    Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t420, Hero raises to t2210 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t1790

                                                                                                    Turn: (t4840) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                    River: (t4840) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                    Total pot: t4840

                                                                                                    Results:
                                                                                                    Hero had 8, 5 (flush, Jack high).
                                                                                                    UTG+1 had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
                                                                                                    Outcome: Hero won t4840


                                                                                                    84k: 1970/3577 and 1368/3577

                                                                                                    Forgot to reg for the 8:00 KO. I'll either stick with these 3 or pick another one on the next break.

                                                                                                    Comment


                                                                                                      #51
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Emmet View Post
                                                                                                      dependent on CO, but pretty much ship there all day, unless CO could be tricky/excellent and be flatting there in expectation of a 3bet?
                                                                                                      CO was an unknown, just sat down at the table. I figure he doesn't want to go broke in his first hand but wants to catch up so flats to see a flop very wide(random thoughts but there ya go)
                                                                                                      Last edited by Caf; 26-01-11, 20:59.

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                                                                                                        #52
                                                                                                        A few hands(1 from each table):


                                                                                                        SPOILER
                                                                                                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 800/1600 Blinds 200 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                        saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                        MP2 (t24395)
                                                                                                        MP3 (t41348)
                                                                                                        CO (t30934)
                                                                                                        Button (t52989)
                                                                                                        SB (t56597)
                                                                                                        BB (t53495)
                                                                                                        UTG (t148358)
                                                                                                        UTG+1 (t36242)
                                                                                                        Hero (MP1) (t59432)

                                                                                                        Hero's M: 14.15

                                                                                                        Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, Q
                                                                                                        1 fold, UTG+1 bets t3700, Hero raises to t7750, 7 folds

                                                                                                        Total pot: t11600

                                                                                                        Results:
                                                                                                        Hero didn't show A, Q.
                                                                                                        Outcome: Hero won t11600

                                                                                                        I'm ahead of utg+1's range and was hoping he reshipped but sure w/e.

                                                                                                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 80/160 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                        saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                        Hero (BB) (t4620)
                                                                                                        UTG (t4400)
                                                                                                        UTG+1 (t6991)
                                                                                                        MP1 (t5889)
                                                                                                        MP2 (t2068)
                                                                                                        MP3 (t1885)
                                                                                                        CO (t6752)
                                                                                                        Button (t2074)
                                                                                                        SB (t10880)

                                                                                                        Hero's M: 19.25

                                                                                                        Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 8
                                                                                                        1 fold, UTG+1 calls t160, MP1 calls t160, 2 folds, CO calls t160, 2 folds, Hero checks

                                                                                                        Flop: (t720) 5, 8, 4 (4 players)
                                                                                                        Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks

                                                                                                        Turn: (t720) 6 (4 players)
                                                                                                        Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t320, 2 folds, Hero calls t320

                                                                                                        River: (t1360) 5 (2 players)
                                                                                                        Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t720, Hero folds

                                                                                                        Total pot: t1360

                                                                                                        Results:
                                                                                                        UTG+1 didn't show
                                                                                                        Outcome: UTG+1 won t1360

                                                                                                        I really would have like to crai here on flop. Turn call might not be great.

                                                                                                        Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                        saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                        Button (t9471)
                                                                                                        SB (t1900)
                                                                                                        BB (t4780)
                                                                                                        UTG (t7192)
                                                                                                        UTG+1 (t6156)
                                                                                                        MP1 (t7108)
                                                                                                        Hero (MP2) (t6546)
                                                                                                        MP3 (t6860)
                                                                                                        CO (t14378)

                                                                                                        Hero's M: 21.82

                                                                                                        Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, Q
                                                                                                        3 folds, Hero bets t500, 1 fold, CO calls t500, Button calls t500, SB raises to t1900 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to t6546 (All-In), 2 folds

                                                                                                        Flop: (t5000) J, Q, 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                        Turn: (t5000) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                        River: (t5000) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                        Total pot: t5000

                                                                                                        Results:
                                                                                                        SB had K, K (two pair, Kings and eights).
                                                                                                        Hero had A, Q (two pair, Queens and eights).
                                                                                                        Outcome: SB won t5000

                                                                                                        This one is similar to the AJ reship.

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                                                                                                          #53
                                                                                                          Didn't get the HH but gone from one of the 84k tables. 120/240/25. Ship A2ss in CO for 3.8k and SB snaps AKo to hold. 2562nd.

                                                                                                          Double up in the other 84k: Shipped 2.9k on butt with A10hh to win a flip against 99 in the BB. 1252/2364.

                                                                                                          Still above avg in the 39k. 31/110 at the break. Just had a similar hand to above, 1k/2k/250: same utg+1 opens and I(mp1 again obv) 3b AQo, all fold.
                                                                                                          Last edited by Caf; 27-01-11, 18:12.

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                                                                                                            #54
                                                                                                            53/97 after this:

                                                                                                            SPOILER

                                                                                                            Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 1200/2400 Blinds 300 Ante (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                            saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                            MP2 (t34229)
                                                                                                            CO (t10650)
                                                                                                            Button (t61332)
                                                                                                            SB (t45442)
                                                                                                            BB (t68221)
                                                                                                            UTG (t33596)
                                                                                                            UTG+1 (t131416)
                                                                                                            Hero (MP1) (t67932)

                                                                                                            Hero's M: 11.32

                                                                                                            Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4, 4
                                                                                                            2 folds, Hero bets t5520, 1 fold, CO raises to t8640, 3 folds, Hero raises to t11760, CO calls t1710 (All-In)

                                                                                                            Flop: (t26700) 8, 10, 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                            Turn: (t26700) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                            River: (t26700) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                            Total pot: t26700

                                                                                                            Results:
                                                                                                            Hero had 4, 4 (two pair, tens and eights).
                                                                                                            CO had K, 10 (full house, tens over eights).
                                                                                                            Outcome: CO won t26700
                                                                                                            Perhaps a fold pre. This guy was tilted from the last hand so was prob getting it in atc



                                                                                                            1010 utg<KK aipf so down to 7bb after this blind goes through.

                                                                                                            Back to 37/89 in the 39k after winning two pots pre, 1 3b shoving AQdd for 25bb from sb to an lp open

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                                                                                                              #55
                                                                                                              Exit from the 39k:

                                                                                                              SPOILER
                                                                                                              Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 1500/3000 Blinds 400 Ante (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                              saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                              MP1 (t86326)
                                                                                                              MP2 (t112641)
                                                                                                              CO (t58980)
                                                                                                              Button (t89984)
                                                                                                              SB (t91650)
                                                                                                              BB (t26996)
                                                                                                              UTG (t39648)
                                                                                                              Hero (UTG+1) (t64482)

                                                                                                              Hero's M: 8.37

                                                                                                              Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K
                                                                                                              1 fold, Hero bets t7155, 4 folds, SB raises to t17888, 1 fold, Hero raises to t64082 (All-In), SB calls t46194

                                                                                                              Flop: (t134364) Q, A, 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                              Turn: (t134364) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                              River: (t134364) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                              Total pot: t134364

                                                                                                              Results:
                                                                                                              SB had Q, A (full house, Queens over Aces).
                                                                                                              Hero had A, K (two pair, Aces and Queens).
                                                                                                              Outcome: SB won t134364


                                                                                                              Gone in 82nd for $80.42

                                                                                                              V short in the 84k still but got a fewe back. Limpy utg+1 with 21k limps and I shove 5bb 1.9k, and it gets through. Have had to take a hit from blinds again after picking up 93o utg with 8bb and folding.

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                                                                                                                #56
                                                                                                                Double up in this last game.

                                                                                                                SPOILER

                                                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                                Hero (BB) (t3255)
                                                                                                                UTG (t8010)
                                                                                                                UTG+1 (t13853)
                                                                                                                MP1 (t5174)
                                                                                                                MP2 (t11936)
                                                                                                                MP3 (t6925)
                                                                                                                CO (t6120)
                                                                                                                Button (t7345)
                                                                                                                SB (t19636)

                                                                                                                Hero's M: 3.10

                                                                                                                Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, K
                                                                                                                2 folds, MP1 calls t400, 1 fold, MP3 bets t6875 (All-In), 4 folds, MP1 calls t4724 (All-In)

                                                                                                                Flop: (t11298) 7, J, 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                                Turn: (t11298) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                                River: (t11298) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

                                                                                                                Total pot: t11298

                                                                                                                Results:
                                                                                                                MP1 had K, 10 (one pair, sevens).
                                                                                                                MP3 had 8, 8 (two pair, eights and sevens).
                                                                                                                Outcome: MP3 won t11298

                                                                                                                Just thought I would post this fold in case it's an issue. It happened the hand before this one(I was shipping atc here but picked up a hand):


                                                                                                                Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                                saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                                Hero (SB) (t2805)
                                                                                                                BB (t7960)
                                                                                                                UTG (t13803)
                                                                                                                UTG+1 (t7420)
                                                                                                                MP1 (t11886)
                                                                                                                MP2 (t13049)
                                                                                                                MP3 (t6070)
                                                                                                                CO (t7295)
                                                                                                                Button (t19386)

                                                                                                                Hero's M: 2.67

                                                                                                                Preflop: Hero is SB with K, J
                                                                                                                7 folds, Hero bets t2755 (All-In), BB calls t2355

                                                                                                                Flop: (t5960) Q, A, 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                Turn: (t5960) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                River: (t5960) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                Total pot: t5960

                                                                                                                Results:
                                                                                                                Hero had K, J (straight, Ace high).
                                                                                                                BB had Q, J (two pair, Aces and Queens).
                                                                                                                Outcome: Hero won t5960


                                                                                                                Still short though, 1196/1441

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                                                                                                                  #57
                                                                                                                  And that's a rap for tonight's games.

                                                                                                                  Just gone from the 84k in 1171st:
                                                                                                                  SPOILER

                                                                                                                  Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                                  saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                                  Hero (BB) (t4410)
                                                                                                                  UTG (t16010)
                                                                                                                  UTG+1 (t5675)
                                                                                                                  MP1 (t5220)
                                                                                                                  MP2 (t1240)
                                                                                                                  MP3 (t24880)
                                                                                                                  CO (t6545)
                                                                                                                  Button (t11740)
                                                                                                                  SB (t26205)

                                                                                                                  Hero's M: 3.67

                                                                                                                  Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A
                                                                                                                  1 fold, UTG+1 calls t500, 4 folds, Button calls t500, 1 fold, Hero bets t4360 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls t3860

                                                                                                                  Flop: (t9920) J, K, 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                  Turn: (t9920) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                  River: (t9920) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                  Total pot: t9920

                                                                                                                  Results:
                                                                                                                  Button had 7, 7 (two pair, sevens and fives).
                                                                                                                  Hero had 9, A (one pair, fives).
                                                                                                                  Outcome: Button won t9920

                                                                                                                  I had a read on ep that he limps weak but no read on butt. I just presumed he was along for the ride and would fold a lot of his range.


                                                                                                                  Br at the end on Day 2 is $314.51. Who knows, Day 2 may not be over yet.

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                                                                                                                    #58
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                                                                    And that's a rap for tonight's games.

                                                                                                                    Just gone from the 84k in 1171st:
                                                                                                                    SPOILER

                                                                                                                    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

                                                                                                                    saw flop | saw showdown

                                                                                                                    Hero (BB) (t4410)
                                                                                                                    UTG (t16010)
                                                                                                                    UTG+1 (t5675)
                                                                                                                    MP1 (t5220)
                                                                                                                    MP2 (t1240)
                                                                                                                    MP3 (t24880)
                                                                                                                    CO (t6545)
                                                                                                                    Button (t11740)
                                                                                                                    SB (t26205)

                                                                                                                    Hero's M: 3.67

                                                                                                                    Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, A
                                                                                                                    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t500, 4 folds, Button calls t500, 1 fold, Hero bets t4360 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls t3860

                                                                                                                    Flop: (t9920) J, K, 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                    Turn: (t9920) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                    River: (t9920) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

                                                                                                                    Total pot: t9920

                                                                                                                    Results:
                                                                                                                    Button had 7, 7 (two pair, sevens and fives).
                                                                                                                    Hero had 9, A (one pair, fives).
                                                                                                                    Outcome: Button won t9920

                                                                                                                    I had a read on ep that he limps weak but no read on butt. I just presumed he was along for the ride and would fold a lot of his range.


                                                                                                                    Br at the end on Day 2 is $314.51. Who knows, Day 2 may not be over yet.
                                                                                                                    Standard shove imo. ul
                                                                                                                    Pining for Wa'erford

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                                                                                                                      #59
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sligboi View Post
                                                                                                                      Like I said I'm not sure and maybe the math guys could back me up/ put me in my place. My pokerstove is acting up so can't do a range but he's getting approx 5/4 on his money so he needs ~45% against your perceived shoving range which I would think if we give you a range of all pairs, all broadway combos, all aces, all kings, all queens, all jacks and 910s (which I think is tight enough given a lot of people will shove 67s etc.) I'd be fairly confident he has very close to that equity vs this range. Other things like the bubble factor (Doke explained it in a previous post but I'm not too familiar with, come into the equation which may make it a worse call but purely vs your shoving range I think it's very close.
                                                                                                                      I remember the post by Doke that you are talking about. I'm not sure it applies here. What doke was talking was a hand played against a competent player, FD iirc, in a game full of competent players but that also had a different structure, more like a multi table stt turbo or something, so different strategy should also apply imo. It's a $26 DS 12min levels minefield where the standard isn't great. In these games I don't think you need to be calling here with Q5s because you can find much better spots to take a pot pf.

                                                                                                                      Like you, I'm not sure about what I'm saying but confident that a fold here(Q5s) with the relative stack sizes at the table is not going to be a bad thing in the long run.

                                                                                                                      I remember seeing a post in the HH section, something like:

                                                                                                                      shoving>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling

                                                                                                                      I took a lot from that simple post and think it applies here, but obviously I'm open to learn something knew, this is just my reasoning in villains spot.

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                                                                                                                        #60
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Caf View Post
                                                                                                                        I remember the post by Doke that you are talking about. I'm not sure it applies here. What doke was talking was a hand played against a competent player, FD iirc, in a game full of competent players but that also had a different structure, more like a multi table stt turbo or something, so different strategy should also apply imo. It's a $26 DS 12min levels minefield where the standard isn't great. In these games I don't think you need to be calling here with Q5s because you can find much better spots to take a pot pf.

                                                                                                                        Like you, I'm not sure about what I'm saying but confident that a fold here(Q5s) with the relative stack sizes at the table is not going to be a bad thing in the long run.

                                                                                                                        I remember seeing a post in the HH section, something like:

                                                                                                                        shoving>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling

                                                                                                                        I took a lot from that simple post and think it applies here, but obviously I'm open to learn something knew, this is just my reasoning in villains spot.
                                                                                                                        Yeah I wasn't saying it applied but if we were closer to the bubble he, mathematically at least, has to fold which would obviously make it a worse call.

                                                                                                                        It's just from my experience when a player gets around the 10bb stack size they start to want to get it in with anything that looks pretty which is why I've tightened my shoving range in this spot significantly in the past while.
                                                                                                                        Pining for Wa'erford

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