get on wexford to beat UCD in the hurling . . .
Same as the DCU bet, dud team going out
Same as the DCU bet, dud team going out
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Decent source? Will get a friend to hit it tomorrow if its 4/6 or better.Originally posted by Semibluff View PostComment
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I lumped it on at this priceOriginally posted by Gimmeabreak
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Dublinwillshould beat NUIG tomorrow, 8/15 atmComment
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Thursday's Vinnes Friend run referred to Turf Club
The performance of beaten 3/1 favourite Vinnes Friend in the Leugh Handicap Hurdle at Thurles on Thursday has been referred to the Turf Club for further investigation.
Ridden by Davy Russell, Vinnes Friend finished sixth of the 10 runners. The mare appeared to hold every chance at the third last flight during Thursday's race before failing to pick up under a hands and heels ride in the straight.
Afterwards Vinnes Friend's trainer Philip Rothwell described the Stewards' decision to refer the matter further as "absolutely ridiculous."
He added "she couldn't handle the ground. I was in two minds whether to run her but it was a small, umcompetitive field and we took a chance. I even told them I was giving her a break after today and bringing her back for a summer campaign."
Vinnes Friend, which landed a substantial morning gamble on Soft ground at Wexford on October 24 2009, having pulled up on her two previous runs, drifted from 15/8 to 3/1 (Betfair SP of 5.1) prior to Thursday's race.Comment
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theres still 4t7 available with SJ. 4/9 paddys, 4/11 laddies. should be 1/3 or shorterOriginally posted by Eddie Durkin View Post
Comes str8 from ucd, mate coaches a gaa footy team there.
Ill take some of it off you if you want?!?Originally posted by bubbleking View PostI lumped it on at this price - wer talking life role busto if this goes pear shaped
Ive backed Kildare to beat Louth at 4/7 alsoOriginally posted by NewApproach View PostComment
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This is not suprising as vinnie is owned by a couple of degenerate gamblers and trained by a man that has a neck bigger than any jockeys bo**x.Originally posted by NewApproach View Post
Russell didnt burst himself trying to get into the race.
Rothwell is well used to being before the stewards for this carry on and always manages to worm his way out of it."Quitters never win, Winners never quit."Comment
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West Ham/Nigeria double for me today. Could only get 3-1 where I was, with just Billy Hills in the area.Hey buddy, did ya get that thing I sent ya?Comment
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superbowl
Any one follow American football?
Im in Vegas when this is on so im going to have to pick a side to back. All I know is its New Orleans Saints Vs Indianapolis Colts. Any ideas anyone?Comment
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dont back it wit casino bookies main tip, their book is ridic. Theyre liable to have it at 4/6 colts, evens Saints.
im on colts as it is. They got a very high scoring win against the jets defence who are the best defence in the nfl. Also Brees (the QB for saints) was kept relatively quiet by the vikings defence. Colts defence is alot better than vikings. Should be some game, but Colts are better team imoComment
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Colts should win but doubt you will get good odds on them.Originally posted by pkaces View Post
well, try asking eagle eye perhaps..Comment
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O dear...Originally posted by bubbleking View PostI lumped it on at this price - wer talking life role busto if this goes pear shapedComment
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good tip I would have done that...so just bet online or find a bookies thenOriginally posted by Semibluff View PostComment
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I was hoping the over/under market would be good for this one but they have it very high at between 55 and 57 depending on where you look.Originally posted by pkaces View Post
Colts are averaging 28 points per game over the season and conceding roughly 19 per game.
Saints are averaging 32 points per game and conceding 20 points per game.
Generally in the Superbowl the scoring is a lot lower but with these two teams its likely that the nerves will show on defense and not on offense.
Its one of those games that is just impossible to predict, either team could just blow away the other, the stats probably give an edge to the Saints but the AFC which the Colts come from has been known to be better winning 7 of the last 10 Superbowls.
I will be backing the Saints and not because I'm hugely confident but at over 2/1 they represent serious value.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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Why didn't Essien start for Ghana?
"Worldly wisdom teaches that it is better for reputation to fail conventionally than to succeed unconventionally." - John Maynard KeynesComment
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His season is over i think.Originally posted by LuckyLloyd View PostWhy didn't Essien start for Ghana?Comment
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Originally posted by Semibluff View Post
Their books are usually very poor value for outright markets but on the match markets i would say you could find some value in some of the casino sportsbooks. I hope the line moves out to 6 or 6.5 and then the Saints could be a very good bet imo.Comment
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Very hard to argue with this logic. The Saints were the team to beat all season, and now that they've made the final I really don't think the pricing is right.Originally posted by eagle eye View Post
Admittedly the Colts are experienced, and that will give them an edge, but no doubt that the value lies with the Saints.Hey buddy, did ya get that thing I sent ya?Comment
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..."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big PhilComment
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Appears to have vanished in last 48 hours. I was only perusing the market on Saturday afternoon!Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostComment
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The point spread on the Superbowl is 5.5 pts which is very skant IMO.
I believe that Indianapolis are a true 7.5 pts.
Both are big scoring teams but the Colts are a crazy disciplined and are explosive without being overly noticed. A very mean and determined defence usually wins this tight affair. The Colts disassembled the Leagues best defence in the Jets after an half hour of study from the best in the business Peyton Manning.
The Saints on the other hand have played some outrageous attacking Football all year but wow were they lucky against the Vikings! They are all about attack and have no problem conceding points because it is their belief that they will score more no matter what! This is the rock that they will perish on. They also seemed to panic in the Championship game and made uncharacteristic mistakes coming close to the end. I think they do not have the bottle when push comes to shove as opposed to the Colts who are running with ice in their veins.....
Max bet on the Colts -5.5.........Comment
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Shogun: Do you think a little bit of dutching might be the way to approach this one? I was thinking Colts -5.5 for 3 points and Saints straight up for 1 point. That way the only negative outcome for us is a narrow Colts victory."I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. ThompsonComment
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most superbowls are narrow tight affairs - so very likely to get fingers burned like that. If i were to back any win market, id take colts by less than 8 myselfComment
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No offense but you are just looking at a couple of games, three in fact as you make up your mind.Originally posted by Shogun View Post
The Saints still managed to put up 31 points against the Vikings and that is enough points to win over 90% of games.
Also the Colts have faced two young quarterbacks in the playoffs neither of whom are considered in the top 10 in the league.
Brees is one of the best.
On Defense the Colts have had injury problems all year and now Dwight Freeney who is one of the best pass rushers in the league is seriously doubtful for this game, he is a huge part of the Colts D.
The Saints D are not that good, the style they play is dangerous and has worked tremendously against better passing teams. While they do give up biggish scores they gave up less tds through the air than all bar four other teams. They have suffered against a good ground game but the Colts don't have that.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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Any F1 fans here?
Really like Alonso at 4's for the championship this year. I think he's by far the most talented of the current crop and now he's finally back in very good car I think he's a shoe in once Ferrari stays reasonably reliable this season.
Thinking of laying Schumi at the same price! Opinions?Profit before people.Comment
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While I agree with your choices, I wouldn't bother doing it.Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post
The season is a long time to wiat for a bet at 4s, I prefer going for longer odds and laying them off in a month or two, or just taking the weekly bets
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.Originally posted by Mellor View Post
Same as backing any team in any sport to win a league surely?
I mean I don't like backing single race winners because anything can happen on the day but over a long season the cream usually comes to the top and I think that's Fernando.Profit before people.Comment
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Who is Schumi, is that Michael Schumacher?Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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Yeah exactly like a league winner.Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post
I almost never bet on the outcome of a yearly league, as it's very long to wait and there is little value in my opinion.
One exception was when united had a bad first half and their price drifted a lot, I backed with the intention to lay off when they got back up but they ran good so I let it ride.Comment
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Well I'm not a F1 expert but I don't think laying the best race driver ever to sit in a car is a good idea.Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post
I am nearly tempted to back him for next year, I do realise he has been out of the game for a couple of years, is older, and the car is hugely important but man he was so dominant that its hard to see him coming back unless he is getting a real good car and has a shot at the title, unless he is a busto degen outside the sport or something and had to come back to make more money.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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Meh, he is out of the game for so long, he can't be as sharp.
He was so dominant partly because he was with Ferrari (who were miles ahead of the rest at the time) and the main reason why laying him is a good bet is exactly what you said.
There is going to be so much money on him because of the "OMG Schumi" factor that the lay price is the value. (Just like Ivey on the WSOP ME FT)Originally posted by eagle eye View PostComment
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I was thinking of the Ivey comparison myself.
Even in his last two seasons (05,06) he was showing slight signs of ageing imo where Alonso won both years for Renault. He's now 40 and giving the huge demands on fitness in F1, espeically in the more humid races, I'd seriously question whether a man of his age could handle this consistantly.
The car is also a relative unknown too so to have him level in price with Hamilton and Alonso in established cars is wrong.Profit before people.Comment
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Well there is a group of elite people that over the last decade I would say it was very foolish to lay them. They were just outstanding in their sports/games and were just so far ahead of the opposition. Even now with him being older and having been out of the sport for a couple of years I don't like laying him. The group he was in was this one,
Roger Federer
Tiger Woods
Phil Taylor
Michael Schumacher'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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There is a huge difference with all of them.Originally posted by eagle eye View Post
Federer is 28 not 40.
Tiger isn't exactly old for the sport of golf, which is much less physical than most sports, mental power is more important.
Taylor, again, darts isn't as physical, and age is less or a burden.
And while i never lay the above, as the variance is a bitch. I honestly think that they are all under priced for most tourneys, at least on the highstreetComment
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ugh (minor rant)
backed a nag last week, it hosed in (poor race but w/e) and said to myself that I'd keep an eye out for it again as it would surely be out again quickly
and there it is, Wedding Party in the 4.30 @ Southwell. Only problem is that Ryan has put his apprenticed daughter up on it replacing Frannie Norton. wtf? Can't back it now. Moan, complain etc"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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This will be an epic quote when it no doubt romps home.Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostComment
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lol, indeed - no doubt it will win by the width of the trackOriginally posted by jackyback View Post
I am insanely sexist when it comes to female jockeys (Hayley Turner possible exception), see no reason to break that rule here"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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..."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big PhilComment
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Sure it's the same horse? Wedding Dream on PPOriginally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostHunter S Thompson 1937-2005 - "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"Comment
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"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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..."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big PhilComment
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Could be a weight thing?Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
Is this race a step up in class or much the same level?
"Horse does most of the work"Comment
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Any interest in the weekends rugby. Thinking of backing Scotland+7 and Ireland-21 singles at 10/11 and double it up. Not going near England Wales. ThoughtsProfit before people.Comment
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Originally posted by eagle eye View Post
XLIII Feb. 1, 2009 Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23
XLII Feb. 3, 2008 New York 17, New England 14
XLI Feb. 4, 2007 Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
XL Feb. 5, 2006 Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 New England 24, Philadelphia 21
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 New England 32, Carolina 29
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 New England 20, St. Louis 17
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Baltimore 34, N.Y. Giants 7
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 Denver 34, Atlanta 19
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Denver 31, Green Bay 24
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Green Bay 35, New England 21
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17
XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26
XXVIII Jan. 30, 1994 Dallas 30, Buffalo 13
XXVII Jan. 31, 1993 Dallas 52, Buffalo 17
XXVI Jan. 26, 1992 Washington 37, Buffalo 24
XXV Jan. 27, 1991 N.Y. Giants 20, Buffalo 19
XXIV Jan. 28, 1990 San Francisco 55, Denver 10
That's only six Superbowls in the last twenty years that have been single score games. Pointless going back any further because rule changes etc have changed the game.
2003 since there was a big score win and it is my belief that it's coming this Sunday. Yes Brees is an outstanding QB but its all offence!! The Colts will stop them and turn them over during the game for sure. I can't say the same for the Saints..
The New Orleans defence is nothing like the Jet defence and it was picked like a turkey bone!! The Saints can only hope for a huge game by a defence that is at best ok and that to coincide with a virtual collapse of the Colts attack! Ain't gonna happen people..Comment
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not liking Ireland -21, Italy are traditionally at their best in their first away game and generally beat the spread in itOriginally posted by Rekop Dog View Post"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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The Italians have regressed a bit recently and couple this with the fact Gower their fly half is nearly sure to be missing I can see us giving them a thumping in this one.Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View PostProfit before people.Comment
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???Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post
we'll be rusty and will struggle to contain them up front. I can easily see this being a frustrating afternoon for us with a scratchy 12 point win."We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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sorry I mentioned it, lol womenjockeyamentsOriginally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View Post"We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."Comment
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He is actually Ausie, convert from the Rugby league as far as I know. Don't know if he's a relation to good old David though.Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post???
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The only thing that is shown by them results is that any team who scored 30 or more won the Superbowl.Originally posted by Shogun View Post
Its not all offense, the Saints D was excellent against the pass all year. The Colts are a passing team.
Successful running teams caused must more trouble for the Saints than passing teams.
Despite all his problems Adrian Peterson ran for 122 yards and 3 touchdowns against the Saints. The Vikings were one of the better teams this year having a great D(which still gave up 31 points), one of the best running backs in the league and Brett Favre had a great season.
The Cardinals are a passing team, they couldn't get anything going against the Saints, their best player on the day was their RB Tim Hightower.
Look what they did to the Patriots, they destroyed them. The Patriots are another top passing team and not so great on the ground.
The same Patriots could and should have beaten the Colts this season. They are very similar teams.'Mental Toughness is doing the right thing for the team when it's not the best thing for you' - Bill BelichickComment
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..."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big PhilComment
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Looking at the NFL betting I think there are probably only two real stand out bets there:
Assuming the average punter here is a big game bettor, and tends to bet the Vikings/Patriots/Jets type of game I have ignored all the 'yards', 'intercepts' type of bets.
Anyway.
1. Colts -5.5 This is NFL. Teams tend to win by increments of 7. So, if the Colts win I expect it to be by 7, 10 or 14.
2. Saints outight (2.80) - If you oppose the Colts then you're better off taking the outright price than the +5.5 handicap for the same reasons as outlined above. Your 5.5 point start doesn't do much if you lose by 7, and if you win by 7 (or even 3) I'd much rather have the bigger price.Hey buddy, did ya get that thing I sent ya?Comment
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victor chandler are 10/11 -19Originally posted by Rekop Dog View Post
personally i wouldnt touch it, spread offers no value imo..Comment
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..."We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big PhilComment
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He will back all three (prob to win) but will vary the amounts on each to ensure a certain profit if any of the three win.Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide to... View PostComment
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