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How would you like this forum run - Feedback from all welcome
Hi All
The tourney forum on Boards while a great resource for all for getting information about events and for promoting events had its issues and led to some of the biggest dramas on the forum. The aim was for full transparency so that players could make an informed choice about what event to attend, hence the rigid list of criteria to promote a tournament. We have recieved some negative feedback about the running of the old tournament forum so I'd like to throw this thread open to feedback from players AND organisers about what you'd like and what we might do differently Please remember though players interests have to come number 1. We cant promise all ideas will be put in place but everything will be considered |
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Hi,
Was a fan of the rigid strucure in place for posters on the old tournament forum. Think the posting of numbers for past games (for any weekly/monthly games) should be, at the very least, encouraged as can be a major factor in deciding what game to play and will lead to less people having to post asking what kind of numbers does the SE get on a Friday, etc. Also an up-to-date thread of what games are in each casino weelky would be good. Needs to be updated more than the last one though, which should be down to each casino/club rather than you having to go check with them. Those that go more than a month out of date should be taken off the list then maybe? Cheers |
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From an organizer's perspective, I also think that the rigid criteria is necessary. Transparency is so important. Also, having the list to adhere to means that promoters won't forget to post certain things. I usually leave it up to Jp to post our games, but when I post I find it very helpful to have the list required.
With regards to updates on runners, prizepool etc., I do think organizers should do this. However, I think it should be noted that it may not happen immediately. I think people should realize that it might take a day or two for the info to be posted. I think that for up to date schedules and info for the various casinos/clubs, just one thread for each club seems like a good idea. The Voodoo and the SE do it (just two I can think of right now). And starting a new one each month, like the Voodoo have started doing, cuts down on the amount of pages someone would have to to skim through to find what they are looking for. Maybe if you could give some examples of the negative feedback, we could come up with some suggestions to make improvements. |
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The rigid format was because players were being ripped off. Turning up for games and been dumped on with crap structures and outrageous rake.
So...it's was in OUR interests. I'd like it to be the same or similar. |
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Transparency is so important........................... In respect of the number of runners, Prize pool, who made the final table & payout etc. NOW that I have found you............................................... ...... I will give this more thought as I was one of those who contributed to some of the negative feeedback on the other Poker forum. MODs if you do not want me on here just let me know........ BIGBADPAT Last edited by BigBadPat; 29-01-10 at 01:49. |
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Why wouldn't we want you on here Pat? Nothing is perfect and feedback is the only way to find things to improve.
On the results thing, I agree to a point, but trying to enforce this via bans or similar might well be counter productive. There is something we are talking over about organisers that may help in this matter, and if this happens we will let everyone know.
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As well as negative feedback from players about things like Results, etc. we also have had negative feedback from organisers who weren't happy with the strictness levels and the rigid layout and similar, we're willing to listen to everyone, our first priority will be to players obviously, but a robust discussion in here between all the parties would be very useful. And if we can make life easier for everyone then that's great IMO. Fire out any opinions you guys have don't hold back, even if it's about how we modded the last place, we may not be able to make the required changes, but if we don't know about an issue then we can't fix it. PM us even if you don't want to post it publicly. |
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I think the charter everyone had to fill out for advertising tournaments should stay but also with more info. Saying yes to every question tells us nothing.
For example the TD question should actually state who the TD is not just that there is one. Dani |
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![]() I don't want to appear on any irish poker rankings, I don't want my name listed as playing in a cash league or listing how many hours I've spent playing poker in a period. When I pay my money into a tournie I don't remember signing anything about publishing my name or agreeing to same. It's good for pros or people looking for backers to have their names associated with wins etc, and I've no problem telling poker friends how i got on in a particular event but leaving a permanent record on the internet?? ![]() Yes knowing the numbers and the prizepool is useful for people considering a game but lets remember that google is out there cataloging and maybe some people don't want that info following them. Last edited by V for Vendetta; 29-01-10 at 17:29. |
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The actual presentation of the inof required could probably be improved. Most of the complaining organisers had something to hide imo. The good organisers welcomed the rules imho. It made them stand out and considering the free advertising they got it was a very small price. |
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Hi All,
Personally I liked the charter for posting poker tournaments, as a person who used to play (some time ago now) in games where the organiser would rip the players off I think the current system helps insures transparency which is what we all want. One of the biggest problems with the boards tournie section is the site has become so popular and everyone is posting their games on the site. I've a few suggestion which I think may help. 1: I'd like a different section just for festivals. 2: Christine has already mentioned this one, but I think a monthly news thread of whats going on for the different casino's or organisers would be a good idea. |
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Results would be a good idea, not names of winners but just the payout after the event is finished. If you can't force organisors to post them up at least ask, if the bigger tournament organisors do it the rest would probably follow?
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It was more to do with the formating, us being too rigid and that kind of thing, but there's some really good suggestions coming in already, the problem with relaxing the formatting and the likes is it makes our job ALOT harder, in having to make sure everything is in the post and we'd really need the likes of BigBadPat and similar to be reporting posts and maybe even get in some more mods, it's really just not feasible to carefully read every post, expecially if this becomes as busy as boards. But we could certainly ask for more specifics if players think that is needed. So the actual logistics of the place have to come into play as well and be considered, but we'll deal with that, you guys just keep firing out the ideas. Quote:
Anyway, I'll shut up now and let you guys do some more chatting. But certainly feel free to discuss everything and anything not just the specific rules in here. |
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Results - ie number of runners and payouts - should definitely be included in a follow up post by organisers. They are well able to promote the event before time, so a few minutes after the fact is a basic courtesy.
The issue of privacy is a non-runner. Organisers only need ask the person as they're paid out winnings if it's ok to publish their name in the results. If not, 'Anon' is what's used and their privacy is protected, but we still see the payouts and the names of people who wish to be included. |
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e.g. Casino's Pub Games Festivals maybe also county based Subsections |
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I had my full name plastered on the old board a few times by unthinking organisers so i have to disagree that it's a non runner. The lads here would be assuming that organisers had permission from non posters which will not always be the case. It only takes one pissed off person or someone missing out on a job due to an employer taking a dim view for this to be a serious problem. It needs to be remembered by all posters who may be unconcerned that not everyone is in the same lucky circumstances.
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New boards featues could stop the above, the problem is alot of names can get posted in this section due to reserve list, table draws, bloggin etc although maybe anyone posting names can look at using the deadlinks that will stop google finding those names; used alot on cousin type boards a couple of other points, i think there should be one thread per club, for weekly games (like voodoo SE etc) this should be updated in a following post with prize pools and number of runners and maybe even finishing times. i think any club advertising here should be doing this. also can we get some heading and filters like what was in the theroy section of boards for this section may cut down on alot of serching. also with regard to bigger festivals being posted on here, i think one of the questions in the charter should whether there providing bloggin on the event and where they plan to post them i know there were a couple of argurments on boards over semi blogging which really pissed off people! just my taughts on the matter |
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[quote=JP Poker;3561]
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Players normally use the Live Poker Tournament Forum to decide on what games to play and therefore I am in favour of the rigid structure.
Players want transparency with consistency. Big Tournament operators should not be treated differently to small tournament operators. I think the posting of Player numbers, prize pool & payout for games (for any weekly/monthly games) should be encouraged. The charter should have a section indicating whether this will / not be done & the timescale. If these details are posted on the Casino’s own web site then it should be sufficient to state this. Also would encourage naming the people who have cashed. If shy state their respective Boards id or ANON. Having said that TDs for major Tournaments should be allowed to post outline details of Festivals etc. well in advance of their commencement date provided they state in the post the date when the full details as per the charter will be provided. This date should be before any satellites are run for the Tournaments. If the date is not met then ONE extension could be allowed before the thread is frozen. (i.e. Thread reopened when the details as per the Charter are available.) I agree with the comments that there is a need to divide the live tournament section into sub-sections for Festivals etc. |
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