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    Whopping hangover after inviting McCloskey down to portlaoise for a night out. Great night's craic. I fucked off to bed leaving my friend and mother at 1.30. Because I couldn't listen to my mother and mick fighting any longer. Mother anti gambling.. Mick telling her poker not gambling and her roaring at him that it was, it was fucking hilarious 😂 😂 😂

    He's currently snoring head off and iv work at 12, Mia can cook him breakfast
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      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
      Get in the queue. I'm still awaiting CC's tales of trips behind the Iron Curtain with the Fraternal Order of Communist Komrades. (FOCKers)
      Almost posted some photos of Ruth Coppinger playing cricket at a socialist summer camp around 1990. Decided against it.
      Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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        Not convinced the new cult of playing out from the back in soccer is as +EV as managers think. Some amount of goals conceded due to keepers dicking about at the back, when there are opposing players around, because they are brainwashed into thinking clearing their lines is bad. Some of them look OK with the ball at their feet but other look like Bambi on ice and are clearly an accident waiting to happen.

        Goals conceded vs positive opportunities created. Probably possible to get a rough idea using weightings and some stats. Get on it Hitch. The answer would be worth gazillons, money ball and all that.
        Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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          Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
          Not convinced the new cult of playing out from the back in soccer is as +EV as managers think. Some amount of goals conceded due to keepers dicking about at the back, when there are opposing players around, because they are brainwashed into thinking clearing their lines is bad. Some of them look OK with the ball at their feet but other look like Bambi on ice and are clearly an accident waiting to happen.

          Goals conceded vs positive opportunities created. Probably possible to get a rough idea using weightings and some stats. Get on it Hitch. The answer would be worth gazillons, money ball and all that.
          Needs more Jack Charlton.

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            Originally posted by rounders123 View Post
            Ortega for me.
            CageWarriors 100 on at the moment on BT and Fightpass. Dalby v Mulpeter should be a cracker.
            Quite the beatdown handed out by Max, thought it would be a bit closer than that.

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              Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
              Not convinced the new cult of playing out from the back in soccer is as +EV as managers think. Some amount of goals conceded due to keepers dicking about at the back, when there are opposing players around, because they are brainwashed into thinking clearing their lines is bad. Some of them look OK with the ball at their feet but other look like Bambi on ice and are clearly an accident waiting to happen.

              Goals conceded vs positive opportunities created. Probably possible to get a rough idea using weightings and some stats. Get on it Hitch. The answer would be worth gazillons, money ball and all that.
              When done right it's definitely the most +ev approach. Pep has pretty much dominated the last decade in football playing that way.

              Jose would have a reputation as being the better defensive manager but Peps Barca conceeded less goals every season when they were both in Spain due to Peps attack(from anywhere) is best form of defence philosophy.

              Like I think Alison made an absolute howler for Liverpool this season playing it from the back but at the same time they've only conceeded 6 goals all season and it's almost Christmas. I'd say with a lot of confidence that number would be a lot bigger if he cleared his lines every time and relinquished possession. So you're naturally gonna see more goalkeeping errors while it still being very much +ev.

              Whether this translates to less technically gifted sides is more up for debate, likes of Fulham this season have tried to adapt the total football mantra with disastrous success.
              Profit before people.

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                Beware of that 5/2 Theresa May losing party leadership in 2018 bet. It's losing party leadership and having new permanent leader appointed. May could well lose leadership but can't see both happening this year.
                Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                  Originally posted by ghostface View Post
                  Quite the beat down handed out by Max, thought it would be a bit closer than that.
                  I got that so wrong, what a performance. Boxing and movement ridiculously elite. Just didn't see that happening as Ortega looked like the new force and he did show his heart in spades to hang in which didnt help him at all.

                  Certain amount of needles machismo with corner men wanting their beaten charge to march on regardless or having so little hope. Trying to fool the doctor to let their beaten dog fight on when hes already got the pulp knocked out of him and trying to fool the doctor to let him go out to the next round for a certain further pulping seems a bit scummy. Ortega somehow survived that round and was clearly dead on his feet and to hear his corner trying to bargain with the doctor to let him go out for the last rd.

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                    Just has the air of Shrap looking down on Hitch looking down on the riots.

                    I'm aware they live in London & Rennes but using poetic licence.
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                      Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                      Beware of that 5/2 Theresa May losing party leadership in 2018 bet. It's losing party leadership and having new permanent leader appointed. May could well lose leadership but can't see both happening this year.
                      That's a misleadingly titled bet if it is indeed billed as 'Theresa May losing party leadership in 2018' so. There's no way they have time to hold a replacement contest in 2018.

                      That of course assumes she is the resigning kind, which I'm not sure she is. Say she loses the vote by 150 on Tuesday. By any normal political calculus, she would be a dead man walking but these are far from normal times....
                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                        Labour party had a huge - let's talk about anything except our incoherent position on brexit - rally denouncing Tommy Robinson.
                        Exactly the kind of publicity he is looking for. FFS!

                        Meanwhile Boris is making a play for the leadership on a ticket of withholding the 39Bn and kicking it and the backstop down the road until trade negotiations are complete.
                        Europe are certain to take that over no deal.

                        Unfuckingreal
                        Turning millions into thousands

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                          Originally posted by rounders123 View Post
                          I got that so wrong, what a performance. Boxing and movement ridiculously elite. Just didn't see that happening as Ortega looked like the new force and he did show his heart in spades to hang in which didnt help him at all.

                          Certain amount of needles machismo with corner men wanting their beaten charge to march on regardless or having so little hope. Trying to fool the doctor to let their beaten dog fight on when hes already got the pulp knocked out of him and trying to fool the doctor to let him go out to the next round for a certain further pulping seems a bit scummy. Ortega somehow survived that round and was clearly dead on his feet and to hear his corner trying to bargain with the doctor to let him go out for the last rd.

                          Originally posted by Raekwon View Post
                          His subs are absolutely insane. If he gets two hands on you, you're in serious danger.

                          He gets hit alot though I think in the cub sawson fight he was getting schooled until he landed the guillotine.

                          A fight with Max Hollaway should be a classic.
                          Max is such a beast. I just read he landed something like 130 significant strikes to the head and over 300 total. That's just incredible for MMA.

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                            Originally posted by SatNav View Post
                            Whopping hangover after inviting McCloskey down to portlaoise for a night out. Great night's craic. I fucked off to bed leaving my friend and mother at 1.30. Because I couldn't listen to my mother and mick fighting any longer. Mother anti gambling.. Mick telling her poker not gambling and her roaring at him that it was, it was fucking hilarious 😂 😂
                            SatNav hits the sack early while McCloskey goes deep into the night???
                            You've changed girl!!!

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                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                ...
                                "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                  Originally posted by Wombatman View Post
                                  Not convinced the new cult of playing out from the back in soccer is as +EV as managers think. Some amount of goals conceded due to keepers dicking about at the back, when there are opposing players around, because they are brainwashed into thinking clearing their lines is bad. Some of them look OK with the ball at their feet but other look like Bambi on ice and are clearly an accident waiting to happen.

                                  Goals conceded vs positive opportunities created. Probably possible to get a rough idea using weightings and some stats. Get on it Hitch. The answer would be worth gazillons, money ball and all that.
                                  When I was at the Crusaders they did this very thing for rugby, a canadian mathematician analysed every phase in the history of super rugby from the 30m line back to end goal. Plotted out heat maps, came up with an EV scale basically for kicking in each 5m squared quadrants. There were big swings whether kicking from left vs right, the type of kick and number of phases played before hand

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                                    Originally posted by Trippie View Post
                                    When I was at the Crusaders they did this very thing for rugby, a canadian mathematician analysed every phase in the history of super rugby from the 30m line back to end goal. Plotted out heat maps, came up with an EV scale basically for kicking in each 5m squared quadrants. There were big swings whether kicking from left vs right, the type of kick and number of phases played before hand
                                    I suspect games with a larger amount of closed skills are far easier to quantify whereas games such as soccer and probably rugby to a lesser extent is harder to quantify.

                                    I imagine rugby is easier to quantify than soccer as place kicking contributes a relatively large proportion of the overall points and that skill is somewhat closed.
                                    However, games such as basketball and baseball are far easier to quantify given the amount of games means variance tends diminish pretty quickly and they have some even more closed skills, free throws being a great example, proximity to the rim, height of the rim, weather all equal.

                                    I'd love to see what variables are used by some of the top firms in modelling soccer and rugby.

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                                      Never seen this lateral passing thing actual working before.
                                      Shame it had to be against the Patriots.

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                                        Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
                                        Never seen this lateral passing thing actual working before.
                                        Shame it had to be against the Patriots.
                                        Always think those type of plays seem criminally underutilised in American football and usually only used in desperate dieing moments.
                                        Profit before people.

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                                          Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                          Always think those type of plays seem criminally underutilised in American football and usually only used in desperate dieing moments.
                                          Totally agree with this. Some real creativity creeping in to set plays from line of scrimmage lately but very little intuition used down the field where a ball carrying runner would rather run into three defenders rather that pass it off to a wide open team mate.
                                          Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                            You're both horrifically wrong.

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                                              Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                              You're both horrifically wrong.
                                              Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. ~Eleanor Roosevelt

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                                                That article is after a turnover. Where a play has broken down and has no structure. Often a defence will try get it into their best playmakers hands to run it back. They can't really plan to do it effectively and more than one pass is attempted it usually turns into a circus because every player is running top speed on both sides of the ball.

                                                And as for the offense. That play should be left for the end of a game in order to extend the last play of the game to score.

                                                Today won't be known as the miracle in Miami for nothing.

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                                                  I can't think of a logical reason why it's not used at least a bit more often. You'd regularly see players run down a dark hole instead of god forbid making a simple lateral handoff to a team mate in space.

                                                  Perhaps there's such focus on turnover/ interception stats that it's deeply bred into the psyche to be over cautious with ball and thus preventing more adventures plays to flourish. That and you have to wait about 20 thousand ad breaks to get the ball back.
                                                  Profit before people.

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                                                    Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                                    Perhaps there's such focus on turnover/ interception stats that it's deeply bred into the psyche to be over cautious with ball and thus preventing more adventures plays to flourish.
                                                    This for sure.

                                                    You're both just thinking of home run plays. They don't 'have' to happen all too often. If you broke clear and had two men beside you. You'd be better off having them clear out what's in front of you for the best chance to score. Rather than lateral and get killed by a linebacker.

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                                                      I think the Juju lateral at the end of the Steelers game is a good example of a play that could be run with massive success. Not very often but it should be used more often than a pure Hail Mary

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                                                        Have a bit of a weird one, thinking someone here might know for sure otherwise will be heading to a lawyer for advice.

                                                        My workplace was sold in the not too distant past, and the people who bought us are keeping everyone on with the same contracts(we will have to sign these contracts, but the wording is the exact same) doing the same job just getting paid from the new company.

                                                        I am, however, going to receive a p45 in about a weeks time along with the new contract to sign. I'm going to take my time to sign the contract, as I want to be negotiating and such but I was always under the impression that if you get a p45 in this situation that you would get paid redundancy but the head honchos are saying no.

                                                        Anything that can be done here?

                                                        I know the new company and the likely new manager coming in, and I am not a fan of the operation so I think I will be out the door and I want some redundancy!
                                                        Go big or go homeless.

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                                                          The company taking over are bound by Transfer of Undertakings legislation which means that your current employment rights are preserved under the new owners (ie length of service, T&C's etc). There is no entitlement to redundancy.

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                                                            Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                            That's a misleadingly titled bet if it is indeed billed as 'Theresa May losing party leadership in 2018' so. There's no way they have time to hold a replacement contest in 2018.

                                                            That of course assumes she is the resigning kind, which I'm not sure she is. Say she loses the vote by 150 on Tuesday. By any normal political calculus, she would be a dead man walking but these are far from normal times....
                                                            Tuesday vote called off according to many sources.
                                                            Should be a resigning matter, but probably just a 'let me be clear, nothing has changed, red white and blue, strong and stable' speech on loop.

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                                                              Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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                                                                Originally posted by ArmaniJeans View Post
                                                                Tuesday vote called off according to many sources.
                                                                Should be a resigning matter, but probably just a 'let me be clear, nothing has changed, red white and blue, strong and stable' speech on loop.
                                                                Such an epic disaster.

                                                                It would be hilarious, if not so serious.
                                                                "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                  Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Gimmeabreak
                                                                    You've got your info from The Istanbul but as a rule of thumb go to Citizens Information Centre rather than a solicitor for this type of scenario.
                                                                    This is 100% correct
                                                                    You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
                                                                    World Record Holder for Long Distance Soul Reads: May 7th 2011

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                                                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                      Such an epic disaster.

                                                                      It would be hilarious, if not so serious.
                                                                      What I've heard over the weekend is mostky 'backstop is Europe screwing us over' and' they will use it to stop us ever leaving'
                                                                      Questioned in return as to what arrangements they would put in place to resolve the border without a border conundrum I'm meet with a blank stare and an attitude of you're just trying to block is having the brexit we voted for.
                                                                      Unless they can organize a referendum there gets a 65%+ remain vote and a popular government that wants to embrace europe they are going to be tearing themselves apart for at least another decade.
                                                                      Turning millions into thousands

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                                                                        Originally posted by Gimmeabreak
                                                                        You've got your info from The Istanbul but as a rule of thumb go to Citizens Information Centre rather than a solicitor for this type of scenario.
                                                                        Cheers, lawyer didn't feel right so this info is very useful.
                                                                        Go big or go homeless.

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                                                                          Case arrived.
                                                                          Have drawn fancy labels on scattered bottles of ribena around the house.



                                                                          SPOILER
                                                                          I'm going to have one tonight
                                                                          People say I should be more humble I hope they understand, they don't listen when you mumble
                                                                          Get a shiny metal Revolut card! And a free tenner!
                                                                          https://revolut.com/referral/jamesb8!G10D21

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                                                                            Obligatory Beschoffs check in.

                                                                            Decided for a sneaky one on the way back to the office.
                                                                            You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
                                                                            World Record Holder for Long Distance Soul Reads: May 7th 2011

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                                                                              "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                Originally posted by Kayroo View Post
                                                                                Obligatory Beschoffs check in.

                                                                                Decided for a sneaky one on the way back to the office.
                                                                                Going this evening myself. Top nosh

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                                                                                  Originally posted by dobby View Post
                                                                                  Going this evening myself. Top nosh
                                                                                  Staff excellent. Food brilliant.

                                                                                  Basically started my Xmas there.
                                                                                  You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
                                                                                  World Record Holder for Long Distance Soul Reads: May 7th 2011

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                                                                                    Is there a "c" in Bes(c)hoffs?

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                                                      Is there a "c" in Bes(c)hoffs?
                                                                                      Nope. That's entirely my error.
                                                                                      You are technically correct...the best kind of correct
                                                                                      World Record Holder for Long Distance Soul Reads: May 7th 2011

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                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                          It just beggars belief how badly the UK is messing up. Like it's pure madness.
                                                                                          Sure, I've been telling you this for two years!

                                                                                          They collectively decided to believe in a fairytale, sold by charlatans and greedily consumed by the kind of idiots that use Facebook.
                                                                                          "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                            It just beggars belief how badly the UK is messing up. Like it's pure madness.
                                                                                            I'm half expecting the Queen to abdicate out of embarrassment.
                                                                                            Gone full 'Glinner' since June 2022.

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                                                                                              Just unfriended Raoul there on FB.


                                                                                              UKIP is such a great name . We are all deffo on the Truman show these past few years .

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                                                                                                Originally posted by mdoug View Post
                                                                                                Have a bit of a weird one, thinking someone here might know for sure otherwise will be heading to a lawyer for advice.

                                                                                                My workplace was sold in the not too distant past, and the people who bought us are keeping everyone on with the same contracts(we will have to sign these contracts, but the wording is the exact same) doing the same job just getting paid from the new company.

                                                                                                I am, however, going to receive a p45 in about a weeks time along with the new contract to sign. I'm going to take my time to sign the contract, as I want to be negotiating and such but I was always under the impression that if you get a p45 in this situation that you would get paid redundancy but the head honchos are saying no.

                                                                                                Anything that can be done here?

                                                                                                I know the new company and the likely new manager coming in, and I am not a fan of the operation so I think I will be out the door and I want some redundancy!
                                                                                                You're getting TUPE'd.


                                                                                                If they are changing the terms of your employment then you have grounds for asking for unfair dismissal, if the offer is the same as previous then not so much. If you refuse to sign the new contract that's on the same terms as before you're effectively resigning.
                                                                                                Is that how you crash a wedding? yes it is, Bionic Barry, yes it is.

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                                                                                                  Mate had Richarlison/Stuani FGS double for €1k. Both scored but Stuani's was disallowed by VAR yet he still got paid. What happens there??

                                                                                                  Edit - match still showing as 0-0 at HT on bet365 yet it says (Stuani 19) underneath.
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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                                                                    Mate had Richarlison/Stuani FGS double for €1k. Both scored but Stuani's was disallowed by VAR yet he still got paid. What happens there??

                                                                                                    Edit - match still showing as 0-0 at HT on bet365 yet it says (Stuani 19) underneath.
                                                                                                    Did he withdraw? Nothing will happen if so I'd imagine.

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Silver-Tiger View Post
                                                                                                      Did he withdraw? Nothing will happen if so I'd imagine.
                                                                                                      He withdrew there at HT.

                                                                                                      Still showing up that he scored after 19 mins even though match is 0-0. They hardly have some weird thing or special about FPP for disallowed VAR goals or something?

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dice75 View Post
                                                                                                        He withdrew there at HT.

                                                                                                        Still showing up that he scored after 19 mins even though match is 0-0. They hardly have some weird thing or special about FPP for disallowed VAR goals or something?
                                                                                                        Probably just an operations rick I'd imagine. They'll cancel his withdrawal or put him in neg balance(if processed) once corrected.

                                                                                                        VAR is the ultimate leveler for betting companies.
                                                                                                        Profit before people.

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                                                                                                          ...Boring last 6 minutes in Everton match, just the two goals and missed penalty...

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                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                                                                                            Probably just an operations rick I'd imagine. They'll cancel his withdrawal or put him in neg balance(if processed) once corrected.

                                                                                                            VAR is the ultimate leveler for betting companies.
                                                                                                            Yep, minus €800.93

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                                                                                                              The Jeremy Thorpe story starting on bbc 4 now is terrific TV
                                                                                                              Turning millions into thousands

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                                                                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                                It just beggars belief how badly the UK is messing up. Like it's pure madness.
                                                                                                                Its hard to understand from a country that conducts its parliament in such a sensible and logical manner as this.

                                                                                                                The Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle picked up the mace and walked with it over the line, where he was stopped by two female serjeant at arms staff. He put up no resistance as he was stopped and handed over the mace.
                                                                                                                The parliamentary mace symbolises royal authority. Without it the house can neither meet nor pass laws.

                                                                                                                The mace is silver gilt and just over five feet long. Every day it is carried into the chamber by the serjeant at arms, where it is normally placed on the table of the house.
                                                                                                                Tory MPs screamed: “Expel him” and “Name him” as the Speaker, John Bercow, rose to his feet. Bercow said:
                                                                                                                "By the power given to me by standing order number 43 and I think [Russell-Moyle] will know the implication of his action, I must order [him] to withdraw immediately from the house for the remainder of this day’s sitting. Mr Russell-Moyle please leave the chamber."

                                                                                                                Russell-Moyle later said he acted “on the spur of the moment” because of his frustration MPs were not being listened to. Speaking from the Red Lion pub just outside Parliament, the Labour MP said:
                                                                                                                "The symbolic gesture of lifting the mace and removing it is that the will of Parliament to govern is no longer there has been removed.
                                                                                                                I felt Parliament had effectively given up its sovereign right to govern properly. They stopped me before I got out of the Chamber and I wasn’t going to struggle with someone wearing a huge sword on their hip."

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                                                                                                                  When did Saoirse Ronan develop that How'rya Dub accent?

                                                                                                                  I thought she was from Carlow
                                                                                                                  Turning millions into thousands

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                                                                                                                    If this doesn't warm you, you are dead inside

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                                                                                                                      "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                                        When did Saoirse Ronan develop that How'rya Dub accent?

                                                                                                                        I thought she was from Carlow
                                                                                                                        People have been giving out about it for the last couple of years.

                                                                                                                        Find it bizarre, she's been travelling the world pretending to be other people since she was a teenager. You're bound to end up with a mess of an accent. 19 year olds spend a summer in San Diego and come back sounding ridiculous

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Ed View Post
                                                                                                                          People have been giving out about it for the last couple of years.

                                                                                                                          Find it bizarre, she's been travelling the world pretending to be other people since she was a teenager. You're bound to end up with a mess of an accent. 19 year olds spend a summer in San Diego and come back sounding ridiculous
                                                                                                                          That makes sense. Maybe I'd never heard her speak off screen before, I heard her in the background on TV news and thought she was putting it on.
                                                                                                                          Turning millions into thousands

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