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Old Today, 09:11   #64061
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David Milliband being the obvious choice. But whether he would come back is another issue. All the key opponents to Corbyn on the Blair side seem very old.
Until they rid themselves of Momentum, they're fucked.

The Brits took a long hard look at a Labour Party hijacked by student union Trotskyite types and, with a fairly unappealing alternative, rejected them soundly. Sensibly imo. It's the 21st century.
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Old Today, 09:23   #64062
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Until they rid themselves of Momentum, they're fucked.

The Brits took a long hard look at a Labour Party hijacked by student union Trotskyite types and, with a fairly unappealing alternative, rejected them soundly. Sensibly imo. It's the 21st century.
Thats the thing I don't get about the Irish Green Party. They're clearly this same over-excited student Trotskyite group with a small cover of 'being green'. Witness everything any Green candidate says like that near-MEP from Achill. Yet smart people seem to be overlooking that and voting for them.

I suspect no new voters have actually looked at their economic policies. They are absolutely bonkers and would make Rich Boy Barrett blush with their extreme leftist ambitions.

It's a problem as the most realistic progressive grouping in the country is probably a mix of FG-Lab, and the types of people who are switching to Greens are natural voters for that grouping.

Would be great if there was a genuine green party, but the Irish one ain't that, its momentum in disguise.
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Social media would have had you expecting a landslide labour
Depends completely on where you are reading. Read facebook groups of people in the UK, all you get is hate for Corbyn. Nothing about Tories or Labour, people just didn't like Corbyn. IRA this, terrorist that. And these votes should be a doddle, I'm reading the same thing on vegan groups, for a guy that campaigned for animals since the 80s.
Him visiting a grave is more important to the average person than policy.

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This probably the biggest factor
People going door to door for labour said the same as above, all they got was hate for Corbyn when talking to people, nothing about policies, views, brexit, ant-semitism. People just didn't want to vote for him.

The media had quite some effect in that obv.

As well as a man that didn't want to lie to say his personal stance was remain, so took no stance at all, it just looks bad even though it is understandable that he is honoring his views.



Anyway, rebuild the Hadrian wall, make Boris pay for it!!!
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