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Old 11-07-12, 01:00   #1
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Slow rolling

As the title suggests i got slow rolled, and this one was a doozy!
I open shoved 13k( i had 600 chips more than him) in on a flop of kt2 of diamonds, with a what i thought was a bluff with a pair of tens. The person to call hums and haws about it for a good 20-30 seconds, talking to himself, holds his cards in the air, moves as if to fold, moves his chips as if there is a decision. And then says i have to call and shows a6dd.
The whole table is stunned and the pot is shipped to him.
Naturally steaming, i flip out and ask what were you thinking??! He gives some BS story which im not really interested in, but says " i did it because.........". I get up and steam off at the break, only to be told by other people before he was moved to the table he did some move knowingly out of turn to force people out of the pot.
Poker is supposed to be a game of good sportsmanship, nh, gg, wp etc..., but can you ever enforce rulings that knowingly break good ethics? There are unwritten rules in the game, but should some be actually written to prevent assholes like these from getting their ''fun'', because I see no need for it.
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Old 11-07-12, 01:19   #2
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Poker is supposed to be a game of good sportsmanship, nh, gg, wp etc....
It's not really, it's mostly full of arseholes as above. Pity. People are cunts.
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Old 11-07-12, 01:37   #3
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its horrible alright, a few years ago i was playing a tourney and completed the blinds with A5h.
Flop came down 238 with 2 hearts. Bet and a call. Turn comes brick with check bet call. River comes 2 of hearts. Bet, shove, with the shove less than the pot. Im happy to call and flip the flush.
Guy hmmms and haaas to turn round and give it the old DelBoy line of "Ive only got 2 pair" I dont cop on and go to claim the pot until he tables pocket dueces! And the idiot busts out laughing!
Some at the table laugh, but not with him,they laugh with amazement. Even the dealer shook his head.

I wouldnt mind but Im one of the people who no matter what im thinking will say NH even if dogged.
I bust him 3 levels later FWIW.
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Old 11-07-12, 01:43   #4
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Actual hand descriptions are not really needed, i was just wondering SHOULD rules be written to prevent any of this BS from happening?
People always say he is not breaking any rules in doing this action, but its still mega-poor form. Why not stop it from happening in the first place, and if it does happen penalise them for doing it.
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Old 11-07-12, 01:46   #5
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Old 11-07-12, 02:17   #6
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before he was moved to the table he did some move knowingly out of turn to force people out of the pot.
I'm more than happy to let some play out of turn on purpose.

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Actual hand descriptions are not really needed, i was just wondering SHOULD rules be written to prevent any of this BS from happening?
People always say he is not breaking any rules in doing this action, but its still mega-poor form. Why not stop it from happening in the first place, and if it does happen penalise them for doing it.
How exactly would you word a rule against it?
It's impossible.
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Old 11-07-12, 02:25   #7
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After the epic slowroll did he stand up and shout "are ya well?" In his finest dundalk accent?
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Old 11-07-12, 02:26   #8
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broken english and something along the lines of '' are ya well'' in his own eastern european slang. And a nice grin to add insult to injury

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Old 11-07-12, 02:38   #9
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How exactly would you word a rule against it?
It's impossible.
your a horrible human being, 3 round penalty, simples
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...cuz yore lookin' well.
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your a horrible human being
Excuse me? Have I done some thing to offend you are are you just emotional.

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3 round penalty, simples
It appears you don't understand my post. I didn't ask what the penalty was, I asked what the rule was. "No slowrolling" doesn't work as its entirely subjective. Also a round penalty is fairly useless in a cash game so what then.
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Could.give it one of.these afterwards too

I shoved nut flush recently on flop and guy tanked and announced I know you have the flush but I have two pair and am going for the full house so I call. Obv got there
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Old 11-07-12, 03:02   #13
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he should have tanked for another couple of minutes or at least asked you "do you have a good hand" or something
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he should have tanked for another couple of minutes or at least asked you "do you have a good hand" or something
Or asked for a count.then called the clock on himself
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Excuse me? Have I done some thing to offend you are are you just emotional.
My apologies, my bad attempt at humor, i.e. 3 round penalty because your a bad human being etc.

As for enforcing, i do agree it is tricky to enforce, but i am of the opinion that something should be done about it. Im not acting like its a epidemic or anything but i do feel that it is a really scummy thing to do, and i think that it should be tackled along with other moves that might be considered scummy as well.

I like to think its nice to be nice, sadly the world doesnt work that way and innocence can taken advantage of, but I really disapprove of people who like to implement bad ethics.
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Excuse me? Have I done some thing to offend you are are you just emotional.
Nobody really likes you after you failed to turn up to the ipb event, just give it some time
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My apologies, my bad attempt at humor, i.e. 3 round penalty because your a bad human being etc.
Ah, i get you now.

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As for enforcing, i do agree it is tricky to enforce, but i am of the opinion that something should be done about it. Im not acting like its a epidemic or anything but i do feel that it is a really scummy thing to do, and i think that it should be tackled along with other moves that might be considered scummy as well.

I like to think its nice to be nice, sadly the world doesnt work that way and innocence can taken advantage of, but I really disapprove of people who like to implement bad ethics.
Pricks will always be pricks. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Its too hard to draw a line as to who is being a prick on purpose and who's just an idiot.

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Scapegoat obv.
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he should have tanked for another couple of minutes or at least asked you "do you have a good hand" or something
Or "do you have a good holding", I think would work quite nicely.

Also, "will you show me if I fold".
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Should have said he had a 'blue'.
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Old 14-07-12, 21:21   #20
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nothing like a good slowroll

i remember a hand with john o shea and the medic in the fitz omaha game

all the money went in on monotone flop, the turn brought straight and river brought
running spades (non pairage)

pot was around 5 or 6 k

medic excitedly declares straight

o shea flips over the chopped straight waits for a few moments and slides over a card
to reveal the q hi flush

the medic nodded in resignation looked at the board again wistfully, nodded again then with a sneaky grin slid over one of his cards to reveal the k hi flush


there was a big crowd around the table drawn by the action and the place erupted
great craic

great acting by the medic, he had anticipated from the start

good for the game imo
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