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Old 22-08-12, 00:02   #1
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Raise??

Blinds 600/1200 .
Utg limps in ,
mp makes it 3600
Btn goes all in for 5k
Both blinds fold .

Can utg reraise ??
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Old 22-08-12, 00:04   #2
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Yes, the shove isn't an under raise to him.
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Old 22-08-12, 01:11   #3
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Yes, the shove isn't an under raise to him.
but the all in is an under raise to the original raise....i presumed that you cant raise an under raise....we had this in local game a few weeks back but were still none the wiser...
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Old 22-08-12, 01:29   #4
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Blinds 600/1200 .
Utg limps in ,
mp makes it 3600
Btn goes all in for 5k
Both blinds fold .

Can utg reraise ??
I've seen it ruled both ways. Depends on whether the raise is considered as 3600 or 2400. in reality its 2400 so 5000 not an under raise.
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Old 22-08-12, 01:38   #5
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Depends .
Nope.

To the utg player, he has put in 1200, bet is now 5000, he has full options available to him, fold/call/raise.

Now if utg flats the 5000, player B may only flat call also.
Now that is where the under-raise situation can apply.
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Old 26-08-12, 13:53   #6
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Nope.

To the utg player, he has put in 1200, bet is now 5000, he has full options available to him, fold/call/raise.

Now if utg flats the 5000, player B may only flat call also.
Now that is where the under-raise situation can apply.
yep. Misread that. Utg has all options
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Old 26-08-12, 14:28   #7
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Ive also seen it ruled both ways . I suppose it's down to local rule then
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Old 26-08-12, 18:45   #8
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Ive also seen it ruled both ways . I suppose it's down to local rule then
The same kind of misguided 'local rules' which do not allow check-raising and deem a mono-suited 5 card board to be a split pot regardless of suits in players' hands.

If utg is not allowed to reraise here, just smile, say thanks for the game and never play there again. What else are they getting wrong?
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Old 27-08-12, 20:07   #9
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The same kind of misguided 'local rules' which do not allow check-raising and deem a mono-suited 5 card board to be a split pot regardless of suits in players' hands.

If utg is not allowed to reraise here, just smile, say thanks for the game and never play there again. What else are they getting wrong?
Care to elaborate
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Old 27-08-12, 20:13   #10
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I think in short he is saying this 'local rule' is bullshit and has no basis in poker. Honestly if clubs are making up their own rules I would never play in that place again
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