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    The villain seems tightish, not an idiot - but not a great player.

    Big hands we have played recently, fish limps on button. He raises from sb, I flat AJs on BB, fish calls. Flop is J25. He bets I call, fish folds. Turn blank, he shoves I call. He has QQ and wins.

    Loads of small hands then he he raises SB against my BB. I call with J9o. The flop is TTJ, he bets I call. Turn blank, he bets I call. River blank he bets, I think and call. He has A8o

    Anyway, on to the hand.

    2 limpers, he raises from cutoff. I make it 5 from button, he calls. 1 Everyone else folds.

    Flop is AK7, two clubs. I have the ace of clubs.

    He donk bets 7. I make it 21 - he calls. I have never seen him donk before, don't really know what it means.

    Turn is a club. So I have two pair, but there's a possible flush. I have the Ace of that suit, he checks, I check. Who shoves here?

    River is a 7, for AK77x

    There's just over 50 in the pot and a little under that in the stacks.

    He checks, I?


    Does anyone smooth call the donk bet?

    #2
    His lead on the flop is wierd and you rarely see people lead in 3b pots so Its hard to assign a leading range here. I still raise though as Its so likely we have the best hand and want to get the money in asap.


    When he checks the river I think were good here nearly always. Id expect him to shove all his flushes/7s so It seems like a trivial shove.

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      #3
      I raise the donk bet almsot always.
      I prob bet the turn also. He pays off a lot here. And if you still have 11 outs vrs a made flush.

      As played. I think we can lead the river. Smaller aces expectign to chop with the paired board, kick kicker etc.
      I don't imagine he often checks a set/house/flush after the turn was checked back.

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        #4
        Think i'd play it the same and check back river now- partly for info on his donk betting range and partly because although we have the best hand a lot i don't expect to be ahead of his calling range(flushes/houses/quads/AK imo). Given that you view him as tightish I dont think he'll call river for a full buy-in with Ax to bluff catch or chop. And donking something like AJ or whatever would be kind of weird anyway

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          #5
          Result, I shoved on the river and he tank called with A8o. (!)

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            #6
            I think psycologically people hate giving up choped pots. The K77 is a great board for you to get paid off by A8 type hands, even though his BE% is v.high at c.66% for a pot bet.

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              #7
              Played perfectly. I like the turn check in position. We are not afraid of any river. Have to shove river, we always have the best hand.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mellor View Post
                I think psycologically people hate giving up choped pots. The K77 is a great board for you to get paid off by A8 type hands, even though his BE% is v.high at c.66% for a pot bet.
                I don't think a player of this calibre is thinking about me trying to fold out a player from a chopped pot. Possibly I suppose.

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                  #9
                  HJ can you tell why your checking behind on the turn?
                  to me it looks like alot of value missed!

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                    #10
                    Because the turn completes the flush draw which is in both of our ranges. Also there is less than a pot bet left to go in, there's no need to build the pot.

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                      #11
                      so you only ever bet a flush there or air?

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                        #12
                        @Gholimoli Extracting value is obviously our prime concern with a hand as strong as 2P, but simply extracting value street by street, though +EV, may not be optimal in certain situations according to opponents tendencies/runout/texture/stacks/diminishing hand strength/etc. Adjusting your intended line based on these factors is pretty important. We dont get to the turn with a very wide range so betting just looks super strong and loses value from everything, checking back makes sense. Attempting to balance an already thin range in such a specific spot is pointless
                        "c'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gholimoli View Post
                          so you only ever bet a flush there or air?
                          I don't think I would bet air there, maybe semi bluff the Kc. I wouldn't necessarily bet a flush either.

                          It keeps coming up in threads where people are trying to find out if I, or the OP, have a balanced range. The only time I try to even pretend I have a balanced range is against good regular opponents in common spots.

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