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    the football drawy thingy

    I'm going to record my football draw bets this season to see if I can make a profit out of it
    5 draws each weekend bet on trebles and upwards so total of 16 bets. 1e per bet, bankroll for this of 200e so should get christmas out of it

    week 1
    Barnsley vrs Watford
    Sheffield utd vrs Colchester
    Stevenage vrs Notts county
    Walsall vrs Scunthorpe
    Torquay vrs Rotherham

    possible returns 1392e
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    #2
    Originally posted by Loopz View Post
    I'm going to record my football draw bets this season to see if I can make a profit out of it
    5 draws each weekend bet on trebles and upwards so total of 16 bets. 1e per bet, bankroll for this of 200e so should get christmas out of it

    week 1
    Barnsley vrs Watford 1-1
    Sheffield utd vrs Colchester 3-0
    Stevenage vrs Notts county 0-2
    Walsall vrs Scunthorpe 2-2
    Torquay vrs Rotherham 3-3

    possible returns 1392e
    a nice start to the log with a small profit to show from it, I wasn't happy with the sheff utd bet but I have to go with the system I would have liked to have stuck villa as it was a good shout for a draw but if I fuck with my system in the first week there would be no point continuing

    BR now 219.39e
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      #3
      Is it your own system?
      ''Any change is resisted because bureaucrats have a vested interest in the chaos in which they exist.'' - Richard Nixon

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        #4
        Originally posted by JackBurton View Post
        Is it your own system?
        I'd be very surprised if other people aren't doing it or something very similar but yeah its my own. i used to do this bet all the time about 5/6 years ago , I'd say for about 2 seasons missing some weeks due to lazyness or fa cup etc. I Binked the 5 draws once for a nice payday and got up trebles maybe once every 2-4 weeks, but I never got 4 results right. Now that I've got a bit of a roll online and don't have to go to the shop each week I'll be doing a bet most if not every week so it would be nice to have some sort of record of my strike rate.
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          #5
          Colchester v Walsall
          Huddersfield v Leyton Orient not too confident about this one
          Scunthorpe v Yeovil
          Oxford Utd v Accrington Stanley
          Shrewsbury v Torquay


          pos returns 1771.79e
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            #6
            did a 20p lucky 31 on this for an interest so good luck with it

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              #7
              2/5 and the other games were close enough, will be following this more closely now

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                #8
                Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                Colchester v Walsall 1-0
                Huddersfield v Leyton Orient 2-2
                Scunthorpe v Yeovil 2-1
                Oxford Utd v Accrington Stanley 1-1
                Shrewsbury v Torquay 2-0


                pos returns 1771.79e
                no scoopage this week

                chuffed with the O's result i didn't fancy it with huddersfield riding high and the O's not to hot but 2 goals in the last 5 mins get them the draw, pity another team couldn't step up roll on next week

                br 203.39e
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                  #9
                  Barnsley v Coventry
                  Millwall v Burnley
                  Brentford v Huddersfield
                  Stevenage v Scunthorpe
                  Accrington Stanley v Aldershot


                  pos returns 1311.11e
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                    #10
                    glgl

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                      Barnsley v Coventry
                      Millwall v Burnley
                      Brentford v Huddersfield
                      Stevenage v Scunthorpe
                      Accrington Stanley v Aldershot


                      pos returns 1311.11e
                      loopz dont really do a lot of betting but gong stick a fiver onthis for the craic. are the 1s on the left all to win.

                      never mind just seen the op
                      http://www.sitnpoker.com/?amigosid=18

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ziggin&Zaggin View Post
                        loopz dont really do a lot of betting but gong stick a fiver onthis for the craic. are the 1s on the left all to win?
                        All draws...thread "the football drawy thingy"
                        Thinkin about it myself too nice returns if it comes in or close
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                          #13
                          Trebles and up, a euro on each? do you do these bets individually? or is there a name for doing it ie lucky 15 etc??

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JohnOB View Post
                            Trebles and up, a euro on each? do you do these bets individually? or is there a name for doing it ie lucky 15 etc??
                            if your placing online pick the 5 draws and the stick 1e on the accum 1e in the 4fold box and 1e in the trebles box.
                            if in a shop write out the 5 picks on a docket and put all to draw
                            10 x 1e trebles
                            5 x 1e 4-fold
                            1e accum

                            no special name for it
                            you could also put on docket full cover trebles and upwards
                            just remember there is 16 bets so if they don't take for 16 bets chances are they will dispute it if/when it comes in
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                              #15
                              Cheers mate, was just looking for an easy way to do it, usually i just stick a 5er on 3 draws @33/1 with pp but im liking your way. Going to copy your bet for tonight

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                Barnsley v Coventry 2-0
                                Millwall v Burnley 0-1
                                Brentford v Huddersfield 0-4
                                Stevenage v Scunthorpe 1-2
                                Accrington Stanley v Aldershot 3-2
                                pretty shitty weekend
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                                  #17
                                  looking to bounce back into profit
                                  br before bet 187.39e

                                  Middlesbrough v Millwall
                                  Portsmouth v Barnsley
                                  Rochdale v Colchester
                                  Hereford v Bradford
                                  Torquay v Gillingham

                                  pos returns 1376.45e
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                    looking to bounce back into profit
                                    br before bet 187.39e

                                    Middlesbrough v Millwall
                                    Portsmouth v Barnsley
                                    Rochdale v Colchester
                                    Hereford v Bradford
                                    Torquay v Gillingham

                                    pos returns 1376.45e
                                    2 nicely priced draws this week, break even I presume?
                                    what is your criteria for picking the games?
                                    Go big or go homeless.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                      looking to bounce back into profit
                                      br before bet 187.39e

                                      Middlesbrough v Millwall 1-1
                                      Portsmouth v Barnsley 2-0
                                      Rochdale v Colchester 2-2
                                      Hereford v Bradford 2-0
                                      Torquay v Gillingham 2-5

                                      pos returns 1376.45e

                                      br 176.39e

                                      Originally posted by mdoug View Post
                                      2 nicely priced draws this week, break even I presume?
                                      what is your criteria for picking the games?
                                      na I'm only backing trebles and upwards, I'd would need to nearly double my stake to include the 15 doubles or half the value of each bet to do this. I can't afford to back this for 31e per week and I don't mind losing a few quid by not backing doubles to keep it at 1e per bet for the bigger payout for when i bink the 5 results.
                                      Last edited by Loopz; 17-10-11, 21:24. Reason: br
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                                        #20
                                        some good priced draws this week so would be nice to get some returns

                                        Cardiff v Barnsley
                                        Leicester v Millwall
                                        Middlesbrough v Derby
                                        MK Dons v Scunthorpe
                                        Tranmere v Walsall

                                        poss returns 1678.79e
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Loopz View Post

                                          Cardiff v Barnsley 5-3
                                          Leicester v Millwall 0-3
                                          Middlesbrough v Derby 2-0
                                          MK Dons v Scunthorpe 0-0
                                          Tranmere v Walsall 2-1
                                          Yeovil Town - Huddersfield
                                          Scunthorpe - Tranmere
                                          Rochdale - Leyton Orient
                                          Colchester - Notts County
                                          Southampton - Middlesbrough

                                          pos returns €1580.60


                                          br €144.39
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                            Yeovil Town - Huddersfield 0-1
                                            Scunthorpe - Tranmere 4-2
                                            Rochdale - Leyton Orient 0-2
                                            Colchester - Notts County 4-2
                                            Southampton - Middlesbrough 3-0


                                            ugly
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                                              #23
                                              Brighton v Barnsley
                                              Bournemouth v Scunthorpe
                                              Huddersfield v Walsall sigh
                                              MK Dons v Rochdale
                                              Tranmere v Colchester

                                              pos returns €2114.13

                                              br €128.39
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                                a nice start to the log with a small profit to show from it, I wasn't happy with the sheff utd bet but I have to go with the system I would have liked to have stuck villa as it was a good shout for a draw but if I fuck with my system in the first week there would be no point continuing

                                                BR now 219.39e
                                                Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                                Brighton v Barnsley
                                                Bournemouth v Scunthorpe
                                                Huddersfield v Walsall sigh
                                                MK Dons v Rochdale
                                                Tranmere v Colchester

                                                pos returns €2114.13

                                                br €128.39
                                                Are you still going with "the" system? Just wondering what it is? It's just a couple of these home teams look like winners to me ...

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                                                  #25
                                                  yeah huddersfield looks like a home banker
                                                  mkdons isn't far off a banker either but its a funny ould game
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                                    yeah huddersfield looks like a home banker
                                                    mkdons isn't far off a banker either but its a funny ould game
                                                    Yep and I think Tranmere will bounce back from last weeks loss as well. Definitely fancy the overs in that game.

                                                    gl with it anyway ... I'm waiting for the big bink

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                                                      #27
                                                      What are the criteria for choosing the games that you choose? I don't think you have mentioned it and you seem to be betting on games you believe are home bankers, so what is compelling you towards certain games?

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                                                        #28
                                                        It's not exactly rocket science seeing the criteria he uses for picks. Look at league table of teams he picks. They've all fairly high draw %.
                                                        Profit before people.

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                                          It's not exactly rocket science seeing the criteria he uses for picks. Look at league table of teams he picks. They've all fairly high draw %.
                                                          The "usual" draw criteria is picking a lower team playing a slightly higher team in the table where draws are likely.

                                                          At least 2, probably 3 and maybe 4 of these teams are ones I would put in to a home accum tomorrow is the reason I was wondering anyway ...

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by White Knight View Post
                                                            The "usual" draw criteria is picking a lower team playing a slightly higher team in the table where draws are likely.

                                                            At least 2, probably 3 and maybe 4 of these teams are ones I would put in to a home accum tomorrow is the reason I was wondering anyway ...
                                                            Yeah majority of Huddersfield draws have been away from home too so wouldn't include that myself but haven't looked at lower league games yet this weekend and it's all price dependent obv so take these comments with a pinch of salt.
                                                            Profit before people.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                                              Yeah majority of Huddersfield draws have been away from home too so wouldn't include that myself but haven't looked at lower league games yet this weekend and it's all price dependent obv so take these comments with a pinch of salt.
                                                              In fairness I have tried a couple of these bets already. Just curious really to see if there is a small edge to be found anywhere!

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by The Situation View Post
                                                                It's not exactly rocket science seeing the criteria he uses for picks. Look at league table of teams he picks. They've all fairly high draw %.
                                                                As said i pick teams that draw alot of games. This season league one keeps on giving on the draws front with alot of my bets coming from this division. I go throught the fixtures and count up how many draws each fixture has the top 5 get bet on. If there is a tie then the closer the teams are in their table the better chance they have of being included.
                                                                I have thought about giving the home teams draws an extra .5 points and the same for the away teams draws but doing that would have meant missing out on the huddersfield result which had huge odds for a draw.
                                                                Imneed brighton to draw tomorrow for some returns this week
                                                                which should be good for a treble with the great odds on the huddersfield draw
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nearly didn't bother today as I'm suffering from abit of lazyitis
                                                                  again league 1 has 4 of the 5 bets

                                                                  Reading v Cardiff
                                                                  Colchester v MK Dons
                                                                  Huddersfield v Notts County
                                                                  Oldham v Chesterfield
                                                                  Scunthorpe v Hartlepool

                                                                  pos returns €1513.08

                                                                  br €112.39
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    you still going with this? I have been researching games this weekend and a few in my head are draws/tight games and I'm gonna give one attempt at this drawy thingy - what kind of bet do you make? canadian? cheers
                                                                    Go big or go homeless.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      personally i think this is a disaster of a betting system but for something to look out for which has been lacking in your previous selections - choose games where the favourite is playing away.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        No idea what to bet but I'm gonna go for a canadian as I think that's what you bet pretty much

                                                                        2 certain picks for me are
                                                                        Portsmouth v Coventry and Peterborough v Barnsley, literally gonna bet less than €5 but just for funsies, never bet on draws ever so I'll be lame at it no doubt but why not
                                                                        Go big or go homeless.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          no bets this week with the fa cup games on.
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by mdoug View Post
                                                                            No idea what to bet but I'm gonna go for a canadian as I think that's what you bet pretty much

                                                                            2 certain picks for me are
                                                                            Portsmouth v Coventry and Peterborough v Barnsley, literally gonna bet less than €5 but just for funsies, never bet on draws ever so I'll be lame at it no doubt but why not
                                                                            I did look over the games and pompy coventry would have been one of my picks.

                                                                            I bet 10 x trebles
                                                                            5x 4fold
                                                                            1 accum
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Loopz View Post
                                                                              I did look over the games and pompy coventry would have been one of my picks.

                                                                              I bet 10 x trebles
                                                                              5x 4fold
                                                                              1 accum
                                                                              sweet, glad I said it, my potential return went from 300(the doubles make it safer I guess) to 1600 - I really really feel as though peterborough barnsley will be a scored draw so hopefully those 2 come in and my other 3 picks come through too if they do. Probably not going to win but if I do I'll let ya know :P

                                                                              edit to add I was considering cardiff brum for this too, looked back at cardiffs games after League cup matches and they have drawn their last 4 - birmingham a bit more erratic - will decide for sure later
                                                                              Last edited by mdoug; 03-12-11, 01:12.
                                                                              Go big or go homeless.

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                How are you working out your pot returns? They seem way off.

                                                                                Most draws are between 9/5 and 11/5 and pot returns would be in between
                                                                                500 and 1000

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SirRickyHatton View Post
                                                                                  How are you working out your pot returns? They seem way off.

                                                                                  Most draws are between 9/5 and 11/5 and pot returns would be in between
                                                                                  500 and 1000
                                                                                  there is 16 bets
                                                                                  pos returns posted are what would be returned if the 5 results come in. I have a few online accounts so each week I'll go with who gives me the best returns .
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    if you are focusing on draws would italian footy not be better though? a lot more low scoring boring draws there than england imo - in my head I just always related boring draws with Italy
                                                                                    Go big or go homeless.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      1 accum based on ave odds of 2/1
                                                                                      =243

                                                                                      5 4folds based on same ave odds
                                                                                      =405

                                                                                      10 trebles based on same ave odds
                                                                                      =270

                                                                                      This is less than 1000. And some if your pot returns were over 1500. So you must be picking draws that are 3/1 or even 4/1 in some cases?

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by mdoug View Post
                                                                                        if you are focusing on draws would italian footy not be better though? a lot more low scoring boring draws there than england imo - in my head I just always related boring draws with Italy
                                                                                        Nah, there's usually very little between the 3 top leagues in terms of goals per game averages, Prem averaged more than Serie A last season but Serie A has averaged slightly more over the last 15 years than the prem. French league consistently averages the lowest from the bigger leagues and Dutch league the highest.
                                                                                        Profit before people.

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Blackpool - Watford
                                                                                          Cardiff - Middlesbrough
                                                                                          Exeter - Scunthorpe
                                                                                          Accrington Stanley - Torquay
                                                                                          Hartlepool - Colchester
                                                                                          Trebles: 10 bet(s) x € 1.00
                                                                                          Fourfolds: 5 bet(s) x € 1.00
                                                                                          Fivefolds: 1 bet(s) x € 1.00

                                                                                          Stake: € 16.00
                                                                                          Possible payout: € 1342.31


                                                                                          br €96.39
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by SirRickyHatton View Post
                                                                                            1 accum based on ave odds of 2/1
                                                                                            =243

                                                                                            5 4folds based on same ave odds
                                                                                            =405

                                                                                            10 trebles based on same ave odds
                                                                                            =270

                                                                                            This is less than 1000. And some if your pot returns were over 1500. So you must be picking draws that are 3/1 or even 4/1 in some cases?

                                                                                            draw odds at worst are 11/5 or 9/4 up to 12/5 or 5/2 thats in most cases there is exceptions but normally on the over priced side.
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              new year same bet more binkage needed

                                                                                              Carlisle - Walsall
                                                                                              Colchester - Chesterfield
                                                                                              Scunthorpe - Stevenage
                                                                                              Huddersfield - Brentford
                                                                                              Morecambe - Torquay

                                                                                              Trebles, 10 bet(s) at 1.00 EUR

                                                                                              Fourfolds, 5 bet(s) at 1.00 EUR

                                                                                              Fivefolds, 1 bet(s) at 1.00 EUR

                                                                                              Total taken amount: 16.00 EUR
                                                                                              Possible payout: 1748.51 EUR

                                                                                              fwiw paddy returns under 1.5k for this bet
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