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    So we're now just over 6 months living in Valencia, been a bit of a blur to be honest. At the same time it feels like this has always been home and that we've been here much longer than that. I find that strange, thinking something has passed quickly but also feeling like it's always been this way.

    Finally completed the renovation of the apartment last Friday (though to be fair we have been living in the apartment for a month at this stage, that last 5% of work is a pain to organise) but this is the first time we actually just have the place to ourselves without thinking about when a worker is going to drop in or when that piece is going to get completed.

    Waiting results of exams now in the next couple of weeks to see if we have achieved the correct level to move on for next year. We both sat A2 exams and hope to start B1 classes in October, classes are only 2 days a week for 3 hours a day so very manageable if we get in. A2 is pretty basic, I think it's the equivalent of junior cert or something approaching that and we both feel positive about how the exams went but entirely possible that I failed one or more parts of it.

    We've also both completed interviews in Spanish (that's a very generous assessment of how my interview went) for some basic jobs in bookstores, and will be starting today, just a few hours a day, a couple of days a week. Frankly I'm shocked we got them but there you go, in all honesty it's more to get a chance/be forced to converse in Spanish for a few hours a day than anything else. We've got a couple of friends that we do language exchanges with but really need more consistent periods of only speaking Spanish in order to progress.

    Which is all well and good in theory until you get 3 sentences deep in a conversation and can't find the word for, well for anything really, One of the guys I've met here invited us down to his holiday apartment at the weekend so we rented a car and drove down to Cullera (seaside town about 55km from Valencia) and spent all day Saturday chatting with him, his wife and kids and their friends in Spanish. We have definitely improved but I'm still sure we're not saying what we think we are saying

    On the plus side our experience here has been great and everybody is so willing to see past our mistakes and express genuine happiness that we are trying at least. The city itself is fantastic, really love it. Reasonably priced food and drink, nice people, loads of nice parks and walks and really good transport links to other areas. All in all delighted with the move so far.
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      I think like most things in life, it is foolish and naive to look at the problems of drug addiction in isolation.

      The drug addiction which most of us see is the city centre "walking dead", a lot of these are homeless people, many of whom are addicts because they are homeless with some being homeless because they are addicts.

      To look at this homeless point in isolation, let's hypothesise for a second and say you are 18 years old, your mothers dead and your fathers a drunk who likes to give you a baiting to relieve some tension. So straight off the bat, you are at a massive disadvantage when it comes to education, you probably don't have many/any role models that are showing you what it's like to be a "productive member of society", you are getting little or no help with the schooling outside of the classroom, and even if you are one of the rare kids who is actually self-motivated and understands the value of an education, then no doubt it would be a big struggle to get any work done when home.

      So you fall behind in your school-work, and as you struggle to understand what's going on, you start messing in class, you get in trouble continuously, and you either get chucked out of school or you leave of your own volition.
      So your stuck at home, but that's no good, so you do what you can to leave, not a lot of opportunities for school drop outs, especially from your family background where you likely don't have a lot of contacts within trades who are willing to put their neck out for you in order that you secure an apprenticeship, and even at that, you get paid pittants and it's a lot easier to sit at home and collect the social.

      So you leave home, stay on a few mates couches for a while, but that can't last and all of a sudden you are on the streets. How boring is life on the streets? Nothing to do all day long! At least you stick a needle in and it escapes reality for a few hours, then all of a sudden that is your life, just chasing the dragon...

      Education, social services, mental health services, affordable housing, addiction services, town planning, positive policing, social and economic inequality. Every single one of these things and more goes into creating a solution to the growing problem.

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        Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
        So why has (for example) New Orleans graph gone the other way? NYC used to have similar stats.

        The broken windows theory was popularised after this publication in 1982 https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...indows/304465/
        It's based on previous research produced in the sixties comparing the vandalisation of cars which are already smashed vs another that is not.

        Crime in NY was already in decline prior to Guiliani and subsequently prior to broken windows being applied.
        One simple explantion was regression to mean as when there were significant spikes in crime they were followed by significant decreases, with Guiliani's arrival coninciding with the biggest spike and proceeded by the biggest decline.

        I don't think it's discredited and viewed as having no impact but the application of the broken windows theory didn't cause crime to reduce by upwards of 70%.

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              Originally posted by Emmet View Post
              Also rocking the Simba. Am a difficult sleeper, need to be on a medium-firm mattress. Would rather sleep on the floor than have my shoulders wrecked from a soft mattress.

              For podcasters / thinkers / Radio 4 listeners (paging hotspur & Kayroo) the Reith Lectures series with Sumption have been brilliant - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00729d9. I'm really enjoying listening to a smart person who I disagree with on a lot of things make really good cases for them.
              I really like Sumption's lectures. I disagree with an awful lot of what he says but it's always good to have your position challenged in such a well-reasoned manner.
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                Might have to get a new phone. What's the go to suggestion for mid-priced phones these days?

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                  Originally posted by Kayroo View Post
                  I really like Sumption's lectures. I disagree with an awful lot of what he says but it's always good to have your position challenged in such a well-reasoned manner.
                  I listened to the first one this morning after finishing Margaret McMillians on war from the previous series.

                  He was quite good on the first one when the MC/interviewer questioned him on not offering an opinion as a retired judge, on the topic of assisted suicide.
                  Quick bite back in a stern tone, "I'll tell you precisely what I think...."

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                    Originally posted by Murdrum View Post
                    I listened to the first one this morning after finishing Margaret McMillians on war from the previous series.

                    He was quite good on the first one when the MC/interviewer questioned him on not offering an opinion as a retired judge, on the topic of assisted suicide.
                    Quick bite back in a stern tone, "I'll tell you precisely what I think...."
                    The absolute shade he threw at the barrister who suggested what Lord Sumption thought based on his book was phenomenal. A cutting remark from a judge tends to be sharper than most because they save them for the absolute best moments.
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                      Originally posted by Tar.Aldarion View Post
                      Is damascus gate good? Usually go to the cedar tree or shouk for that kind of food but saw on tripadvisor it's #40 of 2000+ restaurants in dublin?
                      Looking for a place to eat tomorrow
                      It's OK. Probably gets the high rating because you can bring your own booze!
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                          Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
                          I've never heard that Johann Hari talk before but everything he said made perfect sense.

                          The solution to addiction is somewhat simple but politics and society get in the way. There are some things that would help straight away.

                          Decriminalise possession of a small amount of drugs

                          Provide people who have addictions with safe and secure places to take drugs. (These places can also be used as centre's where they can avail of health services, councillors, etc, which can hopefully help them get clean at some point when they are ready to do so)

                          Provide them with housing before they get clean, rather than our current model of telling them to somehow get clean and then we'll look at housing so they can have an address and be able to access services.

                          Treat them like human beings and with compassion and respect. Nobody willingly chooses to be an addict, it's a scourge. The number one thing that pretty much every person who I met in 3 years of running the soup run, was that they so badly missed human interaction. People walked past them on the streets like they didn't exist, they were looked down on, treated like crap, stories of people on a night out, pissing on them while they slept rough, being attacked, people trying to set them on fire, I could go on and on. By just spending a bit of time talking to them, made their day. It could have been about anything and I have to admit, I was amazed at how intelligent and well informed a lot of the guys and girls, they certainly didn't fit the stereotype.

                          The idea of burning them or hiding them away as something to be embarrassed about is archaic. Did we learn nothing from burning people who we thought were witches or hiding away unmarried mothers and their babies.

                          What kind of a society do we want to live in? One that treats people who are less fortunate than others like scum and the dirt on your shoe (because, let's face, it's fine line between us and them) or one that is compassionate, that views that we are only as strong as our weakest member?
                          I’m not sure about that, what’s the upside for the community to pay for that?

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                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                ah now.

                                Its okay to help people in need without personal 'upside'
                                He did specifically say “community”...
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                                    Bologna really is the spot, how on Earth are they all not fat?
                                    I wish I had more time or stomach room.
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                                      Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post
                                      I’m not sure about that, what’s the upside for the community to pay for that?
                                      I believe it's been shown to be effective in other places, Finland is the one I think I remember reading about.

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                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                          It's OK. Probably gets the high rating because you can bring your own booze!
                                          Well it just went up in my books!

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                                            Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                            Had a visiting professor today, who I can't fully name due to security reasons, but lets say he may or may not be the architect of what was the fastest supercomputer in the world until last year, and the director developing the next world's fastest supercomputer.

                                            The things he was describing that they are able to do in China as a result are just amazing. Like they're able to model weather accuracy to within 50 metres. They can take satellite feeds of the entire world and e.g. automatically detect and count the number of apple trees and work out what the global apple harvest is looking like based on how green the leaves are.

                                            A lot of this is currently at proof of concept - as in they've shown it works but haven't commercialised it as their main interest is national strategic interests - but my god what a world we are creating.

                                            Going to visit them in December as part of the China trip.
                                            exascale reached?
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                                                  Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                  He was making the point that these types of things like exascale are political contests rather than pratical. They're much more interested in AI-type solutions which are quite different in implementation. Mainly different chips - think they have quite a uniquely developed chip that is CPU+GPU running on the same chip. (I may have missed some of his more finer points)
                                                  I think its more like a network on the chip from memory but tbh, my head kinda spins when reading too much into it
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                                                    Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post
                                                    I’m not sure about that, what’s the upside for the community to pay for that?
                                                    There has been some research on it and what they have found is that there is

                                                    A significant reduction in the use and cost of emergency services by program participants
                                                    Emergency room visits and costs reduced
                                                    Hospital inpatients costs were reduced
                                                    Increase in health status
                                                    Less people sleeping rough on the streets
                                                    Less police resources needed to deal with people on the streets
                                                    People spent less time in incarceration (which costs money to keep them there)
                                                    Mental health issues of participants improved greatly

                                                    It may not be perfect but it can certainly be part of the solution.

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                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                      ah now.

                                                      Its okay to help people in need without personal 'upside'
                                                      Of course it’s ok to, it’s also ok to do it personally without the government doing it, but if you expect your government to do it then you should be open about what it means. For anything collective yiu need buy-in, and so after the first house is destroyed by a drug-induced rage you need to have a good rationale for why that should be supported. That rationale may well be, that ten people were housed and nine have looked after them well, used the environment to improve and society is better off, or it may be something else. Hence the question. It seeems there are a few people directly involved in it so I’m curious as to their thoughts on it.

                                                      Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                      pfft. He said it but didn't mean it. A community includes everyone even those less fortunate. If you start defining community by excluding people below a certain income level or as people without mental health or addiction problems, then you aren't really talking about a 'community', but rather a connection of individuals trying to maximise their upside.
                                                      No you’ve misinterpreted me there, I’m referring to a community as a whole. I take no direct upside from VAT or drug treatment centers but I know they are positive for the environment I live in and thus I’m happy to have my taxes go towards them. Likewise for some medicines provided by the HSE, I’ll never personally need them but I can see why we should.

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                                                        Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
                                                        There has been some research on it and what they have found is that there is

                                                        A significant reduction in the use and cost of emergency services by program participants
                                                        Emergency room visits and costs reduced
                                                        Hospital inpatients costs were reduced
                                                        Increase in health status
                                                        Less people sleeping rough on the streets
                                                        Less police resources needed to deal with people on the streets
                                                        People spent less time in incarceration (which costs money to keep them there)
                                                        Mental health issues of participants improved greatly

                                                        It may not be perfect but it can certainly be part of the solution.
                                                        Thanks, that’s what I was curious about.

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                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                          Like they're able to model weather accuracy to within 50 metres.
                                                          What does this mean?

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                                                            Originally posted by Goodluck2me View Post
                                                            Thanks, that’s what I was curious about.
                                                            I’m curious as to where these poor souls will live. It won’t be in a leafy suburb that’s guaranteed. Think it’s delusional that people who can’t help robbing and begging to feed a drug habit many with mental health issues should be given a free house or apartment. I have no issue with social housing under circumstances but giving a drug addict a house when many working poor cannot afford one is very unfair. Think as they have such understanding Lao Lao and Eamon honda could rent a room to these folks they chat and work with . Come back to us when then start using the presses and drawers as a toilet.

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                                                              Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post

                                                              This thread is where the real training happens.
                                                              Should we all put it on our CV's?

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                                                                Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                ah now.

                                                                Its okay to help people in need without personal 'upside'
                                                                Resources (i.e. tax revenues) are finite.

                                                                As an educator, would you rather a billiin extra spent on unis or on social welfare?
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                                                                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                  Resources (i.e. tax revenues) are finite.

                                                                  As an educator, would you rather a billiin extra spent on unis or on social welfare?
                                                                  Money should be spent on primary schools, get the kids early, get them competent early(although I like the French wit till there about 7 idea) and don't leave any kids behind

                                                                  Then by the time they get to secondary school, (within reason) all can read, all can do maths and less will hide their shame with bad behavior

                                                                  20 years the country would be solid as fuck!

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                                                                    Originally posted by Lao Lao View Post
                                                                    There has been some research on it and what they have found is that there is

                                                                    A significant reduction in the use and cost of emergency services by program participants
                                                                    Emergency room visits and costs reduced
                                                                    Hospital inpatients costs were reduced
                                                                    Increase in health status
                                                                    Less people sleeping rough on the streets
                                                                    Less police resources needed to deal with people on the streets
                                                                    People spent less time in incarceration (which costs money to keep them there)
                                                                    Mental health issues of participants improved greatly

                                                                    It may not be perfect but it can certainly be part of the solution.
                                                                    I think projects like Housing First and UBI etc are the LT goal for humanity but there must be a near infinite number of factors which prevent its scalability in the foreseeable future.

                                                                    I find it hard to grasp that a sample of 34 participants in x households in one of the most expensive cities in the world can offer much of practical solution to housing both within that city and elsewhere.
                                                                    Additionally Andrew Yang proclaiming the value of UBI while giving 2 families 1k a month is little more than novelty.

                                                                    I think their value lies not in actually thinking they're attainable(at least in our lifetime) but what elements provide the most utility and how do we actually apply them.

                                                                    FWIW I think Housing First, UBI etc are fantastic but I think a model similar to Effective Altruism is the one that should be applied, utility above all else to produce most impact.

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                                                                      Originally posted by Sickpuppy View Post
                                                                      I’m curious as to where these poor souls will live. It won’t be in a leafy suburb that’s guaranteed. Think it’s delusional that people who can’t help robbing and begging to feed a drug habit many with mental health issues should be given a free house or apartment. I have no issue with social housing under circumstances but giving a drug addict a house when many working poor cannot afford one is very unfair. Think as they have such understanding Lao Lao and Eamon honda could rent a room to these folks they chat and work with . Come back to us when then start using the presses and drawers as a toilet.
                                                                      I bet you it will be leafy wherever they end up.

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                                                                          Originally posted by Sickpuppy View Post
                                                                          I’m curious as to where these poor souls will live. It won’t be in a leafy suburb that’s guaranteed. Think it’s delusional that people who can’t help robbing and begging to feed a drug habit many with mental health issues should be given a free house or apartment. I have no issue with social housing under circumstances but giving a drug addict a house when many working poor cannot afford one is very unfair. Think as they have such understanding Lao Lao and Eamon honda could rent a room to these folks they chat and work with . Come back to us when then start using the presses and drawers as a toilet.
                                                                          Haha sounds fair. And the rest in the aras sure hasn't he loads of room.
                                                                          We'd be a long way from being able to house first. After services would need to be very good for it to work, they cunts in power would be happy with the drop in a homeless statistic and you'd just get houses trashed. It should be an aim for the future for sure though.
                                                                          Fwiw I don't claim to have a full understanding of it all or any of the solutions. I do a small bit of work focussing on their welfare while on the streets, and nothing that will solve or reduce homelessness. That's supposed to be the governments issue
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                                                                              Housing First is already our national policy.

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                                                                                Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                Housing First is already our national policy.
                                                                                I know some charities have done it, with varying degrees of success apparently.
                                                                                airport, lol

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                                                                                  Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                  Housing First is already our national policy.
                                                                                  I'm not sure whether the current plan is the first and it is early doors for a plan rolled out in 2018 but early indications I saw dont look promising.

                                                                                  Housing production forecasts have reduced by 4-5% over the next 2 years and while we need -at the low end- 50% more to meet demand and almost 100% at the high end, the amount of unsold houses in the country is increasing, over 2500 units built than sold.

                                                                                  People are just priced out at this stage and Focus Ireland projects a growth in the number of homelessness over the next 3-4 years which coincides with the culmination of that program

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                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                    If given a choice - and it would be a pretty shitty choice - it would definitely be on social support to ensure everyone has a fair shot at life. Uni is a middle-class bonus. Absolutely nothing wrong with that given the middle class pay the tax, but if its about equal chance at life in society or a middle class bonus, then its not really much of a choice.
                                                                                    If we stopped paying out SW in cash and instead in the form of actual services, then I might be tempted to agree with you.

                                                                                    But instead we waste these scarce resources (tax revenues) by keeping everyone happy with €€€ instead of actually spending the budget in a targeted fashion (such as early childhood support for example).
                                                                                    Child Benefit is a wonderful case in point. No way should that be paid out on cash. It should be spent in areas where it can make the most positive good for children's long-term prospects.
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                                                                                          Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                          Not sure I agree with you on child benefit. It is a tax break for families. That is a perfectly reasonable idea for society to have. A couple on 100k with no kids and a couple on 100k with kids - its absolutely fine to give the couple with kids a bit of their tax back in the form of child benefit - ultimately paid for by the 100k no-kids couple. We get massive tax breaks here in France due to being a family. Like its about 10k a year, maybe more.

                                                                                          Raising kids is ridic expensive, so not sure why you'd want to take away the measly 400 a month that someone with two kids gets to help them out.

                                                                                          In general I disagree with the idea of taking away social benefits from the middle class. If you take away social benefits from the middle class (child benefit, free-ish uni) then the middle class are going to - even more so - go: fuck the poor, and start voting for low-tax rightwing parties. As they will be paying all of the tax and getting none of the benefit. Sharing the social benefits is what helps keep the country centrist.
                                                                                          I'd take away the 400 cash and give them services worth 600!

                                                                                          everyone's a winner baby
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                                                                                              Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                              Would love to see a proper social support system though.

                                                                                              Man, some of the parents in work whose kids have developmental problems are having to literally fight off the hungry hoards of health supports that are available to them. Like they're knocking on the door begging to be able to help the kid. You just couldn't believe the system. And that's beautiful. Its equally available to everyone in their time of need. Support not cash. As what the fuck use is cash when you just want your kid to grow up great?

                                                                                              Agree with you that the substitution of care for cash is woeful and a sign of an immature society. There is a need for some cash though.
                                                                                              seems like a dead cert to create perverse incentives - especially in a system where we hand out cash payments for every benefit

                                                                                              Imagine you're in need of social supports
                                                                                              1. Need a house - here you go, have a council flat
                                                                                              2. have kids - free education, afterschool care, hot dinners, books, uniforms
                                                                                              3. need transport, here's a prepaid leap card
                                                                                              4. need healthcare, medical card and prescriptions
                                                                                              5. clothing vouchers


                                                                                              etc etc - far better results than just lumping out cash and targeted at actual services\goods that will have most positive outcomes (and away from those that could have negative outcomes)
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                                                                                                  Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                  I'd take away the 400 cash and give them services worth 600!

                                                                                                  everyone's a winner baby
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                                                                                                    Originally posted by Hitchhiker's Guide To... View Post
                                                                                                    nothing wrong with that. we get a combined total of 123 euro a month (stoopid keyboard doesn't have a euro sign) for the two kids here as its means tested. Its the tax breaks that make the difference. Plus poorer families get far more - up to about 400 euro a month for two kids.

                                                                                                    But you get money when you need it. E.g. we were getting back 400 euro of the 700 nanny costs for the kids first two years before he went to school. And then able to claim most of the rest back against tax.
                                                                                                    [alt gr + 4] not work for you?

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                                                                                                      Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                      seems like a dead cert to create perverse incentives - especially in a system where we hand out cash payments for every benefit

                                                                                                      Imagine you're in need of social supports
                                                                                                      1. Need a house - here you go, have a council flat
                                                                                                      2. have kids - free education, afterschool care, hot dinners, books, uniforms
                                                                                                      3. need transport, here's a prepaid leap card
                                                                                                      4. need healthcare, medical card and prescriptions
                                                                                                      5. clothing vouchers


                                                                                                      etc etc - far better results than just lumping out cash and targeted at actual services\goods that will have most positive outcomes (and away from those that could have negative outcomes)
                                                                                                      What you are asking for here is communist style cradle to grave welfare state.
                                                                                                      Turning millions into thousands

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                                                                                                        Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                        What you are asking for here is communist style cradle to grave welfare state.
                                                                                                        Cradle to grave be a lot shorter under Josef Duke the 3rd

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                                                                                                          RDIII has become a pinko in the shame of his (understandable) angry ranting after the naggingate incident.

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                                                                                                                Drove from Heidelberg to Avignon today. Wonderful drive through the Alsace, Beaujolais and Cote du Rhone wine regions before finally into Provence. This really is a wonderful country to visit.

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                                                                                                                  Originally posted by hotspur View Post
                                                                                                                  RDIII has become a pinko in the shame of his (understandable) angry ranting after the naggingate incident.
                                                                                                                  I'm just trying out a range of opinions and seeing if any of them fly.

                                                                                                                  Going to hit up anarchism tomorrow.
                                                                                                                  "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Strewelpeter View Post
                                                                                                                    What you are asking for here is communist style cradle to grave welfare state.
                                                                                                                    Don't we have that already? I'm just trying to have better outcomes.
                                                                                                                    "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                      Speaking of leafy, I walked around St Annes park earlier and literally could not identify one tree species.

                                                                                                                      Seems like a notable gap in my personal wikipedia.
                                                                                                                      "We are not Europeans. Those people on the continent are freaks."

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                                                                                                                        "We're not f*cking Burundi" - Big Phil

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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raoul Duke III View Post
                                                                                                                          Speaking of leafy, I walked around St Annes park earlier and literally could not identify one tree species.

                                                                                                                          Seems like a notable gap in my personal wikipedia.
                                                                                                                          UK Woodland trust do a great little app that will solve that for you

                                                                                                                          Turning millions into thousands

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