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    range for call

    Sorry i still have not figured out how to insert images in my posts, this hand came up last night and i have a screen print attached:

    Mtt, low stakes on FT,
    Blinds are 120/240 with an ante 25,
    I have AQ in the SB, UTG limps (8565), cut-off limps (4899), button limps (3418) and i then limp with AQ (15905) and BB shoves for (3243), utg folds , cut off flats leaving 1656 behind, button folds and its on me. (All of this will be alot clearer from attachment)

    1) i limped here because i thought the bb would squeeze, he was so lag and had just lost a massive pot plus i dont like raising OOP in this spot (thoughts)

    2) after limping here and having the cutoff flat i think i get it in here all the time as bb has massive range and i get 2/1 and all that (thoughts) but i was wondering what would be your range for a call in this spot with the strange flat from the cut off who actually just got moved to table a few hands before.
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    #2
    Super easy shove for me.
    "I can’t find anyone who agrees with what I write or think these days, so I guess I must be getting closer to the truth." - Hunter S. Thompson

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      #3
      my range for a call is prob 88 +, A10s +

      CO is not turning up with a hand that beats you here. most likely he is calling because he knows BB's range is very wide. once in a blue moon he is doing the same thing as you, ie limping to induce a push, but in those very rare occasions you stand to lose at most 1/3 of your stack. you're otherwise well ahead of their ranges, get it in there

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        #4
        Wtf at limping in the first place, super easy shove from SB with AQ and 1,000 in the pot.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Fuzzy Logic View Post
          Wtf at limping in the first place, super easy shove from SB with AQ and 1,000 in the pot.
          What about utg limp?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Caf View Post
            What about utg limp?
            Blockers to AA and 30% vs KK. I actually thought our stack was smaller so I still raise when it gets to me not a shove tho.

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              #7
              Personally I think 20bb effective is too much to be calling it off with AQos with 2 players all in (more or less). The strange way the hand played out though I think I get it in but don't expect to win it very often, probably 30% which is what your getting odds wise.

              If it went limp UTG, Raise by MP, flat by you in SB, BB shoves MP reshoves then I fold.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Fuzzy Logic View Post
                Blockers to AA and 30% vs KK. I actually thought our stack was smaller so I still raise when it gets to me not a shove tho.
                if i raise here i dont think bb ships (maybe he does and its fine), id maybe make it 5-6x out of the small blind, then get flated by utg maybe and definitly the co, not know where i am post, would you disagree?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Creasy View Post
                  if i raise here i dont think bb ships (maybe he does and its fine), id maybe make it 5-6x out of the small blind, then get flated by utg maybe and definitly the co, not know where i am post, would you disagree?
                  Yes I would disagree.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fuzzy Logic View Post
                    Yes I would disagree.
                    would everyone else agree i should be raising AQ in the SB here given my thought on how the action will go or just in general

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                      #11
                      no I think your rationale for not raising here is fine given BBs propensity to push and given UTGs limp

                      even if you take the BB out of the hand I think your dislike for not raising here is also fine because your OOP and UTG has limped. as a consequence though you might have to be willing to let go later on even if you hit your ace or queen 4 way, and you may end up folding the better hand as a result but so be it.

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