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Old 05-11-16, 21:41   #41
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So we 3bet our entire range? Seems exploitable to me.

True there is some value in 3betting but I'd prefer to flat and craise a lot of flops
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Old 05-11-16, 22:17   #42
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So we 3bet our entire range? Seems exploitable to me.

True there is some value in 3betting but I'd prefer to flat and craise a lot of flops
so you prefer to take the lesser EV line than the higher EV line?

makes no poker sense but obviously you can do it if u like !

also ,where did i ever say 3bet your entire range?

while its true that 3betting anything ,will make his 3bet-calling range A and K heavy ,but when you don't block any of them,then you haven't decreased his chances of hitting the flop !
and his 4bet frequency remains untouched due to not having blockers !

you also can't lead post flop on a none A K boards anymore, because now a much smaller % of his range contains A or K .

im not saying calling with A7s is gonna be -EV ,I'm saying 3betting with it is almost always gonna be higher EV .

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Old 05-11-16, 22:32   #43
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I disagree
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So ur saying that he won't fold all his bluffs when we 3bet flop ?
So he is likely to get 150bbs in on Q94 board with like JJ or AK ?

If that's the case then obv raise ur sets but man we play in totally different games then if so !
It's nothing got to do with games we play in, online vrs live or anything like that.
It's there in black and white in the OP

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so his entire range (give or take a few combos) is : 92 combos

of those his total value combos are:
AA +KK +QQ +AQ +KQ +QJ +99 = 36

so when hero leads the flop , then 60% of his range has missed and when we raise with our sets we get rid of 60% of his range...
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Folds to Hero in BB with A7cc (stack 16,000)
Hero raises to 900, Villain tanks for a bit then flat calls.
Flop is 4s 9h Qc.
Hero bets 1200, CO raises to 2600, hero calls raise.
Hero led the flop, and called a raise with A7.
This isn't one of the 60% of hands a raise apparently gets rid of. It obviously didnt.
Whether he was right to do that is irrelevant, as is whether you or I would do it. The fact is, the hero didn't fold with A7, which means, conclusively, that the above assertion was wrong.

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so i discussed my plans for flop play and also why i think calling his 3bet on the flop is much better than 4betting.
Minor point, but there was no 3bet on the flop.
With the discussion jumping between pre and post discussion, and the "we" referring to the Hero in some posts, and the Villain in others, it's a little hectic at time. Might as well not add to it.
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